Bad Masons vs. Good Masons - Page 2

grandsecretary · 19-12-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by keystone

Yes perhaps he should have made that a bit clearer. But you also know as well as I do that there is also a formal disciplinary procedure laid down in the UGLE Book of Constitutions which includes an appeals procedure. Under UGLE offences against the law are properly ealt with in a Court Of Law before any masonic discipline procedures are invoked.

I'm going to ask it before someone (yes you can guess who!!) else does. Does YOUR formal judicial process acts outside and/or above the law of the land? Is it not misleading to call it a judicial process?

No, it is not misleading, but I see what you mean, and why we must be very clear.

Criminal Law is a matter for the State and we only act after the event, except in the case of a person who is charged with a criminal offence. In such a case suspension applies until a case is either dismissed, or a verdict reached.

There is however, a system of "masonic jurisprudence" in place in both Grand Lodges which acts in respect of internal disciplinary matters, for example breaches of the terms of The Constitutions of Masonrie.

It is against the rules of both Grand Lodges to be a Freemason if one is or has been convicted of a crime. It could not be clearer.

mynameis · 19-12-2008, 11:27 PM

Thanks for being considerate and understanding. Good information to know overall. I didn't know about the moral conduct n such. I didn't even know there were unrecognized lodges. What prevents a false lodge from being started? In this question, I'm thinking like the congruent CIA operation in Alias.

keystone · 20-12-2008, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mynameis

I didn't know about the moral conduct n such.

Thats very important despite what some would say.

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I didn't even know there were unrecognized lodges.

Oh boy! http://larcho.files.wordpress.com/20...orms_ahead.jpgfar too late in the day to go into that one. Perhaps tomorrow.

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What prevents a false lodge from being started?

Absolutely nothing. Thats where the questions of regularity and recognition come in.

19-12-2008, 11:27 PM	#22
mynameis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,553	Thanks for being considerate and understanding. Good information to know overall. I didn't know about the moral conduct n such. I didn't even know there were unrecognized lodges. What prevents a false lodge from being started? In this question, I'm thinking like the congruent CIA operation in Alias. __________________ I can no longer have fair and intelligent conversation with people here, without them resorting to the use of personal attacks. I have been targeted as a scapegoat for my defensive actions. I cannot discuss new topics and stop the rampant amounts of misinformation when it happens, where it applies. If it can happen to me it can happen to you. Last edited by mynameis; 19-12-2008 at 11:27 PM.