nz police crack down on socially conscious beings

soltru · 24-10-2007, 12:45 AM

you may or may not know but last monday the nz police launched raids all around the country, enforcing nz's terrorism suppression bill.
they targeted maori sovereignty, enviromental, and peace activists all over nz.
all you need to do is google indymedia nz and get all the links from thea

thea is a global awareness day this sat to demonstrate that we will not accept the global and national war of terror being orchestrated by the 'authorites' in nz or abroad.

much love and light to all

nick lyons

hamilton
nz

peachped · 24-10-2007, 12:56 AM

Is it to do with this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/asia-pacific/7048487.stm

Good luck with the -global awareness day this sat to demonstrate that we will not accept the global blah blah Mr Lyons.

mynameis · 24-10-2007, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peachped

Is it to do with this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/asia-pacific/7048487.stm

Good luck with the -global awareness day this sat to demonstrate that we will not accept the global blah blah Mr Lyons.

Who's original land was it? Looks like Murdoch propaganda strikes right off the bat.

Quote:

Prosecutors in New Zealand have accused a group of Maori activists arrested on Monday of planning a violent campaign against the country's white majority.

I hope the journalists can back up such sensational claims as to view all Maori in such speculation as activists and against a Caucasian majority.

What is the purpose of this picture?

Who's life did he threaten?

pollock · 24-10-2007, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameis

Who's life did he threaten?

If it is as close to show down-time as I feel, they will be trying to disrupt any real activists and spiritual people with intensifying force!
I believe that to be one of the first signs, we should keep our eyes open.

F

soltru · 24-10-2007, 10:55 PM

that is the story,

its interesting to see how the international media is portraying this story and tame iti. like its the back to colonial days, and he's the native savage.

in nz most know that it is bullshit.

tame iti is an amazing character, he has been open honest and transparent in everything he's done for the last 20 - 30 years. which includes such a range of activities in the community,
social worker, talk show host, provider of traditional maori food, and artist. extremely articulate, he has the ability to interact with the upper and lower class in nz, and around the world.

but its not just maori sovereignty activists ( tino rangitiratanga)
its anarchists, enviro's and peace activists,
in other words its light and dark skinned people.

cheers

nick

peachped · 24-10-2007, 11:49 PM

It's a strange one this because as you say Nick these 'peace activists' or so called peace activists if indeed they are training for war against the white man - as reports would have us believe... At least one of them is white.

Could this be an infiltrate and incite scenario in order to bring in new laws? Or did they really say those things and train to become terrorists? It doesn't make sense.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/...300778780.html

ashyr · 25-10-2007, 01:51 AM

yeah this is definatly some massive media hype. they are just dredging this one up.

i also think this is somewhat connected to or if in someway a setup for. the coming event that "Charlie Adams" was trying to expose.

getting the maori to act. or re act to pressure from the white mans ways.

the tuhoi are actually a soveriegn nation now i think. as of just recently. hah
cool!.

and also the funny thing is. that Helen Clark. (priminister) or (Government Body) funded Tame Iti to training and recruiting youths or caring and teaching young maori.

funny aye.

and get this the latest BLOAT scoop. is they have elivated it to include

possible "Plots to assasinate Helen Clark and G w Bush"

ahhah i mean comon. lol

i could see it happening so easily to.

heres my take on it

"we all know how the Maori Haka and Movement and Primitave lifestyles are being exploited on a global scale , not just from rugby and the world cup. but even in marketing now" its kinda dumb we all know to see a haka performed or a waiata or huia,pophiri ( sorry spelling) all that stuff is mighty impressive in the flesh and is down right terrifiying in parts. and thats why its like that. to say hey. we are not as dumb as you think. and were going to draw the line here. dont cross it or we'll deal to you. simply. defending what they know. now the way its going is were all being de sensitised thru media flabber gastery. making it like a spectacle or clown like display esp with the latest addition of the throat slitting motion with the rugby haka's. couldnt you see this happening. i mean they had the perfect chance the other day. lol some mind controlled , front altar innocent big buff maori, facial tattoo's, patu in hand. doing his thing infront of "CHIEFS and DIGNITARYS" just snaps into back altar and goes "BLEH" and patu's helens crown off her head along with here scalp.

