Cobain murdered by CIA

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can anyone help with the translation from French into English??? Please.
I am deeply interested in what this poor distressed child is attempting to draw and say. It is sickeningly sad to watch and particularly difficult to hear, such sobbing from someone so very young.....

PM me if you prefer, I very much want to know what this is about.
Thank you


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Simple Simon met a pieman

I have been trying to put this post together for quite some time, in fact, as soon as I saw the Have I got News for You satirical BBC tv program 'highlighting' it. It made my blood run cold. Then all the NLP references about his speech. Of course, it only 'works' if you know, or are aware of some of the triggers involved within the DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder)
13 times pensylvania 11 times

I am cross referencing to another post I did at the end of August, about Pi / pie.
This whole post is based on what is called 'layering', the use and abuse of same words / different meanings etc... I cannot tell anyone which of these are relevant, I only wish I could, I felt all of them have potential, and for all of you 'out there' and disbelieving, how IS that working for you? You may not understand, as I only understand a tiny amount of this, however just because you do not understand, does not make the information untrue.
A huge jigsaw, with no picture, thousands of snippets of information, I am attempting to put these pieces together, Triv Pursuit has a pie, all six pieces put together, make a winning pie, I imagine this may be in some way relevant, the placement of pieces of pie, which within the DID world is the meeting of many, all in different parts of the same mind. *shrugs*
The over use of the word 'pie' by barak is strange, to say the least, to discover he is using the same 'funny little story' at at least two of his rally's I find most peculiar, maybe he has used this story many times, I did not research the venues, two was enough for it to make me research it further.
If the word pie / Pi is a trigger word, just imagine what it may do to the 4.5 million DID victims in the USA, of which about 80% are victims of SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse) To name him 'pieman' as I have, brings in to play all of this post. Always remember, the abuse / trauma based mind control starts in utero, before birth, and the trauma continues for the next 20 years. It is also an album by Nirvana / Cobain.
I think the use of the nursery rhyme Simple Simon, is very relevant.

The Pieman River is a river on the West Coast of Tasmania, Australia. It was dammed with the 122m high Reece Dam in 1986 - creating Lake Pieman.
The once-common suggestion that it was named after a convict "The Pieman" Alexander Pearce who was responsible for one of the few recorded instances of cannibalism in Australia, is not correct. "The Pieman" was in fact Thomas Kent of Southampton, a pastry-cook who was transported to Van Diemen's Land in 1816. After a long series of offences in the colony, he was sent to the Macquarie Harbour penal settlement in 1822 but subsequently escaped, and was recaptured near the mouth of the river which now bears his nickname.[1] The river has significant timber, mining and industrial heritage along its shores.
Railways
The construction of the scheme also altered the route of the Emu Bay Railway, and submerged a variety of rail heritage sites in the vicinity of the river, notably parts of the Wee Georgie Wood Railway or North Farrell Tramway line.

Alexander Pearce (1790 - 1824) [1] was a convict in Tasmania.
Cannibal
Alexander Pearce gained a reputation as a bushranger who had escaped from the Macquarie Harbour Penal Settlement and is best known for cannibalising his fellow escapees while travelling through the West Coast Tasmania.
Dying Breed
In 2008 a spate of film productions regarding Pearce are being made. One is in post production of a horror/thriller called Dying Breed, based on the alleged descedants of Alexander Pearce. Shot in Tasmania and Melbourne (including at the Pieman River in North West Tasmania), Dying Breed stars writer/actor, Leigh Whannell and Nathan Phillips.

The Last Confession of Alexander Pearce

Producer and co-writer Nial Fulton [2] began developing The Last Confession of Alexander Pearce in Ireland in 1998 and production began on the project in Australia in the summer of 2006. The Last Confession of Alexander Pearce was inspired by the remarkable true story of an escape from the Sarah Island penal settlement in Macquarie Harbour, Van Diemen's Land in 1822 by Irish convict Alexander Pearce and the subsequent confession he made to the Hobart priest Phillip Conolly days before he was executed for the murder of fellow convict Thomas Cox.
The Last Confession of Alexander Pearce follows the final days of Irish convict Alexander Pearce's life as he awaits execution. The year is 1824 and the British penal colony of Van Diemen's Land is little more than a living hell. Chained to a wall in the darkness of a cell under Hobart Gaol, Pearce is visited by Father Conolly, the parish priest of the fledgling colony and a fellow Irishman. Pearce wishes to tell the priest his recollection of the horrors he endured in the three months spent traversing the brutal wilderness of Van Diemen's Land. Conolly struggles to reconcile his desire to grant absolution to the convict with the story Pearce tells him.

Simple Simpson

The concept is mainly inspired by (and parodies) the 2002 Spider-Man movie, though it contains elements of other superheroes as well.

Recalling a warning from Chief Wiggum that he will be arrested if he commits another felony assault, Homer disguises himself as a masked superhero, "The Pie Man", and throws a pie straight into the Rich Texan's face, leaving the crowd laughing. The next day, Lisa is seen drawing her favorite superhero - Pie Man.

Nichelle Nichols of Star Trek, whom the Comic Book Guy invited for tea and some chit chat, suddenly shows up and is turned off by the pie on his face. This humiliates him in front of the kids and he runs away in tears.

Burns makes Homer his personal hitman and threatens to reveal his identity to the rest of the city if he does not comply.

His first task is to pie himself, then a girl-scout. Mr. Burns and Smithers come to the town square in disguise to Homer to show that his next assignment is throw a pie in the face of the Tibetan Buddhist spiritual teacher, the Dalai Lama (who Mr. Burns said did something to his Chinese masters).

The title of this episode is a reference to the Mother Goose Nursery Rhyme, "Simple Simon", in which the main character visits the pie man.

Simple Simon (nursery rhyme)

Simple Simon met a pieman
Going to the fair;
Says Simple Simon to the pieman,
"Let me taste your ware."

Says the pieman to Simple Simon,
"Show me first your penny."
Says Simple Simon to the pieman,
"Indeed I have not any."

He went to catch a dickey bird,
And thought he could not fail,
Because he'd got a little salt,
To put upon his tail.

He went to take a bird's nest,
Was built upon a bough;
The branch gave way and Simon fell
Into a dirty slough.

He went to shoot a wild duck,
But wild duck flew away;
Say Simon, I can't hit him,
Because he will not stay."

Simple Simon went a-fishing,
For to catch a whale;
All the water he had got
Was in his mother's pail.

Simple Simon went a-hunting,
For to catch a hare;
He rode an ass about the streets,
But couldn't find one there.
He went for to eat honey,
Out of the mustard pot;
He bit his tongue until he cried,
That was all the good he got.

He went to ride a spotted cow
That had a little calf;
She threw him down upon the ground,
Which made the people laugh.

Once Simon made a great snowball,
And brought it in to roast;
He laid it down before the fire,
And soon the ball was lost.

He went to slide upon the ice
Before the ice would bear;
Then he plunged in above his knees,
Which made poor Simon stare.

He washed himself with blacking ball,
Because he had no soap;
Then said unto his mother,
"I'm a beauty now, I hope."

Simple Simon went to look
If plums grew on a thistle;
He pricked his fingers very much,
Which made poor Simon whistle.

He went for water in a sieve,
But soon it all ran through.
And now poor Simple Simon
Bids you all adieu.

Simple Simon (nursery rhyme)
Because of this, he became a comic foil in pantomime, most commonly Mother Goose.

Laurel and Hardy "played", respectively, Simple Simon and the pieman in Walt Disney's animated short, Mother Goose Goes Hollywood.

The Three Stooges did a variant version, which began the usual way, and ended this way...

Said de pieman to Simple Simon,
"Foist let me see yah penny."
Said Simple Simon to de pieman,
"Nah! Ya don't get any!"
(And a pie in the face)

In the film Die Hard With A Vengeance, the antagonist Simon Gruber's, played by Jeremy Irons, first lines in the film are a taunt to the police:

"Said Simple Simon to the pie man going to the fair: Give me your pies... or I'll cave your head in."

Another variant of the nursery rhyme was an animated film on Sesame Street, in which instead of the pieman, Simple Simon meets three weird looking animals; a wingless duck with boots, a sheep with two small legs, and a snake with wings and boots. He presumes that something is wrong, and while he's thinking, the animals correct themselves until the have their correct parts. Then, somewhat late, Simple Simon has figured out what's wrong: "Sheep don't wear boots!"

Mercury Rising is a 1998 action thriller feature film, starring Bruce Willis and Alec Baldwin. Directed by Harold Becker, the movie is based on Ryne Douglas Pearson's 1996 novel; originally published as Simple Simon. Bruce Willis plays Art Jeffries, an undercover FBI agent who protects a nine-year-old autistic boy who is the target of assassins after cracking a top secret government code.

Plot
A cryptographic code called "Mercury" was created by the National Security Agency, so complex that its creators believe no computer on earth can decipher it. Originally created during the Reagan Administration as a test to keep the United States' highest priority secrets under wraps, their assumption is revealed to be false when they receive a message from an autistic savant boy named Simon Lynch (Miko Hughes) who calls a telephone number written in the code, which was secretly published in a puzzle magazine by two of the creators to see if anyone could break it. Colonel Kudrow (Alec Baldwin), perceiving the boy's ability to decipher the code as a liability, seeks to silence Simon; he sends a hit man to murder Simon and his family.

(I'm just as plain and simple as you can plainly see thats why im plain and simple as simple as can beeeee)Queen of Hearts, one legged soldier, Humpty Dumpty all make an appearance. Lots and lots of spinning, even a mention of a lollipop

Simon

Simon is a common name, from Hebrew שִׁמְעוֹן Šimʿon, meaning "he [God] has heard" (compare Ishmael).

Tribe of Simeon, one of the twelve tribes of Israel

Simon (game)

Simon is an electronic game of rhythm and memory skill invented by Ralph H. Baer and Howard J. Morrison (See U.S. Patent 4207087[1]), with the software programming being done by Lenny Cope and manufactured and distributed by Milton Bradley. Simon was launched in 1978 at Studio 54 in New York City and became an immediate success. It became a pop culture symbol of the 1980s.

