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Old 13-08-2009, 11:19 PM   #21
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I saw her say that in an interview that they showed on the news. It was one of those interviews that caused quite a stirr after her death, there were a few.
I don't think that's what she meant, she meant they are inhuman, like cold, ruthless ad very arrogant family, which makes her sons not human too?

Come on lol she won't say that if that was the case.
She won't try and harm her own kids.

Come on people, they are bastards, ruthless whatever you want, but this reptilian thing, is crazy.

And who said they don't die? this is an utter nonsense, they die like anybody else, except they ate clean food, clean water, the best of everything there is, the best medical treatment.
That's why they live longer, even lizards die, so this whole thing about lizards is nothing but a nice theory.

Nobody ever proved that there are lizard amongst humans, people with wild ideas, want to believe in something different, something crazy out of this world etc.. some believe in Aliens out of space, some believe we were brought here on this earth by supreme beings "Aliens" to keep us here as prisoners or whatever.

These all are theories induced into the main stream to keep us all wondering and making more wild crazy theories.
Sorry I don't buy any of it, unless someone brings me an irrefutable evidence that they do exist, until then, I'll stick to human beings, the good ones and the bad ones.

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Old 16-08-2009, 12:52 AM   #22
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Come on people, they are bastards, ruthless whatever you want, but this reptilian thing, is crazy.
But is it??

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And who said they don't die? this is an utter nonsense, they die like anybody else, except they ate clean food, clean water, the best of everything there is, the best medical treatment.
That's why they live longer, even lizards die, so this whole thing about lizards is nothing but a nice theory.
No but since they have all the knowledge and power, they can regenerate their bodes and incarnate over and over. They inbreed each other all the time and keep the family genetics "in the family" The DNA holds codes and memories of past lives, do you not think they would take advantage of that.

You simply have no idea of this, so it would be easy for you to laugh it off. Cus your quite simply lacking any ability to understand anything outside your own perception.

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Nobody ever proved that there are lizard amongst humans, people with wild ideas, want to believe in something different, something crazy out of this world etc.. some believe in Aliens out of space, some believe we were brought here on this earth by supreme beings "Aliens" to keep us here as prisoners or whatever.
And whats so outrageous about this? There is proof. But the proof is kept from you for very good reason. I would tell you this much.

I'm not going to tell you.

Your as ready as the people who are still asleep. I'm not going to wake you up, and the reppies are not gonna come out and tell you "hey were are here". They govern the society you live in. They decide what you believe, hear, see, smell and taste. The food you eat, The money you spend, the movies you watch, the buildings you live in, The religion you believe in, the job you work in, the laws you abide by, the rules you live by and the whole pyramid system that governs everything that you say and do.


I think you have to start opening your mind and stop depending on others to give you the proof. Proof is all around you. It's easily decepted because the reptiles usually are the joker or the decepter in this game. They are not going to make it easy for you to spot them. Where would the logic be in revealing it? If this is the case, why would they give up this power for you to know? The obvious is here, you just are not able to understand. Everything around is not some sort of unplanned reality. Every major city and place of interest in the world was carefully asigned and created on the occult. The Illuminati has basically hidden the upper levels of conciousness for you to remain and the bottom of the pyramid system of society. Think about it. From the time your born to the day you die, You would realise that everything you learn t was a pile of shite, for everything you did was purposeful and meant nothing. You didn't grow or evolve. You revolved around a system and you die believing in nothing. You simply lived a life believing in what you were told. So ask yourself again.

Is reptilians really a crazy theory. Or is the craziness revealed in how tricked your own mind is? lol... Wakey wakey.


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These all are theories induced into the main stream to keep us all wondering and making more wild crazy theories.
Sorry I don't buy any of it, unless someone brings me an irrefutable evidence that they do exist, until then, I'll stick to human beings, the good ones and the bad ones.

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Mainstream media don't talk about reptiles or reptilians OR the races that have visited us.

Mainstream media ridicules it so your subconscious would type the pile crap that you just wrote. For everything you say about it is mainstream and dumbed down.

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Old 16-08-2009, 01:33 AM   #23
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PRINCESS DIANA: THE EVIDENCE

‘ The Book The British Government Tried To Ban! ’

by Jon King & John Beveridge


* THE CONSPIRACY

‘Princess Diana: The Evidence’ tells how the authors were forewarned of an imminent prime-target assassination just a week before Diana’s crash in Paris, and how they subsequently discovered that:

*French paparazzo and MI6 agent James Andanson, owner of a white Fiat Uno identical to the one involved in the crash, was planning to publish compromising photographs of the crash scene in a book when he was found dead in his burnt-out car 400 miles from where he should have been.

* Princess Diana was unable to wear her seatbelt because it was “jammed in the retracted position”, according to the official UK investigation.

* The Mercedes in which Diana died, the "only available car" on the night, was stolen at gunpoint prior to the crash; its EMS – the onboard computer-chip that controls the steering and brakes – was stolen and replaced.

* The 'Boston brakes' is a known method of assassination by ‘road traffic accident' developed by the CIA and adopted by the world’s intelligence services; it involves taking over the target vehicle’s steering and brakes by remotely controlling its on-board EMS.

* Other examples of assassination by ‘road traffic accident’ have occurred over the years, and are cited in the book.

* A parallel plot to assassinate Camilla Parker Bowles was foiled in June 1997, just weeks before Diana's 'accident', when Prince Charles's mistress survived her own near-fatal 'road traffic accident'.

* The CIA and NSA possess files revealing their complicity in the operation that killed Diana; these files also reveal that the British establishment was concerned that Diana might have been pregnant with Dodi Fayed's child.

* Diana was illegally embalmed in order to cover up her possible pregnancy and the order to embalm her was given by a very senior British diplomat named in the book.


Moreover, the authors discover...

* That all CCTV cameras lining the route from the Ritz Hotel to the crash tunnel were somehow inexplicably "turned inwards" on the night Diana died; thus no video footage of the journey or the crash exists.

* That it took nearly 2 hours to get Diana to a hospital 3.25 miles from the crash scene, and that the ambulance "stopped for a further ten minutes" outside the hospital gates, having driven past at least one fully equipped hospital en route.

* That the crash tunnel was swept clean, disinfected and reopened within hours of the crash, destroying crucial forensic evidence.

* That chauffeur Henri Paul, officially blamed for Diana's death, was a part-time intelligence agent who met with his intelligence handlers hours before the crash.

* That the blood sample on which the official verdict was based was never DNA-identified, that the blood tested was stored in a phial labelled “unknown male”, and that carbon-monoxide tests concluded that the blood could not have belonged to Henri Paul.

* That two senior MI6 officers plus the Queen's Private Secretary were allegedly present in the British Embassy in Paris on the night of the crash, and that these officials ordered staff manning the communications room to leave.

* That French paparazzo, part-time MI6 agent and white Fiat Uno owner, James Andanson, who told friends he took compromising photographs in the crash tunnel and that he intended to publish them in a book, was found ‘burnt to death’ with a bullet hole in his head just weeks before his photographic archive was stolen at gunpoint by three armed raiders. The photographs would never be seen again.

* That Diana's butler, Paul Burrell, was ordered by one of Diana's closest friends to burn the princess's blood-stained clothes immediately they arrived back in London, destroying crucial forensic evidence.


Excerpts:

“Don’t meddle in things that you know nothing about because you know accidents can happen.”

Former British Armed Forces Minister and personal friend of Prince Charles, Nicholas Soames MP, from an alleged telephone conversation with Diana on her return from Angola, 1997, just weeks before her death.


* “This particular phase in my life is the most dangerous. My husband is planning an accident in my car, brake failure and serious head injury, in order to make the path clear for Charles to marry.”

Princess Diana, November 1995.


* “Prince Philip wants to see me dead.”

Princess Diana, November 1995 [Operation Paget Report, page 108].


* “I am a threat in their eyes. They only use me when they need me for official functions and then they drop me again in the darkness… they are not going to kill me by poisoning me or in a big plane where others will get hurt. They will either do it when I am on a small plane, in a car when I am driving or in a helicopter.”

Princess Diana, speaking to friend Roberto Devorik, August 1996.


* “Dear Simone, as you know, the brakes of my car have been tampered with. If something does happen to me it will be MI5 or MI6 who will have done it. Lots of love, Diana.”

Princess Diana, in a note to friend Simone Simmons, 1995.


* “Diana told me personally, during a holiday in the South of France, that the person who is spearheading these threats is Prince Philip … She told me it would happen either in a helicopter or a car.”

Mohamed Al Fayed, October, 2003.


* Princess Diana/Jorg Haider Deaths Correlations...
RIP, Lady D .
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Old 16-08-2009, 01:36 AM   #24
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I posted in this thread, but deleted it and made it its own thread called Ultimate Ritual Horror, because I felt it was a little too off-topic.

But not off-topic enough for me not to link it here instead. You know, in honor of the fact this thread sparked it.

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77680
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Old 16-08-2009, 02:21 AM   #25
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But is it??
Yes it is

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No but since they have all the knowledge and power, they can regenerate their bodes and incarnate over and over. They inbreed each other all the time and keep the family genetics "in the family" The DNA holds codes and memories of past lives, do you not think they would take advantage of that.
They are not reptilians, they are greedy human beings, they keep the blood line they keep it within the family.

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You simply have no idea of this, so it would be easy for you to laugh it off. Cus your quite simply lacking any ability to understand anything outside your own perception.
Can you please stop addressing people as if they just dropped out of a tree?
I am not lacking of any ability, I don't believe in things because you said so, I believe when I see evidence, I haven't seen any evidence of reptilians, so don't talk down to people as if you know it all, it's a theory full stop, which ever way you cut it, it's still a bloody theory.



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And whats so outrageous about this? There is proof. But the proof is kept from you for very good reason. I would tell you this much.
If the proof is kept from you how do you know then?
I don't believe in things without solid evidence, you want to believe it go ahead, but not me.
I believe it when I see it, for now I stick to humans bad humans and good ones.

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I'm not going to tell you.
I know, first I never asked you to tell me anything, second I know you can't tell me either, because you don't have anything to tell me.

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Your as ready as the people who are still asleep. I'm not going to wake you up, and the reppies are not gonna come out and tell you "hey were are here". They govern the society you live in. They decide what you believe, hear, see, smell and taste. The food you eat, The money you spend, the movies you watch, the buildings you live in, The religion you believe in, the job you work in, the laws you abide by, the rules you live by and the whole pyramid system that governs everything that you say and do.
Ok we have awake, we don't need to wake up, keep an eye out for us
tell me lol who do you think you are? Really?
The people who govern the society are nothing but a greedy ruthless human beings, what you're stating above, I knew that for nearly 30 years now.
So you're not teaching me something new, I have told you that before.


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I think you have to start opening your mind and stop depending on others to give you the proof. Proof is all around you. It's easily decepted because the reptiles usually are the joker or the decepter in this game.
I am not waiting for anyone to give me anything, if there was any proof I would have found it, I have done an extensive research on the subject.

Nothing but wild theories, my mind was open as I said before since I was 15, one thing I am not is a gullible.
You know, you still haven't said anything all your arguments are based on abstract, never something concrete.

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They are not going to make it easy for you to spot them. Where would the logic be in revealing it? If this is the case, why would they give up this power for you to know? The obvious is here, you just are not able to understand. Everything around is not some sort of unplanned reality. Every major city and place of interest in the world was carefully asigned and created on the occult. The Illuminati has basically hidden the upper levels of conciousness for you to remain and the bottom of the pyramid system of society.
Listen, listen very carefully, I have known all of these things you're talking about, and I am pretty sure, I knew them way before you did.
You keep talking to people as if they are all idiots and you're the only individual who's aware, the truth my man, is that you just discovered this new line of belief and you're confused completely confused.
You don't know who's who, who's done what.
Yes we know of the upper level of consciousness, we know they hid things from us, we know they changed facts, they changed history, they control most things, but one thing is they are not Reptilians, they are corrupt humans just like you.

