Targeted Individual Statistics

wowo · 05-03-2013, 09:43 PM

From http://www.schizophrenia.com/szfacts.htm
About 52.303 million people worldwide suffer from schizophrenia.

From https://notes.utk.edu/bio/greenberg....?OpenDocument:
Auditory hallucinations are a hallmark of schizophrenia: 50 percent to 75 percent of the 2.8 million Americans who suffer from the illness hear voices that are not there. A small minority of the patients said the voices they heard were always or almost always supportive and positive in tone. But more than 70 percent described them as always or almost always negative.

So:
(75%-50%)/2+50%=62.5%
~62.5%=.625 of schizophrenics hear voices.
~70%=.7 of voices heard are negative.
1*.625*.7=.435
~43.5% of schizophrenics hear negative voices. These negative voices will insult, degrade, etc.
52.303 million * 43.5%=22.75 million people hear negative voices.

From http://www.schizophrenia.com/suicide.html
Between 10% and 15% of people with schizophrenia have historically committed suicide.

From

Schizophrenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Schizophrenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

About 5% of people with schizophrenia commit suicide.

Taking a simple median, about 10% of the people who hear negative voices will commit suicide. That's about 2.2 million of the people who hear negative voices at this time. Many of those will suicide due to endless degradation, insults, and mental rape, where they have no one to help them.

There are no statistics that describe the percentage of people who hear negative voices who are being attacked from an external source, however:
It appears that all of the people describing voices are describing voices that are being created by something that can think. All of the accounts appear to describe the origin of the voice as a being or person that can both see the victims thoughts, and speak to the victim, without the victim being able to perceive the attackers logical planning thoughts. It would be difficult for a reasoning piece of one's mind to spy and cast it's voice in this manner. The negative voices appear to operate by a common pattern of behavior, e.g. endless insults, sexual stimulation, etc. These facts are arguments for the attackers being from a source external to the victims mind.

Given these arguments, the vast majority of the approximately 22.75 million people who hear negative voices may be misdiagnosed. The total number of people being attacked may be larger yet, given the number of people who believe they are targeted individuals and people who believe they are demon possessed. Approximately 890 of those diagnosed with schizophrenia who hear negative, insulting, degrading voices, will commit suicide today.

posted with permission from SyntheticTelepathy.com

maxine · 05-03-2013, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wowo

From http://www.schizophrenia.com/szfacts.htm
About 52.303 million people worldwide suffer from schizophrenia.

From https://notes.utk.edu/bio/greenberg....?OpenDocument:
Auditory hallucinations are a hallmark of schizophrenia: 50 percent to 75 percent of the 2.8 million Americans who suffer from the illness hear voices that are not there. A small minority of the patients said the voices they heard were always or almost always supportive and positive in tone. But more than 70 percent described them as always or almost always negative.

So:
(75%-50%)/2+50%=62.5%
~62.5%=.625 of schizophrenics hear voices.
~70%=.7 of voices heard are negative.
1*.625*.7=.435
~43.5% of schizophrenics hear negative voices. These negative voices will insult, degrade, etc.
52.303 million * 43.5%=22.75 million people hear negative voices.

From http://www.schizophrenia.com/suicide.html
Between 10% and 15% of people with schizophrenia have historically committed suicide.

From Schizophrenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
About 5% of people with schizophrenia commit suicide.

Taking a simple median, about 10% of the people who hear negative voices will commit suicide. That's about 2.2 million of the people who hear negative voices at this time. Many of those will suicide due to endless degradation, insults, and mental rape, where they have no one to help them.

There are no statistics that describe the percentage of people who hear negative voices who are being attacked from an external source, however:
It appears that all of the people describing voices are describing voices that are being created by something that can think. All of the accounts appear to describe the origin of the voice as a being or person that can both see the victims thoughts, and speak to the victim, without the victim being able to perceive the attackers logical planning thoughts. It would be difficult for a reasoning piece of one's mind to spy and cast it's voice in this manner. The negative voices appear to operate by a common pattern of behavior, e.g. endless insults, sexual stimulation, etc. These facts are arguments for the attackers being from a source external to the victims mind.