The marketing slogan of Simon was: Simon's a computer, Simon has a brain, you either do what Simon says or else go down the drain.

Simon's tones, on the other hand, were designed to always be harmonic, no matter what order they were played in, and consisted of:

A (red, upper right);
A (green, upper left, an octave higher than the upper right);
D (blue, lower right, a perfect fourth higher than the upper right);
G (yellow, lower left, a perfect fourth higher than the lower right).

Simon (1980 film)
The Institute for Advanced Concepts, a group of scientists with an unlimited budget and a propensity for elaborate pranks, brainwash a scientist who was abandoned at birth (played by Alan Arkin) to convince him that he is of extraterrestrial origin. He then escapes and attempts to reform American culture by overriding TV signals with a high power TV transmitter, becoming a national celebrity in the process.

Simon Necronomicon

The Simon Necronomicon (or Simonomicon) is a grimoire which some consider the best-known version of the fictional Necronomicon. It is called the "Simon Necronomicon" because its introduction was written by a man identified only as "Simon." The book is largely based on Sumerian mythology and its introduction attempts to identify the Great Old Ones and other creatures that are also found in Lovecraft's Mythos with gods and demons from the Sumerian myths. The myths presented in the book are a blend of Mesopotamian myths (not only Sumerian, but Akkadian, Babylonian and Assyrian as well), and a storyline of unknown authenticity about a man known as the "Mad Arab."

The book was released in 1977 by Schlangekraft, Inc. in a limited leatherbound edition of 666, which was followed by a clothbound edition of 3333, and later by an Avon paperback.[1] It has never been out of print since 1980 and has sold 800,000 copies by 2006 making it the most popular version of the Necronomicon to date.

The introduction to the book (comprising about 50 pages of a total of around 250) is the only part that Simon indicates that he wrote. It relates how Simon and his associates were said to have been introduced to a copy of the Greek Necronomicon by a mysterious monk. The introduction also attempts to establish links between Lovecraft, Aleister Crowley and Sumerian mythology, as well as draw parallels to other religions (such as Christianity, Wicca, and Satanism). Some of the discussion is based on ideas concerning the connection between Crowley and Lovecraft first put forward by Kenneth Grant.

The Testimony is in two parts that form a prologue and an epilogue to the core Necronomicon. The author is described as a "Mad Arab".

The prologue tells how the Mad Arab first came to know of the existence of the dark secrets he is writing down (by accidentally witnessing an arcane ritual performed by a cult of the Ancient Ones).

In the epilogue, the Mad Arab is haunted by demons and monsters. He fears that his gods have foresaken him due to some sin he believes to have unwittingly committed. He is taken away by these demons before he is able to sign his work, thus becoming nameless.

Magic
Much of the book is a guide to magic. Many magical incantations, seals and rituals are described. Most of these are used to ward off evil or to invoke the Elder Gods to one's aid. Some of them are curses to be used against one's enemies. The incantations are written in a mix of English and ancient Sumerian with a few possible misspellings in the Sumerian words.

The many magical seals in the book usually pertain to a particular god or demon and are used when invoking the entity. In some cases there are specific instructions on how to carve the seals, including the materials that should be used and the time of day it should be carved. In other cases, only the seal itself is given.

The book mentions in some rituals that sacrifices should be offered. In one ritual it says a human sacrifice of eleven men is needed to enchant a sword to summon Tiamat.(p. 160-161)

The introduction and the book's marketing make sensational claims for the book's magical power. The back blurb states it was "the most potent and potentially, the most dangerous Black Book known to the Western World" and that its rituals will bring "beings and monsters" into "physical appearance". The books introduction gives readers frequent warnings that the powers it contains are potentially life threatening, and that perfect mental health is needed otherwise the book is extremely dangerous and that a curse hit those who helped publish the book. It also claims that standard magical protections and banishing will not work on the entities in the book.

The Ancient Ones now lie "not dead but dreaming", awaiting a day when they may return to life. To do this, they are dependent upon the positions of the stars as well as the sacrifices of their mortal followers. Critics claim that this is an obvious attempt to reconcile these myths with Cthulhu Mythos stories such as The Call of Cthulhu and with the Armageddon and Apocalypse of Judeo-Christianity where, following the conflagration of the End Times, the flesh of the vanquished Leviathan is then served up to the victorious survivors for dinner.

Accusations of Black magic and Connections to Murder
The sensational claims for the book's power and its avowed connection to evil forces meant it has been frequently condemned as black magic by Christian groups. One example is Patricia Pulling who in her book, The Devil's Web: Who Is Stalking Your Children For Satan? published by Vital Issues Press, 1989) warned against the Simon Necronomicon which she claimed was used regularly by teenagers; one portion of the book urges police officers to open interrogations of suspected teenage occultists with the question, "Have you read the Necronomicon, or are you familiar with it?" [6]

The book has featured as courtroom evidence in the murder trials of Roderick Ferrell and Glen Mason with suggestions that it played a part in these crimes which were claimed to be Satanic human sacrifices. Ferrell in particular seems to have taken the book very seriously indeed using it as part of the rituals in his small cult.

Necronomicon Lovecraft was often asked about the veracity of the Necronomicon, and always answered that it was completely his invention. In a letter to Willis Conover, Lovecraft elaborated upon his typical answer:

Now about the “terrible and forbidden books” — I am forced to say that most of them are purely imaginary. There never was any Abdul Alhazred or Necronomicon, for I invented these names myself. Robert Bloch devised the idea of Ludvig Prinn and his De Vermis Mysteriis, while the Book of Eibon is an invention of Clark Ashton Smith's. Robert E. Howard is responsible for Friedrich von Junzt and his Unaussprechlichen Kulten.... As for seriously-written books on dark, occult, and supernatural themes — in all truth they don’t amount to much. That is why it’s more fun to invent mythical works like the Necronomicon and Book of Eibon.[3]

Reinforcing the book's fictionality, the name of the book's supposed author, Abdul Alhazred, is not even a grammatically correct Arabic name. The name "Abdul" simply means "the worshiper/slave of...". Standing alone, it would make no sense, as Alhazred is not a last name in the Western sense, but a reference to a person's place of birth.

Roderick Justin Ferrell(born March 28, 1980) was the leader of a loose-knit gang of teenagers from Murray, Kentucky, infamously known as the "Vampire Clan." In 1998, Ferrell pled guilty to the double slaying of a couple from Eustis, Florida, becoming the youngest person in the United States on Death Row. Ferrell told people that he was a 500-year-old vampire named Vesago. He was also diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, essentially a form of high-functioning autism.

On November 25, 1996 (the week of Thanksgiving), Naoma Queen and Richard Wendorf were found beaten to death in their Eustis home. While 42-year-old Richard Wendorf was asleep on his couch, Ferrell had entered the home and beaten him multiple times with a crowbar, fracturing both his skull and ribs. When Queen had found Ferrell in the home moments later, he bludgeoned her to death, bashing her head with the crowbar. He claimed in his confession, however, that in his original plan, he was going to allow Naoma Queen to live, but she first attacked him by lunging at him and throwing a very hot cup of coffee on him, which angered him and made him change his mind and kill her also. The victims were found bearing burn marks in the shape of a V. It was said that the V was Rod's symbol, which he accompanied with a dot for each person he considered to be in his vampire cult.

Whether this is a real tattoo, or some kind of symbolism for the film, I do not know. Nor do I know for certain what Mr. Diesel's view are. What I do know is that this points towards evidence of what I have been arguing for quite a while: there are hardcore occultists that influence Hollywood and much of the world. The symbol shown is the symbol found on the cover of the modern printing of the "Necronomicon" by Avon Press. Whether this book is a forgery by an OTO member or H.P. Lovecraft or not, is ultimately irrelevant. The point is that this is material used by serious occultists. The book is dedicated to Aleister Crowley, if that tells you anything

Simon says Simon says is a game for three or more players (most often children). One of the people is "it" – i.e., Simon. The others must do what Simon tells them to do when asked with a phrase beginning with "Simon says". If Simon says "Simon says jump", the players must jump (players that do not jump are out). However, if Simon says simply "jump", without first saying "Simon says", players do not jump; those that do jump are out. In general, it is the spirit of the command, not the actions that matters; if Simon says "Simon says touch your toes", players only have to show that they are trying to touch their toes. It is the ability to distinguish between valid and invalid commands, rather than physical ability, that matters here.

The name of the game also inspired a classic 1980s electronic toy named Simon by computer games inventor Ralph H. Baer.[2] It is a circular electronic game featuring four colored quadrants. The game will flash quadrants in turn and expect you to repeat the sequence. If you get the sequence correct, the game will respond with a longer sequence. There is also a classic Simon Says-like mode called Tricky Mickey in the 1989 Milton Bradley game of physical skill Mickey Says, which features Mickey Mouse as its host.

Simon Says (film)

Plot
Five teenagers set-off on spring break only to have their vacation plans interrupted by the mysterious disappearance of one of their friends. Before long, the kids realize they'd made a grave mistake trusting an odd set of twins called Simon and Stanley who recommended the cursed lakeside campsite. A series of fiendish woodland man-traps soon pick off Riff, Vicky and Ashley, and Kate looks on in horror as Simon chains dope-smoker Zack to a tree with barbed wire and makes him inhale on a monster-sized reefer, the ash of which ignites and burns him alive. Kate escapes but ultimately becomes a captive of the deranged Simon, who has dispatched his brother Stanley in similar gruesome fashion. The film ends with another set of teenagers presenting themselves as further victims for Simon, whose penalty if they forget to say "Simon says..." is death.

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Simon, King of the Witches Simon, King of the Witches, a rarely-seen 1971 film, directed by Bruce Kessler and starring Andrew Prine, is not technically a horror film as the title might suggest. It falls much more in the realm of campy psychedelia, with Prine playing a cynical Ceremonial magician named Simon Sinestrari who is on a quest to become a god. Simon lives in a sewer, selling his charms and potions for money, when he is befriended by a young male prostitute named Turk (actor George Paulsin). Turk introduces Simon to his world of drugs, wild parties, and hysterical Wiccan rituals featuring a goat and Andy Warhol star Ultra Violet. Death and mayhem ensue, along with romance for Simon with the district attorney's daughter (played by Brenda Scott). Whether the film's ending is a happy one remains subjective, but the journey, the script, the characters, and Andrew Prine's performance have made this film into a cult classic.

