Ism's - What religion are you?

shottie · 09-04-2007, 09:57 PM

Christianity ism (which i think is a word, check google), Judaism, Muslimism (so is this one), Buddhism, Sikhism, Gnosticism etc.

What are you called if you don't follow any of the above?

Atheist (or atheism).

It's like there trying to create the so called 'non religion' system for those who want to break out/wake up or whatever...

Perhaps a type of religion is good but i dont like the term 'religon' as it implies that i/you am governed by a god and at the end of my/your so called life made to face consequences dependent upon the actions made by oneself in that lifetime etc, etc.

Maybe a belief system created by oneself for oneself based on one's beliefs..

So what do i believe?

I believe i wake up every morning, i believe i need food and water to exist, I believe i need air/oxygen to breath, i believe i need all the things the ego requires to make me happy. I could probably go on for days (so i believe) but that would be silly.

Deep down what do i believe?

I believe that a lot of people are in need of support, including myself.
I believe i that i have the power (for what im not sure) but it is something that will be beautiful and beneficial to humanity and nature.

Any opinions and views welcome!

tinmenace · 10-04-2007, 12:45 AM

If it feels right to you and it gives you peace, then you must go with it.

For me, I don't sit and think about what I believe in, and I don't try to categorize it and bundle it neatly into a recognizable parcel. That would just fry my brain!

I just don't think about it anymore. I spent the first 36 years of my life thinking about it, and analyzing it to death, and searching searching searching. Now I just am and I'm at peace with it.

Sorry if that's a lame answer

shottie · 10-04-2007, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinmenace

If it feels right to you and it gives you peace, then you must go with it.

For me, I don't sit and think about what I believe in, and I don't try to categorize it and bundle it neatly into a recognizable parcel. That would just fry my brain!

I just don't think about it anymore. I spent the first 36 years of my life thinking about it, and analyzing it to death, and searching searching searching. Now I just am and I'm at peace with it.

Sorry if that's a lame answer

No thats a great answer, plain and simple. Thanks!

armitage_vi · 10-04-2007, 03:52 PM

I'm fine being a Pagan, I believe that the universe IS GOD I believe in the infinite consciousness theory, I believe that if we are going to worship anything as holy it should be the Earth, the sun and the moon and the seasons because it is these things that sustain life for us all to enjoy this experience......

However I also believe in the Theory of Everything where EVERYTHING is interconnect at some level or another....

I believe that Infinite Love is the only truth and everything else is illussion

eyedontbelieveu · 12-04-2007, 06:00 AM

Why would you want to believe a reflected illusion? That's what all isms was, were, and will be.

KNOW "SELF", KNOW "GOD"/ NO "SELF", NO "GOD"

P.E.A.C.E.

auron · 12-04-2007, 06:21 PM

I was debating with myself the other day weather i'm Infinite Consciousnessism or Infinite Loveism. I just can't decide.

informationx · 12-04-2007, 07:52 PM

I dont subscribe to any religion, but if there is wisdom to be gathered in any of them which I think will be useful to me, ill try and integrate it into my daily life.

Also Ill reject information which I think is useless in relation to myself, and the world I experience. I think you can find nuggets of good stuff from most religions.

As Bruce Lee said -: "Absorb what is useful, reject that which is useless, and add what specifically is your own"

Something like that. I think bruce lee got his main thinking from Jiddu Krishnamurti.

