|30-06-2009, 03:58 PM||#1|
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: England again - thank fu*k
Unmasking the mysterious 7/7 conspiracy theorist
maybe they are getting a little concerned about how many are catching on?
|30-06-2009, 04:24 PM||#2|
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: South Wales
Yeah we have another thread for this...
Just seen the clip.
It's a typical Ad Homimem attack on the man not the FACTS
|30-06-2009, 04:29 PM||#3|
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They're really hyping up the anti-Muslim hate, aren't they?
And this part is a bit telling:
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|30-06-2009, 05:10 PM||#6|
Join Date: Jun 2009
How can you expect BROWN's BROADCASTING CORP to do anything other than toe the party line.
Anyone on the BBC who steps out of line loses their place at the trough.
Brown has a relaunch every week on the BBC - it is like flogging a dead horse. But they are paid to back Brown and therefore dont have the right to say no.
The BBC is a mind controlled set of people - if you ever meet any of them you would spot it right away. Free thinkers are actively kept at arms length from their programmes or discredited or ridiculed.
This programme will backfire because once people start examining the evidence they will start seeing the flaws in the official story. There needs to be a Public Enquiry into the event.
|30-06-2009, 05:33 PM||#7|
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|30-06-2009, 10:14 PM||#8|
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Unmasking the mysterious 7/7 conspiracy theorist
Tracking down the man behind 7/7 Ripple Effect
In the absence of a public inquiry into the 7 July bombings, conspiracy theories have filled the vacuum. One of the more inflammatory involves a man hiding behind an Arabic-sounding pseudonym taken from a sci-fi film starring Sting, says the BBC's Mike Rudin.
The 56-minute homemade documentary opens with a view from space and the words: "A message from Muad Dib".
What follows is a stream of allegations about the 2005 bomb attack on London. The film, entitled 7/7 Ripple Effect, accuses former prime minister Tony Blair, the government, the police and the British and Israeli security service of murdering the innocent people who died that day, in order to shore up support for the "war on terror".
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The Conspiracy Files 7/7 is broadcast on BBC Two on Tuesday 30 June at 2100 BST
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The video has become an internet hit, hailed by conspiracy theorists and picked up by some Muslims in the UK as evidence that the official account of what happened that day is untrue.
The official version says four British Muslims blew themselves up in the UK's first suicide attacks, murdering 52 people and injuring 784 others.
But it took nearly a year for the official account to be published, and much of the evidence, such as CCTV and photographs, only came out slowly afterwards.
In that atmosphere conspiracy theories have flourished. A host of internet films now claim the government account is a deception.
Grab from 7/7 Ripple Effect
The film mixes real footage and content from the internet
7/7 Ripple Effect, released two years after the attacks, goes much further than just posing questions.
The narrator alleges the four men blamed for the bombings were in fact fall guys in a government plot to win support for the war on terror; they were tricked into travelling to London with rucksacks on that day.
CCTV that shows them arriving in London was supposedly just to incriminate them. The film claims that they were not on the trains that blew up.
It's alleged the three men blamed for the Tube bombings were in fact murdered by police at Canary Wharf, after government agents set off pre-planted explosives to frame them.
Muad Dib's conspiracy video has been picked up and held up as truth. A copy of his film was sent to a survivor of the attacks and to the Chairman of the Birmingham Central Mosque, Dr Mohammed Naseem.
He has long harboured doubts about the government account. "The Ripple Effect is more convincing than the government statement," he says.
Dr Naseem made 2,000 copies of 7/7 Ripple Effect for the mosque. At Friday prayers he asked the congregation to raise their hands if they did not accept the government version - nearly the entire gathering did.
Muad Dib hangs much of his conspiracy theory on the fact that on 7 July 2005, there was a mock exercise preparing for a possible terror attack on the London underground, with a very similar scenario to what happened - three London stations. This he describes as "an unbelievable set of circumstances".
If people in mosques think the government is so antagonistic that they're willing to frame them for a monstrous crime, what does that do to levels of trust?
7/7 survivor Rachel North
But Peter Power, a former Scotland Yard police officer, says on 7 July, the exercise he ran was office-based and involved just six people from a publishing company.
That has not stopped him receiving hate mail from anonymous sceptics accusing him of "murder" and threatening "justice" with "no mercy".
Muad Dib did not send Peter Power a copy of 7/7 Ripple Effect, but when it was showed it to him, he found it "quite menacing [and] quite worrying".
He has now passed the DVD and the threatening e-mails to the Metropolitan Police. But Mr Power was frustrated because of the difficulty of prosecuting someone who hides behind a cloak of anonymity.
The Conspiracy Files 7/7, a BBC documentary, tracked Muad Dib down, eventually finding him in the small town of Kells in Ireland. He is in fact John Hill, from Sheffield.
His alias, Muad Dib, is a fictional character in the science fiction film Dune, a film starring Sting and Kyle MacLachlan about inter-galactic freedom fighting, from which he seems to draw inspiration.
Sting and Kyle MacLachlan in Dune
Dune has been interpreted as an allegory for the Middle East
Clips from the film - including the quote "The sleeper must awaken" - appear in 7/7 Ripple Effect.
Frank Herbert's series of Dune novels use Islamic concepts like "jihad" and other terms based on Arabic.
A document on Muad Dib's website reveals he believes he is the Messiah and that George Lucas wrote Star Wars after being told telepathically what to write, by the very "Force" to which the films refer.
John Hill has now been arrested and is facing extradition to the UK on a charge of perverting the course of justice for sending DVDs of 7/7 Ripple Effect to the judge and jury foreman in a trial linked to the attacks.
This hasn't stopped his film. Alex Jones, who runs an internet site and a US radio show devoted to conspiracy theories, claims that 7/7 Ripple Effect has been "just exploding all over the web" since Hills' arrest.
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A bus was blown up in Tavistock Square
There have been two official reports into the bombing by the Intelligence and Security Committee. The government has always resisted calls for an independent public inquiry, and has decided not to actively counter conspiracy theories.
But there is concern that conspiracy theories are divisive and could alienate Muslims from the authorities. The former Metropolitan Police Deputy Assistant Commissioner, Brian Paddick, says action is needed to prevent further atrocities.
"Hopefully there will be people in the police service, the security service and in government who will realise how important conspiracy theories are. And how important it is… that every attempt is made to try and counteract them."
Rachel North, a survivor of the 7 July bombings, is troubled by the acceptance of conspiracy theories.
"If people in mosques think that the government is so antagonistic towards them that they're actually willing to frame them for a monstrous crime they didn't commit, what does that do to levels of trust? That is a problem for the government and for everybody in this country."
Mike Rudin is series producer of The Conspiracy Files 7/7
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|30-06-2009, 10:28 PM||#10|
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Pah, their scare tactics won't stop us from uncovering and exposing their lies.
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