What sets Simon, King of the Witches apart from the legion of occult genre films of the late 60's and early 70's is the script, which is far more literate and versed in the esoteric than the norm, both offering new twists to and poking fun at the clichés of the genre. The character of Simon Sinestrari was reputedly based on the public persona of the ceremonial magician and occult author Poke Runyon, a well-known figure in the Southern California Neopagan scene at that time. Runyon himself acknowledges the likeness, and has said that the only major inaccuracy is that he "never lived in a sewer".

Simon is also much more of a satire than a horror film. Several scenes are obviously meant to be taken as black comedy, a fact that tends to escape traditional horror fans.

The movie begins with Simon walking in the rain, reciting a monologue about being a powerful warlock, after which he is immediately busted for vagrancy.
Simon lives in a storm drain, where he performs rituals to the Goddess Aphrodite, and advises us on magical etiquette.
A rainstorm floods the storm drain and washes away his magical paraphernalia.
Simon's fortunes improve and, per the stereotype of many "powerful magicians", takes up residence in a basement (though, breaking another stereotype, it is not his parents' basement).
Turk and Simon crash a "Wiccan" ceremony presided over by Ultra Violet. Every cliché in the book is dragged out, from spooky music, sinister chants, references to "Queen of the Night", to people undressing and eventually worshiping a real live goat. In a separate room, Turk is getting it on with a nude woman on an altar who refers to herself as a "sacred object" (a reference to the Church of Satan tradition of woman-as-altar). Simon is thoroughly unimpressed with the goings on and eventually ridicules the coven much in the way Frank Langella mocks Lena Olin's devil worshipers in the Roman Polanski film The Ninth Gate. The amused couple make a hasty exit with the angered Wiccans on their tail.
Simon commands a pulsing ball of light that attempts to harm him, pointing his athame (ritual knife) at it and declaring, "I am Simon! I am God!"
Simon shares with us his elaborate plans to enter the realm of the gods via sex magic, a special mirror, and the importance of proper timing.
Simon attempts to hex "the establishment", to the delight of drug dealers and petty criminals.
Simon yells at the gods, "Yea, though you may cast me down, I will rise and rise again until I stand among you!"

Simon Templar is a British fictional character known as The Saint in a long-running series of books by Leslie Charteris published between 1928 and 1963. After that date other authors collaborated with Charteris on the books until 1983; two additional works produced without Charteris' participation were published in 1997. The character has also appeared in motion pictures, radio dramas, comic strips, and three television series.

The Saint is a 1997 film based on the character of Simon Templar created by Leslie Charteris in 1928 for a series of books published as "The Saint." Aside from the book series, which ran until 1983, the character has also featured in a series of Hollywood movies made between 1938 and 1954, a 1940s radio series starring Vincent Price (and others) as Templar, a popular British television series of the 1960s which starred Roger Moore, and a 1980s series starring Ian Ogilvy.

The film stars Val Kilmer, Elisabeth Shue, and Rade Šerbedžija. It was directed by Phillip Noyce and written by Jonathan Hensleigh and Wesley Strick.

In this version, Kilmer's character does not claim to be the Simon Templar created by Charteris. He is, in fact, an orphan who chooses his name, Simon Templar--the first name from Simon Magus, and the last name from his childhood heroes, the Knights Templar. He refers to himself as Templar only during a flashback sequence at the start of the film.

Simon Magus (Greek Σίμων ό μάγος), also known as Simon the Sorcerer and Simon of Gitta, is the name used by early Christian writers to refer to a person identified as a Samaritan proto-Gnostic. The name was also used generically by early Christian writers to refer to a person who founded his own religious sect.
Christian tradition
The figure appeared prominently in several apocryphal accounts by early Christian authors, who regarded him as the first heretic. He appears in the canonical Acts of the Apostles, verses 8:9-24, where he tries to offer money to the Apostles in exchange for miraculous abilities, specifically the power of laying on of hands. The sin of simony, or paying for position and influence in the church, is named for Simon. Verse 6.19 of the Apostolic Constitutions accuse him of antinomianism.[1]

According to reports by ancient Christian writers, the Gnostic sect of Simonianism believed that Simon Magus was God (as conceived by the Gnostics) in human form. Almost all of the surviving sources for the life and thought of Simon Magus are contained in works from ancient Christian writers: in the Acts of the Apostles, in patristic works (Irenaeus, Justin Martyr, Hippolytus of Rome), and in the apocryphal Acts of Peter, early Clementine literature, and the Epistle of the Apostles.

Simeon the Holy Fool (Abba Simeon, Saint Simeon Salos or Saint Simeon Salus) was a Christian monk, hermit and saint of the VI-th century A.D. He is considered to be a patron saint of all holy fools and also puppeteers.
Simeon was Syrian by origin and reportedly born in Edessa, where he lived unmarried with his old mother.[3] With his fellow ascetic friend John from Edessa, Simeon at the age of 30 years[3] took the monastic vows in monastery of Abba Gerasimus in Syria. After that Simeon and John spent about 29 years in desert near the Dead sea practicing ascetism and spiritual exercises.[4] Later Simeon was urged by inspiration of God, as some sources say[3], to move to Emesa for social and charity services. Reportedly the saint asked the Lord to permit him to serve people in such a way that they should not acknowledge him. There, through simulating madness and upseting conventional rules, he was able to bring many citizens to repentance, save many souls from sin and convert them to Christianity.

Simeon entered the gate of Emesa (after spending many years in desert) dragging a dead dog. Schoolchildren saw him and shouted (κράζειν) "Hey, a crazy abba...". The next day, a Sunday, he entered the church, extinguished the lights and threw nuts at women. On the way out of the church, Simeon overturned (έστρεψεν) the tables of the pastry chefs (πλακουντάριοι).[5] Such playing the fool was subject to insults, abuse and beatings, which Simeon endured with patience. In spite of his seemingly strange behaviour, Simeon the Holy Fool healed many possessed people by his prayer, fed the hungry, preached the Gospel, and helped needy citizens of the town. Many of Simeon’s saintly deeds were done secretly.

Symeon played all sorts of roles foolish and indecent, but language is not sufficient to paint a picture of his doings. For sometimes he pretended to have a limp, sometimes he jumped around, sometimes he dragged himself along on his buttocks, sometimes he stuck out his foot for someone running and tripped him. Other times when there was a new moon, he looked at the sky and fell down and thrashed about.

The saint died about 570 A.D. and was buried by the city poor in a place, where the homeless and strangers was buried. While the body of Saint Simeon were carried, several people heard a wondrous church choir[3].

Only after his death the secret of his imitative foolishness came to light. Some inhabitants remembered his acts of kindness and reportedly strange and powerful miracles.

Simon Sudbury Simon Theobald or Simon of Sudbury (died 14 June 1381) was an Archbishop of Canterbury (1375–1381) as well as Bishop of London.

Sudbury was dragged to Tower Hill and, on 14 June 1381,[2] was beheaded. His body was afterwards buried in Canterbury Cathedral, though his head (after being taken down from London Bridge) is still kept at the church of St Gregory at Sudbury in Suffolk, which Sudbury partly rebuilt.[4] With his brother, John of Chertsey, he also founded a college in Sudbury; he also did some building at Canterbury. His father was Nigel Theobald, and he is sometimes called Simon Theobald or Tybald.

Simeon Saxe-Coburg-Gotha Simeon of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (Bulgarian: Симеон Сакскобургготски; German: Simeon von Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha) or Simeon II of Bulgaria (born June 16, 1937) was head of state as the Tsar of the Kingdom of Bulgaria, Tsar Simeon II, from 1943 to 1946. He served as Prime Minister of the Republic of Bulgaria from 2001 until August 2005. He is known in the English speaking world as Simeon Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, which is the name of his family's ancestral homeland without the preceding von (of).

Simeon is one of the last living heads of state from the World War II-era and he is also the only monarch in history who also became head of government of his country through a land-slide victory in democratic nation-wide elections, after 55 years of exile imposed on his family by the communist republic established in 1946. Simeon is a relative of the British Queen Elizabeth II and Belgian King Albert II. They belong to the House of Wettin. The Bulgarian Royal House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha is also a link between them. Simeon is a Knight of the Golden Fleece.

Simeon is the only living person who still bears the Slavonic title "Tsar". He never signed any abdication papers although he was deposed by the communists in 1946 and the monarchy was abolished through a plebiscite held in the presence of the Soviet army.

He became Tsar on August 28, 1943 upon the death of his father, shortly after his return to Bulgaria from a meeting with Adolf Hitler.[2][3] Since Tsar Simeon was only six years old upon assuming the throne, his uncle Prince Kyril of Bulgaria, Prime Minister Bogdan Filov, and Lieutenant-General Nikola Mihailov Mihov of the Bulgarian Army were appointed regentsHe became Tsar on August 28, 1943 upon the death of his father, shortly after his return to Bulgaria from a meeting with Adolf Hitler.[2][3] Since Tsar Simeon was only six years old upon assuming the throne, his uncle Prince Kyril of Bulgaria, Prime Minister Bogdan Filov, and Lieutenant-General Nikola Mihailov Mihov of the Bulgarian Army were appointed regents

Simeon II has never renounced his royal claim to the Bulgarian throne. He has used the title "Tsar of the Bulgarians" in his political statements during his exile. Since his return to Bulgaria, however, Simeon has consistently declined to reveal his views on the restoration of the Bulgarian monarchy.

Saint Simon the Shoemaker (10th century), also known as Simon the Tanner (Sama'an el-Dabbagh in Arabic), is the Coptic Orthodox saint associated with the legend of the moving the Mokattam Mountain in Cairo, Egypt, during the rule of the Muslim Fatimid Caliph Al-Muizz Li-Deenillah (953 - 975).
Saint Simon the Tanner lived towards the end of the tenth century when Egypt was ruled by the Fatimid Caliph Al-Muizz, and Abraam the Syrian was the 62nd Coptic Pope (975 - 978).