I get really bored when you state the obvious, do you think you're the only one who knows about the pyramid? do you think you're the only one who knows about the Illuminatis, the Elite, how they are running the show?

But they are not aliens, they are not reptilians, they are just bad corrupt humans.
and it's been going on for thousands of years.

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Think about it. From the time your born to the day you die, You would realise that everything you learn t was a pile of shite, for everything you did was purposeful and meant nothing. You didn't grow or evolve. You revolved around a system and you die believing in nothing. You simply lived a life believing in what you were told. So ask yourself again.

Is reptilians really a crazy theory. Or is the craziness revealed in how tricked your own mind is? lol... Wakey wakey.
I have thought about it believe me before I met way before I met you, I didn't wait to meet you to tell me to look around and see what is happening.
Yes this is a crazy theory nothing more and nothing less.

It's like most other theories, when you can't prove something it remains a theory.
Yes I lived a life believing what I was told, and then I searched for myself and found out what I am believing now.
What I found, nobody gave it to me, I had to dig it out, one thing I don't do is follow, I make my own rational judgement, I don't care how many people believe in something, if it doesn't make sense to me I won't believe it, and especially if no evidence is presented.

So please spare me the lecture, on how I should think, what I should or should not believe, I am not, I know a lot more about the subject than you'll ever grasp.

Go and read about the blood line, maybe you need to take a look at this.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/index.htm

There are hundreds of books and thorough researchers out there who have done this for 30 plus years, articles from various investigators around the world who have done a great job in exposing these people.



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Mainstream media don't talk about reptiles or reptilians OR the races that have visited us.
Now you're taking the piss aren't you?
the Media? Me listen to the media?
I stopped listening to the media years and years and years ago lol, you see when I say you always state the bleeding obvious lool
Maybe you don't know who you're really talking to, I even stopped talking about this subject, I have spend years of my life finding out about this whole conspiracy that goes back to the ancient Egypt, Babylon etc...

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Mainstream media ridicules it so your subconscious would type the pile crap that you just wrote. For everything you say about it is mainstream and dumbed down.
Yeah anyone who doesn't share your pile of crap, is talking shit, what happened to your pile of crap?

You want to convince me? provide me with your evidence, not some videos done by someone else, I want to see real evidence of the reptilians.
If you can't present any evidence, then stop lecturing us.

This is one of the things I disagree with David Icke on.
And not just david Icke for that matter, quite a few people I read over the years, They never provided any evidence nothing but theories.

Speculations, the same thing goes for the so called Aliens, People saw UFO's or thought they saw them, we know since the mid 40s secret weapons and transportation have been developped secretly and hidden away from the general public.

Area 51 and so on, but it doesn't mean they are Aliens, they are just humans like you and me.

There are a lot of things you ought to look at and stop thinking you know it all, because you will end up knowing absolutely nothing, the biggest mistake anyone can make is to pretend he knows it all and the rest are asleep.

Just your ego talking nothing interesting really.

So, go out there and find out, as I said to you, theresn't one word you said here which I found new to me, I knew most of this stuff years and years ago.

Take care now.
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Old 16-08-2009, 02:37 AM   #26
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great OP, thanks

i haven't seen this transcript before
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She was also interviewed by David Frost and I saw that one. She said "They're not human you know....." in regards to the Royals.
Do you have a link to this interview? Sounds interesting.
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Yes it is
Define what makes it crazy.

Is it cus you can't see past 3-D and what the master says?
Your subconcious is in reactive mode right now. Thats why your saying it's crazy.

Subconcious has never registered or experience this reality. Therefore "crazy"

But she had said it more than a few times. She has said they are not human. You obviously have not done any research on the bloodlines and why she was picked. You probably don't even know why she was killed.

I'll give a clue to keep her mouth shut. It would be "crazy" if she did go public. She was very close to before her death. Hanging around with islamic royals obviously touched a nerve with the Merovingians

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They are not reptilians, they are greedy human beings, they keep the blood line they keep it within the family.
No your wrong again Reptilans are a negative polarity and thus need to "take" or feed on others. They are predatory and domineering. Anyone who has a high percentage of Reptillian DNA will manifest these qualities logically. They exist on many worlds and are masters of the lower dimensions. it's probably why you don't see them walking around because they have used genetics to look like you and thus deceit you.

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Can you please stop addressing people as if they just dropped out of a tree?
I am not lacking of any ability, I don't believe in things because you said so, I believe when I see evidence, I haven't seen any evidence of reptilians, so don't talk down to people as if you know it all, it's a theory full stop, which ever way you cut it, it's still a bloody theory.

You certainly have a square mind about things. Try circle, makes things more open to perception. It's not a theory. It's just hidden.

Like I could hide a bar behind the curtains. Just because I don't show you doesn't mean by theory it's there.




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If the proof is kept from you how do you know then?
I don't believe in things without solid evidence, you want to believe it go ahead, but not me.
I don't rely on the system. You do know you can tap into the brain where there are many active tools to help you discern the truth. We are programmed not to use them. It would be stupid of me to tell you. Put it this way. Humanity is a transition period of where we are here to grow out of puberty. Some of you are going to take longer with this.

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I believe it when I see it, for now I stick to humans bad humans and good ones.
lol. square thinking.





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Ok we have awake, we don't need to wake up, keep an eye out for us
tell me lol who do you think you are? Really?
The people who govern the society are nothing but a greedy ruthless human beings, what you're stating above, I knew that for nearly 30 years now.
So you're not teaching me something new, I have told you that before.
Well after 30 years you still don't get it. You can go to school and keep retaining for another 30 years. Still won't get anywhere, because you haven't even asked the obvious questions that need answers. You affirm by the reptiles. They hide behind human faces and you spent 30 years believing this reality??

Cough, ahem COUGH.



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I am not waiting for anyone to give me anything, if there was any proof I would have found it, I have done an extensive research on the subject.
Your not a child, you have to grow up and figure it out by yourself.

This is something you have to do, nobody else.
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Nothing but wild theories, my mind was open as I said before since I was 15, one thing I am not is a gullible.
You know, you still haven't said anything all your arguments are based on abstract, never something concrete.
Ah yes concrete, you want a concrete casted reptile given to you by a reptile signed by Donalds Rumsfeld.

Seriously get a grip. For an inter dimensional channeler as myself and someone who can see the bigger reality past this world. I am going to tell you, that your wasting your time thinking the illlusionists is going to spoil this show and tell you hes running the show. Why would they do that?

The puppet masters don't reveal themselves, thats why they have puppets.

Basic cop on and common sense


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Listen, listen very carefully, I have known all of these things you're talking about, and I am pretty sure, I knew them way before you did.
You keep talking to people as if they are all idiots and you're the only individual who's aware, the truth my man, is that you just discovered this new line of belief and you're confused completely confused.
You don't know who's who, who's done what.
Yes we know of the upper level of consciousness, we know they hid things from us, we know they changed facts, they changed history, they control most things, but one thing is they are not Reptilians, they are corrupt humans just like you.
They are mixed race like you. Reptillians are humanoids. Homo sapiens is a blend of all fallen ones. Fallen ones means all the humanoid beings that did intervene with our evolution since the beginning of time.

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I get really bored when you state the obvious, do you think you're the only one who knows about the pyramid? do you think you're the only one who knows about the Illuminati, the Elite, how they are running the show?
I state the obvious on purpose. You need it a lot, since your so cot up with the mainstream crap. It's like a deprogram.


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But they are not aliens, they are not reptilians, they are just bad corrupt humans.
and it's been going on for thousands of years.
You abviously don't know anything of this at this stage Cough.


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I have thought about it believe me before I met way before I met you, I didn't wait to meet you to tell me to look around and see what is happening.
Yes this is a crazy theory nothing more and nothing less.
You haven't thought about it. You thought about this at a distance and put it back up on the shelf and affirmed your subconscious with this.

"to unbelievable it's crazy to believe that lets put this away now"


Done.. Thats what you do all the time. So you can keep the concious mind going with all the horseshite your told to believe in. Keep it normal. Hands on approach. It's all delusional.


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Yes I lived a life believing what I was told, and then I searched for myself and found out what I am believing now.
lol.
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What I found, nobody gave it to me, I had to dig it out, one thing I don't do is follow, I make my own rational judgement, I don't care how many people believe in something, if it doesn't make sense to me I won't believe it, and especially if no evidence is presented.
Go look for evidence and stop RElying on others.
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So please spare me the lecture, on how I should think, what I should or should not believe, I am not, I know a lot more about the subject than you'll ever grasp.
Start with you. You have to start with you. and YOU HAVE A LOT of work to do.



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I stopped listening to the media years and years and years ago lol, you see when I say you always state the bleeding obvious lool
Maybe you don't know who you're really talking to, I even stopped talking about this subject, I have spend years of my life finding out about this whole conspiracy that goes back to the ancient Egypt, Babylon etc...
You still haven't found the answer have you.

30 years and your still struggling.

You have to be doing something wrong.

I gave you the first step, you start with you. Find out whats within you. It's up to you whether you take my advice or not. If you don't I promise you will be coming back to me in 30 years time wishing you did take this advice. Any good luck with this.


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You want to convince me? provide me with your evidence, not some videos done by someone else, I want to see real evidence of the reptilians.
If you can't present any evidence, then stop lecturing us.
Nobody needs to convince you.

You need to convince you. It is your responsibility to use the vehicle you were given. You haven't used it that well if you still cant find the truth after 30 years. But I want you to find the truth, but I cannot make you or show you how. You have to do it. You have to realise that something is not working if you still feel like this after 30 years.

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This is one of the things I disagree with David Icke on.
And not just david Icke for that matter, quite a few people I read over the years, They never provided any evidence nothing but theories.
He did provide evidence. LOT's of it.

You just want a reptillian to jump out and sign you an autograph. Like the child who wants walk before it crawls. Btw I don't think any race of beings behind the show is going to be a special guest of David icke if your looking for this retarded way of gaining proof. It was never designed to be easy for you.


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Speculations, the same thing goes for the so called Aliens, People saw UFO's or thought they saw them, we know since the mid 40s secret weapons and transportation have been developped secretly and hidden away from the general public.
I seen alien spaceships and seeen amazing things in my life. I realise there is more to life than this reality and this matrix. If I seen intergalactic travellers touching down right in front of me. I would say "I was expecting you". For I know that nothing in this world is a mere concidence. Your just not ready for the truth for you don't even know how to find the truth.

Life is teaming out there. You don't know because your not meant to know yet. I have seen some spectacular things in the sky at night. I stargaze most nights for relaxation. So I am smart enough to know what goes on above and below. I don't even need to tell people what I saw. For what I saw is between me and the stars.
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Area 51 and so on, but it doesn't mean they are Aliens, they are just humans like you and me.
So,

I don't differenciate humans and aliens.

You are so lost.

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There are a lot of things you ought to look at and stop thinking you know it all, because you will end up knowing absolutely nothing, the biggest mistake anyone can make is to pretend he knows it all and the rest are asleep.
I know what I know quite well. What I don't know, I am not meant to know right now. But awareness is the key for my knowing.
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Just your ego talking nothing interesting really.
Nope Adbasque remember now your stepping off of line now with the attacks.

I have never brought anything onto myself or bring myself into a discussion to talk about me in any capacity. We are discussing this topic.

What age are you. I'm serious. Is this the sort of reaction you pose on people a lot.


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So, go out there and find out, as I said to you, theresn't one word you said here which I found new to me, I knew most of this stuff years and years ago.

