Is Multiculturalism Social Engineering

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[quote=vancity eagle;1061027723]

Are you trying to say that the majority of civil servants, police, judiciary, military in european countries are not white ? If you are not, what is your point exactly ? Is there a problem with ethnic minorities representing european, or any other countries in these fields ? I'm not really sure what you are getting at here ?

No.
I think it was rather clear my points. I said
I think in the UK it's fair enough that there are ethnic minority MPs/Councilors who represent their communities, as long as they have no issue with indigenous whites doing the same.

You are correct here, Jews are overrepresented in the Western world in the areas of key governmental, judiciary, and banking positions, but other than the Jewish minority I cannot think of any other ethnic minority this can be applied to. Since you are so concerned with Europe, can you give me examples of other ethnic minorities other than Jews who have to much influence in Europe ?

It's verifiable after some research the Jewish power. No I didn't mention any other group. Although some of the richest business people in th UK are foreigners such as number 1 the Indian Patell steel group.

What on earth are you talking about ? What countries have racial laws which promote people of a certain race into jobs outside of the EU. Are you trying to make excuse for implementing white supremacy in the EU, because that sounds like what you are doing ?

Excuse? No just stating the facts. Reality is as I explained in my previous post.
In th U.K there's positive discrimination laws which discriminates against white British people in favour of ethnic minorities who're given certain jobs before the indigenous whites, that doesn't happen in none white countries their own people are top of the list for jobs, housing etc.

But that's not racist because they ain't white right? (but could be considered racist).
If whites did the same they'd be called racist (oh the irony and hypocrisy can't you see?)

I guessed right, you want an excuse to implement racial supremacy in the EU. Again which countries have racial laws which only keep their own race in positions of power to the exclusion of (I'm assuming you mean whites correct ?) Besides Israel of course.

No, I just explained again and in my previous post that it is none white countries on the whole do not allow non whites or any other foreigners into positions of power rather they choose their own race over others, so are therefore more racist than whites..I believe blacks etc are far more racist than whites (you think it's the other way around) fine.

What xenophobic nonsense. In Syria, a predominantly muslim country, some of the highest officials are Christian. A very high ranking Christian was assasinated by NATO over a month ago. The founder of the Baath party which rules both Syria and Iraq(before 2003) was created by a Christian. I believe the current vice president of Zambia is a white guy. Zambia does not even have a significant white population. You are just spewing racist nonsense , creating fear of stuff that doesn't even exist in order to justify your racial views.

Study the shariah law and the majority Islamic countries and come back and tell me I'm taking bollocks, you can't. Islam favours Muslims on the whole over none Muslims, know your history. HOW IS THAT XEnOPHOBIC YOU NUMPTY? It isn't, I was on about religion, not race.

You quote one example, not a good on at that,
You're just being racist
and accusing me of being racist, so it's fair that I call you a black supremacist too, right?

Again all just fantasy in your mind. You need other people to be angry at , so you create fantasy to justify your bigotry.

You're the bigot whose denying reality

Which ethnic minority MPs said that there shouldn't be white MP's ? Are you just making stuff up. Chill out dude, I think you are way too paranoid, there is no conspiracy to get "whitey".

. how the fuck did you come up with that pile of crap?

What is considered "such a large representation" Is it just your own subjective interpretation. Show me the demographics of England (I'm assuming), and then show me the ethnic breakdown of the "yoof" parliament. Does the "yoof" parliament even have any legitimate power or influence ?



Why are some of you guys so paranoid that there is this big conspiracy of coloured people to rule over whites. Again these are just fantasies of a disturbed mind.

If these kiddies become the future Govt then the "majority" indigenous whites will be lordered over by them by ethnic "minorities", the keyword.
Imagine majority none white country's yoof parliaments I bet there's no or few whites involved.

The above is plain English why can't you understand a simple point?


Now can you fetch me some pics of the African, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, American, Indian etc etc youth Parliament? To show how all the children are mostly foreigners? NO Can you fuck. They'd all, or almost all be of one racial group. And not a white European face in sight. Even though whites represent the same percentage of demographics in some none European countries as none whites do in Europe and the U.K. So why so many ethnic none whites in the U.K Youth (yoof) parliament?
Oh and btw don't ever call me a racist again you racist ****

[learner]

The youth parliament is managed by the British Youth Council which has membership of around 620 youth councils and many other networks.


All is not what it seems!

