Urgent!! We Can End The Energy Crisis Now!!!!

[chomofski]

I experimented with 'water fuel' for about two years but really never came up with anything solid. I'm sure it can be done but it is much more involved and complex of a system it seems to me.

I saw one fella who devised a way to ignite salt water using microwaves or something.

And then there is the guy who makes o3 gas from water.

I am sure there are multiple ways to utilize 'alternative' fuel sources. I think the idea of using water is exceptionally brilliant. But I am a stickler for simplicity.

And in the end, I hope someone can take my design and improve upon it. That would really be something.

[bam fest]

This thread is like the plot to a film i'm watching right now on tv called chain reaction, with keanu reeves .


The pollution revloution

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http://blog.waterforfuel.com/

Nifty

[cruise4]

There's some good coverage of potential free energy stuff on this forum if you want to search. The electric method does seem to have a lot of benefits to me, no filling up, use for the home etc.

The one thing that does worry me, if this stuff comes from what some are calling 'the Conciousness field'... maybe we become the same as the Reps?

[chomofski]

I dont know where the energy known as electricity originates from. Does it iminate from our consciousness???? I dont know. Thats a new one to me.

Perhaps one day all 'machinery' will be powered by consciousness. but before we get to that, I am sure there has to be transitional steps.

[kevstodd]

Originally Posted by chomofski

I experimented with 'water fuel' for about two years but really never came up with anything solid. I'm sure it can be done but it is much more involved and complex of a system it seems to me.

And then there is the guy who makes o3 gas from water.

I hope someone can take my design and improve upon it. That would really be something.

lo there chomofski I do think that if you did really have something you would get it out to the masses ASAP but you seem so fixated in going down one path that you cant seem to grasp what the people are saying to you, why come on a forum to mention a device with IMHO no intention of letting people know anything !

i know people that have had massive success with the water fuel cell after only a few month ! its a simple setup as you can get ,you must have been doing something wrong if you couldent get it working .
you say you experimented for 2 year with the fuel cell but i dont think you did your homework bud .
as you say that a guy created o3 from water when water has 2 hydrogen molecules and 1 oxygen molecule as you would know with working on the fuel cell ( are you debunker ? )
it does seem to be a bit iffy to me as to why you would of EVEN mentioned o3 =ozone !(3 oxygen molecules ) .i use an ozone generator to decontaminate my drinking water and ozone has a half life of 20 odd minutes (in cold !! water)and can easily be created with certain type of uv lights. Making o3 gas from water would be i would have thought a little hard and what he would do with all the hydrogen !(lol) and how could the 3 oxygen molecules stick together ? what would be the point when there are much easier ways to make o3 with no hydrogen waste oh and isnt o3 a gas anyways ?
If you really did have something so simple then why not get a loan, mass produce them through decompartmentalization and then go door to door if you have to and install them yourself as you must have an understanding on how it works to be able to tell the manufacturers what it does and where it goes and no doubt someone you install it to will be willing to help out with other costs THATS IF ITS REAL (WHATEVER IT IS)
most inventors can give out a little something in the way of a schematic without giving the game away and if you cant then IMO you aint got sh!t ....

[h2pogo]

how much money do you need to build a prototype?

[tothestars]

Here is a rich open-minded guy that you can ask for funding

http://www.smintair.com/THOUGHTS/thoughts.html

Worth a try.

Good luck.

[chrism]

If you have a 'free energy' source you should email it to everyone you know, and get them to email it on to everyone they no. Disseminate it as far and wide as possible, so no-one can deny its existence.

Trying to profit from it will be your downfall, as by keeping the secret you are setting yourself up for targetting by the PTB and the oil companies etc in particular.

You will make more than enough money from the hero status you will achieve by being the saviour of the world. You don't need investors, just a patent (which anyone can get and you should have already) and access to the internet.

I would also suggest you post the schematics here in full, and explain how the system will work. You have access to many people here, based all over the world, who will be happy to disseminate your theories to the rest of civilisation. If it works, you get to claim the benefits and be rich from book tours, talk shows and general hero worship/personal appearances.

Also - owning the patent - you will be in a position to license your product to those currently providing the power. If the power is free, the use of nuclear, fossil fuel and even 'alternative' sources of power will fade and it would be uneconomic to use any other form of 'fuel'. Again you get rich, after the fact.

Until proven and importantly IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN, anyone investing in this energy source is putting themselves in the crosshairs.

If you can't get a patent because someone already has one on this system and is withholding it from the public, then unlucky - it is not your original idea. Still, by getting it out to the whole world and breaking their hold on things, you should still profit very nicely out of it.

Good luck,

Chrism

[cruise4]

The PICC, Pre-Ignition Catalytic Converter is a breakthrough new technology that could get your car up to five times the gas mileage! Its genius is its simplicity. Here’s how it works:

Every car has a Catalytic Converter. The Catalytic Converter that is currently installed on your car is intended to help eliminate pollution and is located in your exhaust pipe. It works by breaking down the large gas molecules that were not burned in your engine and turns them into smaller particles that can be burned in your tailpipe before being released into the air, so less exhaust hits the environment. What if we could turn the gases you are throwing away via your exhaust into added mileage and power for your vehicle?

In other words, what if we “cracked” the gas and broke it down into smaller particles before it went into the engine — not after the engine had wasted it? Everything you would otherwise be throwing away would now be burned IN YOUR ENGINE, providing additional mileage and power! Well, that is what we did! Using a magnetic and electrical reaction to break down the fuel molecules into their elemental state, the PICC creates a plasma, which burns super efficiently and cleanly! Our “Pre-Ignition” Catalytic Converter feeds the engine instead of the environment. So the gasoline you pay for goes further and the exhaust is so negligible it hardly registers.
What Kind of Savings Can Be Achieved?

