Anyone experienced Oneness?

[cleft_asunder]

Originally Posted by element

Why make yourself dependant on a material substance to achieve something spiritual, which can become addictive aswell..?

To each their own I guess...

I wasn't talking about drugs. I am saying it isn't hard through meditation. But it is impossible if you aren't doing pure meditation, and that is why many buddhist's become frustrated and commit suicide.

[middleway00]

Originally Posted by cleft_asunder

Only superficially does it seem so. I cannot disagree that all these teachers have a core truth. But there are wolves among them. In Buddhism there is a core truth but that core truth is kept from the seeker via cleverly designed dogma. In the same way, Maharshi teaches about non-duality, surrender, oneness and the spotless mind, while taking us away from it. You will not believe me until I make a thread about it.

i won't believe anybody.

Maharshi teaches about non-duality, surrender, oneness and the spotless mind, while taking us away from it.

when did he take you away from it? how would he do that?

wasn't it "you" who escaped.

[middleway00]

Originally Posted by cleft_asunder

I wasn't talking about drugs. I am saying it isn't hard through meditation. But it is impossible if you aren't doing pure meditation, and that is why many buddhist's become frustrated and commit suicide.

i do agree that dogma within any religion can create millions of thoughts that take us away from truth.

buddhism is probably one of the most ironic ideas i've ever seen.

life is suffering, yet there is no self.

many buddhists get stuck in the life is suffering bit, because they "believe" that they need to "do" something or "attain" something to "get across" to "no self".

HA! it's a comedy and a tragedy at once.

damn dogma

omg omg omg...look at this:

DOGMA...ok D O G M A -- DOG A domesticated carnivorous mammal MA Mother.

SO...Dogma is the mother of domestication..haha

now backwards...or forwards actually.

AMGOD... A M G O D -- AM v.First person singular present indicative of be. GOD The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.

So...AMGOD is the reality of our very being. WE ARE the manifestation/energy or being, which is ultimately totality. We have it pretty good dont we? haha.

AM GOD - being as we are eternally one with all that is.

DOGMA - becoming something we'll never be.

now look at any one who knows themselves. Tolle, Ramana, Mooji, Papaji, Gangaji, etc.

notice they never speak of dogma.

why?

they know that "i" AMGOD!

haha clever mind clever mind.

but it just goes to show how "evil" dogma is. it's taking the TRUTH(AMGOD) of the matter flipping it around only to redistribute it as truth(DOGMA).

DOGMA=/=AMGOD

[cleft_asunder]

Originally Posted by middleway00

i do agree that dogma within any religion can create millions of thoughts that take us away from truth.

buddhism is probably one of the most ironic ideas i've ever seen.

life is suffering, yet there is no self.

many buddhists get stuck in the life is suffering bit, because they "believe" that they need to "do" something or "attain" something to "get across" to "no self".

HA! it's a comedy and a tragedy at once.

damn dogma

omg omg omg...look at this:

DOGMA...ok D O G M A -- DOG A domesticated carnivorous mammal MA Mother.

SO...Dogma is the mother of domestication..haha

now backwards...or forwards actually.

AMGOD... A M G O D -- AM v.First person singular present indicative of be. GOD The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.

So...AMGOD is the reality of our very being. WE ARE the manifestation/energy or being, which is ultimately totality. We have it pretty good dont we? haha.

AM GOD - being as we are eternally one with all that is.

DOGMA - becoming something we'll never be.

now look at any one who knows themselves. Tolle, Ramana, Mooji, Papaji, Gangaji, etc.

notice they never speak of dogma.

why?

they know that "i" AMGOD!

haha clever mind clever mind.

but it just goes to show how "evil" dogma is. it's taking the TRUTH(AMGOD) of the matter flipping it around only to redistribute it as truth(DOGMA).

DOGMA=/=AMGOD

You're very observant! And I don't disagree with any of it. My only point was that, as you said as well, Tolle and the others are free of dogma, while Buddhism is composed of mainly dogma. And this is intentionally so. Those Buddhists are taught to believe that the world should be looked upon as shit, and so they must intricately deal with all their 5 senses, study them in full, so that they can identify that they are false --not Brahman. And they must eat just one bowl of rice a day like Guatama, and treat cold with indefference to warmth. And it is all false! They are doing everything in reverse! It's all flipped upside down. They aren't doing it the hard way, but the impossible way.

Ask yourself who benefits?

[cleft_asunder]

Originally Posted by middleway00

i won't believe anybody.



when did he take you away from it? how would he do that?

wasn't it "you" who escaped.

Not me, but the masses. A man who is not perceptive but craves enlightenment, for him it is easy to go down the wrong path. But, it's all good I ain't sweating it. Spiritually, worry about yourself.

[middleway00]

Originally Posted by cleft_asunder

You're very observant! And I don't disagree with any of it. My only point was that, as you said as well, Tolle and the others are free of dogma, while Buddhism is composed of mainly dogma. And this is intentionally so. Those Buddhists are taught to believe that the world should be looked upon as shit, and so they must intricately deal with all their 5 senses, study them in full, so that they can identify that they are false --not Brahman. And they must eat just one bowl of rice a day like Guatama, and treat cold with indefference to warmth. And it is all false! They are doing everything in reverse! It's all flipped upside down. They aren't doing it the hard way, but the impossible way.

Ask yourself who benefits?

Who benefits? The Mind/Matrix. The mind loves to "solve" problems.

[middleway00]

Originally Posted by cleft_asunder

Not me, but the masses. A man who is not perceptive but craves enlightenment, for him it is easy to go down the wrong path. But, it's all good I ain't sweating it. Spiritually, worry about yourself.