[bendoon]

Originally Posted by vancity eagle

Yes I too live in Canada, and while I despise the Canadian government for collaborating with the globalists,(like almost every other country) I am proud that it is a shining example of co existence of all peoples. We just dont have serious racial issues at all, and most people I know my age have friends of all races, and scapegoating multiculturalism is the last thing on peoples minds. It is only when people are full of fear and hatred that multiculturalism can be exploited in a negative way by the PTB.

Except of course the natives who have been almost wiped out to make way for your "shining example" of coexistence. I wonder where else they can kill the natives off and import millions of people from all over the world to create a multicultural Utopia ? how about Sweden or Holland, maybe England, don't worry they already thought about that and it's in progress

[kodo4]

Originally Posted by vancity eagle

Yes I too live in Canada, and while I despise the Canadian government for collaborating with the globalists,(like almost every other country) I am proud that it is a shining example of co existence of all peoples. We just dont have serious racial issues at all, and most people I know my age have friends of all races, and scapegoating multiculturalism is the last thing on peoples minds. It is only when people are full of fear and hatred that multiculturalism can be exploited in a negative way by the PTB.

That would be the Canada that is divided by two official languages both of which come from former Colonial rulers and fails completely to recognise the language of the indigenous population. The same Canada that saw serious violence from sepratist movements a few years ago, again divided along the same colonialist divide. Even though there is no serious violence there is still sufficient momentum from sepratists to create much debate at a high level, and could still split the nation. Heaven only knows what you consider to be a NON shining example of multiculturalism

[bikerdruid]

Originally Posted by kodo4

That would be the Canada that is divided by two official languages both of which come from former Colonial rulers and fails completely to recognise the language of the indigenous population. The same Canada that saw serious violence from sepratist movements a few years ago, again divided along the same colonialist divide. Even though there is no serious violence there is still sufficient momentum from sepratists to create much debate at a high level, and could still split the nation. Heaven only knows what you consider to be a NON shining example of multiculturalism

there are dozens if indigenous languages in canada.
first natioons languages courses are now available in many canadian high schools.
any canadian that does not speak either english or french is supplied a translator in any serious situations.
your claim is spurious.

a few years ago?? the only seperatist 'violence' canada has known was the flq crisis of 1970.
canada was still subject to british rule at that time. canada never became an independant nation until 1982.
much has changed in canada in the last 40 years....imagine that.
you should update your sources.

[bikerdruid]

Originally Posted by bendoon

Except of course the natives who have been almost wiped out to make way for your "shining example" of coexistence. I wonder where else they can kill the natives off and import millions of people from all over the world to create a multicultural Utopia ? how about Sweden or Holland, maybe England, don't worry they already thought about that and it's in progress

bendoon knows nothing about canada. he has watched too many cowboy and indian movies.
first nations people in canada have come a long way in the last 40 years too.
there is great room for improvement, but the days of residential schools are long gone.
he and kodo both need to update their sources.
i do not address this to bendoon, as he has chosen to bury his head in the sand and ignore me.
perfect.

[believenothing]

Originally Posted by bikerdruid

bendoon knows nothing about canada. he has watched too many cowboy and indian movies.
first nations people in canada have come a long way in the last 40 years too.
there is great room for improvement, but the days of residential schools are long gone.
he and kodo both need to update their sources.
i do not address this to bendoon, as he has chosen to bury his head in the sand and ignore me.
perfect.

I've been to Montreal, Edmonton, Vancouver, and Toronto. I definitely noticed Amerindian types, especially in Montreal. Vancouver, Toronto, and Edmonton to a lesser extent were mostly white or far East Asian. Sorry bikerdruid, but I didn't get the multicultural vibe. To be fair my exposure was limited to the above cities (emphasis on cities and maybe Toronto's metro area). I don't see how it was much different than the US.

[kodo4]

Originally Posted by bikerdruid

there are dozens if indigenous languages in canada.
first natioons languages courses are now available in many canadian high schools.
any canadian that does not speak either english or french is supplied a translator in any serious situations.
your claim is spurious.

a few years ago?? the only seperatist 'violence' canada has known was the flq crisis of 1970.
canada was still subject to british rule at that time. canada never became an independant nation until 1982.
much has changed in canada in the last 40 years....imagine that.
you should update your sources.

Donīt think youīve really addresses the fact of coloniaism there. As for the seperatism are you suggesting that it still does not exist, or are you saying it was an independance movement. Why should any indigenous people have the need of a translalator for any purpose.