I think if you sign up to a specific religion, by definition you are ruling out many other possibility's, and you end up defending your "label" all the time, and not growing and learning.

eyedontbelieveu · 13-04-2007, 05:21 AM

"No amount of intellectual information about this or that, particularly about structure, function, and order constitutes Wisdom or Understanding. Information must not be identified with Knowledge. One could be a walking encyclopedia of information and be devoid of Knowledge. Information pertains to the mental level, mostly cortical functions in relation to the 'objective world' and has no basis in fundamental Life-facts; it rests upon a system of concepts abstracted from the effects (phenomena) produced or caused by fundamental Life-facts. Therefore, do not hold on for one second to any preconceived and emotionally held concept or idea. If you can get the Truth from any source, by all means get it; but you will discover that you cannot get it mentally or retain it on a mental level if you do get it. Truth, Knowledge, Understanding is attained by Mind on the Mind-level - not mental or intellectual on or in the psychic-nature, which pertains to the reflection not to that shining mountain rising above the waters. Before you had a cortex with which to think and with which you develop your private world, there were no abstractions, you never abstracted anything, you didn't have the faculty with which to abstract, consciously or unconsciously; relative to the aeons you have been in existence, the times that you have had a cortex are approximately one second to one hundred thousand years."

informationx · 13-04-2007, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyedontbelieveu

"No amount of intellectual information about this or that, particularly about structure, function, and order constitutes Wisdom or Understanding. Information must not be identified with Knowledge. One could be a walking encyclopedia of information and be devoid of Knowledge. Information pertains to the mental level, mostly cortical functions in relation to the 'objective world' and has no basis in fundamental Life-facts; it rests upon a system of concepts abstracted from the effects (phenomena) produced or caused by fundamental Life-facts. Therefore, do not hold on for one second to any preconceived and emotionally held concept or idea. If you can get the Truth from any source, by all means get it; but you will discover that you cannot get it mentally or retain it on a mental level if you do get it. Truth, Knowledge, Understanding is attained by Mind on the Mind-level - not mental or intellectual on or in the psychic-nature, which pertains to the reflection not to that shining mountain rising above the waters. Before you had a cortex with which to think and with which you develop your private world, there were no abstractions, you never abstracted anything, you didn't have the faculty with which to abstract, consciously or unconsciously; relative to the aeons you have been in existence, the times that you have had a cortex are approximately one second to one hundred thousand years."

I am beginning to see my subtle mind

oceanwave · 13-04-2007, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shottie

Christianity ism (which i think is a word, check google), Judaism, Muslimism (so is this one), Buddhism, Sikhism, Gnosticism etc.

What are you called if you don't follow any of the above?

Atheist (or atheism).

...what about agnosticism?...

eyedontbelieveu · 13-04-2007, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by informationx

I am beginning to see my subtle mind

To clarify, my post was not a reply to yours. It was a follow-up to my previous one.

P.E.A.C.E.

informationx · 14-04-2007, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyedontbelieveu

To clarify, my post was not a reply to yours. It was a follow-up to my previous one.

P.E.A.C.E.

Hey no problem,

Although not directed at me, it still had a resonance I understood

3ill · 15-04-2007, 04:11 AM

The closest would be a mix of Meataphysical Sillypsism (sp?) Discordian Chaos Magick, and Some of the manifestation ideas in "Infinite Love."

09-04-2007, 09:57 PM	#1
shottie Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 299	Ism's - What religion are you? Christianity ism (which i think is a word, check google), Judaism, Muslimism (so is this one), Buddhism, Sikhism, Gnosticism etc. What are you called if you don't follow any of the above? Atheist (or atheism). It's like there trying to create the so called 'non religion' system for those who want to break out/wake up or whatever... Perhaps a type of religion is good but i dont like the term 'religon' as it implies that i/you am governed by a god and at the end of my/your so called life made to face consequences dependent upon the actions made by oneself in that lifetime etc, etc. Maybe a belief system created by oneself for oneself based on one's beliefs.. So what do i believe? I believe i wake up every morning, i believe i need food and water to exist, I believe i need air/oxygen to breath, i believe i need all the things the ego requires to make me happy. I could probably go on for days (so i believe) but that would be silly. Deep down what do i believe? I believe that a lot of people are in need of support, including myself. I believe i that i have the power (for what im not sure) but it is something that will be beautiful and beneficial to humanity and nature. Any opinions and views welcome!