You say Maharshi takes us away from it, yet you haven't explained how he does that, I'd appreciate your insight on that.

However from my experience, Maharshi is one of the most direct pointers to exist in the last few hundred years. He rarely spoke, remaining as silence itself. He always would point out the crutches of the mind and in most cases, take those crutches away. While directing the seeker to remain just as they are. Not sure how he could take us any closer than that. After all, the apparent individual must walk through that last door, however they come to find it.

In the same way, Maharshi teaches about non-duality, surrender, oneness and the spotless mind, while taking us away from it. You will not believe me until I make a thread about it.

[cleft_asunder]

Originally Posted by middleway00

You say Maharshi takes us away from it, yet you haven't explained how he does that, I'd appreciate your insight on that.

However from my experience, Maharshi is one of the most direct pointers to exist in the last few hundred years. He rarely spoke, remaining as silence itself. He always would point out the crutches of the mind and in most cases, take those crutches away. While directing the seeker to remain just as they are. Not sure how he could take us any closer than that. After all, the apparent individual must walk through that last door, however they come to find it.

The silence, the opening of kundalini when looking into his eyes, must the conclusion be that he is spiritually enlightened? Look at the world we live in. We're in the middle of a snake pit. People need to realize that these demons and Reptilians have life-spans so great that they cannot even comprehend the level of intelligence those entities possess. Therefore, the conspiracy ain't gonna be on the level of a Tom Clancy novel. If I were them and I wanted to sustain my farm, it would be easy for me to throw in a false guru into the mix to keep the moths distracted, but mainly to keep them from spirituality. That is to say, what if Maharshi's soul is malevolant, carrying out a life-time mission for the forces of the dark? And what if he is an anti-christ figure? Think about that. If we're going to expose the conspiracy, we need to ascertain the perpetrators beyond our intelligence.



At face value Maharshi is spiritually Enlightened. Intellectually anylised, big questions spring up. For example, Maharshi tells the student that in order to reach spiritual enlightenment, he must go through him --through the guru that is Maharshi. Now, what was that you said about trusting no man? And you are absolutely right.

That's all I will say on the matter because I still plan on making a post about it.

[middleway00]

Originally Posted by cleft_asunder

The silence, the opening of kundalini when looking into his eyes, must the conclusion be that he is spiritually enlightened? Look at the world we live in. We're in the middle of a snake pit. People need to realize that these demons and Reptilians have life-spans so great that they cannot even comprehend the level of intelligence those entities possess. Therefore, the conspiracy ain't gonna be on the level of a Tom Clancy novel. If I were them and I wanted to sustain my farm, it would be easy for me to throw in a false guru into the mix to keep the moths distracted, but mainly to keep them from spirituality. That is to say, what if Maharshi's soul is malevolant, carrying out a life-time mission for the forces of the dark? And what if he is an anti-christ figure? Think about that. If we're going to expose the conspiracy, we need to ascertain the perpetrators beyond our intelligence.



At face value Maharshi is spiritually Enlightened. Intellectually anylised, big questions spring up. For example, Maharshi tells the student that in order to reach spiritual enlightenment, he must go through him --through the guru that is Maharshi. Now, what was that you said about trusting no man? And you are absolutely right.

That's all I will say on the matter because I still plan on making a post about it.

I can see why you would be distrustful, yet there's more evidence showing that ramana was the embodiment of truth, instead of reptilian overlords controlling all aspects of society. if ramana was living within a palace with government support, then i'd be much more suspicious, but as it is, he was very very, very simple. he even read the paper.

this quote from maharshi says it all in my mind.

“You need not aspire for or get any new state. Get rid of your present thoughts, that is all.”

which is exactly what papaji mooji and gangaji among others point to as well.

also the external guru is just a reflection of the living guru within all of us. the distrust of an external guru points out a distrust of the living guru within.

[tootrue]

Magic mushrooms - Oneness - Resercher Dede Osborn
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-Risxc...ategory/30/82/

Apparantly Magic mushrooms 'can produce fear, and intensive anxiety...'. Good job that we've got theMEDIA..., to warn us about those, ah!?

[academylin]

Originally Posted by middleway00

i do agree that dogma within any religion can create millions of thoughts that take us away from truth.

buddhism is probably one of the most ironic ideas i've ever seen.

life is suffering, yet there is no self.

many buddhists get stuck in the life is suffering bit, because they "believe" that they need to "do" something or "attain" something to "get across" to "no self".

HA! it's a comedy and a tragedy at once.

damn dogma

omg omg omg...look at this:

DOGMA...ok D O G M A -- DOG A domesticated carnivorous mammal MA Mother.

SO...Dogma is the mother of domestication..haha

now backwards...or forwards actually.

AMGOD... A M G O D -- AM v.First person singular present indicative of be. GOD The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being.

So...AMGOD is the reality of our very being. WE ARE the manifestation/energy or being, which is ultimately totality. We have it pretty good dont we? haha.

AM GOD - being as we are eternally one with all that is.

DOGMA - becoming something we'll never be.

now look at any one who knows themselves. Tolle, Ramana, Mooji, Papaji, Gangaji, etc.

notice they never speak of dogma.

why?

they know that "i" AMGOD!

haha clever mind clever mind.

but it just goes to show how "evil" dogma is. it's taking the TRUTH(AMGOD) of the matter flipping it around only to redistribute it as truth(DOGMA).

DOGMA=/=AMGOD

GENIUS !!!!!
THERE is your oneness !!
I love you Middleway!!!!!!