At the time, many Copts (Coptic Christians) in Egypt were engaged in handicrafts. Saint Simon worked in one of those crafts widespread in Babylon (Old Cairo) which was tanning, a craft still known there till this day. This profession involved also other crafts that depend on the process, from where St. Simon carried several titles related to skins; Saint Simon the Tanner, the Cobbler, the Shoemaker.

Swedish progressive rock band, Simon Says.

Abdul Alhazred is a fictional character created by American horror writer H. P. Lovecraft. He is the so-called "Mad Arab" credited with authoring the imaginary book Kitab al-Azif (the Necronomicon), and as such an integral part of Cthulhu Mythos lore.

Rod Ferrell

But unlike most of his peers, Rod Ferrell seems to have been born with a genius intelligence and the ability to memorize names, accents, and customs from different eras and places with ease, along with a talent to "perform" what he claimed to be. That he also happened to be deranged shouldn't be overlooked,

Rod Ferrell's Confession

Q: Okay.
A: Uhm, Scott was following right behind me like a little lost puppy and then before her mother got out of the shower, I went to her dad and smacked the fuck out of him until he finally quit breathing so yes, I'm admitting to murder.

Q: Okay.
A: Actually it took him about twenty fucking minutes to stop, I swear, I thought he was immortal or something.

Q: What did you hit him with?
A: A crowbar. I was going to use a machete or chainsaw but that was too messy, just nasty.

Q: Crowbar's pretty messy too you know.
A: No, it only got a little blood spot on me - surprisingly - but anyway, so after that I basically picked his body up, screwed him around and looked for his wallet and stuff and that's where we found his Discover card.

Q: All right.
A: And about two minutes after that I flipped him back over, he was, the mother came out of the shower with a nice hot cup of coffee that she spilled all over me, cause she was asking me what did I want, cause she thought I was just robbing them.

Q: She hadn't seen her husband yet?
A: No, I made sure that he was hidden.

Q: Okay.
A: Didn't want her to freak. So she didn't, like I said, she just basically looked straight at me and said, what do you want? By that time, you know, it was pretty obvious, I had blood on me and a crowbar in my hand, I was fixing to say, yeah, I want to have coffee with you, son of a bitching smartass, but anyway then that's when she lunged at me, cause I was actually going to let her live, but after she lunged at me I just took the bottom of the crowbar, and kept stabbing it through her skull and whenever she fell down I just continually beat her until I saw her brains falling on the floor, cause that pissed me off. That's how I got these.

Q: She scratched ya.
A: She clawed me, clawed me, spilled fucking scolding hot coffee on me, pissed me off.

Q: Okay
A: So I made sure she was dead.

Q: Where was Scott during all this time?
A: Oh God, he totally froze. He's never seen people get killed before because he was hyped about telling me how he was going to kill them so basically he is just an accessory

Q: Any questions?
Dewey: Rod, you talked about a, you said that Scott never saw a murder before, did you see a murder before then?
A: I've fucking seen murders like all my life, every since I was five cause my grandfather for one, he's never been caught either.

Q: You saw these people murder other people?
A: He's part of an organization called the Black Mask. Whenever I was five they chose me as the Guardian of the Black Mask and the Guardian has to become one with everybody. In other words, they raped me. And they have to sacrifice a human to the Guardian so they sacrificed someone right in front of me.

Q: What city was that in?
A: It was in Murray.

Q: Would you call that a cult?
A: Yeah.

Q: To be straight up with ya, yeah, it's probably going to entail the death penalty.
A: Petty.

Q: Yeah, there you go.
A: I'm sorry, this is just like a big fucking joke. My life seems like a dream. My childhood was taken away at five, I don't know whether I'm asleep or dreaming anymore so whatever, for all I know I could wake up in five minutes.

Q: Okay Rod, well, they're going to come here and they're probably going to want to talk to you and it's up to you whether you talk to them or not.
A: I hope they're nice like you all, you know. If they're assholes I'm just going to be really quiet and clam up.

Q: Okay.
A: I didn't speak for two years at one time so I can do it again.

Q: May I see your thumb? How did you cut it?
A: With a knife

Dark Crystal

The film takes place on Thra, a planet with three suns; the Great Sun, the Rose Sun, and the Dying Sun. Many creatures and races inhabit the planet, but the dominant race is the urSkeks, who came from another world and are the guardians of the Crystal of Truth. The Crystal harnesses the forces of nature, especially the light of the three suns, for the benefit of all on Thra.

One thousand years before the beginning of the movie, during the Great Conjunction of the three suns, the urSkeks cracked the Crystal of Truth, and split into two races; the hunchbacked, gentle beings known as urRu or "Mystics" and the vulture-like tyrants known as Skeksis. In that moment the Crystal became the Dark Crystal. The Skeksis drove the urRu from the castle where the cracked crystal resided, then instituted a reign of terror over their world. Their wrath was particularly directed toward the elf-like Gelflings, due to a prophecy that promised the restoration of the crystal and the end of the Skeksis' power.

The Skeksis are a fictional species which act as the main villains in the 1982 fantasy film The Dark Crystal, its companion book The World of The Dark Crystal and the TokyoPop prequel Legends of the Dark Crystal. The word "Skeksis" serves as both singular and plural form for this species, with the singular being pronounced /skɛk.sɪs/[1] and the plural pronounced /skɛk.siz/[1]. They are described by concept artist Brian Froud as, "... part reptile, part predatory bird, part dragon." In the film, the Skeksis are represented by puppets engineered under the direction of Jim Henson. Jim Henson said that in the development of the Skeksis, the creators drew inspiration from the Seven Deadly Sins.

The Ritual Master skekZok
An arrogant high priest, skekZok fancied himself as skekSo's closest advisor, and sought to control the other skeksis through false prophecies and apparitions, only to bitterly discover they distrusted his divinations and practised their own.[7] skekZok spearheads the various rituals the Skeksis practice such as the "Ceremony of the Sun", and sees their laws as absolute, thus he is the most eager to kill off the Gelfing race quickly. Though a contender of the throne after skekSo's death, skekZok sides himself with skekUng, who becomes the next emperor. Though he assists in the search for the surviving gelflings with his crystal bats, he is nonetheless distrusted and feared by skekUng.[5] When skekSil arrived with Kira, he was annoyed at skekUng's commands to drain Kira of essence before actually killing her. Ironically, it was skekZok's killing of Kira that marked the Skeksis' downfall.

olds and ancients / dark and light / alignment of the stars etc
the skeksis in the Dark Crystal were almost canibalistic in the food things on their table and wanted sacrifices. Made in 1982, starting the children off young with these kinds of films, when used in the value system of 'Handlers' The damage is huge.

[brown velvet]

Pi / pie

Originally Posted by brown velvet

Phi







Euler's totient function



I found this photo with these two letters "Φ + Δ" wasn't expecting Cobaine to turn up, honestly!









The Four Pi Movement




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phi delta beta
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Sisters Together Sisters Forever





this image is amazing! BE AWARE. And triggery.


brown.

brown.

[emerald]

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/deftones-b...ar-crash/15007

It happened to TRAVIS BARKER a month ago and now to him, in the eve of elections...

[brown velvet]

Just found this if anyone wants to have a look
the symbols are very interesting, or I thought they were anyways!


Necronomicon Book of Spells


brown.

[hunkahunka]

Great posts, Brown.
You were mentioning in a previous post how so much of the Grateful Dead's albums/logos/symbols reflected mind control themes.

The CIA's widespread LSD testing led to a drug culture in America. Once a subject had tried acid, he usually would want to trip again sometime later. In huge universities and hospitals, the CIA and the Army carried out large scale testing programs. The CIA placed posters on the campuses advertising that you would be paid for participating in a drug study and they usually had not only enough students who wanted to try LSD (or trip again), but a long waiting list as well.Many of the acid spokesmen were turned on CIA connected programs. Three of these men first tripped in programs at Stanford University: Ken Kesy (leader of the Pranksters), Allen Ginsberg (the beat poet), and Robert Hunter (lyricist for the Grateful Dead). Hunter later recommended LSD to the rest of the band. Various writers, actors, musicians and film makers, including Jack Nicholson, also first tried acid in government programs. Professor Timothy Leary began a psilcybin research project at Harvard after he returned from his first psychedelic experience in Mexico. Leary's research was under the approval of Dr. Harry Murray, who was in charge of the Personality Assessment part of the OSS during W.W.II. There are also indications that Leary received CIA-channeled money through various government agencies.

interesting that Ken Kesey and Allen Ginsberg are both linked to Gus Van Sant (and therefore Kurt Cobain) . Van Sant is now putting the finishing touches on a movie about Ken Kesey (Electric Koolaid Acid Test) and did a number of past projects involving the work of the William Burroughs/Allen Ginsberg team.

complete article is here:

Mind Control, LSD, the CIA and the American People
What the Government Does Not Want You to Know
by Andy Smith
1998-11-23




Mind control is not only possible, but has been done before and is still continuing on unsuspecting people all over the United States of America. Through various behavior modifying techniques, including hypnosis and powerful drugs, the ancient desire to control people with magical potions had come alive again in the 1940's. The US government, by ignoring fundamental ethical codes throughout their programs aimed at controlling human behavior, rival the Nazis in cruel and unusual research.

Since World War II, the United States government, mainly the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), has secretly and, at times, inhumanely, sought a way to control human behavior. The CIA mind control programs were not only a continuation of the Office of Strategic Services' (OSS, America's W.W.II intelligence agency) quest for a truth drug, but also the beginnings of a drug culture in America.

As far as we can tell by documented evidence, modern day mind control started in Nazi Germany, was continued by the US military, then the CIA sunk into it. The CIA expanded mind control projects more than ever before, testing on thousands of subjects all over the country, thus violating a basic principle of the CIA.

During W.W.II in Nazi Germany, doctors under the S.S. and the Gestapo were testing mescaline on prisoners at Dachau to try and bring unwilling people under their control and eliminate their will. Mescaline caused some people to tell their innermost secrets, but even when combined with hypnosis, the drug never gained the Nazi's confidence as a mind control drug.