VERY EASY. and they would all look along with amazement. cause they let them get that close in the first place saying. hehe look im not scared ive been to 50 marae's and the welcoming's, its just there thing see they dont mean no harm,, CLONK!

imagine hilters troops reports back to base about them shitting there undys at these full face moko's tattooed young warriors with patu's and tiaha's rushing the german trenches and blugening them. the germans were so scared they had never seen anything like this.
INSANE RUSH FOR FREEDOM.

so yeah i read somewhere this report saying "TONGAN" and Pacific island peoples were the most softest easiest to program people. yet the problem being is there so solid in defence and foundation that once set you cant move that shit.

u know what i mean . if u know about the atempted colonisation of certain areas which still hasnt happend to this day.
haha

suckers.

i say Go the Tuhoi and Maori activist. this is such a raw deal.
cant wait to see what unfolds next.

He is still in prison without bail isnt he (Tame Iti)

mynameis · 02-11-2007, 02:40 AM

Does New Zealand face a terror threat?
By Colin Peacock
Wellington, New Zealand
Last Updated: Thursday, 1 November 2007, 17:41 GMT

Tame Iti, pictured in 2004
Arrested Maori activist Tame Iti is regarded as non-violent
After the US was attacked on 11 September 2001, governments around the world adopted new laws to combat terrorism. New Zealand was one of them.

Like other nations, it wanted to be ready in case foreign terrorist groups entered the country.

But it was New Zealanders who were arrested when the Terrorism Suppression Act was used for the first time.

Armed police carried out raids throughout the country in the early hours of 16 October, after discovering what they said was a secret paramilitary-style training camp in a remote part of the country's north-east.

Police said they seized guns, ammunition and molotov cocktails, and they even said some of those arrested had detonated a napalm bomb a week earlier.

All this was shocking news in New Zealand, which has no experience of armed insurrection in its modern history.

In fact it has barely had any experience of serious political violence at all.

Flamboyant agitator

The alleged training camp was in a region populated mainly by indigenous Maori people, whose ancestors resisted British colonialism in the 19th Century.

More recently, some have backed a long-standing movement for Maori independence, but that campaign has always been a political one - and not an armed struggle.

Dr Rawiri Taonui
This is about scaring the community to enhance state power and restore a police force beset by scandals
Dr Rawiri Taonui
Canterbury University's Maori Studies school
Maoris living nearby say there are no training camps and no paramilitaries in the bush there - only pig-hunters and campsites where local youths learn hunting and survival skills in summer.

"It is the forest margin. It is no secret that there are scores of camps. There are some old and illegitimate guns. But they're usually more dangerous to the users," says Dr Rawiri Taonui, the head of Canterbury University's Maori Studies school.

"And napalm? Fire-starting cubes, dirt and petrol and glycerol mixes are standard outdoor things. The odd idiot makes a big one, but that's a far cry from making bombs."

Among those arrested on 16 October was Tame Iti, a charismatic campaigner for Maori sovereignty. He is now behind bars charged with breaking New Zealand's gun laws.

He is known as a flamboyant and confrontational agitator who enjoys his notoriety, but not as a violent man.

"We're very disappointed that my father's in custody," says his son Toi Iti.

"But my father is not a terrorist and I believe the majority of the New Zealand public realise that."

Mr Iti's detention has become the focus of Maori anger, with hundreds of people protesting at his latest court appearance, in Rotorua on 25 October.

David Small
I don't think there's ever even been a single molotov cocktail thrown at a riot in New Zealand
David Small
University of Canterbury

The protesters say the armed raids were politically motivated and nothing to do with law and order.

"This is about scaring the community to enhance state power and restore a police force beset by scandals," says Dr Rawiri Taonui.

Raids 'necessary'

However, most of those arrested were not Maoris. They were environmental and political activists from disparate groups throughout the country.

Some of them have also been charged with having illegal guns, but none has yet been charged with offences under the anti-terror law that was used to authorise the raids in the first place.

Consequently, most New Zealanders are finding it hard to believe that they have formed some sort of militant alliance ready for violent action.

University of Canterbury academic David Small, who successfully sued the police for searching his home illegally during a security operation in 1996, says the use of the anti-terrorism law cannot be justified. "I don't think there's ever even been a single molotov cocktail thrown at a riot in New Zealand," he said.

"So I would be astonished if right now a whole lot of people around the country had suddenly decided now is the time to use violence to advance a political agenda."

But while opponents of the Terrorism Suppression Act are calling for it to be scrapped, the government is currently seeking to strengthen it.

map
Changes before parliament specify long prison sentences for terrorist acts, and put the prime minister in charge of reviewing which entities should be classed as "terrorist groups".