Take care now.
You retained thats what you did.
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She was also interviewed by David Frost and I saw that one. She said "They're not human you know....." in regards to the Royals.
Was it not the 1995 Panorama Martin Bashir Interview?


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The Panorama Princess Diana Interview

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This is a transcript of the BBC1 Panorama interview with the Princess of Wales, broadcast in November 1995
MARTIN BASHIR: Your Royal Highness, how prepared were you for the pressures that came with marrying into the Royal Family?

DIANA: At the age of 19, you always think you're prepared for everything, and you think you have the knowledge of what's coming ahead. But although I was daunted at the prospect at the time, I felt I had the support of my husband-to-be.

BASHIR: What were the expectations that you had for married life?

DIANA: I think like any marriage, specially when you've had divorced parents like myself, you'd want to try even harder to make it work and you don't want to fall back into a pattern that you've seen happen in your own family.

"I want to reassure all those people who have loved me and supported me throughout the last 15 years that I'd never let them down."

I desperately wanted it to work, I desperately loved my husband and I wanted to share everything together, and I thought that we were a very good team.

BASHIR: How aware were you of the significance of what had happened to you? After all, you'd become Princess of Wales, ultimately with a view to becoming Queen.

DIANA: I wasn't daunted, and am not daunted by the responsibilities that that role creates. It was a challenge, it is a challenge.

As for becoming Queen, it's, it was never at the forefront of my mind when I married my husband: it was a long way off that thought.

The most daunting aspect was the media attention, because my husband and I, we were told when we got engaged that the media would go quietly, and it didn't; and then when we were married they said it would go quietly and it didn't; and then it started to focus very much on me, and I seemed to be on the front of a newspaper every single day, which is an isolating experience, and the higher the media put you, place you, is the bigger the drop.

And I was very aware of that.

BASHIR: How did you handle the transition from being Lady Diana Spencer to the most photographed, the most talked-about, woman in the world?

DIANA: Well, it took a long time to understand why people were so interested in me, but I assumed it was because my husband had done a lot of wonderful work leading up to our marriage and our relationship.

But then I, during the years you see yourself as a good product that sits on a shelf and sells well, and people make a lot of money out of you.

BASHIR: It's been suggested in some newspapers that you were left largely to cope with your new status on your own. Do you feel that was your experience?

DIANA: Yes I do, on reflection. But then here was a situation which hadn't ever happened before in history, in the sense that the media were everywhere, and here was a fairy story that everybody wanted to work.

And so it was, it was isolating, but it was also a situation where you couldn't indulge in feeling sorry for yourself: you had to either sink or swim. And you had to learn that very fast.

BASHIR: And what did you do?

DIANA: I swam. We went to Alice Springs, to Australia, and we went and did a walkabout, and I said to my husband: `What do I do now?'

And he said, `Go over to the other side and speak to them.' I said, `I can't, I just can't.'

He said, `Well, you've got to do it.' And he went off and did his bit, and I went off and did my bit. It practically finished me off there and then, and I suddenly realised - I went back to our hotel room and realised the impact that, you know, I had to sort myself out.

We had a six-week tour - four weeks in Australia and two weeks in New Zealand - and by the end, when we flew back from New Zealand, I was a different person. I realised the sense of duty, the level of intensity of interest, and the demanding role I now found myself in.

BASHIR: Were you overwhelmed by the pressure from people initially?

DIANA: Yes, I was very daunted because as far as I was concerned I was a fat, chubby, 20-year-old, 21-year-old, and I couldn't understand the level of interest.

BASHIR: At this early stage, would you say that you were happily married?

DIANA: Very much so. But, the pressure on us both as a couple with the media was phenomenal, and misunderstood by a great many people.

We'd be going round Australia, for instance, and all you could hear was, oh, she's on the other side. Now, if you're a man, like my husband a proud man, you mind about that if you hear it every day for four weeks. And you feel low about it, instead of feeling happy and sharing it.

BASHIR: When you say `she's on the other side', what do you mean?

DIANA: Well, they weren't on the right side to wave at me or to touch me.

BASHIR: So they were expressing a preference even then for you rather than your husband?

DIANA: Yes - which I felt very uncomfortable with, and I felt it was unfair, because I wanted to share.

BASHIR: But were you flattered by the media attention particularly?

DIANA: No, not particularly, because with the media attention came a lot of jealousy, a great deal of complicated situations arose because of that.

BASHIR: At this early stage in your marriage, what role did you see for yourself as Princess of Wales? Did you have an idea of the role that you might like to fulfil?

DIANA: No, I was very confused by which area I should go into. Then I found myself being more and more involved with people who were rejected by society - with, I'd say, drug addicts, alcoholism, battered this, battered that - and I found an affinity there.

And I respected very much the honesty I found on that level with people I met, because in hospices, for instance, when people are dying they're much more open and more vulnerable, and much more real than other people. And I appreciated that.

BASHIR: Had the Palace given any thought to the role that you might have as Princess of Wales?

DIANA: No, no one sat me down with a piece of paper and said: `This is what is expected of you.' But there again, I'm lucky enough in the fact that I have found my role, and I'm very conscious of it, and I love being with people.

BASHIR: So you very much created the role that you would pursue for yourself really? That was what you did?

DIANA: I think so. I remember when I used to sit on hospital beds and hold people's hands, people used to be sort of shocked because they said they'd never seen this before, and to me it was quite a normal thing to do.

And when I saw the reassurance that an action like that gave, I did it everywhere, and will always do that.

BASHIR: It wasn't long after the wedding before you became pregnant. What was your reaction when you learnt that the child was a boy?

DIANA: Enormous relief. I felt the whole country was in labour with me. Enormous relief.

But I had actually known William was going to be a boy, because the scan had shown it, so it caused no surprise.

BASHIR: Had you always wanted to have a family?

DIANA: Yes, I came from a family where there were four of us, so we had enormous fun there.

And then William and Harry arrived - fortunately two boys, it would have been a little tricky if it had been two girls - but that in itself brings the responsibilities of bringing them up, William's future being as it is, and Harry like a form of a back-up in that aspect.

BASHIR: How did the rest of the Royal Family react when they learnt that the child that you were to have was going to be a boy?

DIANA: Well, everybody was thrilled to bits. It had been quite a difficult pregnancy - I hadn't been very well throughout it - so by the time William arrived it was a great relief because it was all peaceful again, and I was well for a time.

Then I was unwell with post-natal depression, which no one ever discusses, post-natal depression, you have to read about it afterwards, and that in itself was a bit of a difficult time. You'd wake up in the morning feeling you didn't want to get out of bed, you felt misunderstood, and just very, very low in yourself.

BASHIR: Was this completely out of character for you?

DIANA: Yes, very much so. I never had had a depression in my life.

But then when I analysed it I could see that the changes I'd made in the last year had all caught up with me, and my body had said: `We want a rest.'

BASHIR: So what treatment did you actually receive?

DIANA: I received a great deal of treatment, but I knew in myself that actually what I needed was space and time to adapt to all the different roles that had come my way. I knew I could do it, but I needed people to be patient and give me the space to do it.

BASHIR: When you say all of the different roles that had come your way, what do you mean?

DIANA: Well, it was a very short space of time: in the space of a year my whole life had changed, turned upside down, and it had its wonderful moments, but it also had challenging moments. And I could see where the rough edges needed to be smoothed.

BASHIR: What was the family's reaction to your post-natal depression?

DIANA: Well maybe I was the first person ever to be in this family who ever had a depression or was ever openly tearful. And obviously that was daunting, because if you've never seen it before how do you support it?

BASHIR: What effect did the depression have on your marriage?

DIANA: Well, it gave everybody a wonderful new label - Diana's unstable and Diana's mentally unbalanced. And unfortunately that seems to have stuck on and off over the years.

BASHIR: Are you saying that that label stuck within your marriage?

DIANA: I think people used it and it stuck, yes.

BASHIR: According to press reports, it was suggested that it was around this time things became so difficult that you actually tried to injure yourself.

DIANA: Mmm. When no one listens to you, or you feel no one's listening to you, all sorts of things start to happen.

For instance you have so much pain inside yourself that you try and hurt yourself on the outside because you want help, but it's the wrong help you're asking for. People see it as crying wolf or attention-seeking, and they think because you're in the media all the time you've got enough attention, inverted commas.

But I was actually crying out because I wanted to get better in order to go forward and continue my duty and my role as wife, mother, Princess of Wales.

So yes, I did inflict upon myself. I didn't like myself, I was ashamed because I couldn't cope with the pressures.

BASHIR: What did you actually do?

DIANA: Well, I just hurt my arms and my legs; and I work in environments now where I see women doing similar things and I'm able to understand completely where they're coming from.

BASHIR: What was your husband's reaction to this, when you began to injure yourself in this way?

DIANA: Well, I didn't actually always do it in front of him. But obviously anyone who loves someone would be very concerned about it.

BASHIR: Did he understand what was behind the physical act of hurting yourself, do you think?

DIANA: No, but then not many people would have taken the time to see that.

BASHIR: Were you able to admit that you were in fact unwell, or did you feel compelled simply to carry on performing as the Princess of Wales?

DIANA: I felt compelled to perform. Well, when I say perform, I was compelled to go out and do my engagements and not let people down and support them and love them.

And in a way by being out in public they supported me, although they weren't aware just how much healing they were giving me, and it carried me through.

BASHIR: But did you feel that you had to maintain the public image of a successful Princess of Wales?

DIANA: Yes I did, yes I did.

BASHIR: The depression was resolved, as you say, but it was subsequently reported that you suffered bulimia. Is that true?

DIANA: Yes, I did. I had bulimia for a number of years. And that's like a secret disease.

You inflict it upon yourself because your self-esteem is at a low ebb, and you don't think you're worthy or valuable. You fill your stomach up four or five times a day - some do it more - and it gives you a feeling of comfort.

It's like having a pair of arms around you, but it's temporarily, temporary. Then you're disgusted at the bloatedness of your stomach, and then you bring it all up again.

And it's a repetitive pattern which is very destructive to yourself.

BASHIR: How often would you do that on a daily basis?

DIANA: Depends on the pressures going on. If I'd been on what I call an awayday, or I'd been up part of the country all day, I'd come home feeling pretty empty, because my engagements at that time would be to do with people dying, people very sick, people's marriage problems, and I'd come home and it would be very difficult to know how to comfort myself having been comforting lots of other people, so it would be a regular pattern to jump into the fridge.

It was a symptom of what was going on in my marriage.

I was crying out for help, but giving the wrong signals, and people were using my bulimia as a coat on a hanger: they decided that was the problem - Diana was unstable.

BASHIR: Instead of looking behind the symptom at the cause.

DIANA: Uh,uh.

BASHIR: What was the cause?

DIANA: The cause was the situation where my husband and I had to keep everything together because we didn't want to disappoint the public, and yet obviously there was a lot of anxiety going on within our four walls.

BASHIR: Do you mean between the two of you?

DIANA: Uh,uh.

BASHIR: And so you subjected yourself to this phase of bingeing and vomiting?

DIANA: You could say the word subjected, but it was my escape mechanism, and it worked, for me, at that time.

BASHIR: Did you seek help from any other members of the Royal Family?

DIANA: No. You, you have to know that when you have bulimia you're very ashamed of yourself and you hate yourself, so - and people think you're wasting food - so you don't discuss it with people.

And the thing about bulimia is your weight always stays the same, whereas with anorexia you visibly shrink. So you can pretend the whole way through. There's no proof.

BASHIR: When you say people would think you were wasting food, did anybody suggest that to you?

DIANA: Oh yes, a number of times.

BASHIR: What was said?