10-04-2007, 03:52 PM	#4
armitage_vi Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 16	I'm fine being a Pagan, I believe that the universe IS GOD I believe in the infinite consciousness theory, I believe that if we are going to worship anything as holy it should be the Earth, the sun and the moon and the seasons because it is these things that sustain life for us all to enjoy this experience...... However I also believe in the Theory of Everything where EVERYTHING is interconnect at some level or another.... I believe that Infinite Love is the only truth and everything else is illussion __________________ Regards, David F Asymptote: www.myspace.com/asymptote Asymptote Radio: www.live365.com/stations/asymptote6

12-04-2007, 06:00 AM	#5
eyedontbelieveu Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 33rd PARALLEL Posts: 86	Why would you want to believe a reflected illusion? That's what all isms was, were, and will be. KNOW "SELF", KNOW "GOD"/ NO "SELF", NO "GOD" P.E.A.C.E. Last edited by eyedontbelieveu; 12-04-2007 at 06:05 AM.

12-04-2007, 07:52 PM	#7
informationx Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 855	I dont subscribe to any religion, but if there is wisdom to be gathered in any of them which I think will be useful to me, ill try and integrate it into my daily life. Also Ill reject information which I think is useless in relation to myself, and the world I experience. I think you can find nuggets of good stuff from most religions. As Bruce Lee said -: "Absorb what is useful, reject that which is useless, and add what specifically is your own" Something like that. I think bruce lee got his main thinking from Jiddu Krishnamurti. I think if you sign up to a specific religion, by definition you are ruling out many other possibility's, and you end up defending your "label" all the time, and not growing and learning. __________________ "Many impossibles are simply unknowns. When the unknown becomes known, the impossible disappears" informationx http://information-x.110mb.com/LEGAL...-REFERENCE.htm http://information-x.110mb.com/

13-04-2007, 05:21 AM	#8
eyedontbelieveu Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: 33rd PARALLEL Posts: 86	Wisdom Knowledge Understanding Truth "No amount of intellectual information about this or that, particularly about structure, function, and order constitutes Wisdom or Understanding. Information must not be identified with Knowledge. One could be a walking encyclopedia of information and be devoid of Knowledge. Information pertains to the mental level, mostly cortical functions in relation to the 'objective world' and has no basis in fundamental Life-facts; it rests upon a system of concepts abstracted from the effects (phenomena) produced or caused by fundamental Life-facts. Therefore, do not hold on for one second to any preconceived and emotionally held concept or idea. If you can get the Truth from any source, by all means get it; but you will discover that you cannot get it mentally or retain it on a mental level if you do get it. Truth, Knowledge, Understanding is attained by Mind on the Mind-level - not mental or intellectual on or in the psychic-nature, which pertains to the reflection not to that shining mountain rising above the waters. Before you had a cortex with which to think and with which you develop your private world, there were no abstractions, you never abstracted anything, you didn't have the faculty with which to abstract, consciously or unconsciously; relative to the aeons you have been in existence, the times that you have had a cortex are approximately one second to one hundred thousand years."

10-04-2007, 12:45 AM	#2
tinmenace Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,790	If it feels right to you and it gives you peace, then you must go with it. For me, I don't sit and think about what I believe in, and I don't try to categorize it and bundle it neatly into a recognizable parcel. That would just fry my brain! I just don't think about it anymore. I spent the first 36 years of my life thinking about it, and analyzing it to death, and searching searching searching. Now I just am and I'm at peace with it. Sorry if that's a lame answer

12-04-2007, 06:21 PM	#6
auron Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: A Love Nest Posts: 4,030	I was debating with myself the other day weather i'm Infinite Consciousnessism or Infinite Loveism. I just can't decide.

15-04-2007, 04:11 AM	#13
3ill Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 143	The closest would be a mix of Meataphysical Sillypsism (sp?) Discordian Chaos Magick, and Some of the manifestation ideas in "Infinite Love."