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Old 20-04-2013, 10:49 PM   #4341
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Oh man if ever a guy worshipped money then that guy was Alan Watts, he made his pile by marrying dippy Jewish heiresses , one after the other. Three in all.
His lad who owns the copyrights to Watts works is totally minted.
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Old 20-04-2013, 11:05 PM   #4342
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Alan Watts on how people worship money over life:

Alan Watts - The veil of thoughts - complete - original - YouTube
Unfortunately I still need money in the short term to buy land to be wealthy in vegetables and trees and ponds in the long term.

Cheers for the video. Always liked Watts and his talks.
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Old 20-04-2013, 11:05 PM   #4343
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I dont think this watts guy understands much about reality of money..but if you got loads of it by default like marrying into it how would he?

Amazed this thread isnt more alive with people wanting to buy while real money is cheap..A great opportunity is here again..
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Old 20-04-2013, 11:39 PM   #4344
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Old 21-04-2013, 10:10 AM   #4345
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Fighting back with debtfree real money.

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Old 22-04-2013, 11:49 AM   #4346
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Speaking of big changes are people familiar with Cliff Hill and his predictive web-bot work? I have just listened to this blog for the first time and he gives a timeline of 40 days. His penultimate words ... gold, silver and bitcoin.

https://hackpad.com/Why-Web-Bot-and-...er-8i1timPUbc4

Here he is on a Red Ice radio interview but I haven't listened yet.

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-121220.php

and even more. Busy busy.

Clif talks about how the system works http://2012apocalypse.info/what-is-w...esies-for-2012

A subscriber who bothered to read Ciff's ALTA reports, and gave his own assessment. http://laron-transients.blogspot.com...liff-high.html


Views once you've listened might be shared?

Prices shooting up again.

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Old 22-04-2013, 11:22 PM   #4347
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Listening to the third link now, very interesting , never listend to Mr High talk about it and how it works before , certainly a highly intelligent and awake guy.

personally not so much into predictions but when it comes to things involving numbers like the price of things.. supply and demand, predictions are different..I have heard the webbot predicted a mega rise in the metals soon especially silver...Judging by the demand latley since the paper price drop it seems ever more probarble..I dont think a webbot is nessecery to predict a huge fiat price rise in silver if the physical demand carries on as it is..even in these rigged 'markets'/casino.

Thing is he is on about plasma atoms and creation of matter which if true as mr keshe describes in his work then gold and silver will be worth less as he claims to be able to create it..which is the only thing that gives me the fear of holding metals as a way to preserve the value of my money..
He dint mention Mr Keshe though..But backs up his theories in what he is saying though..
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Old 26-04-2013, 05:16 AM   #4348
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From the DI headlines page...

Stansberry Research: We As Americans Are About To See A Major, Major Collapse In Our National Monetary System, And Our Normal Way of Life.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=RN5BLQLA4FA

I believe that we as Americans are about to see a major, major collapse in our national monetary system, and our normal way of life.

Our government has been borrowing so much money (very often using short-term loans), that very soon, we will no longer be able to afford even the interest on these loans.

Today, the federal government has to borrow 46 cents of every dollar they spend…spending that stands at a staggering average of $435.8 million per hour.

But even these incredible figures don’t tell the real story. Or even half of it…

http://www.endofamerica.com/read-more/

JIM SINCLAIR: GET OUT OF THE SYSTEM NOW! SIGNIFICANT DEPOSITS & RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS ARE IN BANKSTERS’ CROSS-HAIRS!

Legendary gold trader Jim Sinclair has turned his sights from warning investors to protect themselves with gold to urgently warning them to exit the financial system immediately, and take possession of physical gold held in your own possession. Sinclair, who Friday warned investors that the US will be Cyprus’d and gold will reach $50,000/oz sent an email alert to subscribers Monday night warning that merely owning gold and storing is not enough, and that:
How you own and store becomes of critical and possibly terminal importance. Investors with significant deposits at in the system banks and brokers are in the dead center of harm’s way. Retirement accounts are also in the cross hairs of central planners.