DIANA: Well, it was just, `I suppose you're going to waste that food later on?' And that was pressure in itself. And of course I would, because it was my release valve.

BASHIR: How long did this bulimia go on for?

DIANA: A long time, a long time. But I'm free of it now.

BASHIR: Two years, three years?

DIANA: Mmm. A little bit more than that.

BASHIR: According to reports in the national press, it was at around this time that you began to experience difficulties in your marriage, in your relationship to the Prince of Wales. Is that true?

DIANA: Well, we were a newly-married couple, so obviously we had those pressures too, and we had the media, who were completely fascinated by everything we did.

And it was difficult to share that load, because I was the one who was always pitched out front, whether it was my clothes, what I said, what my hair was doing, everything - which was a pretty dull subject, actually, and it's been exhausted over the years - when actually what we wanted to be, what we wanted supported was our work, and as a team.

BASHIR: What effect did the press interest in you have on your marriage?

DIANA: It made it very difficult, because for a situation where it was a couple working in the same job - we got out the same car, we shook the same hand, my husband did the speeches, I did the handshaking - so basically we were a married couple doing the same job, which is very difficult for anyone, and more so if you ve got all the attention on you.

We struggled a bit with it, it was very difficult; and then my husband decided that we do separate engagements, which was a bit sad for me, because I quite liked the company.

But, there again, I didn't have the choice.

BASHIR: So it wasn't at your request that you did that on your own?

DIANA: Not at all, no.

BASHIR: The biography of the Prince of Wales written by Jonathan Dimbleby, which as you know was published last year, suggested that you and your husband had very different outlooks, very different interests. Would you agree with that?

DIANA: No. I think we had a great deal of interest - we both liked people, both liked country life, both loved children, work in the cancer field, work in hospices.

But I was portrayed in the media at that time, if I remember rightly, as someone, because I hadn't passed any O-levels and taken any A-levels, I was stupid.

And I made the grave mistake once of saying to a child I was thick as a plank, in order to ease the child's nervousness, which it did. But that headline went all round the world, and I rather regret saying it.

BASHIR: The Prince of Wales, in the biography, is described as a great thinker, a man with a tremendous range of interests. What did he think of your interests?

DIANA: Well, I don't think I was allowed to have any. I think that I've always been the 18-year-old girl he got engaged to, so I don't think I've been given any credit for growth. And, my goodness, I've had to grow.

BASHIR: Explain what you mean when you say that.

DIANA: Well, er...

BASHIR: When you say, when you say you were never given any credit, what do you mean?

DIANA: Well anything good I ever did nobody ever said a thing, never said, `well done', or `was it OK?' But if I tripped up, which invariably I did, because I was new at the game, a ton of bricks came down on me.

BASHIR: How did you cope with that?

DIANA: Well obviously there were lots of tears, and one could dive into the bulimia, into escape.

BASHIR: Some people would find that difficult to believe, that you were left so much to cope on your own, and that the description you give suggests that your relationship with your husband was not very good even at that early stage.

DIANA: Well, we had unique pressures put upon us, and we both tried our hardest to cover them up, but obviously it wasn't to be.

BASHIR: Around 1986, again according to the biography written by Jonathan Dimbleby about your husband, he says that your husband renewed his relationship with Mrs Camilla Parker-Bowles. Were you aware of that?

DIANA: Yes I was, but I wasn't in a position to do anything about it.

BASHIR: What evidence did you have that their relationship was continuing even though you were married?

DIANA: Oh, a woman's instinct is a very good one.

BASHIR: Is that all?

DIANA: Well, I had, obviously I had knowledge of it.

BASHIR: From staff?

DIANA: Well, from people who minded and cared about our marriage, yes.

BASHIR: What effect did that have on you?

DIANA: Pretty devastating. Rampant bulimia, if you can have rampant bulimia, and just a feeling of being no good at anything and being useless and hopeless and failed in every direction.

BASHIR: And with a husband who was having a relationship with somebody else?

DIANA: With a husband who loved someone else, yes.

BASHIR: You really thought that?

DIANA: Uh,uh. I didn't think that, I knew it.

BASHIR: How did you know it?

DIANA: By the change of behavioural pattern in my husband; for all sorts of reasons that a woman's instinct produces; you just know.

It was already difficult, but it became increasingly difficult.

BASHIR: In the practical sense, how did it become difficult?

DIANA: Well, people were - when I say people I mean friends, on my husband's side - were indicating that I was again unstable, sick, and should be put in a home of some sort in order to get better. I was almost an embarrassment.

BASHIR: Do you think he really thought that?

DIANA: Well, there's no better way to dismantle a personality than to isolate it.

BASHIR: So you were isolated?

DIANA: Uh,uh, very much so.

BASHIR: Do you think Mrs Parker-Bowles was a factor in the breakdown of your marriage?

DIANA: Well, there were three of us in this marriage, so it was a bit crowded.

BASHIR: You're effectively living separate lives, yet in public there's this appearance of this happily married royal couple. How was this regarded by the Royal Family?

DIANA: I think everybody was very anxious because they could see there were complications but didn't want to interfere, but were there, made it known that they were there if required.

BASHIR: Do you think it was accepted that one could live effectively two lives - one in private and one in public?

DIANA: No, because again the media was very interested about our set-up, inverted commas; when we went abroad we had separate apartments, albeit we were on the same floor, so of course that was leaked, and that caused complications.

But Charles and I had our duty to perform, and that was paramount.

BASHIR: So in a sense you coped with this, these two lives, because of your duty?

DIANA: Uh,uh. And we were a very good team in public; albeit what was going on in private, we were a good team.

BASHIR: Some people would find that difficult to reconcile.

DIANA: Well, that's their problem. I know what it felt like.

BASHIR: The Queen described 1992 as her `annus horribilis', and it was in that year that Andrew Morton's book about you was published. Did you ever meet Andrew Morton or personally help him with the book?

DIANA: I never met him, no.

BASHIR: Did you ever personally assist him with the writing of his book?

DIANA: A lot of people saw the distress that my life was in, and they felt it was a supportive thing to help in the way that they did.

BASHIR: Did you allow your friends, your close friends, to speak to Andrew Morton?

DIANA: Yes, I did. Yes, I did.

BASHIR: Why?

DIANA: I was at the end of my tether. I was desperate.

I think I was so fed up with being seen as someone who was a basket-case, because I am a very strong person and I know that causes complications in the system that I live in.

BASHIR: How would a book change that?

DIANA: I don't know. Maybe people have a better understanding, maybe there's a lot of women out there who suffer on the same level but in a different environment, who are unable to stand up for themselves because their self-esteem is cut into two. I don't know.

BASHIR: What effect do you think the book had on your husband and the Royal Family?

DIANA: I think they were shocked and horrified and very disappointed.

BASHIR: Can you understand why?

DIANA: I think Mr Dimbleby's book was a shock to a lot of people and disappointment as well.

BASHIR: What effect did Andrew Morton's book have on your relationship with the Prince of Wales?

DIANA: Well, what had been hidden - or rather what we thought had been hidden - then became out in the open and was spoken about on a daily basis, and the pressure was for us to sort ourselves out in some way.

Were we going to stay together or were we going to separate? And the word separation and divorce kept coming up in the media on a daily basis.

BASHIR: What happened after the book was published?

DIANA: Well, we struggled along. We did our engagements together. And in our private life it was obviously turbulent.

BASHIR: Did things come to a head?

DIANA: Yes, slowly, yes. My husband and I, we discussed it very calmly.

We could see what the public were requiring. They wanted clarity of a situation that was obviously becoming intolerable.

BASHIR: So what happened?

DIANA: So we got the lawyers together, we discussed separation - obviously there were a lot of people to discuss it with: the Prime Minister, Her Majesty - and then it moved itself, so to speak.

BASHIR: By the December of that year, as you say, you'd agreed to a legal separation. What were your feelings at the time?

DIANA: Deep, deep, profound sadness. Because we had struggled to keep it going, but obviously we'd both run out of steam.

And in a way I suppose it could have been a relief for us both that we'd finally made our minds up. But my husband asked for the separation and I supported it.

BASHIR: It was not your idea?

DIANA: No. Not at all. I come from a divorced background, and I didn't want to go into that one again.

BASHIR: What happened next?

DIANA: We, I asked my husband if we could put the announcement out before the children came back from school for Christmas holidays because they were protected in the school they were at.

And he did that, and it came out on December 9th. I was on an engagement up north.

I heard it on the radio, and it was just very, very sad. Really sad. The fairy tale had come to an end, and most importantly our marriage had taken a turn, different turn.

BASHIR: Did you tell your children that you were going to separate?

DIANA: Yes. I went down a week beforehand, and explained to them what was happening.

And they took it as children do - lots of questions - and I hoped I was able to reassure them. But, who knows?

BASHIR: What effect do you think the announcement had on them?

DIANA: I think the announcement had a huge effect on me and Charles, really, and the children were very much out of it, in the sense that they were tucked away at school.

BASHIR: Once the separation had occurred, moving to 1993, what happened during that period?

DIANA: People's agendas changed overnight. I was now separated wife of the Prince of Wales, I was a problem, I was a liability (seen as), and how are we going to deal with her? This hasn't happened before.

BASHIR: Who was asking those questions?

DIANA: People around me, people in this environment, and ...

BASHIR: The royal household?

DIANA: People in my environment, yes, yes.

BASHIR: And they began to see you as a problem?

DIANA: Yes, very much so, uh,uh.

BASHIR: How did that show itself?

DIANA: By visits abroad being blocked, by things that had come naturally my way being stopped, letters going, that got lost, and various things.

BASHIR: So despite the fact that your interest was always to continue with your duties, you found that your duties were being held from you?

DIANA: Yes. Everything changed after we separated, and life became very difficult then for me.

BASHIR: Who was behind that change?

DIANA: Well, my husband's side were very busy stopping me.

BASHIR: What was your reaction when news broke of allegedly a telephone conversation between you and Mr James Gilbey having been recorded?

DIANA: I felt very protective about James because he'd been a very good friend to me and was a very good friend to me, and I couldn't bear that his life was going to be messed up because he had the connection with me.

And that worried me. I'm very protective about my friends.

BASHIR: Did you have the alleged telephone conversation?

DIANA: Yes we did, absolutely we did. Yup, we did.

BASHIR: On that tape, Mr Gilbey expresses his affection for you. Was that transcript accurate?

DIANA: Yes. I mean he is a very affectionate person.

But the implications of that conversation were that we'd had an adulterous relationship, which was not true.

BASHIR: Have you any idea how that conversation came to be published in the national press?

DIANA: No, but it was done to harm me in a serious manner, and that was the first time I'd experienced what it was like to be outside the net, so to speak, and not be in the family.

BASHIR: What do you think the purpose was behind it?

DIANA: It was to make the public change their attitude towards me.

It was, you know, if we are going to divorce, my husband would hold more cards than I would - it was very much a poker game, chess game.

BASHIR: There were also a series of telephone calls which allegedly were made by you to a Mr Oliver Hoare. Did you make what were described as nuisance phone calls?

DIANA: I was reputed to have made 300 telephone calls in a very short space of time which, bearing in mind my lifestyle at that time, made me a very busy lady.

No, I didn't, I didn't.

But that again was a huge move to discredit me, and very nearly did me in, the injustice of it, because I did my own homework on that subject, and consequently found out that a young boy had done most of them.

But I read that I'd done them all. Mr Hoare told me that his lines were being tapped by the local police station. He said, you know, don't ring. So I didn't, but somebody clearly did.

BASHIR: Had you made any of those calls at all?

DIANA: I used to, yes, I had rung up, yes.

BASHIR: Once, twice, three times?

DIANA: I don't know. Over a period of six to nine months, a few times, but certainly not in an obsessive manner, no.