After the war, the Nuremberg trials tried and convicted a small number of those responsible for the Nazi "medical" horrors. Among the Nuremberg tribunal was a Dr. Ewen Cameron, who will be discussed later. Even before the verdicts were in at Nuremberg, US investigating teams were going through the records of the experiments conducted at Dachau for information that could be used by the military. Military authorities sent the records back home, which included documents on Nazi mescaline and hypnosis mind control experiments. None of the Nazi mind control research has been made available to the public.

At the same time Nazi "doctors" at Dachau were experimenting on Jews and other people deemed inferior, OSS Director Donovan created a truth drug committee. The committee's goal was to find or create a drug capable of altering and controlling human behavior and perception, mainly a substance that would make the subject spill his secrets when questioned- a "truth drug".

The committee, which included federal narcotics agent George White, tried many different drugs, including scopolamine, peyote, barbiturates, mescaline and THC, or marijuana. Marijuana was chosen as the most likely candidate for a truth drug and the committee, in cooperation with the Manhattan Project tested various forms of the drug. They tried liquid and vapor forms before finding out that the best way to deliver the drug was via the cigarette, a secret that had been known for years by jazz musicians and other users. The OSS scientists made a potent extract of marijuana which was clear, odorless and tasteless. It was named TD, or Truth Drug, and injected into normal cigarettes with a needle.

On May 27, 1943, the first field test of marijuana-laced cigarettes was done on August Del Gracio, a New York gangster. OSS documents state that after smoking the mix of tobacco and marijuana, Gracio was in a "state of irresponsibility, causing the subject [Gracio] to be loquacious and free in his impartation of information" (marks1.htm). The gangster gave George White, the Federal agent, more information than he had before, and the operation was considered a success. Marijuana was subsequently tested on 15-18 suspected Communists in the US Army. All the men who smoked the drug gave the feds more information than they had before. Marijuana did loosen the tongue, but it didn't control the mind, so the search continued.

The Army justified it's use of drugs, including LSD, for counterintelligence and defense uses. In 1958 in Edgewood Arsenal, 95 "volunteers" were given LSD. Some were unaware that they had been drugged and thought they were going insane, others were polygraphed to see if they could lie better on acid, and others were given LSD and placed in isolation chambers. STP (Serenity, Tranquillity and Peace) was another drug tested at Edgewood and it put the user on an intense three day trip. The Army tested it for use as an incapacitating agent. PCP was tested as well as hundreds of other different drugs, many of which had never been tested on humans before.

American volunteers for the tests signed a consent form which basically said that they (the subjects) could end the experiment whenever they wanted to, but only if the supervising physician agreed. The volunteers were not told exactly what they were signing up for, nor the risks of LSD. The consent form only informed that "transitory discomfort may occur" (covert 9). So this program was "volunteer" in name only. The subjects also had to agree that they would not tell anyone (even a doctor) what really happened, making it impossible for medical assistance that could be needed after the testing. The Army tested LSD on approximately 1500 military personnel in the mid-60's, including many men who took their first trip when acid was given to unwitting GI's at mess parties.

Quinuclidinyl benzilate, or BZ, is a powerful hallucinogen whose effects generally last about three days-but have been known to last as long as six weeks. It's symptoms are similar to LSD, but much stronger. Edgewood Arsenal conducted BZ studies from 1959-1975. Many of the estimated 2800 soldiers exposed to BZ said they were never the same afterwards. BZ did not seem to be the perfect mind control drug, but it did become the Army's standard incapacitating agent.

BZ weapons, such as BZ in bullets, grenades, bombs, and missile warheads were then created by the Army. Allegedly, BZ was tested at least 5 times in Vietnam between 1968 and 1970. One of the occasions was Operation White Wing, where grenades containing BZ were dropped on 500 Viet Congs, only 100 were said to have escaped alive.

The Army stored, and maybe still has, at least 50 tons of BZ, enough to trip out everyone in the world. Army documents even suggest that there is a contingency plan to use BZ as a domestic civilian riot control method.

The Military then had two more projects, THIRD CHANCE and DERBY HAT, which involved giving drugs to unwitting subjects. These two projects involved giving EA-1729 (the Army's name for LSD) to unwitting subjects in the Far East and Europe.

Project THIRD CHANCE was conducted in 1961 in Europe. Ten unwitting subjects were given LSD and interrogated. These interrogations were only somewhat successful.

DERBY HAT was a project conducted in 1962 in the Far East, seven Asians were given LSD and interrogated. According to the Select Committee on Intelligence report, the US Army wanted to "evaluate any different effects the drug might have on Orientals" (covert 3).

In these projects, the interrogators would sometimes threaten to extend the state of the tripping subjects indefinitely, or to the point of insanity if the subjects would not talk. This method probably worked wonderfully, since if someone is tripping and they do not know what is causing their temporary insanity, they would do almost anything to stop it, since they have no idea how long it lasts or even if it ever stops. According to released documents, the Army ended unwitting drug testing projects in September of 1963

The Navy also attempted to find a truth drug in project CHATTER. This Navy program lasted from 1947 to 1953. It tested mescaline as a truth drug, but mescaline failed and the project was canceled.

The Navy also meddled in the behavioral modification (BeMod) area creating hardened assassins. Lt. Commander Thomas Narut of the US Naval Hospital said that recruits in Naples, Florida underwent Clockwork Orange style BeMod sessions. Martin Cannon, an independent researcher, reports that "Trainees would be strapped into chairs with their eyelids clamped open while watching films of industrial accidents and African circumcision ceremonies" (Cannon 20). Unlike the main character in A Clockwork Orange, who learned repulsion at the sight of violence, the Navy soldiers eventually accepted and enjoyed bloodshed. The graduates of this program were assassins to be placed throughout the world.

The Navy has not made any more of it's BeMod or mind control research public and this has led some to believe the Navy still maybe conducting experiments. This is partly due to the Navy's seeming interest and involvement in UFOs, which have been connected with mind control in many ways.

The CIA barged into the mind control research field shortly after its creation and has ever since been involved in one way or another in mind control. The Agency began its research with experiments in hypnosis.

Hypnosis, generally speaking, can not make someone do something that they normally would not do. However, if you can change their beliefs in a situation while they are hypnotized, you can get the subject to murder or do almost anything else. Hypnosis does not work on everyone-only about 20% of people make good enough subjects to be placed in a deep trance, where the hypnotist has the most control of their mind.

The first CIA hypnosis experiments was under project BLUEBIRD. It began in April of 1950 and tried to discover if hypnosis could allow a subject to beat a lie detector. They also mixed depressants and stimulants with polygraphs and had varying degrees of successful results.

Between Sept. 1, 1953, and June 1, 1954, the CIA conducted experiments with the goal of "recall of hypnotically acquired information by very specific signals" (MKULTRA hypnosis). This was to help in the creation of an agent who could be told sensitive information under hypnosis and then deliver the information to another party when cued to do so. In this case, the agent could be tortured or even killed and the enemy would never get the information out of the agent because he truly does not know that he knows. This kind of agent had definite uses in covert operations.

Other projects tried to have hypnotized subjects kill someone. Morse Allen, a CIA agent, proved in a series of experiments using CIA secretaries that hypnotized people could be forced into doing acts that could later be used to blackmail them.

There has been much discussion over the question of whether or not a programmed assassin could be created. A programmed assassin would be programmed to kill someone by means of a very specific cue. This person would not remember killing the victim and if he did, he would have no idea why he did it. The facts are that programmed assassins can be created and have been created in experiments.

In another one of Allen's experiments, he hypnotized one secretary and basically told her to shoot another hypnotized secretary, which the first girl subsequently did. the gun was unloaded, but only Allen knew it. After the trance was removed, the "killer' had no memory of the event and denied she would ever shoot anyone.

Murder is not the only anti-social act that people can be forced to do with the use of hypnosis and post hypnotic suggestions. (Post hypnotic suggestion, or PHS, is a hypnotically implanted suggestion that is cued by a specific word, sound, etc., that would trigger the programmed act.) When drugs are added, PHS is much easier and the right subject could be programmed to do anything.

The Palle Hardrup affair of 1951 is one example. In Denmark, Palle Hardrup robbed a bank and killed a guard in the process. In court, Hardrup claimed that his hypnotist, Bjorn Nielsen instructed him to do so. Nielsen admitted to have engineered Hardrup to commit the anti-social crime as a test of his hypnotic abilities.

Subjects who have been hypnotized to do something out of the ordinary usually will rationalize their actions as demonstrated by Sirhan Sirhan (RFK's assassin). While in prison, Sirhan was hypnotized and told to climb the bars of his cage like a monkey. Sirhan did and after the trance was removed, he was shown video of his actions. Sirhan insisted that he wanted the exercise and that he acted like a monkey of his own free will. The question must be asked if an assassin would insist he wanted to kill someone if he was questioned about it, even if he was only carrying out programmed actions.

In 1960, an MKULTRA program (the main CIA mind control program that will later be discussed in detail) was created that had 3 goals: 1) to quickly hypnotize an unwitting subject; 2) to create a lasting amnesia; and 3) to implant a lasting PHS. No information has been released on this project that could, in theory, turn an unwitting person into an assassin, except one heavily censored paper on rapid induction of hypnosis.

John Gittinger, an MKULTRA veteran, said that rapid induction of hypnosis on unwitting subjects worked "fantastically" on some people, and not at all on others. People can even be hypnotized with a common television or radio.

In case the subject ever remembered being hypnotized and programmed, the "doctors" would install false memories to cover up what really happened. This way, even if the subject began to remember things related to his programming, he would remember it incorrectly. The method of retrieving covered or forgotten, painful, traumatizing memories is called regression therapy. Regression therapy has brought forth many forgotten abuses, mind control experiments and other troubling experiences.

In 1992, the False Memory Syndrome Foundation began. Its members believe that regression therapy is unreliable and that the repressed memories brought forth out by it are lies implanted by the discovering psychologist. It would not be so suspicious if two of the board of advisors were not Louis West and Martin Orne, both MKULTRA veterans. This is a good example of CIA misinformation. Some of the founding members were responsible for what the FMS was so strongly fighting against.

In mid 1953, the CIA began the most notorious mind control project yet- MKULTRA. The "MK" allegedly stood for "Mind Kontrol". It was in this project that LSD was first tested on a wide scale.