Given these arguments, the vast majority of the approximately 22.75 million people who hear negative voices may be misdiagnosed. The total number of people being attacked may be larger yet, given the number of people who believe they are targeted individuals and people who believe they are demon possessed. Approximately 890 of those diagnosed with schizophrenia who hear negative, insulting, degrading voices, will commit suicide today.

posted with permission from SyntheticTelepathy.com

These people are, "awake!" The voices they hear - are from conscious entities! These beings do exist! They have their own thought processes - outside of the Human mind! They also operate for all beings! Schizophrenia is just a label! I interact with these beings - on a daily basis! I don't give a shit what they say, or do!! I do not take medication - and if they do say something repeatedly....I say, "thesaurus - you need one!" LOL!!

ufochick · 06-03-2013, 04:03 AM

There is a distinct difference between being a TA and being mentally ill.

deca · 06-03-2013, 04:44 AM

Targeted Individuals (TI`s) has nothing to do with schizophrenia

schizophrenia is a syndrome a "label" for a collection of symptoms

hearing voices & hallucinating is classed as one of the Positive symptoms I kid you not.....

but does not by it self make you meet the criteria to be diagnosed "labeled" as a "schizophrenic"

there is no physical test or real understanding on what schizophrenia is or what causes it ....but is observed ... Changes in thinking and behaviour are the most obvious signs of schizophrenia but people can experience symptoms in different ways.

The symptoms of schizophrenia are usually classified into one of two categories: positive or negative.

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Schizop.../Symptoms.aspx

TI`s (targeted individuals) are people that claim/believe that they have been made "guinea pigs" in secret tests of mind-bending weapons.

http://www.strangemag.com/braveworldmindcontrol.html

TI`s are not any more suffering from a mental disorder than somebody that's been spiked with a mind altering drug(but done via electronics) ....thou they can suffer greatly from the distress,fear and psychological techniques used on them.(but after a while it will have a great impact on there well-being)

unfortunately ether thru some incident family concerns/etc or from trying to report the crime being done to them (unfortunately this is not recognized as a crime in our society/system but rather dealt with as if the person reporting them are delusional and suffering from a mental disorder) many unfortunately end up in the mental health system getting wrongly diagnosed

again the human mind is a complex thing.....many people hear voices that has nothing to do with being targeted with man made technology ...many others suffer from mental disorders

again our system/society wants to label people with "mental disorders" then get them on anti psychotics and ant depressants and wipe the hands ...instead of actual get to the bottom and fixing whats actual cause these people problems,duress and suffering in the first place

kittycorr · 06-03-2013, 05:13 AM

Ive been diagnosed with a type of schizophrenia, schizo affective disorder. I will always have to take medication. I hardly ever heard voices, not my thing, but did have lots of odd things happen to me and felt something was constantly watching me and interacting with me etc. The first few years were hell. Ive been through childbirth naturally, I know about pain, and Im telling you it was sheer torment. Yes, I do have psycological issues as Ive been through a lot in my life, yes tablets help and talking therapies really help a lot. But, I still maintain that there was more to this. I feel 'clear' from it at the moment and I dont get frightened anymore. But there is more to this. Ive no idea what, or why anyone would want to mess with boring little me, but there you go.

deca · 06-03-2013, 05:28 AM

again you have to understand that our world over the last few decades has changed ......our bodies have evolved over thousands of years mainly to cope with 2 types of stress ...being eating by a predator, or starvation (lack of food ,oxygen ) ....unfortunately our diets/water are fully of synthetic processed stuff ....our skies are fully of toxins .....even our environments are fully of stressors EMF etc ...our body`s and minds were not built to deal with modern life

so if you are suffering mentally and physically I would definitely look at your life style /environment and well being and see if you can make positive changes in your life.

again I do understand that when you are suffering generally its harder to make changes ...you lack the resources and well being to do so ...but it has to be more than what the docs do...give you a bottle of pills and go there there you take them and you feel better

ps I personally (not a expert on this )would look at the side effects of the medication you been prescribed and probably look at seeing it as a sort term remedy rather than a solution to your situation and look at alternatives to improve your well being in the long term

http://www.examiner.com/article/ghos...u-need-to-know

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However, a theory in the medical community is that exposure to high EMFs, or even prolonged exposure to low-moderate EMFs, may interfere with the body's natural electrical system. Just as a power surge can disrupt the electrical system in your home and cause things such as your lights to flicker, so can a disruption in the body's system cause little flickers and bobbles, producing a variety of symptoms.