BASHIR: Do you really believe that a campaign was being waged against you?

DIANA: Yes I did, absolutely, yeah.

BASHIR: Why?

DIANA: I was the separated wife of the Prince of Wales, I was a problem, fullstop. Never happened before, what do we do with her?

BASHIR: Can't we pack her off to somewhere quietly rather than campaign against her?

DIANA: She won't go quietly, that's the problem. I'll fight to the end, because I believe that I have a role to fulfil, and I've got two children to bring up.

BASHIR: By the end of 1993 you had suffered persistent difficulties with the press - these phone conversations were made public - and you decided to withdraw from public life. Why did you do that?

DIANA: The pressure was intolerable then, and my job, my work was being affected.

I wanted to give 110% to my work, and I could only give 50. I was constantly tired, exhausted, because the pressure was just, it was so cruel.

So I thought the only way to do it was to stand up and make a speech and extract myself before I started disappointing and not carrying out my work.

It was my decision to make that speech because I owed it to the public to say that, you know, `thank you. I'm disappearing for a bit, but I'll come back.'

BASHIR: It wasn't very long before you did come back, of course.

DIANA: Well, I don't know. I mean, I did a lot of work, well, underground, without any media attention, so I never really stopped doing it.

I just didn't do every day out and about, I just couldn't do it.

You know, the campaign at that point was being successful, but it did surprise the people who were causing the grief - it did surprise them when I took myself out of the game.

They hadn't expected that. And I'm a great believer that you should always confuse the enemy.

BASHIR: Who was the enemy?

DIANA: Well, the enemy was my husband's department, because I always got more publicity, my work was more, was discussed much more than him.

And, you know, from that point of view I understand it. But I was doing good things, and I wanted to good things. I was never going to hurt anyone, I was never going to let anyone down.

BASHIR: But you really believe that it was out of jealousy that they wanted to undermine you?

DIANA: I think it was out of fear, because here was a strong woman doing her bit, and where was she getting her strength from to continue?

BASHIR: What was your reaction to your husband's disclosure to Jonathan Dimbleby that he had in fact committed adultery?

DIANA: Well, I was totally unaware of the content of the book, and actually saw it on the news that night that it had come out, and my first concern was to the children, because they were able to understand what was coming out, and I wanted to protect them.

But I was pretty devastated myself. But then I admired the honesty, because it takes a lot to do that.

BASHIR: In what sense?

DIANA: Well, to be honest about a relationship with someone else, in his position - that's quite something.

BASHIR: How did you handle this with the children?

DIANA: I went to the school and put it to William, particularly, that if you find someone you love in life you must hang on to it and look after it, and if you were lucky enough to find someone who loved you then one must protect it.

William asked me what had been going on, and could I answer his questions, which I did.

He said, was that the reason why our marriage had broken up?

And I said, well, there were three of us in this marriage, and the pressure of the media was another factor, so the two together were very difficult.

But although I still loved Papa I couldn't live under the same roof as him, and likewise with him.

BASHIR: What effect do you think it had on Prince William?

DIANA: Well, he's a child that's a deep thinker, and we don't know for a few years how it's gone in. But I put it in gently, without resentment or any anger.

BASHIR: Looking back now, do you feel at all responsible for the difficulties in your marriage?

DIANA: Mmm. I take full responsibility, I take some responsibility that our marriage went the way it did. I'll take half of it, but I won't take any more than that, because it takes two to get in this situation.

BASHIR: But you do bear some of the responsibility?

DIANA: Absolutely, we both made mistakes.

BASHIR: Another book that was published recently concerned a Mr James Hewitt, in which he claimed to have had a very close relationship with you, from about 1989 I think. What was the nature of your relationship?

DIANA: He was a great friend of mine at a very difficult, yet another difficult time, and he was always there to support me, and I was absolutely devastated when this book appeared, because I trusted him, and because, again, I worried about the reaction on my children.

And, yes, there was factual evidence in the book, but a lot of it was, comes from another world, didn't equate to what happened.

BASHIR: What do you mean?

DIANA: Well, there was a lot of fantasy in that book, and it was very distressing for me that a friend of mine, who I had trusted, made money out of me. I really minded about that.

And he'd rung me up 10 days before it arrived in the bookshops to tell me that there was nothing to worry about, and I believed him, stupidly.

And then when it did arrive the first thing I did was rush down to talk to my children. And William produced a box of chocolates and said, `Mummy, I think you've been hurt. These are to make you smile again.' So...

BASHIR: Did your relationship go beyond a close friendship?

DIANA: Yes it did, yes.

BASHIR: Were you unfaithful?

DIANA: Yes, I adored him. Yes, I was in love with him. But I was very let down.

BASHIR: How would you describe your life now? You do live very much on your own, don't you?

DIANA: Yes, I don't mind that actually. You know, people think that at the end of the day a man is the only answer. Actually, a fulfilling job is better for me. (LAUGHTER)

BASHIR: What do you mean by that?

DIANA: Well, I mean any gentleman that's been past my door, we've instantly been put together in the media and all hell's broken loose, so that's been very tough on the male friends I've had, and obviously from my point of view.

BASHIR: Does that mean that you feel that for the rest of your life you'll have to be on your own?

DIANA: No, I'm not really on my own. I've got wonderful friends, I've got my boys, I've got my work.

It's just by living at Kensington Palace obviously it is a little bit isolating, but, you know, maybe we all feel like that.

BASHIR: How do you feel about the way the press behaves towards you now?

DIANA: I still to this day find the interest daunting and phenomenal, because I actually don't like being the centre of attention.

When I have my public duties, I understand that when I get out the car I'm being photographed, but actually it's now when I go out of my door, my front door, I'm being photographed.

I never know where a lens is going to be.

A normal day would be followed by four cars; a normal day would come back to my car and find six freelance photographers jumping around me.

Some people would say, Well, if you had a policeman it would make it easier. It doesn't at all.

They've decided that I'm still a product, after 15, 16 years, that sells well, and they all shout at me, telling me that: `Oh, come on, Di, look up. If you give us a picture I can get my children to a better school.'

And, you know, you can laugh it off. But you get that the whole time. It's quite difficult.

BASHIR: Some people would say that in the early years of your marriage you were partly responsible for encouraging the press interest - you danced with people like Wayne Sleep, you seemed to enjoy it, you had a very good and warm relationship.

Do you feel any responsibility for the way the press have behaved towards you?

DIANA: I've never encouraged the media. There was a relationship which worked before, but now I can't tolerate it because it's become abusive and it's harassment.

But I don't want to be seen to be indulging in self-pity. I'm not.

I understand they have a job to do. You could equate it to a soap opera really. It goes on and on and on, and the story never changes.

And each time one enjoys oneself - albeit it's in a different situation - you have to pay for it, because people criticise, which comes with the patch, as I said previously.

But I am a free spirit - unfortunately for some.

BASHIR: But here at Kensington Palace, are you isolated?

DIANA: Well I am by the nature of my situation, yes, but I don't feel sorry for myself in any way.

I've got my work that I choose to do, and I've got my boys, and I've got lots of opportunities coming up in the next year - visits abroad: I'm about to go to Argentina, which I'm very happy with, and hope very much to continue the good relationship that's now been adopted between the two countries. I hope I can be of help there.

BASHIR: What role do you see for yourself in the future?

DIANA: I'd like to be an ambassador for this country. I'd like to represent this country abroad.

As I have all this media interest, let's not just sit in this country and be battered by it. Let's take them, these people, out to represent this country and the good qualities of it abroad.

When I go abroad we've got 60 to 90 photographers, just from this country, coming with me, so let's use it in a productive way, to help this country.

BASHIR: You say you feel that your future is as some form of ambassador. At whose behest is that? On what grounds do you feel that you have the right to think of yourself as an ambassador.

DIANA: I've been in a privileged position for 15 years. I've got tremendous knowledge about people and how to communicate. I've learnt that, I've got it, and I want to use it.

And when I look at people in public life, I'm not a political animal but I think the biggest disease this world suffers from in this day and age is the disease of people feeling unloved, and I know that I can give love for a minute, for half an hour, for a day, for a month, but I can give - I'm very happy to do that and I want to do that.

BASHIR: Do you think that the British people are happy with you in your role?

DIANA: I think the British people need someone in public life to give affection, to make them feel important, to support them, to give them light in their dark tunnels.

I see it as a possibly unique role, and yes, I've had difficulties, as everybody has witnessed over the years, but let's now use the knowledge I've gathered to help other people in distress.

BASHIR: Do you think you can?

DIANA: I know I can, I know I can, yes.

BASHIR: Up until you came into this family, the monarchy seemed to enjoy an unquestioned position at the heart of British life. Do you feel that you're at all to blame for the fact that survival of the monarchy is now a question that people are asking?

DIANA: No, I don't feel blame. I mean, once or twice I've heard people say to me that, you know, `Diana's out to destroy the monarchy', which has bewildered me, because why would I want to destroy something that is my children's future.

I will fight for my children on any level in order for them to be happy and have peace of mind and carry out their duties.

But I think what concerns me most of all about how people discuss the monarchy is they become indifferent, and I think that is a problem, and I think that should be sorted out, yes.

BASHIR: When you say indifferent, what do you mean?

DIANA: They don't care. People don't care any more. They've been so force-fed with marital problems, whatever, whatever, whatever, that they're fed up.

I'm fed up of reading about it. I'm in it, so God knows what people out there must think.

BASHIR: Do you think the monarchy needs to adapt and to change in order to survive?

DIANA: I understand that change is frightening for people, especially if there's nothing to go to. It's best to stay where you are. I understand that.

But I do think that there are a few things that could change, that would alleviate this doubt, and sometimes complicated relationship between monarchy and public. I think they could walk hand in hand, as opposed to be so distant.

BASHIR: What are you doing to try and effect some kind of change?

DIANA: Well, with William and Harry, for instance, I take them round homelessness projects, I ve taken William and Harry to people dying of Aids - albeit I told them it was cancer - I ve taken the children to all sorts of areas where I'm not sure anyone of that age in this family has been before.

And they have a knowledge - they may never use it, but the seed is there, and I hope it will grow because knowledge is power.

BASHIR: What are you hoping that that experience for your children - what impact that experience will have on your children?

DIANA: I want them to have an understanding of people's emotions, people's insecurities, people's distress, and people's hopes and dreams.

BASHIR: What kind of monarchy do you anticipate?

DIANA: I would like a monarchy that has more contact with its people - and I don't mean by riding round bicycles and things like that, but just having a more in-depth understanding.

And I don't say that as a criticism to the present monarchy: I just say that as what I see and hear and feel on a daily basis in the role I have chosen for myself.

BASHIR: There's a lot of discussion at the moment about how matters between yourself and the Prince of Wales will be resolved. There's even the suggestion of a divorce between you. What are your thoughts about that?

DIANA: I don't want a divorce, but obviously we need clarity on a situation that has been of enormous discussion over the last three years in particular.

So all I say to that is that I await my husband's decision of which way we are all going to go.

BASHIR: If he wished a divorce to go through, would you accept that?

DIANA: I would obviously discuss it with him, but up to date neither of us has discussed this subject, though the rest of the world seems to have.

BASHIR: Would it be your wish to divorce?

DIANA: No, it's not my wish.

BASHIR: Why? Wouldn't that resolve matters?

DIANA: Why would it resolve matters?

BASHIR: It would provide the clarity that you talk about, it would resolve matters as far as the public are concerned perhaps.

DIANA: Yes, but what about the children? Our boys - that's what matters, isn't it?

BASHIR: Do you think you will ever be Queen?

DIANA: No, I don't, no.

BASHIR: Why do you think that?