The Soviets and the Chinese has massive re-education and brainwashing programs, but they used no drugs or any sort of electrical ray or machine. The Communist interrogations usually consisted of isolation, humiliation, and discomfort until the subject was ready to be re-educated or confess to an alleged crime. As the CIA learned of such techniques, they thought the US should be far ahead of the Communists in the mind control arena-and so began project MKULTRA. The CIA claimed that these programs were necessary to catch up with the Communists in their brain-washing techniques. Ten years later however, CIA deputy director Richard Helms admitted that the Soviet mind control research was years behind the American efforts. So the brainwashing scare was just a propaganda effort by the CIA so they could start their mind control research.

MKULTRA was a huge umbrella which covered about 150 subprojects. Some of the earlier goals of the project were to develop: substances that would make foreign leaders and politicians trip out during their public appearances thus discrediting and embarrassing themselves, chemicals and physical methods to produce amnesia, and substances that would lower the ambition and working efficiency in men (high and mighty 1).

MKULTRA was conducted all over the world in hundreds of places in secrecy. A declassified CIA document explains why the programs were done secretly: "The knowledge that the Agency is engaging in unethical and illicit activities would have serious repercussions in political and diplomatic circles..." (xviii Acid Dreams).

Many of the experiments under MKULTRA involved administration of LSD to subjects. Before they tested LSD on other subjects, MKULTRA men took acid themselves. They tripped in the office while observing, questioning and analyzing each other. They agreed to give it to each other unwittingly, such as in someone's coffee, and then observe the man as he tripped out. Dr. Harris Isbell conducted LSD research on inmates at the Lexington Federal drug hospital. Some of his subjects were kept on LSD for 77 days straight. In exchange for volunteering for Isbell's experiments, inmates received heroin. They could withdraw drugs from their "bank accounts" at any time, and the more you volunteered, the more credits went into your account.

Divine mushrooms and psilocybin (the active compound in psychedelic mushrooms) were tested under Dr. Isbell and in MKULTRA, subproject 58.

Dr. Ewen Cameron conducted some of the most horrific experiments funded by the CIA. Cameron tested 53 patients at Allan Memorial Institute in Canada. Treatment started with "sleep therapy", where subjects were knocked out for months, then he would "depattern" them, which included massive electroshock and LSD dosage. Depatterning was supposed to wipe out past behavior patterns so new patterns could be installed. Finally, Cameron put the subjects through "psychic driving", where the patients would be heavily drugged and confined to "sleep rooms". In the sleep rooms, speakers would be placed under the subject's pillow, and a tape recorded message would play over and over again for 16 to 24 hours a day. Some subjects heard the same message 250,000 times. This treatment did not work, it only succeeded in messing up several of the patients for the rest of their lives, and his theory was discredited.

Not only was LSD tested on volunteers who knew that drugs would be involved in the experiment, but it was also given to people who had no idea they had been drugged and people who had volunteered for experiments, but did not know the ordeal would involve LSD. Some scientists believed that if the subject knew that he would receive LSD, it would ruin the experiment, so unwitting subjects were more favorable to use, since their reactions would be more genuine. However, there was a problem over how to find subjects to perform unwitting testing on. After much thought, Dr. Sidney Gottlieb and the MKULTRA crew came to the conclusion that the best test subjects would be "the borderline underworld". These people- prostitutes, drug addicts and other small time criminals- would be powerless to extract revenge or cry to the government if they ever found out what the CIA did to them.

CIA officials gave $375,000 in secret funds to Georgetown University Hospital to help construct a new research building. In return, the Agency would receive one-sixth of the beds and total space for a hospital safehouse. According to a CIA document, this situation would give the CIA a good source of "human patients and volunteers for experimental use" (marks12.htm).

George White, an agent for the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, was chosen to head MKULTRA subproject #3, which was one of the first programs to test LSD on unwitting subjects. The subproject was carried out in two adjacent apartments in Greenwich Village, New York. This pair of apartments was called a "safehouse", and experimentation began here in 1953.

In the first few months of the safehouse, White tested LSD knockout drugs and THC (the essence of marijuana). He lured the victims to the safehouse, slipped the drugs in foods, drinks and cigarettes, then tried to get his subjects to reveal certain information.

White left the Greenwich safehouse, which continued unwitting drug testing, and moved to San Francisco in early 1955. He then opened a new safehouse in Telegraph Hill in San Francisco. This safehouse specialized in prostitutes. TSS officials were trying to discover how they could apply sex to spying. As one TSS official said of the study; "How do you take a woman who is willing to use her body to get money out of a guy to get things which are much more important, like state secrets" (marks6.htm).

The prostitutes who cooperated in these experiments were rewarded with "chits", or favors. When the girls got arrested, they could use their chits to get out of jail.

TSS officials found that the best time to seek sensitive information from the subjects was the postsexual period, not at the time of near orgasm as was originally thought. The girl would boost his ego by staying with him for a few hours and gently lead him into talking about business matters or whatever it was that she was assigned to find out.

In 1963, during a routine inspection, the Agency's Inspector General discovered the safehouses and wanted them shut down. Richard Helms, who headed the Clandestine Services, lied to the General to keep unwitting testing alive. Helms said that the Soviets had ways of mind control and the US had to keep up. Helms told the Warren Commission, about the same time, the truth however, that there was no evidence to suggest that the Soviets were anywhere near where the CIA was. Helms lies kept the safehouses operating, but not for much longer. Two years after they were discovered, the safehouses began closing down- the San Francisco safehouse closed in 1965 and one year later the one in New York was shut down.

Unwitting testing was not only done on adults, but also on children. Dr. Martin Orne, a founding member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, conducted CIA funded mind control experiments on children in the 1950's. Two former patients of CIA-connected studies testified before the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments. The two women say the experiment sessions occurred when they were about eight years old and involved electroshock, hypnosis, shots (drugs), sexual abuse and intelligence tradecraft training.

Dr. Sidney Gottleib, under the alias of "Mr. Sheiber", trained children, in 1959 at Deer Creek camp in Maryland, to be child prostitutes for sexual blackmail operations. Claudia Mullens testified at the Advisory Committee hearing about the Deer Creek experiments. Mullens said she was seven years old and was "taught different ways to please men and at the same time ask questions to get them to talk about themselves. Then we had to recall everything we learned about them..." (Virtual 150, 151).

Richard Helms implied that the CIA had tinkered with child mind control, but no one pushed into the matter. He said that "cybernetics can be used in molding of a child's character...the amassing of experience, [and] the establishment of social behavior patterns..." (Virtual 168).

More evidence of child mind control came to light in 1995 during the President's Advisory Committee on Radiation Experiments. Valerie Wolf, a New Orleans psychologist, testified that "most of these patients [children apparently influenced by certain kinds of electronic stimulation of varying frequencies] responded to certain sounds. clickers, metronomes, or just clicking the tongue or hand clapping. Patients would vacillate from calm to robotically asking, 'Who do you want me to kill?'''. (Virtual 150, 151). The children were triggered to try to commit suicide, attack the therapist, or leave the office with the intent to kill somebody. The Advisory Committee requested the records of human radiation experiments from the CIA, but in October 1995, its final report showed dissatisfaction with the CIA's cooperation and recommended that the CIA provide more information than it did.

To rob a child of his or her innocence by making them perform sexual acts, altering their behavior by electronic means or any of the other BeMod tactics used by the CIA is inexcusable and disheartening.

Another major concern for TSS officials was a disposal problem with the victims of mind control research projects. At first the disposal problem was solved by committing subjects to insane asylums- even some that were mentally sound before the experiment. Some were killed in the experiment and others received icepick lobotomies, which removed or permanently destroyed brain tissue creating confusion and amnesia. Instead of institutionalizing them, etc., they began to erase the memory via hypnosis, drugs and implants. Then in order to solve the problem of memory leaks and repressed memories, false stories, or screen memories were poured in.

A couple of subjects disposed of themselves. Dr. Frank Olson was a Department of the Army employee who was unwittingly given LSD. He went into deep depression and the night before he was to enter a sanitarium, he killed himself by jumping out of the tenth floor window of a hotel. Another subject was killed in an experiment. Harold Blauer, a tennis professional, received an injection of MDA (methyl di-amphetamine) and died a few hours later. The two listed above are surely not the only subjects that died in or from drug experiments. The CIA used people who would not be missed, like the homeless, for the more dangerous research, that way if they died-no big deal. The only reason we know of these two deaths are because they were either famous or their death was a public event, like Olson's suicide

When MKULTRA officially ended in 1963, CIA researchers had, according to their public statements, found no sure way to brainwash people. They could create "vegetables", but these people could have no operational use. The CIA research spanned across at least 80 institutions, including 44 universities and colleges, 15 private research facilities and companies, 12 hospitals or clinics and 3 penal institutions. The estimated cost of these projects was $10 million of taxpayer's dollars.

MKULTRA really did not end, it just became MKSEARCH. Only seven of the 149 subprojects were carried over into MKSEARCH, all the other subprojects were either canceled or moved back to the regular CIA projects. The first subproject was two more years of sex and unwitting drug testing in the safehouses by George White. The second was the production of biological weapons on a large scale. The third was custom-made chemical weapons for attacks by the CIA. The fourth subproject was, as a CIA document says, "clinical testing of behavioral control methods" (marks12.htm) on inmates at the Cal. Medical Facility at Vacaville. Another was collecting data on the creation, use and effects of drugs. The sixth subproject was Dr. Maitland Baldwin's strange lobotomy experiments involving sensory deprivation, radio energy waves, etc. In one experiment, Baldwin cut off the head of one monkey and tried to transplant it on the neck of another decapitated monkey. The last was Dr. Charles Geschickter's experiments, which included knocking out monkeys with radar waves. The downfall of knocking subjects out with radar waves was that it can fry important parts of the brain. MKSEARCH went on until June of 1972 when Gottlieb ended the program.

The CIA's mind control programs went unnoticed by the public and most of the federal government until Nelson Rockefeller headed a commission to investigate CIA abuses. Among the long list of abuses mentioned was Frank Olson's death. It interested many people how an unnamed Army employee had jumped out a hotel window to his death after CIA men had given him LSD without his knowledge. This interest led to hearings on the CIA's unethical research.