The police are being accused of failing to distinguish between political and criminal activity.

But senior officials, including Prime Minister Helen Clark, insist the pre-emptive action was justified.

Following the raid, Police Minister Annette King told reporters: "I suspect if anything had happened, you would be standing here saying to me 'Why didn't the useless cops do anything about it?'"

The full extent of the radical activity which prompted the controversial raids will eventually be revealed in the courts - but for now, New Zealanders are left wondering just how peaceful their traditionally calm country really is.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7062341.stm

optimus pigpot · 02-11-2007, 07:17 AM

[QUOTE=mynameis;169724]Who's original land was it? Looks like Murdoch propaganda strikes right off the bat.QUOTE]

We have to be very careful here. Die hard White Supremacists say that "niggers" shouldn't be in the U.K. as it isn't their home.

"Go back to where you belong", we hear them shout.

Don't get side-tracked by this is their's and that's ours. Now that's the shit that Rupert Murdoch creates......

Message ends.........

mynameis · 02-11-2007, 07:46 AM

[QUOTE=optimus pigpot;178463]

Quote:

Originally Posted by mynameis

Who's original land was it? Looks like Murdoch propaganda strikes right off the bat.QUOTE]

We have to be very careful here. Die hard White Supremacists say that "niggers" shouldn't be in the U.K. as it isn't their home.

"Go back to where you belong", we hear them shout.

Don't get side-tracked by this is their's and that's ours. Now that's the shit that Rupert Murdoch creates......

Message ends.........

Yep. It's important to know who the groups were involved instead of painting an entire group of people. It's better to be specific and target those involved instead of those who may not have any guilt or committed a crime. This could be set up by provocateurs.

optimus pigpot · 02-11-2007, 08:39 AM

You have still not learned from the words of the wise one you call Icke.......

Problem:
"They", have created Maori activists like Tame Iti by, "taking ", his land or what he thought was his land. Having the preconception that it was his land before his people reached it and therefore where did, "he", come from before he reached, "his", land and who did, "he", or, "his" ancestors take, "their", land from and so on and so on.......An issue that will never be resolved unless we all admit that it will only be solved by saying, "It belong to us all, no borders and no restrictions, no religions, no faith, no crap........"

Reaction: White folk begin to get pissed off with Tame Iti...... Maori folk get pissed off with white folk....... Resentment builds.........People are arrested, get pissed off........

Solution: HELEN CLARK IMPOSES A FORM OF MARTIAL AND COURT LAW

Message ends......... What fucking crap......

Answer........ Don't be fooled, just don't react.........

Message double ends........

soltru · 02-11-2007, 11:11 AM

its the old divide and strategy, so simple its rears its head in most larger scale conflicts,

what has been significant to me is nz people's lack of outward expressions of solidarity with the people of other nations, nations that are in a much worse condition than nz, much less freedom of expression, larger gaps between those with wealth and those without, widespread social dysfunction.

it takes the war of terror to come barging thru our homes for us to realise that the state and institutions of authority will attempt to further restrict our 'freedoms', even in good old clean green nz, a place many call paradise.

these events must increase the people of nz's consciousness and awareness of the plight of those around the world, we must do all we can for those around the world that have much less ability to educate and empower themselves, their communties and their nations.

mynameis · 02-11-2007, 08:23 PM

See my big problem with this is that Tami Iti is right, and laws are used to put people into ghettoes or steal the land they already occupy or occupied. The law and politics are not even in this fashion. Should politicians throw you off your own lands anytime they wish because they have police, an army, or laws. This is what's happening in the United States, Australia, Hawaii, South America, Africa, Philippines, and China. There are other locales I can't remember, but the point is might does not make right.

ashyr · 04-11-2007, 07:59 AM

the problem is there is no problem.

I KNOW this is just a bullshit time attack.
shes trying to beat G.W's record on DATONA USA.

This is classic mind-cloud announcements.

they repeat the trigger words. on every channel. repeat headlines and keywords.
they never resolve the issue because then they can make out they have left us PUBLIC time to talk among ourselves. asif were some seperate entity from Government.

The fact of the matter is. This Problem they have with the Maori. is the latest or closest to modern day. act of bullshit colonialism or musket trading. fucking bully sluts from bri-tan. plans to conquest this graceland. that everyone is still freshly remembrant of it.

