Child Protection Farce

usher7777 · 30-06-2012, 10:44 PM

hello,

i'm a mother of 4. 13 years, 11 years, 17months and 8 weeks old.

my 17 month old is a very bright girl, rolling at 4 months, crawling at 6 months, walking at 10 months.

she had 3 accidents
1. at 4 months she rolled off my bed causing bruising to her face.
2. at 6 months she pushed herself out of her fathers arms, landed on the floor causing bruising to her face.
3.at 10 months she threw herself over the side of the settee, causing bruising to her face.

she was taken to the hospital emergency dept on all 3 occasions and all Doctors that saw her were completly happy with the explanations we gave and suspected no funny business.

4 months after her last accident it was decided we had to go to conference meeting to decide if she needed to go on the child protection register.

the conference meeting was the worst experience of my life, the reports contained information mostly about me. i have suffered from depression over the last 10 years, reactive depression. these reports made me out to be unstable with severe mental illness?
they contained (what i thought) was confidential medical records about me, provided by my doctor - apparently you have no right to privacy were child protection is concerned.

i was being regularly visited by a midwife, a cpn and my health visitor. all of whom had no concerns regarding my ability to look after my children.

at the conference meeting reports were read etc then it was voting time.

health visitor voted - no registration
midwife disagreed with registration but was not given a vote due to health being represented by the health visitor.
social worker voted - for registration under category of PHYSICAL ABUSE.

the chair of the meeting stated that as it was a tie the deciding vote would go to her - everybody i have spoken to in the room thought she was going to side with us.

at this point the social worker chipped in - i spoke to the police this morning, they couldnt attend but they told me they were going to support registration under the category of neglect. it felt like she had been keeping an ace up her sleeve to use if things didnt go her way. i even congratulated her on the way she played her hand at the meeting!

we were told at the beginning of the meeting the police were not in attendance as there were no records about us to discuss as neither of us have ever been it trouble.

the chair said she could not ignore the police view and would have to register for the shortest amount of time possible which was 8 weeks and under the lower category of the 2 recommendations which was neglect. we felt totally stitched up, the point of the meeting was to listen to the opinions of professionals and to make an informed decision. these meetings are a con. the outcome was known before we even walked through the door.
it only takes the social worker and police to agree and your children are on the register. what are the chances of these 2 agencies voting against each other?

we spoke to a solicitor and received a letter back from the council stating
"i acknowledge that the chair should not have given consideration to the police views when they were not in attendance. i intend to raise this matter formally with the police who should have been in attendance in person and provided a report"

i was 31 weeks pregnant at this meeting, at the next meeting 8 weeks later she was deregisterd completely it would be OUR DECISION to register as child in need or to discontinue involvement,

i went into labour the very next day. when the hospital contacted social services to clarify the position of my children regarding the register. a social worker told them that "all four of my children were on the child protection register"

we had a meeting with the social worker after the birth. we told her we wanted no further involvement, she said it was unusual for degristered children to come straight off and not have a period as child in need first. she said she would have to speak to her manager and get back to us.

2 days ago i took my baby to clinic to get weighed, my health visitor told me she was coming to a meeting at my house on the 4th of July arranged by the social worker as it had been decided by her manager my children would still need to be classed as child in need.

i was so angry that she had arranged this meeting at my house without my knowledge, apparently the meeting had been arranged for weeks!

i phoned her, told her to stuff her meeting, i'm not being bullied by them, i'm not going to co operate anymore, i have no respect for any decisions made by them anyway.

i have probably made loads of trouble for myself doing this but i'm sick of having no rights, made to doubt myself, made upset, arguing with my partner

i really feel i need to make a stand and fight this but honestly i'm shitting myself!

i have no idea what my rights are in this situation or why they doing it to us?

any comments from will be greatly appreciated.

thecatsmeow · 30-06-2012, 11:08 PM

Contact this man. He has helped Brian Gerrish before now.

Ian Josephs M.A.

usher7777 · 30-06-2012, 11:40 PM

oh jeez!

what a scary website hes got! i'm not paranoid afterall!

thank you for the recommendation xxx

thecatsmeow · 30-06-2012, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usher7777

oh jeez!

what a scary website hes got! i'm not paranoid afterall!

thank you for the recommendation xxx

You're welcome and good luck!

thecatsmeow · 01-07-2012, 12:16 AM

I don't know about anybody else but I've always had my suspicions about the amounts of money offered out for fostering kids and now my suspicions are confirmed. You should see this vid!

The Fostering Business Scandal

usher7777 · 03-07-2012, 12:59 PM

uggh, had a call from health visitor today, trying to arrange a meeting on behalf of the "SS"

apparently they have done a U turn and decided my children will not have to be classed as child in need.

agreed against my better judgement to another meeting. this meeting is apparently the "final one", they need one more to keep their paperwork in order.

we were told the last meeting we had after the case conference 6 weeks ago was the "final one" but anywho, we'll see how it goes.

arranged this meeting at my mothers house, want to try and keep them out of my home.

after what i've read on the internet over the last few days i will be less inclined to so willingly co operate with them. Forced adoption is shocking!

usher7777 · 03-07-2012, 01:03 PM

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/9422:

thecatsmeow · 03-07-2012, 01:25 PM

Petition signed!