Sinclair urges readers not to become a casualty of the central planners via the coming bail-in deposit confiscations, but to protect yourself by owning physical gold held outside of the financial system.

http://silverdoctors.com/jim-sinclai...s-cross-hairs/

Read more:
http://investmentwatchblog.com/stans...l-way-of-life/
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:10 AM   #4349
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Bump to say thank you to Ickeisright and the valuable info on this thread for helping me keep the faith over the years..
I started seriously stacking a while before this thread was started, every one thought i was crazy , the price was going down and it went into a bear market and all the mainstream commentary was very negative...very much like what is happening now.
I had always collected a few coins but pretty much went all in not long after this thread started..At the time if i sold all my asstes and bussiness (exept my portable hand tools) i could put down a deposit on a house..It seemed a no brainer to me at the time gold will go up house prices will go down and debts are for slaves..

well, i just sold most my stack and now own a house/sheds and large Irish acre, lock stock and fooking barrel..Priced at 200000 when i strated stacking my measely few k won the day

I dont want to brag or any thing but just want to say..keep the faith and look into the realities of money/gold /silver and make your own mind up..but in this thread lies a way out of the debt slavery paradigm.do your research and be patient. like most gold/silver gurus say expect to wiat at least five years..

thought i should share as it seems this thread only got lots of attention when the prices were high..Its when prices are low its good to look into the gold/silver story..and even if you did buy high keep the faith i am certain the fiat price cant be kept down for long.

Now i have a rent free workshop and small holding and my tools any surplus fiat will be converted that is for sure

And should add, keep it physical..sold off most my stack end of last year when i decided to buy this land and thought to speculate on bullionvault for a couple of months..got my karma for dealing with the devil (lbma) could only sell for spot and took a fair hit over the last month..every thing i sold physical i sold no problem well well over spot with no problems at all..Remeber its a terribly rigged market and is no good to make a quick buck over a short period..if your going into metals go in for the long run.
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Old 07-05-2013, 01:10 AM   #4350
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Bump to say thank you to Ickeisright and the valuable info on this thread for helping me keep the faith over the years..
I started seriously stacking a while before this thread was started, every one thought i was crazy , the price was going down and it went into a bear market and all the mainstream commentary was very negative...very much like what is happening now.
I had always collected a few coins but pretty much went all in not long after this thread started..At the time if i sold all my asstes and bussiness (exept my portable hand tools) i could put down a deposit on a house..It seemed a no brainer to me at the time gold will go up house prices will go down and debts are for slaves..

well, i just sold most my stack and now own a house/sheds and large Irish acre, lock stock and fooking barrel..Priced at 200000 when i strated stacking my measely few k won the day

I dont want to brag or any thing but just want to say..keep the faith and look into the realities of money/gold /silver and make your own mind up..but in this thread lies a way out of the debt slavery paradigm.do your research and be patient. like most gold/silver gurus say expect to wiat at least five years..

thought i should share as it seems this thread only got lots of attention when the prices were high..Its when prices are low its good to look into the gold/silver story..and even if you did buy high keep the faith i am certain the fiat price cant be kept down for long.

Now i have a rent free workshop and small holding and my tools any surplus fiat will be converted that is for sure

And should add, keep it physical..sold off most my stack end of last year when i decided to buy this land and thought to speculate on bullionvault for a couple of months..got my karma for dealing with the devil (lbma) could only sell for spot and took a fair hit over the last month..every thing i sold physical i sold no problem well well over spot with no problems at all..Remeber its a terribly rigged market and is no good to make a quick buck over a short period..if your going into metals go in for the long run.