TIGHT ARSE CUNTS. selling guns for land? what happens when they run out of bullets?
its just like the WW2 fighter bombers for germany and usa. all couldnt run without patent brand oils.

but we take this shit sitting down. althought NZ are a rather bright bunch of bushmen. we can build a fort.

I think if there was a fist fight between Helen Clark and G W. Helen would knock his teeth out. She's more man than he is.

24-10-2007, 12:45 AM	#1
soltru Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: hamilton Posts: 36	nz police crack down on socially conscious beings you may or may not know but last monday the nz police launched raids all around the country, enforcing nz's terrorism suppression bill. they targeted maori sovereignty, enviromental, and peace activists all over nz. all you need to do is google indymedia nz and get all the links from thea thea is a global awareness day this sat to demonstrate that we will not accept the global and national war of terror being orchestrated by the 'authorites' in nz or abroad. much love and light to all nick lyons hamilton nz

24-10-2007, 12:56 AM	#2
peachped Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Soviet England Posts: 2,007	Is it to do with this? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/asia-pacific/7048487.stm Good luck with the -global awareness day this sat to demonstrate that we will not accept the global blah blah Mr Lyons. Last edited by peachped; 24-10-2007 at 01:29 AM.

24-10-2007, 10:55 PM	#5
soltru Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: hamilton Posts: 36	that is the story, its interesting to see how the international media is portraying this story and tame iti. like its the back to colonial days, and he's the native savage. in nz most know that it is bullshit. tame iti is an amazing character, he has been open honest and transparent in everything he's done for the last 20 - 30 years. which includes such a range of activities in the community, social worker, talk show host, provider of traditional maori food, and artist. extremely articulate, he has the ability to interact with the upper and lower class in nz, and around the world. but its not just maori sovereignty activists ( tino rangitiratanga) its anarchists, enviro's and peace activists, in other words its light and dark skinned people. cheers nick Last edited by soltru; 24-10-2007 at 11:00 PM.

24-10-2007, 11:49 PM	#6
peachped Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Soviet England Posts: 2,007	It's a strange one this because as you say Nick these 'peace activists' or so called peace activists if indeed they are training for war against the white man - as reports would have us believe... At least one of them is white. Could this be an infiltrate and incite scenario in order to bring in new laws? Or did they really say those things and train to become terrorists? It doesn't make sense. http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/...300778780.html Last edited by peachped; 24-10-2007 at 11:52 PM.