I hope everything works out well for you

30-06-2012, 10:44 PM	#1
usher7777 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: UK Posts: 50	Child Protection Farce hello, i'm a mother of 4. 13 years, 11 years, 17months and 8 weeks old. my 17 month old is a very bright girl, rolling at 4 months, crawling at 6 months, walking at 10 months. she had 3 accidents 1. at 4 months she rolled off my bed causing bruising to her face. 2. at 6 months she pushed herself out of her fathers arms, landed on the floor causing bruising to her face. 3.at 10 months she threw herself over the side of the settee, causing bruising to her face. she was taken to the hospital emergency dept on all 3 occasions and all Doctors that saw her were completly happy with the explanations we gave and suspected no funny business. 4 months after her last accident it was decided we had to go to conference meeting to decide if she needed to go on the child protection register. the conference meeting was the worst experience of my life, the reports contained information mostly about me. i have suffered from depression over the last 10 years, reactive depression. these reports made me out to be unstable with severe mental illness? they contained (what i thought) was confidential medical records about me, provided by my doctor - apparently you have no right to privacy were child protection is concerned. i was being regularly visited by a midwife, a cpn and my health visitor. all of whom had no concerns regarding my ability to look after my children. at the conference meeting reports were read etc then it was voting time. health visitor voted - no registration midwife disagreed with registration but was not given a vote due to health being represented by the health visitor. social worker voted - for registration under category of PHYSICAL ABUSE. the chair of the meeting stated that as it was a tie the deciding vote would go to her - everybody i have spoken to in the room thought she was going to side with us. at this point the social worker chipped in - i spoke to the police this morning, they couldnt attend but they told me they were going to support registration under the category of neglect. it felt like she had been keeping an ace up her sleeve to use if things didnt go her way. i even congratulated her on the way she played her hand at the meeting! we were told at the beginning of the meeting the police were not in attendance as there were no records about us to discuss as neither of us have ever been it trouble. the chair said she could not ignore the police view and would have to register for the shortest amount of time possible which was 8 weeks and under the lower category of the 2 recommendations which was neglect. we felt totally stitched up, the point of the meeting was to listen to the opinions of professionals and to make an informed decision. these meetings are a con. the outcome was known before we even walked through the door. it only takes the social worker and police to agree and your children are on the register. what are the chances of these 2 agencies voting against each other? we spoke to a solicitor and received a letter back from the council stating "i acknowledge that the chair should not have given consideration to the police views when they were not in attendance. i intend to raise this matter formally with the police who should have been in attendance in person and provided a report" i was 31 weeks pregnant at this meeting, at the next meeting 8 weeks later she was deregisterd completely it would be OUR DECISION to register as child in need or to discontinue involvement, i went into labour the very next day. when the hospital contacted social services to clarify the position of my children regarding the register. a social worker told them that "all four of my children were on the child protection register" we had a meeting with the social worker after the birth. we told her we wanted no further involvement, she said it was unusual for degristered children to come straight off and not have a period as child in need first. she said she would have to speak to her manager and get back to us. 2 days ago i took my baby to clinic to get weighed, my health visitor told me she was coming to a meeting at my house on the 4th of July arranged by the social worker as it had been decided by her manager my children would still need to be classed as child in need. i was so angry that she had arranged this meeting at my house without my knowledge, apparently the meeting had been arranged for weeks! i phoned her, told her to stuff her meeting, i'm not being bullied by them, i'm not going to co operate anymore, i have no respect for any decisions made by them anyway. i have probably made loads of trouble for myself doing this but i'm sick of having no rights, made to doubt myself, made upset, arguing with my partner i really feel i need to make a stand and fight this but honestly i'm shitting myself! i have no idea what my rights are in this situation or why they doing it to us? any comments from will be greatly appreciated.

30-06-2012, 11:08 PM	#2
thecatsmeow Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the Vortex Posts: 4,881	Contact this man. He has helped Brian Gerrish before now. Ian Josephs M.A. __________________ Orgonite FMOTL Children of the Matrix Home Education Free The Planet Psychic Protection Children Lobsang T Rampa UK Column

01-07-2012, 12:16 AM	#5
thecatsmeow Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the Vortex Posts: 4,881	I don't know about anybody else but I've always had my suspicions about the amounts of money offered out for fostering kids and now my suspicions are confirmed. You should see this vid! The Fostering Business Scandal __________________ Orgonite FMOTL Children of the Matrix Home Education Free The Planet Psychic Protection Children Lobsang T Rampa UK Column

03-07-2012, 01:03 PM	#7
usher7777 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: UK Posts: 50	STOP FORCED ADOPTION PETITION - please sign http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/9422:

03-07-2012, 01:25 PM	#8
thecatsmeow Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the Vortex Posts: 4,881	Petition signed! I hope everything works out well for you __________________ Orgonite FMOTL Children of the Matrix Home Education Free The Planet Psychic Protection Children Lobsang T Rampa UK Column

30-06-2012, 11:40 PM	#3
usher7777 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: UK Posts: 50	oh jeez! what a scary website hes got! i'm not paranoid afterall! thank you for the recommendation xxx

03-07-2012, 12:59 PM	#6
usher7777 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: UK Posts: 50	uggh, had a call from health visitor today, trying to arrange a meeting on behalf of the "SS" apparently they have done a U turn and decided my children will not have to be classed as child in need. agreed against my better judgement to another meeting. this meeting is apparently the "final one", they need one more to keep their paperwork in order. we were told the last meeting we had after the case conference 6 weeks ago was the "final one" but anywho, we'll see how it goes. arranged this meeting at my mothers house, want to try and keep them out of my home. after what i've read on the internet over the last few days i will be less inclined to so willingly co operate with them. Forced adoption is shocking!