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And about two weeks ago i finally got keys to my house/ruin/shed and bramble patch so been very busy..
But all good..got the brambles cleared will start work on the roof next (after clearing the roots and planting spuds) and the next rainy day set up orgonite/orgone tree workshop and study (some where quiet to get away from kids and think.. )

Cool story, dude, thanks for sharing. Glad to hear things are working out for you. All the best....
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Old 11-05-2013, 03:45 PM   #4351
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Cool story, dude, thanks for sharing. Glad to hear things are working out for you. All the best....
Well according to Mike Maloney next Monday and Tuesday should see the lowest prices and then he reckons its going to soar.

What do other think? Is it worth putting all the pennies in?
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:39 PM   #4352
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Well according to Mike Maloney next Monday and Tuesday should see the lowest prices and then he reckons its going to soar.

What do other think? Is it worth putting all the pennies in?
It's been "going to soar" for the past 3 or so years, but so far.......
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Old 11-05-2013, 09:10 PM   #4353
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Well according to Mike Maloney next Monday and Tuesday should see the lowest prices and then he reckons its going to soar.

What do other think? Is it worth putting all the pennies in?
I would be very cautious putting all my pennies in but would certainly be buying if i had any spare cash i didnt need for a while..That said I did put all/most my pennies in when the price and mainstream sentiment was down,just like now, and it paid off great, but dont expect it to happen overnight, patience is key.
Even with the price rigging and manipulation i still think Silver is the probarbly most undervalued stuff in human history...Just make sure its physical and in your possesion.
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Old 12-05-2013, 01:42 AM   #4354
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I would be very cautious putting all my pennies in but would certainly be buying if i had any spare cash i didnt need for a while..That said I did put all/most my pennies in when the price and mainstream sentiment was down,just like now, and it paid off great, but dont expect it to happen overnight, patience is key.
Even with the price rigging and manipulation i still think Silver is the probarbly most undervalued stuff in human history...Just make sure its physical and in your possesion.
I agree. If I had extra cash, I'd be buying silver, the mint, straight-from-the-mint, silver coins. Although the metals are seriously undervalued, this is primarily a wealth protection technique, but under the circumstances, we stand to increase our value dramatically - but as pogo says, patience is everything in this game....
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:06 PM   #4355
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Well according to Mike Maloney next Monday and Tuesday should see the lowest prices and then he reckons its going to soar.

What do other think? Is it worth putting all the pennies in?
Do you have a link for where you heard him say that? No particular reason, but MM is pretty much my favourite commentator in the PM field, so I try to track most of what he puts out. His long term fundemental picture is something that I have a lot of faith will play out... (sooner or) later. Having said that, his short term predictions based on technical analysis have been horrible so I wouldn't hold my breath on the above.. TA seems so meaningless in the current market that I'm surprised he even gets involved with it.. so many of these commentators embarass themselves with wrong prediction after wrong prediction.
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:16 PM   #4356
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I would be very cautious putting all my pennies in but would certainly be buying if i had any spare cash i didnt need for a while..That said I did put all/most my pennies in when the price and mainstream sentiment was down,just like now, and it paid off great, but dont expect it to happen overnight, patience is key.
Even with the price rigging and manipulation i still think Silver is the probarbly most undervalued stuff in human history...Just make sure its physical and in your possesion.
Glad it worked out for you man. You story is pretty much what I hope for myself. Looking back, I really jumped in too fast to the metals.. not in terms of due diligence and research as I did plenty of that, but just in terms of buying all at once. I shot off most of my ammunition in a short period of time, so am now down on my investment (a little).

But I don't regret the investment at all, sure it would be nice to be up right now, but as you said physical silver is unimaginably undervalued i believe. So I'm holding and waiting, patience is key... just wish I had a house and a plot of land to wait in!

Edit: Just a quick question, when you sold your stack how did you go about it? Did you go and trade in person, or send it or what? That's the one part I'm most unsure about in this whole process.. I will be pretty apprehensive when it comes time to sell... especially if the price has skyrocketed! How did you find the whole process?

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