DIANA: I'd like to be a queen of people's hearts, in people's hearts, but I don't see myself being Queen of this country. I don't think many people will want me to be Queen.

Actually, when I say many people I mean the establishment that I married into, because they have decided that I'm a non-starter.

BASHIR: Why do you think they've decided that?

DIANA: Because I do things differently, because I don't go by a rule book, because I lead from the heart, not the head, and albeit that's got me into trouble in my work, I understand that. But someone's got to go out there and love people and show it.

BASHIR: Do you think that because of the way you behave that's precluded you effectively from becoming Queen?

DIANA: Yes, well not precluded me. I wouldn't say that. I just don't think I have as many supporters in that environment as I did.

BASHIR: You mean within the Royal Household?

DIANA: Uh,uh. They see me as a threat of some kind, and I'm here to do good: I'm not a destructive person.

BASHIR: Why do they see you as a threat?

DIANA: I think every strong woman in history has had to walk down a similar path, and I think it's the strength that causes the confusion and the fear.

Why is she strong? Where does she get it from? Where is she taking it?

Where is she going to use it? Why do the public still support her? When I say public, you go and do an engagement and there's a great many people there.

BASHIR: Do you think the Prince of Wales will ever be King?

DIANA: I don't think any of us know the answer to that. And obviously it's a question that's in everybody's head. But who knows, who knows what fate will produce, who knows what circumstances will provoke?

BASHIR: But you would know him better than most people. Do you think he would wish to be King?

DIANA: There was always conflict on that subject with him when we discussed it, and I understood that conflict, because it's a very demanding role, being Prince of Wales, but it's an equally more demanding role being King.

And being Prince of Wales produces more freedom now, and being King would be a little bit more suffocating. And because I know the character I would think that the top job, as I call it, would bring enormous limitations to him, and I don't know whether he could adapt to that.

BASHIR: Do you think it would make more sense in the light of the marital difficulties that you and the Prince of Wales have had if the position of monarch passed directly to your son Prince William?

DIANA: Well, then you have to see that William's very young at the moment, so do you want a burden like that to be put on his shoulders at such an age? So I can't answer that question.

BASHIR: Would it be your wish that when Prince William comes of age that he were to succeed the Queen rather than the current Prince of Wales?

DIANA: My wish is that my husband finds peace of mind, and from that follows others things, yes.

BASHIR: Why have you decided to give this interview now? Why have you decided to speak at this time?

DIANA: Because we will have been separated three years this December, and the perception that has been given of me for the last three years has been very confusing, turbulent, and in some areas I'm sure many, many people doubt me.

And I want to reassure all those people who have loved me and supported me throughout the last 15 years that I'd never let them down. That is a priority to me, along with my children.

BASHIR: And so you feel that by speaking out in this way you'll be able to reassure the people?

DIANA: Uh,uh. The people that matter to me - the man on the street, yup, because that's what matters more than anything else.

BASHIR: Some people might think - some people might interpret this as you simply taking the opportunity to get your own back on your husband.

DIANA: I don't sit here with resentment: I sit here with sadness because a marriage hasn't worked.

I sit here with hope because there's a future ahead, a future for my husband, a future for myself and a future for the monarchy.

BASHIR: Your Royal Highness, thank you.
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Define what makes it crazy.
Because I see it as the new age indoctrination, the new way to mislead some people such as yourself.
There is another dimension where we can exist as spirits, energy, after we leave this biological suit.
That's all there's to it, awarness is to be aware on what's going on at the control level, because if you take any of these people's dna, you will find nothing but human dna, the same as anybody else, you want to believe in fantasies, go right ahead, but to me it's not the case

I have asked you to show me some evidence, if you can't then we should leave it at this.

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Is it cus you can't see past 3-D and what the master says?
Your subconcious is in reactive mode right now. Thats why your saying it's crazy.
I have no masters, my Master is God and nobody else.
If you want to believe in them as your masters, it's your own belief not mine.

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Subconcious has never registered or experience this reality. Therefore "crazy"
Not because of the sunconscious has never registered, it's because it has no foundations, it's still a theory, anything that has not yet been proved, is a theory, look it up.

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But she had said it more than a few times. She has said they are not human. You obviously have not done any research on the bloodlines and why she was picked. You probably don't even know why she was killed.
Look I really hate repeating things, you don't seem to read or to acknowledge what I am saying, I told you that I have done an extensive research about the bloodline way way before most of people even knew there were rulers on this planet.
Here again, you're patronising me, I know exactly why she was killed and by whom.
Let me ask you a question then, why do you think she was killed and why on the 31/8/97?
I'll let you dig into this and we'll see how much you can find out, and we'll see how much awarness you really have, I am telling the 31/8/97 has a great significance.

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I'll give a clue to keep her mouth shut. It would be "crazy" if she did go public. She was very close to before her death. Hanging around with islamic royals obviously touched a nerve with the Merovingians
Yes to keep her mouth shut, and for another reason, this was not the only reason why she was killed.


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No your wrong again Reptilans are a negative polarity and thus need to "take" or feed on others. They are predatory and domineering. Anyone who has a high percentage of Reptillian DNA will manifest these qualities logically. They exist on many worlds and are masters of the lower dimensions. it's probably why you don't see them walking around because they have used genetics to look like you and thus deceit you.
I am not wrong.

If that was the case, how did you see them then? Have you got some extra terrestrial powers?
You see in your posts, I don't like the tone of the way you patronise others, you don't even have anything to back your claims with.
Only you talking about your own fantasy world, you haven't yet proved anything, have you?
You're constantly placing yourself above everyone else, but you know that nothing you're saying is been proved not even close, anyone can come out with a wild theories and there are hundreds of crazy theories.
Until you do have any proof then you can show it to me, otherwise I just want to leave it at this, I have no interest in more unfounded theories.


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You certainly have a square mind about things. Try circle, makes things more open to perception. It's not a theory. It's just hidden.
I don't have a square mind, I know what I know, not because someone doesn't adhere to your own beliefs it means we have a closed mind.
How can you make someone believe in something? By providing a stack of evidence, being generous, I haven't asked for a stack, I only asked for some evidence, which you or anyone out there, is unable to provide at this point.

Until you do, we can talk

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Like I could hide a bar behind the curtains. Just because I don't show you doesn't mean by theory it's there.
Yes, until it's proven it will remain a theory, although hiding a bar is more likely to be acceptable than hybrids.
It is not impossible, but it doesn't exist yet, it has to be done scientifically in labs.




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I don't rely on the system. You do know you can tap into the brain where there are many active tools to help you discern the truth. We are programmed not to use them. It would be stupid of me to tell you. Put it this way. Humanity is a transition period of where we are here to grow out of puberty. Some of you are going to take longer with this.
You can partition a human brain if you know how, that's not new, you can programme several parts of a human brain, to do or react to a specific programme.
This is not new concept, it has been done before, it's like creating a multiple personalities within the same subject, have you noticed, I didn't use the term person? Do you know why?
See you're patronising us again, you and the rest of us, you somewhere up there in the 11th dimension and the rest of us on ground level maybe underground?


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lol. square thinking.
Whatever, I am not getting into these little games.


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Well after 30 years you still don't get it. You can go to school and keep retaining for another 30 years. Still won't get anywhere, because you haven't even asked the obvious questions that need answers. You affirm by the reptiles. They hide behind human faces and you spent 30 years believing this reality??
You make a lot of assumptions, where did you get this from now? where did I mention school?
Everything in your post is a patronising tactic, Listen you don't know me, you don't know anything about me, you don't know what I did in my life, so my advice is cool down a little, you want to impress someone, do it with an identifiable facts and evidence, not with tons of abstract and theories.
The problem is, a lot of people nowdays suddenly discovered all the various dimension, discovered this whole new concept (To them) so they are mixing things up, and ultemately the inevitable happened, too much information all at once can screw a human mind.

And the result is that people get completely lost

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Cough, ahem COUGH.
Take some coughing syrup it might help



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Your not a child, you have to grow up and figure it out by yourself.


This is something you have to do, nobody else.
Thanks for reminding me what I am, in my book this is called, I can't give you any evidence because there aren't any, which then proves I might be talking nonsense

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Ah yes concrete, you want a concrete casted reptile given to you by a reptile signed by Donalds Rumsfeld.
Donald Rumsfeld is not more of a reptile than you and me, yes if he can show me some evidence of him being a reptile, then I will believe it, and it won't be a theory anymore, don't you think?

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Seriously get a grip. For an inter dimensional channeler as myself and someone who can see the bigger reality past this world. I am going to tell you, that your wasting your time thinking the illlusionists is going to spoil this show and tell you hes running the show. Why would they do that?
I think you need to get a grip, you're detaching from the real life, one day you will wake up or get tired from all of this, and realise that you have wasted a lot of time, in a complete nonsense, except you can't go back in time.

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The puppet masters don't reveal themselves, thats why they have puppets.
And you think you're the only person who knows that? What this has to do with reptiles?
I think you either got confused by DI, or watched a lot of the TV series V in the 80s, I don't know your real age but if you're a middle aged man, you must've watched a lot of that series.

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Basic cop on and common sense
Well my common sense tells me otherwise, why should I follow your common sense?


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They are mixed race like you. Reptillians are humanoids. Homo sapiens is a blend of all fallen ones. Fallen ones means all the humanoid beings that did intervene with our evolution since the beginning of time.
You don't really need to explain this to me, I know what it means, but what I am asking you, is provide me with some evidence, I have read about this stuff, years ago believe me, it was a theory back then and it's still is today, it hasn't moved an inche lol.


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I state the obvious on purpose. You need it a lot, since your so cot up with the mainstream crap. It's like a deprogram.
Again, more assumptions?
I am not caught up in any main stream, if living for you is the main stream yes, I am caught up in it, which means I am living.
If you had to prove their existence in order to put them behind bars, are you going to come up with evidence or talk for hours about what you perceive to be a reality? Your reality isn't necessarily mine, it will become mine when you convince me with real hard evidence.




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You abviously don't know anything of this at this stage Cough.
More assumptions and more arrogance from you, I was right from the beginning, you're so full of yourself, be honest? You just can't help it?


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You haven't thought about it. You thought about this at a distance and put it back up on the shelf and affirmed your subconscious with this.
Please stop assuming things about my person, you don't know me, you don't know what I did or didn't in my life, you have to accept that people won't adhere to your own beliefs or delusion, and there are sound reasons for that.

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"to unbelievable it's crazy to believe that lets put this away now"
In plain English it means, I bored with your abstract you either show some facts or we leave it, I don't want to spend more time talking about this, there are hundred other theories out there.

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Done.. Thats what you do all the time. So you can keep the concious mind going with all the horseshite your told to believe in. Keep it normal. Hands on approach. It's all delusional.
My delusion to you is my reality, your delusion to me is your reality and that's why we leave it at that, I am willing to debate with facts, not what someone else told and you think, this is it.

You keep telling the rest of us that we believe what we've been told, the same thing applies to you and you don't see it
You came to this world knowing everything? Nobody told you anything, including this theory?

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Go look for evidence and stop RElying on others.
This is a cop out, because you can't provide any lol

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Start with you. You have to start with you. and YOU HAVE A LOT of work to do.
I have started since I reached the age of reason, since I was able to tell wrong from right, I certainly didn't wait for you or anyone else to tell me.



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You still haven't found the answer have you.
Oh no, I have found lot of answers, and the main answer, and I am happy with what I found, how about you?
I have found "The" answer, and that doesn't stop me from questioning everything, everyday of my life

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30 years and your still struggling.
Struggling? Another free assumption? struggling with what exactly?
You see, you keep talking in the air, with no substance, because that way, you think you won't be pinned down to something specific, you make your assumptions without being specific.

