Iraq War 'Inquiry' to be Launched

wake_up_bomb · 30-07-2009, 11:09 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8175138.stm

This really is a new low. I have met thousands of people since the Iraq war began, and I have met 2 people that support it. One of them was ex-armed forces, and the other was an Iraqi who had lived under an admittedly brutal regime. I'm sure his mind could have been changed if he knew the history of the Anglo-American relationship with Saddam.

It is incredible the sheer audactiy of pretending that the 'inquiry' is for our benefit. That they're trying to get to the bottom of what happened. We already know that you lied! We already know that it's a total disaster!

The public have been almost completely sheltered from what's going on in Iraq; ie. they don't get to see any of the brutal images that appeared in "Tales from the Time Loop" for example, they don't really hear about the weaponry that is used in Iraq, and what it does to people, they don't get to hear about the catastrophe of using depleted uranium on a mass scale, the number of casualties is glossed over completely in the mainstream press, and certainly the number is never revealed to many, many times the number of people that died in 9/11, the event that precipitated this War of Terror. That's just for starters. Yet despite all the spin that's put on things, the overwhelming majority of the public know that the war is wrong, know that they've been lied to, and I would say the majority never even wanted the war to start in the first place. I would question whether 'war' is even the right word to describe what has happened, 'annihilation' would appear more accurate.

The only possible reason to have an 'inquiry' is to whitewash the government's responsiblity, and desperately try to prop up the official conspiracy theory, that Iraq was invaded to bring democracy to a rogue state. Does anyone actually believe that any more? Does anyone believe that a panel consisting of Sir John Chilcot, Sir Roderick Lyne, Sir Martin Gilbert, Sir Lawrence Freedman and Baroness Prashar is going to do anything other than protect the establishment? If it's not enough of a joke already, then what about Gordon Brown's statement that they will not seek to 'apportion blame', and that he wanted the whole thing to take place in private. And no-one's taking an oath, so they're completely free to lie without even the usual implications of a courtroom trial.

What a joke.

yozhik · 30-07-2009, 11:25 AM

An inquiry with;
1. No goal for finding who was responsible for what.
2. Total privacy and no public record.
3. No oath.

That's not an inquiry.
That's a conversation amongst friends.

Why waste tax payers' money on something they probably do at "the club" on a regular basis anyway?

turbine · 30-07-2009, 12:10 PM

We all know what will happen.

1. Public announcement of an inquiry.
2. Figure heads called up
3. Secrets talks that the public won't be part of
4. Same conclusion as last time.
5. Evil bastards get away with it all.

whizzer · 30-07-2009, 01:00 PM

It's all one big lie and it both saddens me and p*sses me off! and they say the inquiry may last till 2012 WTF! it's nonsense..they are laughing at us!

30-07-2009, 11:09 AM	#1
wake_up_bomb Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 6,985	Iraq War 'Inquiry' to be Launched http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8175138.stm This really is a new low. I have met thousands of people since the Iraq war began, and I have met 2 people that support it. One of them was ex-armed forces, and the other was an Iraqi who had lived under an admittedly brutal regime. I'm sure his mind could have been changed if he knew the history of the Anglo-American relationship with Saddam. It is incredible the sheer audactiy of pretending that the 'inquiry' is for our benefit. That they're trying to get to the bottom of what happened. We already know that you lied! We already know that it's a total disaster! The public have been almost completely sheltered from what's going on in Iraq; ie. they don't get to see any of the brutal images that appeared in "Tales from the Time Loop" for example, they don't really hear about the weaponry that is used in Iraq, and what it does to people, they don't get to hear about the catastrophe of using depleted uranium on a mass scale, the number of casualties is glossed over completely in the mainstream press, and certainly the number is never revealed to many, many times the number of people that died in 9/11, the event that precipitated this War of Terror. That's just for starters. Yet despite all the spin that's put on things, the overwhelming majority of the public know that the war is wrong, know that they've been lied to, and I would say the majority never even wanted the war to start in the first place. I would question whether 'war' is even the right word to describe what has happened, 'annihilation' would appear more accurate. The only possible reason to have an 'inquiry' is to whitewash the government's responsiblity, and desperately try to prop up the official conspiracy theory, that Iraq was invaded to bring democracy to a rogue state. Does anyone actually believe that any more? Does anyone believe that a panel consisting of Sir John Chilcot, Sir Roderick Lyne, Sir Martin Gilbert, Sir Lawrence Freedman and Baroness Prashar is going to do anything other than protect the establishment? If it's not enough of a joke already, then what about Gordon Brown's statement that they will not seek to 'apportion blame', and that he wanted the whole thing to take place in private. And no-one's taking an oath, so they're completely free to lie without even the usual implications of a courtroom trial. What a joke.

30-07-2009, 11:25 AM	#2
yozhik Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Privately Posts: 11,438	An inquiry with; 1. No goal for finding who was responsible for what. 2. Total privacy and no public record. 3. No oath. That's not an inquiry. That's a conversation amongst friends. Why waste tax payers' money on something they probably do at "the club" on a regular basis anyway? __________________ Anarchism stands for liberation of the human mind from the dominion of religion; the liberation of the human body from the dominion of property; liberation from shackles and restraint of government. It stands for social order based on the free grouping of individuals. It [...] maintains that God, the State, and society are non-existent, that their promises are null and void, since they can be fulfilled only through man's subordination. - Emma Goldman

30-07-2009, 12:10 PM	#3
turbine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK Posts: 285	We all know what will happen. 1. Public announcement of an inquiry. 2. Figure heads called up 3. Secrets talks that the public won't be part of 4. Same conclusion as last time. 5. Evil bastards get away with it all.

30-07-2009, 01:00 PM	#4
whizzer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 254	It's all one big lie and it both saddens me and p*sses me off! and they say the inquiry may last till 2012 WTF! it's nonsense..they are laughing at us!