02-11-2007, 02:40 AM	#8
mynameis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,553	Does New Zealand face a terror threat? By Colin Peacock Wellington, New Zealand Last Updated: Thursday, 1 November 2007, 17:41 GMT Tame Iti, pictured in 2004 Arrested Maori activist Tame Iti is regarded as non-violent After the US was attacked on 11 September 2001, governments around the world adopted new laws to combat terrorism. New Zealand was one of them. Like other nations, it wanted to be ready in case foreign terrorist groups entered the country. But it was New Zealanders who were arrested when the Terrorism Suppression Act was used for the first time. Armed police carried out raids throughout the country in the early hours of 16 October, after discovering what they said was a secret paramilitary-style training camp in a remote part of the country's north-east. Police said they seized guns, ammunition and molotov cocktails, and they even said some of those arrested had detonated a napalm bomb a week earlier. All this was shocking news in New Zealand, which has no experience of armed insurrection in its modern history. In fact it has barely had any experience of serious political violence at all. Flamboyant agitator The alleged training camp was in a region populated mainly by indigenous Maori people, whose ancestors resisted British colonialism in the 19th Century. More recently, some have backed a long-standing movement for Maori independence, but that campaign has always been a political one - and not an armed struggle. Dr Rawiri Taonui This is about scaring the community to enhance state power and restore a police force beset by scandals Dr Rawiri Taonui Canterbury University's Maori Studies school Maoris living nearby say there are no training camps and no paramilitaries in the bush there - only pig-hunters and campsites where local youths learn hunting and survival skills in summer. "It is the forest margin. It is no secret that there are scores of camps. There are some old and illegitimate guns. But they're usually more dangerous to the users," says Dr Rawiri Taonui, the head of Canterbury University's Maori Studies school. "And napalm? Fire-starting cubes, dirt and petrol and glycerol mixes are standard outdoor things. The odd idiot makes a big one, but that's a far cry from making bombs." Among those arrested on 16 October was Tame Iti, a charismatic campaigner for Maori sovereignty. He is now behind bars charged with breaking New Zealand's gun laws. He is known as a flamboyant and confrontational agitator who enjoys his notoriety, but not as a violent man. "We're very disappointed that my father's in custody," says his son Toi Iti. "But my father is not a terrorist and I believe the majority of the New Zealand public realise that." Mr Iti's detention has become the focus of Maori anger, with hundreds of people protesting at his latest court appearance, in Rotorua on 25 October. David Small I don't think there's ever even been a single molotov cocktail thrown at a riot in New Zealand David Small University of Canterbury The protesters say the armed raids were politically motivated and nothing to do with law and order. "This is about scaring the community to enhance state power and restore a police force beset by scandals," says Dr Rawiri Taonui. Raids 'necessary' However, most of those arrested were not Maoris. They were environmental and political activists from disparate groups throughout the country. Some of them have also been charged with having illegal guns, but none has yet been charged with offences under the anti-terror law that was used to authorise the raids in the first place. Consequently, most New Zealanders are finding it hard to believe that they have formed some sort of militant alliance ready for violent action. University of Canterbury academic David Small, who successfully sued the police for searching his home illegally during a security operation in 1996, says the use of the anti-terrorism law cannot be justified. "I don't think there's ever even been a single molotov cocktail thrown at a riot in New Zealand," he said. "So I would be astonished if right now a whole lot of people around the country had suddenly decided now is the time to use violence to advance a political agenda." But while opponents of the Terrorism Suppression Act are calling for it to be scrapped, the government is currently seeking to strengthen it. map Changes before parliament specify long prison sentences for terrorist acts, and put the prime minister in charge of reviewing which entities should be classed as "terrorist groups". The police are being accused of failing to distinguish between political and criminal activity. But senior officials, including Prime Minister Helen Clark, insist the pre-emptive action was justified. Following the raid, Police Minister Annette King told reporters: "I suspect if anything had happened, you would be standing here saying to me 'Why didn't the useless cops do anything about it?'" The full extent of the radical activity which prompted the controversial raids will eventually be revealed in the courts - but for now, New Zealanders are left wondering just how peaceful their traditionally calm country really is. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7062341.stm __________________ I can no longer have fair and intelligent conversation with people here, without them resorting to the use of personal attacks. I have been targeted as a scapegoat for my defensive actions. I cannot discuss new topics and stop the rampant amounts of misinformation when it happens, where it applies. If it can happen to me it can happen to you.

25-10-2007, 01:51 AM	#7
ashyr Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Anti - Christchurch Posts: 968	yeah this is definatly some massive media hype. they are just dredging this one up. i also think this is somewhat connected to or if in someway a setup for. the coming event that "Charlie Adams" was trying to expose. getting the maori to act. or re act to pressure from the white mans ways. the tuhoi are actually a soveriegn nation now i think. as of just recently. hah cool!. and also the funny thing is. that Helen Clark. (priminister) or (Government Body) funded Tame Iti to training and recruiting youths or caring and teaching young maori. funny aye. and get this the latest BLOAT scoop. is they have elivated it to include possible "Plots to assasinate Helen Clark and G w Bush" ahhah i mean comon. lol i could see it happening so easily to. heres my take on it "we all know how the Maori Haka and Movement and Primitave lifestyles are being exploited on a global scale , not just from rugby and the world cup. but even in marketing now" its kinda dumb we all know to see a haka performed or a waiata or huia,pophiri ( sorry spelling) all that stuff is mighty impressive in the flesh and is down right terrifiying in parts. and thats why its like that. to say hey. we are not as dumb as you think. and were going to draw the line here. dont cross it or we'll deal to you. simply. defending what they know. now the way its going is were all being de sensitised thru media flabber gastery. making it like a spectacle or clown like display esp with the latest addition of the throat slitting motion with the rugby haka's. couldnt you see this happening. i mean they had the perfect chance the other day. lol some mind controlled , front altar innocent big buff maori, facial tattoo's, patu in hand. doing his thing infront of "CHIEFS and DIGNITARYS" just snaps into back altar and goes "BLEH" and patu's helens crown off her head along with here scalp. VERY EASY. and they would all look along with amazement. cause they let them get that close in the first place saying. hehe look im not scared ive been to 50 marae's and the welcoming's, its just there thing see they dont mean no harm,, CLONK! imagine hilters troops reports back to base about them shitting there undys at these full face moko's tattooed young warriors with patu's and tiaha's rushing the german trenches and blugening them. the germans were so scared they had never seen anything like this. INSANE RUSH FOR FREEDOM. so yeah i read somewhere this report saying "TONGAN" and Pacific island peoples were the most softest easiest to program people. yet the problem being is there so solid in defence and foundation that once set you cant move that shit. u know what i mean . if u know about the atempted colonisation of certain areas which still hasnt happend to this day. haha suckers. i say Go the Tuhoi and Maori activist. this is such a raw deal. cant wait to see what unfolds next. He is still in prison without bail isnt he (Tame Iti)