And that's why I get bored and tired debating with you, everything with you is floating in the air, you need to get a real grip.
It's easier to be evasive this way, well until you make sense, I will refrain discussing things with you any further, I am not being rude, but just bored.

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You have to be doing something wrong.
I will correct whatever I did wrong, it's called living, it's called being human, not super human like you.
I am not yet a superhuman like yourself

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I gave you the first step, you start with you. Find out whats within you. It's up to you whether you take my advice or not. If you don't I promise you will be coming back to me in 30 years time wishing you did take this advice. Any good luck with this.
You're really funny sometimes I must give you that LOL
You gave me a first step? You really are delusional, ok see you in 30 years time then, deal?




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Nobody needs to convince you.
Then leave it out.

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You need to convince you. It is your responsibility to use the vehicle you were given. You haven't used it that well if you still cant find the truth after 30 years. But I want you to find the truth, but I cannot make you or show you how. You have to do it. You have to realise that something is not working if you still feel like this after 30 years.
I don't need 30 years, I know something is not working, and I know what is that something I also know why it isn't working.
You can't show me how, because you don't know what you want, there's nothing there to show me, that's the sad reality.

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He did provide evidence. LOT's of it.
To you perhaps not to me, I haven't seen a shred of evidence yet.

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You just want a reptillian to jump out and sign you an autograph. Like the child who wants walk before it crawls. Btw I don't think any race of beings behind the show is going to be a special guest of David icke if your looking for this retarded way of gaining proof. It was never designed to be easy for you
And you crack it? Lol
I don't need anyone's autograph, well surely you must've seen the evidence, why don't you share it with the rest of us who are still asleep?
you're trying to help us to wake up, right? So why are you not sharing your knowledge with us then?
Instead of spending your time patronising us and insulting our intelligence?
Let me answer this, because you have nothing but empty words and fancy theories.


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I seen alien spaceships and seeen amazing things in my life. I realise there is more to life than this reality and this matrix. If I seen intergalactic travellers touching down right in front of me. I would say "I was expecting you". For I know that nothing in this world is a mere concidence. Your just not ready for the truth for you don't even know how to find the truth.
I always keep an open mind on everything, but there's a distinct difference between keeping an open mind and actually believing without and hard strong evidence, so far we haven't even weak evidence, except words of some people.
Ok when they land, then I will believe, what's the rush?
I know the truth, but not your truth.

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Life is teaming out there. You don't know because your not meant to know yet. I have seen some spectacular things in the sky at night. I stargaze most nights for relaxation. So I am smart enough to know what goes on above and below. I don't even need to tell people what I saw. For what I saw is between me and the stars.
I have seen things at night too, that doesn't mean they are Aliens, yes there are things floating in the cosmos, it's called space where things travel.
I even have a telescope, which I had for few years now.

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I don't differenciate humans and aliens.
I do
Humans are humans, Aliens means they are Aliens to us, different, not the same, nothing in common etc..
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You are so lost.
No, I am here with my feet firm on the ground, if there's one who's lost here, believe me it's you, completely lost, and everytime I talk to you I get the same impression, you really are lost between reality and fantasy.
Meaning you remain in this reality and you didn't reach the fantasy that you're making and maybe even hoping it will be real.


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I know what I know quite well. What I don't know, I am not meant to know right now. But awareness is the key for my knowing.
Nope Adbasque remember now your stepping off of line now with the attacks.
That's right you'll know in due time, if there's something to be known, time is irrelevant, you'll know if it's there and the effort you put into it to find it.
I am not stepping, I am not even attacking you, stop pointing a finger again please,
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Just your ego talking nothing interesting really.
Yes it's true, it's your ego that is talking, and nothing interesting for me there, where is the attack here, oh now come come lol

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I have never brought anything onto myself or bring myself into a discussion to talk about me in any capacity. We are discussing this topic.

What age are you. I'm serious. Is this the sort of reaction you pose on people a lot.
Maybe, but in every topic or post, you have this tendency in talking down to people, you position yourself as high as you can get, (all delusion of course) and then you start pointing fingers, you don't know, you know nothing, the patronising tones, I have shown you in this post on several occasions where you kept trying to patronise me, and yet you haven't said anything, everything you talk about is in the air, nothing to grab, that's called as hot air, this is not an attack, just an observation.

What my age has to do with anything? Why do you want to know what my age is?
It's irrelevant to this topic





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You retained thats what you did.
That's right! and I am still searching, I never stop, it's part of my existence, I retain what is true and disregard the crap, I collected over the years, the nonsense an so on..
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Because I see it as the new age indoctrination, the new way to mislead some people such as yourself.
There is another dimension where we can exist as spirits, energy, after we leave this biological suit.
That's all there's to it, awarness is to be aware on what's going on at the control level, because if you take any of these people's dna, you will find nothing but human dna, the same as anybody else, you want to believe in fantasies, go right ahead, but to me it's not the case
No, your your mind is brainwashed.

There is nothing new age about it.

Your mind is controlled by this reality and you clearly show it. You have lived a pattern of reality that is comfortable to your perception.

For anything outside it is "crazy"

You don't see it because you don't even understand the deeper aspects of you.

This is why I'm telling you to stop the bullshit and realise that anything in reality can happen and co exist without you knowing. You prove everytime of how little you really know.

You don't even know what you are or who you are. No point looking in the next door neighbors garden for answers. DNA makes you what you are. Most the secrets of your DNA is kept secret for now. That is.


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I have asked you to show me some evidence, if you can't then we should leave it at this.[/quote]

Do it yourself. I'm not your guardian. It is not my job to prove it to you. Your fucked from the system.

Since you want physical evidence, start working out what makes this reality and why you don't know the truth first.

This is intellegence. Nobody in the know is going to tell you anything. And believe me there are people out there who know it all. Don't think they are going to give the time to tell you

I wouldn't. You can't grasp the truth.

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If you want to believe in them as your masters, it's your own belief not mine.
What kind of master is he?


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Not because of the sunconscious has never registered, it's because it has no foundations, it's still a theory, anything that has not yet been proved, is a theory, look it up.
I have a book on my left hand side. You don't know its there, its not a theory. You just don't know its there.

Your not able to see reality in all its flaws. Start cleansing your chakras and start asking questions about reality. What you are, what are you doing, and what truth are you looking for.


Each time you do this. It will always come back to you. You have been tricked by your own higher self. For you made the decision to come here and experience mortality and all the deception around you. For you to find yourself again.

Its a game. The universe is infinite, there is no ending or beginning. Its a game.

Can you comprehend and contain that. I'd say you wouldn't be able too.

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Look I really hate repeating things, you don't seem to read or to acknowledge what I am saying, I told you that I have done an extensive research about the bloodline way way before most of people even knew there were rulers on this planet.
Here again, you're patronising me, I know exactly why she was killed and by whom.
You researched bloodlines great. Why was she killed so?

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Let me ask you a question then, why do you think she was killed and why on the 31/8/97?
I'll let you dig into this and we'll see how much you can find out, and we'll see how much awarness you really have, I am telling the 31/8/97 has a great significance.



Yes to keep her mouth shut, and for another reason, this was not the only reason why she was killed. She was engaged to him that day. Her death was well planned since the car was stolen a few days before. The intellegences were always monitoring her.

She was going to marry a muslim royal. It's about blood and power..


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If that was the case, how did you see them then? Have you got some extra terrestrial powers?
Yes quite simply.

No need to make it hush hush. I can dicern things more powerfully than the average joe. I have an intution that is sought after. I can predict things before they happen. I can also sense who is ill, or whos going to die etc. As a child I was able to track wherever my mum was if I got lost. I am partially deaf. My mum used to be amazed that I always knew when she would come in the room or whenever something was wrong. I didn't hear her but I knew she was there.

it's so unbelievable. Right now. It's like whoa how can I do that? Is this impossible? Can this really be true? How come? shit.


I now can to emit into the astral world and gain cosmos knowing from there. I'm learning and I will master that. I also have a strong precognition sense. I also have prophetic dreams. The final thing is I have higher guides who channel wisdom and knowledge through me. I also do automatic writing and draw symbols that are not of this world. In other words they are messages from my guides.

They come from Sirius, Acturius and Ophichus. I would consider myself to be in 4th,5th, 6th, 7th dimensional realms.

Right now I'm experiencing the perceptions of the 8th dimensions. It's all very new and many doors open. You will begin to realise the higher dimensions, when you realise the power of self awarness. This power is then tuned into understanding that they are no coincidence, time, or distance to the mind. You will see that every day is codes and like goes in sequence. Every barcode on food items, to every number you see, every bird you see, every joy, every accident or event that happens to your life. Dramatically alters your reality. But in the 3-D world you cannot see past time and distance.

its about letting go of the old 3-D format world view. As its like an old subject that has run past it's sell by date and has no use for this reality that is taking shape here and now on this planet.

The planet is changing and if you cannot see the deception and truth around you like I can you will not survive the coming changes. This is the harsh truth. Believe what you want after this. It will simply be not understood in the 3-D dimensional way. Like I want physical proof "three points of space showing space within "the fact".
Higher dimensions determine what you see in the physical reality around you. This is just a physical manifestation based on higher vibrations of energy playing this world out.

I can see and understand things far more clearly than you would in the 3-D way. But you will dissagree of course and spend the next 30 years a non believer in the powers of the unknown. You simply won't surive in this "I want proof".

For the truth is already here. You just need to let the truth set you free. All will come to you once you capture this meaning.

Jesus Christ said this a lot. One of the most profound statements any man has said. And yes it is as simple as that. It doesn't need to complicated or scientific. The less bullshit the better.

You never made a unknown a known yet that's why. You expect this to so complicated and demanding of evidence, for you don't have a system to back it up.


For example people still question life outside or planet, because they are waiting for NASA to spill the beans. So they waste all their lives waiting for the proof. But they don't actually cop on and realise the power of truth within them all along.


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You're constantly placing yourself above everyone else, but you know that nothing you're saying is been proved not even close, anyone can come out with a wild theories and there are hundreds of crazy theories.
Until you do have any proof then you can show it to me, otherwise I just want to leave it at this, I have no interest in more unfounded theories.[/quote]

You keep rabbiting about this, like its nothing.


But again I ask, what is crazy?



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I don't have a square mind, I know what I know, not because someone doesn't adhere to your own beliefs it means we have a closed mind.
How can you make someone believe in something? By providing a stack of evidence, being generous, I haven't asked for a stack, I only asked for some evidence, which you or anyone out there, is unable to provide at this point.

Until you do, we can talk
I don't I do, I don't believe, I do believe, how can i you, or them make,


You don't know yourself. That is the point.


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Yes, until it's proven it will remain a theory, although hiding a bar is more likely to be acceptable than hybrids.
It is not impossible, but it doesn't exist yet, it has to be done scientifically in labs.
No. it is proven. You just have to prove it to yourself.

There are thing below your feet you don't know anything about.
There are things above your head you don't know anything about.

Just because you can't understand that doesn't mean its theory. lol..

You just have no capability of realising what may exist outside this reality. This illusion.




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See you're patronising us again, you and the rest of us, you somewhere up there in the 11th dimension and the rest of us on ground level maybe underground?



Whatever, I am not getting into these little games.
It's no "us" or "them" I'm speaking too.

I'm speaking "to you" Let it be clear.



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Donald Rumsfeld is not more of a reptile than you and me, yes if he can show me some evidence of him being a reptile, then I will believe it, and it won't be a theory anymore, don't you think?
Reptillian bloodlines exists, you can't find out Maybe your destined to never know


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I think you need to get a grip, you're detaching from the real life, one day you will wake up or get tired from all of this, and realise that you have wasted a lot of time, in a complete nonsense, except you can't go back in time.
Whats a real life?