In 1977, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and Senator Edward Kennedy's Subcommittee on Health and Scientific Research held one joint hearing on behavior control and drug experimentation. The Select Committee later dropped out of the proceedings, but the Subcommittee went ahead. The Kennedy hearings did not add much to what was already known, it did not deal with inconsistent testimonies and did not try to find out what the CIA learned from "turning on" thousands of people, destroying the lives of others and other damage they did to the American people. Most doctors could not perform mind control experiments on their own, but by doing the same experiments under the CIA, he had protection from the law, secrecy and pride in himself for serving his country.

One hindrance to finding the whole truth was that there were very few documents that proved these experiments actually happened. Sid Gottlieb ordered that virtually no records of the testing be kept. In 1973, when Gottlieb retired from the CIA, he and Richard Helms destroyed what they thought were the last existing documents on the program. In his testimony, Gottlieb said the purpose of MKULTRA and related programs was to see if and how a person's behavior could be altered by covert means. He did not comment on the success of the programs however.

Testimonies were not in depth and some of those who testified agreed among themselves only to say just enough to satisfy the committee and no more. Dr. Gottlieb agreed to testify at the hearing only after receiving a grant of immunity from criminal prosecution. When unwitting LSD testing was brought up, neither Gottlieb nor any other MKULTRA veterans confessed to ever giving LSD to an unwitting subject, or even observing experiments like that- except in the case of Frank Olson. They rested all the blame for the unwitting testing on George White, who conveniently enough, is dead and can not defend himself. Throughout the hearings on MKULTRA, Agency personnel told stories of the mistakes in experiments, many of them humorous. This kind of clumsiness was an effective public relations for the CIA, deflecting serious investigation from drug-related misdeeds. We will probably never hear the entire truth on the government's attempts at mind control, and maybe we would not want to. As one MKULTRA veteran said to John Marks, declining to be interviewed: "Lots of things are not fit for the public. This has nothing to do with democracy. It has to do with common sense" (marks12.htm).

An accidental product of MKULTRA and related programs was the "crazies" that were roaming all over the country. Dr. Hackney, a psychiatrist who did BeMod experiments for the CIA around 1970-1975, describes when he began to figure out that these people perhaps really were not insane. Most of the patients' flashbacks involved the military in some way, they were in various rooms, and being tortured or taught things- like how to kill or something like that. After becoming more involved in the flashback issue, going to conventions with people from all over the world, it was apparent that the patients' "stories were all very consistent" (Hackney). Studies showed that these people were very conditioned and brainwashed when they were between 18 and 21, and it worked great, except that it tended to unravel when the victim was about forty. Repressed memory syndrome was offered as the answer, but the mainstream said these people were not brainwashed by the government and that their shrinks had convinced them they were brainwashed.

Hackney conducted experiments involving how much pain a subject could withstand and how they would condition under various pain. These experiments were done at the Veterans Administration Hospital in Minnesota on veterans that were homeless, or had no trace to anyone else. So they only used the throwaways of society. They were already considered crazy by society- so no one would listen to them if they complained about these BeMod experiments.

CIA mind control research damaged hundreds of people-some damage was evident at the time of experimentation while other damage took years to manifest. A number of subjects became sick for a few hours or days and some even required hospitalization. That is one reason why MKULTRA veterans have tried to hide their roles in experiments; fear from victims' lawsuits claiming damaged health. Even so, some victims have sued the government and received large sums of money for their damages.

James Thornwell, an unwitting subject of LSD testing in project THIRD CHANCE, sued the US government for $10 million in the late 1970's. In 1980, the US House of Representatives gave him a settlement of $650,000.

Nine of Dr. Cameron's former patients have also sued the US government for $1 million each. They said they were still suffering from the trauma they endured at Allan. These nine were all unwitting and willing subjects. The government appointed one lawyer to look into these nine claims. The commission concluded that the government bears no "legal or moral responsibilities" for the experiments. The commission suggested a $100,000 payment to each survivor, not because the government was guilty of doing wrong, but, according to its statement, a way of showing "a collective sense of accountability for events that took place in good faith with ill effect" (Virtual 28). It seems hard to believe that the government had good faith in these experiments not causing permanent brain damage, when in fact, some of the experiments were aimed at doing so.

Besides suing the government for damages, people have also sued the government through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA). In 1984, two men filed suit under the FOIA requesting the names of private researchers who did work for the CIA in connection with MKULTRA and the institutions where it took place. The district court ordered about half of the researchers' and institutions' names to be released, while the other half were still held because they had either been promised confidentiality by the CIA, or they were working in other CIA activities apart from MKULTRA (Petitioners 1). These other activities could have been MKSEARCH or any other BeMod program, including Army projects.

Some people have called the JFK assassination an extension of mind control experimentation and they back up their conspiracy with some interesting facts. Dr. Louis West, well known for his work in MKULTRA with LSD experiments, psychiatrically treated Jack Ruby, Oswald's assassin. West did not live or practice in Dallas, but he was assigned to the Ruby case. West, in 1964, concluded that Ruby was crazy, since Ruby would not admit to being insane. Ruby was then treated for mental disorders, until a different doctor put him on "happy pills". The pills did not cheer him up and two years later Ruby died in prison of cancer. Those who believe this was part of the government cover-up point to the fact that one of MKULTRA's goals was to create a substance that would cause cancer, an ideal way to kill someone who is in the public eye, since more direct approaches are too noticeable.

The CIA's widespread LSD testing led to a drug culture in America. Once a subject had tried acid, he usually would want to trip again sometime later. In huge universities and hospitals, the CIA and the Army carried out large scale testing programs. The CIA placed posters on the campuses advertising that you would be paid for participating in a drug study and they usually had not only enough students who wanted to try LSD (or trip again), but a long waiting list as well. Once a student tried acid, he would usually trip at least a couple more times, and of course he could not buy it from the doctors using it for testing, so he would turn to the up and coming acid dealer. Only years later did the truth come out that some of the acid dealers were actually CIA-connected men.

Hundreds of scientists, health professionals and students would turn on after hearing lectures on LSD. Harold Abranson, a CIA contractor, would speak favorably of acid at conferences and seminars, after which many of the audience would wind up trying LSD. If these people liked the experience, they would tell their friends, who would tell their friends and so on.

Some of the first trips for fun were started when Army soldiers stole LSD from the laboratories at Edgewood and used it for recreational purposes.

Ronald Stark was a CIA agent from 1960 on who was jailed for selling marijuana, morphine and cocaine. Stark made 50 million hits of LSD and sold them on the black-market in the late 60's and early 70's. He was later released from prison after a judge learned of Strak's true identity. Apparently, CIA agents can break the law and spread drugs around without any serious repercussions. Just Stark's story alone proves the CIA helped boost the drug culture of the 60's significantly and intentionally-but that is not all they did. The CIA helped underground chemists set up acid laboratories in the San Francisco Bay Area in 1967 to "monitor" events in the Haight-Ashbury district. Who would monitor these events? None other then Dr. Louis West, who rented a house in Ashbury, for observation purposes.

Many of the acid spokesmen were turned on CIA connected programs. Three of these men first tripped in programs at Stanford University: Ken Kesy (leader of the Pranksters), Allen Ginsberg (the beat poet), and Robert Hunter (lyricist for the Grateful Dead). Hunter later recommended LSD to the rest of the band. Various writers, actors, musicians and film makers, including Jack Nicholson, also first tried acid in government programs. Professor Timothy Leary began a psilcybin research project at Harvard after he returned from his first psychedelic experience in Mexico. Leary's research was under the approval of Dr. Harry Murray, who was in charge of the Personality Assessment part of the OSS during W.W.II. There are also indications that Leary received CIA-channeled money through various government agencies.

John Marks gives the CIA some leniency when he says "No one at the Agency apparently foresaw that young Americans would voluntarily take the drug [LSD]-whether for consciousness expansion or recreational purposes. It would become supreme irony that the CIA's enormous search for weapons among drugs -fueled by the hope that spies could...control life with genius and machines -would wind up helping to create the wandering, uncontrollable minds of the counterculture". (marks7.htm) But Marks neglects Stark's 50 million hits of LSD he sold, and the fact that the CIA has been involved in selling drugs to the American people numerous other times. CIA personnel in southeast Asia brought and sold heroin to the US. For eight years, heroin was smuggled inside the returning corpses of American military men who died in Vietnam- then sold to major city urban ghettos. Another example of CIA drug dealing was the Iran-contra scandal, where drugs were sold directly and indirectly by the CIA to inner cities.

Over the course of the government's testing, thousands of people were given drugs, many of whom tried drugs again, which were available from different non-governmental sources. In 1967, the Journal of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences reported that "techniques for controlling behavior and modifying personality will grow more efficient by the year 2000. Thousands of experts at conditioning are now trying out their behavior-changing techniques on tens of thousands of people [my emphasis]- in classrooms, prisons, mental hospitals, day-care centers [my emphasis], factories, [and] nursing homes...". (Virtual 109) We will probably never know exactly how many people the government's BeMod programs damaged or turned on to LSD and other drugs, but without a doubt the number is at least in the thousands. If these thousands each turned on one or two friends to drugs, then we have in the tens of thousand range of acid heads, and thus a counterculture movement is born.

One can not lay all the blame for the drug culture at the CIA's feet. Doing so would ignore the times of the rebellion, mistrust and confusion. While the CIA may not have been solely responsible for the counterculture, they certainly gave it a much needed boost and support.

Almost all of the subjects on mind control research focus on things done 20-40 years ago- as if the CIA abandoned mind control because a few secrets came out in various Congressional testimonies. The CIA and other government branches are still very interested in electromagnetic brain manipulation. There is a thirty year gap between declassified research and the most advanced technology known and available to the American government.

There are currently numerous associations and groups of people who claim that the government is not only continuing electronic mind control, but conducting it on them and the government is ignoring their pleas to stop. Within these groups of "victims" it is hard to distinguish between who is lying and who is genuinely telling the truth. The reason for this is that the purpose of some mind control research was to induce insanity. Anyone who claims to be a victim is saying that their brain and memory has been tampered with, and therefore may not be reliable in the first place. A fine example of a catch-22.

