80% UK Laws Now Made In Brussels

and justice for all · 09-06-2008, 12:34 AM

Like a gold coin on a dunghill, the truth about the EU
dailymail.co.uk

Amid the silly soap opera that now passes for British politics, in which we are supposed to care more about hairstyles and mannerisms than about the country, there was one moment last week when a decent man said something important. The brief flash of truth shone out like a gold coin on a dunghill.

The man was Peter Lilley, [...]

But his clear, hard message was that 80 per cent of our laws are now made in Brussels, and Parliament has no power to reject or amend them.

If you wonder why our Post Offices are all closing, it’s thanks to an EU directive. So is the increasingly hated Data Protection Act. So are Home Improvement Packs and fortnightly bin collections.

In 15 years’ time our Parliament will have only two functions left – to raise taxes and declare war – admittedly things that our current politicians are rather keen on.

Mr Lilley’s mischievous suggestion is that MPs’ pay should be cut each time they hand over authority to others. Incredibly, many MPs don’t know what is going on. If they ended up on the wages paid to district councillors – which is all they really are now – they might care more.

His own stark words cannot be improved upon: ‘Few voters, or even members of this house, fully realise how many powers have been, or are about to be, transferred elsewhere. There are three reasons for this. The first is that governments of all persuasions deny that any significant powers are being transferred.

The second is that, once powers have been transferred, Ministers engage in a charade of pretence that they still retain those powers. Even when introducing measures that they are obliged to bring in as a result of an EU directive they behave as though the initiative were their own.

‘Indeed, Ministers often end up nobly accepting responsibility for laws that they actually opposed when they were being negotiated in Brussels.’ [...]

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steppewar · 09-06-2008, 05:29 AM

I've known about this 80% shit for years. Anyone who votes Lab, Con or Lib is an absolute ignorant, thick cretin. They don't realise that they are voting for a single party dictatorship.

And then they have the cheek to whinge that nothing ever changes!

Most voters in the UK need to wake up and smell some seriously strong coffee.

on the road · 09-06-2008, 04:21 PM

100% on 1/1/09

lightgiver · 10-06-2008, 09:57 PM

The only brussels i like,
are of the sprouty type

09-06-2008, 12:34 AM	#1
and justice for all Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,241	80% UK Laws Now Made In Brussels Like a gold coin on a dunghill, the truth about the EU dailymail.co.uk Amid the silly soap opera that now passes for British politics, in which we are supposed to care more about hairstyles and mannerisms than about the country, there was one moment last week when a decent man said something important. The brief flash of truth shone out like a gold coin on a dunghill. The man was Peter Lilley, [...] But his clear, hard message was that 80 per cent of our laws are now made in Brussels, and Parliament has no power to reject or amend them. If you wonder why our Post Offices are all closing, it’s thanks to an EU directive. So is the increasingly hated Data Protection Act. So are Home Improvement Packs and fortnightly bin collections. In 15 years’ time our Parliament will have only two functions left – to raise taxes and declare war – admittedly things that our current politicians are rather keen on. Mr Lilley’s mischievous suggestion is that MPs’ pay should be cut each time they hand over authority to others. Incredibly, many MPs don’t know what is going on. If they ended up on the wages paid to district councillors – which is all they really are now – they might care more. His own stark words cannot be improved upon: ‘Few voters, or even members of this house, fully realise how many powers have been, or are about to be, transferred elsewhere. There are three reasons for this. The first is that governments of all persuasions deny that any significant powers are being transferred. The second is that, once powers have been transferred, Ministers engage in a charade of pretence that they still retain those powers. Even when introducing measures that they are obliged to bring in as a result of an EU directive they behave as though the initiative were their own. ‘Indeed, Ministers often end up nobly accepting responsibility for laws that they actually opposed when they were being negotiated in Brussels.’ [...] Read more; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-truth-EU.html

09-06-2008, 04:21 PM	#3
on the road Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: north west england Posts: 946	100% on 1/1/09 __________________ shits happening

09-06-2008, 05:29 AM	#2
steppewar Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: a cloud in cuckoo land Posts: 4,411	I've known about this 80% shit for years. Anyone who votes Lab, Con or Lib is an absolute ignorant, thick cretin. They don't realise that they are voting for a single party dictatorship. And then they have the cheek to whinge that nothing ever changes! Most voters in the UK need to wake up and smell some seriously strong coffee.

10-06-2008, 09:57 PM	#4
lightgiver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 28,691	The only brussels i like, are of the sprouty type