Can you imagine what being able to burn all the gasoline in your engine would mean to fuel savings? Here’s what our scientific testing has shown: In one test at our Research Facility, we got 9X the fuel efficiency from a gas guzzling 318 V-8 Chrysler engine. We ran a 318 V-8 Chrysler engine on a brand new state of the art dynamometer (the same testing equipment that Detroit uses) at 3,000 rpms under a 50% load for an hour. This test condition approximated an 8 cylinder van with a 318 engine, traveling up a 30 degree incline for one hour, at 65 miles per hour. Before the PICC modification, the engine used 18 pounds of fuel. At an average weight of 6.15 pounds per gallon for gasoline, that would equal 2.93 gallons of fuel. Converting that into miles per gallon, it got around 22 mpg.

The researchers then switched the fuel injection process to the PICC Modification and ran the engine under the exact same conditions for another hour. Now, the engine used only 2 pounds of fuel instead of 18 — an increase in efficiency of 9x. In other words, the vehicle traveling at 65 mph up a 30 degree incline for an hour would have obtained almost 200 mpg! When they shut off the engine, the researchers reported that it coasted on the plasma for another two minutes.
What Does This Mean To You?

This test with a 318 V-8 gas guzzling engine is just the first big V-8 engine that we ran under scientific conditions at our Research Facility. We believe based on results like these that our plasma could revolutionize fuel economy for ALL vehicles — including SUVs and Pickups — that should easily get better than 100 miles per gallon with the PICC. To be able to modify SUVs of any size to get 100 mpg minimal fuel economy will revolutionize the auto industry!

http://preignitioncc.com/befreetech/

[chomofski]

'I do think that if you did really have something you would get it out to the masses ASAP but you seem so fixated in going down one path that you cant seem to grasp what the people are saying to you, why come on a forum to mention a device with IMHO no intention of letting people know anything !'


There are many things wrong with your opening statement sir (and your intent as well) but I will try to respond in a way that WONT make you look like that idiot that stares back at you in the reflecting glass. I will not lower myself to your level for accomodation.

Attitude is the most evident thing in writing. You can really guage a person by how and what they CHOOSE to write.

'you seem so fixated in going down one path that you cant seem to grasp what the people are saying to you'


First off, I AM fixated on a certain path. A path that through much research (and trial & error) I have determined to be most effective in reaching the masses. And actually, what I have written here does not play a role at all in this. I grasp very well the suggestions I have gotten here. But if you had ALL the info I have, you too would know that the suggestions I have been offered are NOT the BEST way to go. It is my position that electric technologies will replace the internal combustion engine soon. I am not posting my designs here for a reason. YOU just dont know what they are yet, and if you did, you would most likely agree. A few have PM'd me about this and once they knew a little more, they agreed as well.

I find it amazing how people come to such fixed conclusions based on limited information.

'why come on a forum to mention a device with IMHO no intention of letting people know anything?'

If you would have read some of the other things I've written in this thread, you would know I have already expressed my purpose for bringing this here. It was ONLY to guage the reaction of the 'masses' I thought would be best to present this idea to first. And as expected, the reactions have been mixed.

The actual unveiling of this will be VERY PUBLIC. This IS going to make the headlines of every news station and paper.

And to quickly reply about 'water fuel'....

I am sure there are several ways to efficiently use water for fuel. I know there are many that have done it already.

What I abandoned after two years was the COMPLEXITY of the internal combustion engine. I could make it work but what I have NOW has about 93% LESS moving parts and components (less to break and go wrong) and weighs less that half as a common engine/transmission. Internal combustion engines are great and they certainly get the job done. But I liken them to the first computers.

'If you really did have something so simple then why not get a loan, mass produce them through decompartmentalization and then go door to door if you have to and install them yourself as you must have an understanding on how it works to be able to tell the manufacturers what it does and where it goes... '

If you REALLY think that it is that simple or is the best way to go, then you havent a clue of how technologies are really unveiled to the public. The 'Patent Office' exists for a reason and its not for what they claim. It functions to monitor and censor information (and brilliant persons for that matter) to make sure ONLY approved knowledge gets through. What I am doing is in effect circumventing the 'controlled' method. When this hits, EVERYONE will know. The things I keep hidden are done so for damn good reason. And until this prototype is built, there are some things I have not and WILL NOT put down on paper. Then somewhere down the line it will be said that 'this crazy guy first put his idea on David Icke's Forum and was mocked' (by persons like yourself).

But since there has beeen a beckoning... I will give you this..........

Are you aware there is a way to expand electrical current (multiple times) through clever use of (what we would call) 'centripetal force'?? Ever played with a gyroscope as a child?? What makes it work goes far beyond concepts of 'angular momentum'... these things when in place are actually spherical energy fields. What happens to electricity when it passes through the center of these generated fields??? What does electrical current look like in (what we would call) a '0 gravity' environment??? hmmm...


** And in response to a question, I am only seeking 150K (American) to get this thing built. I am in talks right now with a few persons who are interested but will decide on ONE. Theres only so many hands I want in this cookie jar for this phase of the project. Even though it probably wont cost that much(I overshot it by about 30K I think), I want to make sure ALL my bases are covered... better to have too much than not enough kinda mentality. The most expensive thing will be the car. I'm leaning towards an Elise. And the cost for the average person to have this in their car, I think (so far) we can make it under 7k per vehicular conversion. And it will most likely be much less as this ball starts rolling. But to have the machinery, facilities, etc.. to produce the first one will by far be the largest expense of phase 1. And as stated before, when the 'proof' exists, finding funds to mass produce will not be an issue.