Besides people's claims, there is solid proof on continuing mind control research. In 1996, Congress earmarked $37.2 million to investigate (which would include experiments on human subjects) "nonlethal technologies". (MK and secret state 3) Nonlethal technology is a term for mind control by means of drugs, micro and radio waves and other electronic means of altering the brain from a distance.

President Clinton, in a memorandum dated March 27, 1997, said the government is allowing classified radiation experiments and research involving humans as long as the government agency follows a set of guidelines that includes certain exemptions. This kind of public statement clearly indicates that classified mind control research is still going on.

There is a law in effect that allows open air testing of biological and chemical agents on civilians as long as public officials are notified at least 30 days prior to the testing. Biological agents would include diseases and infections, while chemical agents would include BZ, LSD and other behavior changing chemicals.

Also there are shadows of suspicion that government mind control played a role in the Oklahoma City bombing. Timothy McVeigh, the alleged mad bomber, was once assigned to a Pentagon contractor that conducts classified research in electronic warfare. McVeigh complained that he had been implanted with a microchip by federal agents. Also, during the week of the Oklahoma City bombing, a low-frequency hum was heard by many across the country. Another interesting fact connecting the Oklahoma City bombing to mind control is the involvement of Dr. Louis West. He led the psychological trauma team to treat victims' families and survivors of the explosion.

The government's mind control research created far more problems than it solved. Not only is the government having to use millions of tax dollars to pay survivors of their unethical research, but the federal government is spending billions of dollars fighting a drug problem that it helped create. Anyone with an unbiased mind can see that America will never win the war on drugs as long as our government continues to supply our country with drugs and lies about doing so.

Mind control is swiftly becoming one of the big conspiracies of the day, and hopefully because of this, more information will be released and discovered on this topic. The general public does not believe that mind control is possible, but the frightening truth is that mind control is possible, has been done before, and is still continuing on unwitting subjects. Nowadays, a person could be experimented on without their permission or knowledge and they may not even realize they are being controlled.

Mind control is no longer confined only to hypnosis and drugs, but in propaganda and electronic means. The best way to avoid and recognize mind control is to be informed about past, present and future research. Unfortunately, our government is not eager to release this sort of information, and until they do, we will never know the entire truth of the Army's, the Navy's and the CIA's history of unethical mind control. In my opinion, I think Dr. Sidney Gottlieb spoke the best summary of government mind control when he said, "The bottom line on this whole business has not yet been written."




Grateful dead bear (no fingers/hands/helpless)




Dog Moon (w Robert Hunter; a Timothy Truman). [From DC Comics: Grateful Dead lyricist Robert Hunter and artist Timothy Truman (JONAH HEX: TWO GUN MOJO, RIDERS OF THE WORM AND SUCH) join forces to execute haunting work of staggering emotional power and artistic excellence in DOG MOON, a Prestige Format VERTIGO one-shot. DOG MOON is at once a horror story, a love story and a lyrical epic — the account of a truck driver who, like the mythic Charon on the river Styx, transports the "just dead" to the place awaiting them. On one such run, the trucker spots a dead woman named Tess and falls inexplicably in love with her. Tormented by his sadistic friend Red Jack, menaced by vicious winged creatures, witness to the Blind Sea disgorging a legion of dead souls upon the Beach of Bones, the trucker narrates his strange ordeal with an eerie yet eloquent voice — the same one that helped make the Grateful Dead one of the most hypnotic and enduring rock bands in history. Perfectly mated to Truman's haunting painted visuals and the lettering of SANDMAN calligrapher Todd Klein, DOG MOON is a startling, exquisite work as moving as it is disturbing.]

[amethyst]

Sorry, posted in wrong thread.....

[sunya]

Originally Posted by ashur

Why is sunya posting porn in this thread? That is what you call Inappropriate.

Sunya if I didn't astral project and observe this event. Then it must have being the most fantastic co-incidence I have ever known. Trillions to one. Since I never met cobain or knew anything about a green house where he lived, or who his girlfriend was etc.

Why should I have to justify it to you anyway. Who are you to put a percentage on it? Take it or leave it. I dont give a shit if you don't believe hey.

The 'porn' was imo interesting in light of the 'Alice' theme.

As to the astral projection, why so defensive? I'm very open to and interested by this type of thing, please tell me more. Was this a one-off? Do you still have these skills today? This is mind-blowing stuff - do the world a favour and present it so that even the skeptics will be convinced.

[hunkahunka]

check out this creepy documentary on Kurt Cobain (it turns out that Cobain's parents and grandparents both at times live in trailers , exactly like Mike's Dad in 'My Own Private Idaho'. There is also a part where they describe Cobain's longing to leave Aberdeen for Seattle, which they describe as 'Emerald City', and then play 'Somewhere Over the Rainbow')

[hunkahunka]

also see this short clip of anti-drug rocker Ted Nugent and his
notable disgust for Cobain's drug lifestyle:

In a 1992 article in "Vanity Fair", Love admitted to using heroin while (unknowingly) pregnant. Love claimed that "Vanity Fair" had misquoted her, but her admission created controversy for the couple. While Cobain and Love's romance had always been something of a media attraction, the couple found themselves hounded by tabloid reporters after the article was published, many wanting to know if Frances was addicted to drugs at birth. The Los Angeles County Department of Children's Services took the Cobains to court, claiming that the couple's drug usage made them unfit parents. Two-week-old Frances Bean Cobain was ordered by the judge to be taken from their custody and placed with Courtney's sister Jamie for several weeks, after which the couple obtained custody, but had to submit to urine tests and a regular visit from a social worker. After months of legal wrangling, the couple were eventually granted full custody of their daughter.

Interesting. Frances Cobain was named after failed mind control project Frances Farmer (Courtney Love was married in Farmer's dress while pregnant with her and high on heroin), and then the new born baby, at two weeks old, is taken by Department of Child Services and given to Love's half sister, Jamie Rodriguez for the first several weeks of its life.






Frances Bean Cobain

Kurt's Offspring Honors Him With Suicide Soiree

Mon., Sep. 15, 2008 4:02 AM PDT by Ted Casablanca

According to one of those darling little celeb board forums, Courtney Love reportedly spent more than $300k on her kid's, Frances Bean, sweet 16, but that ain't the most attention-grabbing part of the B-day bash:

Celebrated at Sunset Boulevard's House of Blues, the party was a "suicidal 16" (claims the copied and pasted invite that accompanies the original posting), with a cake frosted with the words "R.I.P. Childhood." Check out Francie B's MySpace to see the pics for yourself, if ya dare. There was even a contest awarding prizes for guests who dressed the "most dead."

In terms of class, this is right behind a Holocaust-themed Bar Mitzvah.

Guess if your dad dies when you're a baby, it's easy to get a fixation with death your whole life, maybe? We sure wouldn't know, thank gawd, so we ain't judging the F.B. on her backwards way of bonding with her pops or her obsession with mortality.

Gal's 16, anyway, and most teens go through a dark phase. Remember when Ashlee Simpson had brown hair? Exactly.

But Becky's concerned with mama Love allowing her offspring to throw a suicide-inspired death bash. She wonders, do ya really wanna be glamorizing self-destruction, Court, when your daughter's daddy offed himself? Even if Kurt were still alive and rockin' today, is there any excuse to encourage your kid to fetishize suicide? Whatever. I'm more bothered by the sweet 16-year-old being a spoiled princess playing dress-up, like any other Bev Hills spawn, budding goth goddess, my ass. Except her outfits are off the Hot Topic racks as opposed to Saks'.

Just take a look at Francie's B-day invite, more demanding and diva-ish than Mariah Carey's rider requirements, seriously. Check out a snippet, posted online by one of her party buddies, here:

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Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008
Time: 9:30pm - 11:30pm
City/Town: Los Angeles, CA

MY one and only sweet 16.....eerrrr actually it's my "suicidal 16".
At the house of blues, on September 2nd from 8:30 (TIME HAS CHANGED FORM 9:30 TO 8:30 KEEP THAT IN MIND) to 11:30 pm.

MINDLESS SELF INDULGENCE IS PLAYING
i suggest all who intend on coming go to itunes of youtube and look them. If you don't like them, then please don't come. all will be forced to jump around and dance. ALL.

YOU MUST BE WEARING BLACK OR RED OR YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED IN! this does not mean you have to wear something "nice" or "fancy" but there is a color code so do it!

Your bags will be searched at the door
not my rules, but it is the house of blues' rules
so don't be stupid and try to bring shit it
do it b4 you get into the party if you have to
and try to be stealth!

WE ARE ALSO HAVING A CONTEST
its the "who can look most dead contest"
if you dress up dead and are picked as the top 3 you will receive a: IPOD TOUCH and a $200 gift certificate to amoeba.
so get that face paint on, and try to make it as realistic as you can. there will only be 3 WINNERS.

i guess that's it!
hope to see you guys there!

xx franny

red and black

Love is a product of the hippie era. Her father, Hank Harrison, was a disciple of (and for a short time the manager of) The Grateful Dead, and her mother, Linda Carroll, a therapist best-known as the woman who in 1993 convinced radical fugitive Katherine Ann Power to surrender to authorities after more than two decades on the run. Yet, Love's childhood was not all flower power. Born Love Michelle Harrison, she was still a baby when her parents divorced. By court order, her father was not allowed to see her unsupervised until she became an adult. Love's mother remarried and changed her daughter's name to Courtney Michelle. Love bounced between New Zealand and the US, from guardian to guardian. By the time she was 13, Love, who had begun to shoplift, was sent to reform school. (fails to mention that at 12, Love auditioned for the Mickey Mouse Club and was rejected)

[b]Love's mother [Linda Carroll] /B] (any relation to Lewis Carroll?)

also this interesting link, an interview of Courtney Love's hippy mother, author of 'Her Mother's Daughter', which reveals that both Courtney Love's mother and grandmother were adopted orphans:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object...GVUQ31.DTL&o=1



So we have here four generations of women who were essentially orphaned at birth,

(Courtney herself conceived and raised by CIA hippy cults and Frances Bean having spent the first several weeks of her life adopted by her aunt, and then fatherless a year later)