There goes the programmed mind of yours again.

Whats real, whats normal, whats crazy and whats not crazy.


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I think you either got confused by DI, or watched a lot of the TV series V in the 80s, I don't know your real age but if you're a middle aged man, you must've watched a lot of that series.
I'm not confused at all by Diana. Infact I'm very well aware of what was on her mind and how she was trying to survive up till before she died. She made many subtle clues. You obviously have dismissed them. She is not going to tell the simple people of the world that they are not fully human. But she gave hints.

And yet again you prove you don't have the capacity too see it.





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You don't really need to explain this to me, I know what it means, but what I am asking you, is provide me with some evidence, I have read about this stuff, years ago believe me, it was a theory back then and it's still is today, it hasn't moved an inche lol.
No you haven't moved an inch in 30 years.



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Again, more assumptions?
I am not caught up in any main stream, if living for you is the main stream yes, I am caught up in it, which means I am living.
If you had to prove their existence in order to put them behind bars, are you going to come up with evidence or talk for hours about what you perceive to be a reality? Your reality isn't necessarily mine, it will become mine when you convince me with real hard evidence.
No I'm not making assumptions you talk like someone who is mainstream. I judge people by how the percieve themselves and act. I've Observed you very closely. I'm well sure enough to know enough about you to make specific clear shots on your agenda and your opinions are stemming from. I don't just don't tell you.

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My delusion to you is my reality, your delusion to me is your reality and that's why we leave it at that, I am willing to debate with facts, not what someone else told and you think, this is it.
No the delusion, is this reality. And you are apart of this delusion. You will spend the next 30 years hoping the system will one day prove to you reptilians exists

This is the most delusional part.
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You keep telling the rest of us that we believe what we've been told, the same thing applies to you and you don't see it
You came to this world knowing everything? Nobody told you anything, including this theory?
But it goes way deeper than that. I can see you so clearly as to how you react and what you will say next.




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I have started since I reached the age of reason, since I was able to tell wrong from right, I certainly didn't wait for you or anyone else to tell me.
Wrong and right is another delusion. So when you are wrong are you a lesser person as to when your right?

You clearly are as programmed as joe the plumber. You keep saying your not in the mainstream and your so aware and everything.


Everything that comes out of your mouth is mainstream. Everything you say is determined by what the society around you says. The religion, the proof, the science and the system.






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I always keep an open mind on everything, but there's a distinct difference between keeping an open mind and actually believing without and hard strong evidence, so far we haven't even weak evidence, except words of some people.
Ok when they land, then I will believe, what's the rush?
I know the truth, but not your truth.

If you really had an open mind you wouldn't be saying that other entities and non human forms exhibit over this reality.

Since your not open minded. The programmed part of you says. No I can't process that. Its not real. its not normal. I have lived on this planet and its never happened to me. "subconcious kicks in" The computer says no its not real. I have never registered this before. No.


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I have seen things at night too, that doesn't mean they are Aliens, yes there are things floating in the cosmos, it's called space where things travel.
I even have a telescope, which I had for few years now.
But whats the deal if they are.
I seen Alien ships too. Doesn't mean any difference to me.

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I do
Humans are humans, Aliens means they are Aliens to us, different, not the same, nothing in common etc..[/quote]

So an alien with too legs have nothing in common. You are programmed clearly.

And you thought your open minded. Christ.

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No, I am here with my feet firm on the ground, if there's one who's lost here, believe me it's you, completely lost, and everytime I talk to you I get the same impression, you really are lost between reality and fantasy.
Meaning you remain in this reality and you didn't reach the fantasy that you're making and maybe even hoping it will be real.

I believe in myself and I believe in my ability to gain the truth through deception.


Since you made the first judgment.

Explain what is fantasy and what is reality?

Oh and explain to me inter dimensions too I am going to polite here. If I was rude I would tell you, that your life is fucked right now. Really fucked. You are so controlled by this reality you will fall behind the rest of us. This is my clear warning for you to wake up NOW. You actually need some electric shock to your system. Waiting 30 years is a long time.


It's time to start believing in the truth and discovering the unknown. You spent your life believing in the known.


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That's right you'll know in due time, if there's something to be known, time is irrelevant, you'll know if it's there and the effort you put into it to find it.
I am not stepping, I am not even attacking you, stop pointing a finger again please,
Yes it's true, it's your ego that is talking, and nothing interesting for me there, where is the attack here, oh now come come lol
You just did attack me.





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That's right! and I am still searching, I never stop, it's part of my existence, I retain what is true and disregard the crap, I collected over the years, the nonsense an so on..
Then you will die.

It might look like a waste of time.

You actually have to stop searching and start realsing who the hell you are. This reality was here before you and will be here long after you, no point searching for something in the woods.

Seriously like. Do you not get it?

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No, your your mind is brainwashed.

There is nothing new age about it.

Your mind is controlled by this reality and you clearly show it. You have lived a pattern of reality that is comfortable to your perception.

For anything outside it is "crazy"

You don't see it because you don't even understand the deeper aspects of you.
Like you in your delusion?
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This is why I'm telling you to stop the bullshit and realise that anything in reality can happen and co exist without you knowing. You prove everytime of how little you really know.
No matter how little I know, I am sure I do know a great deal more than you do

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You don't even know what you are or who you are. No point looking in the next door neighbors garden for answers. DNA makes you what you are. Most the secrets of your DNA is kept secret for now. That is.
You're telling what is my composition now? you? LOL
God you are full of it aren't you? please do us all a favour go and find someone else to pester, you truly bore me.



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I have asked you to show me some evidence, if you can't then we should leave it at this.
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Do it yourself. I'm not your guardian. It is not my job to prove it to you. Your fucked from the system.
You're not my guardian but you're here to pester me with your bullshit.
The truth is, I have noticed you only quote what suits you, everything I said, where you have no answers you completely ignored the other points,

because of all the bullshit you keep letting out, you have no answers. It's not the fact you're not my guardian, but the truth is you cannot provide any evidence, all you're doing is speaking from a complete delusional mind.

I didn't want to go through all the same old crap, sorry, I decided to cut it very short, have no time for your rubbish, find someone else who's willing to listen to your delusion.

The truth is, you have no idea, what is the matrix concept, what is a dimensional existence.
You have no idea what is between a spritual and physical severance.
You have no idea what is the special relativity do you?
You know what is C3 and C4 in regards to the expansion of the universe in relation with the speed of light verses the mass?

Any ideas of the cosmic laws? Can you cite a few? (Avoid google I will find out)

Click Here to further your delusion

See I have even given something to chew on

I am well aware of the kind of bull you're on about and have known for ages
now, ask yourself a question why doesn't he believe that?

Finished?
Now keep digging and one day you will reach my level of real awarness

Oh dear oh dear

I have read tons of books about your so called reality or illusion, what you need to look at about certain people who you think they are reptiles, they are simply called Jinns

Now, when you get to that level, you might just grasp the real illusion of the hyperdimension

Do you know how energy is received?
Try and look up the molecule level and how energy is channelled through
and how it's been sent back.

Do you know what I mean by hyperdimension? This is where you got lost, between the earthly 3D and the cosmic 4D
Now if you understand this concept, you will quickly understand your own frustration.

I suggest you do a lot more research and stop lecturing people, and giving advice, until you know what you're talking about, when you can back every comment with hard evidence.

sometime just a little knowledge can set you on the right tracks
Oh I nearly forgot, try to be a bit humble and less arrogant and less patronising, wisdom is the key matey.

Now, I will close this debate as I said before I am a little bored, honest.
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Like you in your delusion?

No matter how little I know, I am sure I do know a great deal more than you do


You're telling what is my composition now? you? LOL
God you are full of it aren't you? please do us all a favour go and find someone else to pester, you truly bore me.







You're not my guardian but you're here to pester me with your bullshit.
The truth is, I have noticed you only quote what suits you, everything I said, where you have no answers you completely ignored the other points,

because of all the bullshit you keep letting out, you have no answers. It's not the fact you're not my guardian, but the truth is you cannot provide any evidence, all you're doing is speaking from a complete delusional mind.

I didn't want to go through all the same old crap, sorry, I decided to cut it very short, have no time for your rubbish, find someone else who's willing to listen to your delusion.

The truth is, you have no idea, what is the matrix concept, what is a dimensional existence.
You have no idea what is between a spritual and physical severance.
You have no idea what is the special relativity do you?
You know what is C3 and C4 in regards to the expansion of the universe in relation with the speed of light verses the mass?

Any ideas of the cosmic laws? Can you cite a few? (Avoid google I will find out)

Click Here to further your delusion

See I have even given something to chew on

I am well aware of the kind of bull you're on about and have known for ages
now, ask yourself a question why doesn't he believe that?

Finished?
Now keep digging and one day you will reach my level of real awarness

Oh dear oh dear

I have read tons of books about your so called reality or illusion, what you need to look at about certain people who you think they are reptiles, they are simply called Jinns

Now, when you get to that level, you might just grasp the real illusion of the hyperdimension

Do you know how energy is received?
Try and look up the molecule level and how energy is channelled through
and how it's been sent back.

Do you know what I mean by hyperdimension? This is where you got lost, between the earthly 3D and the cosmic 4D
Now if you understand this concept, you will quickly understand your own frustration.

I suggest you do a lot more research and stop lecturing people, and giving advice, until you know what you're talking about, when you can back every comment with hard evidence.

sometime just a little knowledge can set you on the right tracks
Oh I nearly forgot, try to be a bit humble and less arrogant and less patronising, wisdom is the key matey.

Now, I will close this debate as I said before I am a little bored, honest.
The only delusion you see, is the mind covering your own eye's.

You certainly lack wisdom in practise.


I understand hyperdimension. But I don't need to research what it is by mainstream science. I only don't need this "necessity" to have it backed by a scientist. Since you got your nonsense from the system. You only understand whats has been written.

The frustration is I know you haven't accessed these dimensions yet. I hope you will though.
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Like you in your delusion?
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God you are full of it aren't you? please do us all a favour go and find someone else to pester, you truly bore me.
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You're not my guardian but you're here to pester me with your bullshit.
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because of all the bullshit you keep letting out, you have no answers. .....have no time for your rubbish, find someone else who's willing to listen to your delusion.
.....Oh I nearly forgot, try to be a bit humble and less arrogant and less patronising, wisdom is the key matey.

Now, I will close this debate as I said before I am a little bored, honest.
LOL..


mind1universe, this is adbasque, he's cool and talks a lot of sense.

adbasque, this is mind1universe, he posts ego-driven cryptic one-liners.




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what astrochicken said

please stop bickering and get back to the thread topic, thanks.
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please stop bickering and get back to the thread topic, thanks.
To be honest, I'll stop replying altogether , everyone of his posts is patronising others, as if everybody here is a fool and an idiot, if you don't buy his stuff, he has got to learn to talk to people with respect.

Yes, I'd rather stop here, I don't want the thread to be derailed.
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mind1universe, this is adbasque, he's cool and talks a lot of sense.

adbasque, this is mind1universe, he posts ego-driven cryptic one-liners.




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LOL nice to meet them both and you
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mind1universe, this is adbasque, he's cool and talks a lot of sense.

adbasque, this is mind1universe, he posts ego-driven cryptic one-liners.




LOL

Try self judgment, it speaks strenght of character in a person.


Adbasque and Astro Chicken simply show that judging others without any consequences and self judgment first, proves immaturity.
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im still trying to find that bbc interview
after her and charles divorced, princess diana said that "they"(the royals) are not human.


does anyone here remember this? or can you link or guide me to that interview?
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So far you're the one judging everybody else, especially those who don't buy your stuff, or disagree with you.

Anyone who doesn't agree with you is immature now, is he?
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