02-11-2007, 07:17 AM	#9
optimus pigpot Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 800	[QUOTE=mynameis;169724]Who's original land was it? Looks like Murdoch propaganda strikes right off the bat.QUOTE] We have to be very careful here. Die hard White Supremacists say that "niggers" shouldn't be in the U.K. as it isn't their home. "Go back to where you belong", we hear them shout. Don't get side-tracked by this is their's and that's ours. Now that's the shit that Rupert Murdoch creates...... Message ends.........

02-11-2007, 08:39 AM	#11
optimus pigpot Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 800	Problem, reaction, solution You have still not learned from the words of the wise one you call Icke....... Problem: "They", have created Maori activists like Tame Iti by, "taking ", his land or what he thought was his land. Having the preconception that it was his land before his people reached it and therefore where did, "he", come from before he reached, "his", land and who did, "he", or, "his" ancestors take, "their", land from and so on and so on.......An issue that will never be resolved unless we all admit that it will only be solved by saying, "It belong to us all, no borders and no restrictions, no religions, no faith, no crap........" Reaction: White folk begin to get pissed off with Tame Iti...... Maori folk get pissed off with white folk....... Resentment builds.........People are arrested, get pissed off........ Solution: HELEN CLARK IMPOSES A FORM OF MARTIAL AND COURT LAW Message ends......... What fucking crap...... Answer........ Don't be fooled, just don't react......... Message double ends........

02-11-2007, 11:11 AM	#12
soltru Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: hamilton Posts: 36	its the old divide and strategy, so simple its rears its head in most larger scale conflicts, what has been significant to me is nz people's lack of outward expressions of solidarity with the people of other nations, nations that are in a much worse condition than nz, much less freedom of expression, larger gaps between those with wealth and those without, widespread social dysfunction. it takes the war of terror to come barging thru our homes for us to realise that the state and institutions of authority will attempt to further restrict our 'freedoms', even in good old clean green nz, a place many call paradise. these events must increase the people of nz's consciousness and awareness of the plight of those around the world, we must do all we can for those around the world that have much less ability to educate and empower themselves, their communties and their nations.

02-11-2007, 08:23 PM	#13
mynameis Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6,553	See my big problem with this is that Tami Iti is right, and laws are used to put people into ghettoes or steal the land they already occupy or occupied. The law and politics are not even in this fashion. Should politicians throw you off your own lands anytime they wish because they have police, an army, or laws. This is what's happening in the United States, Australia, Hawaii, South America, Africa, Philippines, and China. There are other locales I can't remember, but the point is might does not make right. __________________ I can no longer have fair and intelligent conversation with people here, without them resorting to the use of personal attacks. I have been targeted as a scapegoat for my defensive actions. I cannot discuss new topics and stop the rampant amounts of misinformation when it happens, where it applies. If it can happen to me it can happen to you.

04-11-2007, 07:59 AM	#14
ashyr Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Anti - Christchurch Posts: 968	the problem is there is no problem. I KNOW this is just a bullshit time attack. shes trying to beat G.W's record on DATONA USA. This is classic mind-cloud announcements. they repeat the trigger words. on every channel. repeat headlines and keywords. they never resolve the issue because then they can make out they have left us PUBLIC time to talk among ourselves. asif were some seperate entity from Government. The fact of the matter is. This Problem they have with the Maori. is the latest or closest to modern day. act of bullshit colonialism or musket trading. fucking bully sluts from bri-tan. plans to conquest this graceland. that everyone is still freshly remembrant of it. TIGHT ARSE CUNTS. selling guns for land? what happens when they run out of bullets? its just like the WW2 fighter bombers for germany and usa. all couldnt run without patent brand oils. but we take this shit sitting down. althought NZ are a rather bright bunch of bushmen. we can build a fort. I think if there was a fist fight between Helen Clark and G W. Helen would knock his teeth out. She's more man than he is.