[kodo4]

Anyway thanks to everyone so far. Now to move away from Canada and get back on track with the next question.

Given that "race" does not in fact exist but ethnicity does. And as ethnicty is an absorbed culture of a particular nation, tribe, group or whatever.

Is it possible any ethnic group to successfuly emigrate to any other host ethnic group and, without the force of law, integrate with the host group without losing some of itīs own ethnic culture?

[believenothing]

Originally Posted by kodo4

Is it possible any ethnic group to successfuly emigrate to any other host ethnic group and, without the force of law, integrate with the host group without losing some of itīs own ethnic culture?

I don't think that's possible. Without the force of law, I think assimilation is inevitble. Either that or culture clash which, again without force of the law will lead to the outcasting (or worse) for the immigrant.

Us humans do tolerate differences to an extent (since we're all unique individuals after all, we are all different... we are not the same like they keep telling us to be). Food for example. You might see hardcore vegetarians and vegetarian haters get violent on the very rare occasion or you might see that one uncle make an ethnic joke about the Indian food you're eating, but humans know we all have different tastes. Same with music. We complain about it, but some people like shitty music. Of course the music you like is probably shitty to those people.

Clothing too. Not picking on Indians, but it suits the example. Some Indians wear traditional garb. They might get teased for it, but it's not demeaning to the sexes (for the most part) as it is under certain religions. The line is usually drawn at cultural morality which doesn't really involve the above things.

So I think you can maintain your culture to a degree and still assimilate with the hosts. Without the force of law. But there will be assimilation. There is with the force of law, but that law will protect the dogmatic beliefs that otherwise would not be tolerated by the hosts. Covering women for example. Without law, culturally they will be more like their hosts. If they weren't they would be rejected.

Multiculturalism with the force of law has become cultural Marxism. A silent killer in the West, a cancer, a disease, a sickness. The cure is to expose it but the supporters are comprised of brainwashed useful idiots who don't know what it is. More and more people are exposing it. Eventually the perpetrators will be shunned, expelled, incarcerated, executed, etc. But in the meantime it is frustrating to deal with those disgusting creatures.

[kodo4]

Originally Posted by believenothing

I don't think that's possible. Without the force of law, I think assimilation is inevitble. Either that or culture clash which, again without force of the law will lead to the outcasting (or worse) for the immigrant.

Us humans do tolerate differences to an extent (since we're all unique individuals after all, we are all different... we are not the same like they keep telling us to be). Food for example. You might see hardcore vegetarians and vegetarian haters get violent on the very rare occasion or you might see that one uncle make an ethnic joke about the Indian food you're eating, but humans know we all have different tastes. Same with music. We complain about it, but some people like shitty music. Of course the music you like is probably shitty to those people.

Clothing too. Not picking on Indians, but it suits the example. Some Indians wear traditional garb. They might get teased for it, but it's not demeaning to the sexes (for the most part) as it is under certain religions. The line is usually drawn at cultural morality which doesn't really involve the above things.

So I think you can maintain your culture to a degree and still assimilate with the hosts. Without the force of law. But there will be assimilation. There is with the force of law, but that law will protect the dogmatic beliefs that otherwise would not be tolerated by the hosts. Covering women for example. Without law, culturally they will be more like their hosts. If they weren't they would be rejected.

Multiculturalism with the force of law has become cultural Marxism. A silent killer in the West, a cancer, a disease, a sickness. The cure is to expose it but the supporters are comprised of brainwashed useful idiots who don't know what it is. More and more people are exposing it. Eventually the perpetrators will be shunned, expelled, incarcerated, executed, etc. But in the meantime it is frustrating to deal with those disgusting creatures.

In the most part I agree with you.

I have no particular exception to multiculturalism when it is clearly distinguished as assimilation. However I do strongly object to multiculturism (without exception) which is pressed upon the host nation by force of law for which you need to see the see the UN Declaration. When the force of law is deemed as necessary it can in no way represent, or even be construed as assimilation. I can only see it as colonisation with the support and collusion of the host nations government.

Although I see those imigrants that would use and abuse those laws as perpetrators I can also see that they are pawns in the process and the truely guilty parties are those that would, and have, passed those laws.

Collusion by any definition indicates conspiracy, and there is quite clearly collusion given that there is a UN Declaration.

So where does it lead us? I donīt think the the concept of a global village is served at all by forcing ethnicty laws for they can only seperate us.