Reported symptoms of high or prolonged EMFs include headaches, anxiety, a feeling of being watched or not alone, depression, fatigue, sleeping disorders and nausea, and there have even been reports of hallucinations and suicide.

kittycorr · 06-03-2013, 05:57 AM

I appreciate what you are saying, but actually this is not what im talking about. Im not unwell right now, i take a lower dose these days, if i ever feel fully ready to come off i will try, but at the moment thats not a good idea. Im fairly healthy too. This isnt about stress or feeling a bit sad, its something completely different and im telling you from my own experiances that there is more to some peoples mental illness. I have no idea what, but i know what I know. Of course once you admit to being mentally ill no one trusts what you are saying and everyone feels compelled to give advice, based on themselves,their own lives, not based on years of study or any expertise.

kittycorr · 06-03-2013, 05:59 AM

also I know a great deal about side effects and suffer many, but unfortunately sometimes you have to take whats available and deal with it. its a personal choice, to have the side effects and lesson the symptoms, or suffer and be all natural. tricky one.

deca · 06-03-2013, 06:19 AM

it was the OP trying to link/associate targeted individuals with schizophrenia not me , so I had to point out the differences ....don`t know what there motive /reason for doing this or what there website is trying to sell

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Synthetic Telepathy
SyntheticTelepathy.com is a start-up company aiming to provide mental communication technologies and security services.

porridge · 06-03-2013, 10:48 AM

I agree with the op,

Shamanic cultures have known about this for 1000's if not millions of years yet along comes science & in particular psychiatry & knows all. When it knows fuck all about consciousness or spirit & has never cured or wish to cure anyone.

So be wary of those that try & reinforce the doctrine of psychiatry & we all know who owns & runs them. Sorcery is very real & has lots of poisons to attack & kill off the true self.

Maybe they are being electronically controlled by big pharma to spam the materialist agenda.

The spiritual war is very real.

wowo · 06-03-2013, 02:15 PM

This post is about how many schizophrenics are misdiagnosed, and are in fact either TI's or torment victims. About 44% seem to be misdiagnosed. Which would mean that there might be more TI's/torment victims that think they are schizophrenics than there are TI's.

The speeches are free, and help some. If you find anything that TRULY works Deca, let me know, I'm a victim myself. I'm not for selling a lousy product.

wowo · 06-03-2013, 02:28 PM

My introduction to mental technology was with perps/spirits invading my head. I'm for providing security against mental invasion more than I am for adding to the problem. In mind control victim and body snatching cases in particular it may be required to determine who is thinking.

wowo · 06-03-2013, 02:34 PM

I think many of our mental health professionals are on the front line with no clue of what is happening. I don't at all doubt that many are mind control victims. Some do not at all seem to comprehend what is being said to them, I'm quite suspicious that some were prompted with mind control into ranting about delusional behavior and handing out pills. I don't know about big pharma, but I suspect that perps/tormenting spirits use them to distract victims from the truth.

deca · 06-03-2013, 05:27 PM

look TI`s really need to work together with other TI`s that know they are a TI`s not try and convince a load of "borderline" people that the are a TI ...we have thousands of victims around the world already....we need to focus on proving that we are victims with hard evidence first ....
we have enough issues in our ranks to deal with ,,,many TI`s are messed up (understandable and a deliberate act by the perps ) but can be counterproductive to actual exposing this....we certainly don`t need messed up people who are not actual genuine TI`s as well

I total agree with ICAACT`s mission statement

http://icaact.org/mission-statement-...l#.UTd_0TcotEI

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ICAACT's mission statement

International Center Against Abuse of Covert TechnologiesTo bring awareness to the general public and the legal systems around the world in regards to serious human rights abuses utilizing remote electronic technologies.

This may be in the form of non-consensual experimentation, classified projects, and or criminal elements who have otherwise gained access to remote influencing technologies.

It is the position of ICAACT that such atrocities constitute a violation of the Nuremburg Code and in most circumstances is considered a war crime, to include international or domestic terrorism.

The ultimate goal of the membership and leadership of ICAACT.ORG is to bring the suffering and torture of innocent human beings to an end. The ideal outcome would be the cease, desist and removal of all non consesual technologies imposed upon victims.

Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family.

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation.

Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

The members and the leadership of ICAACT.ORG exhibit a common belief system. That belief is that all human beings have the right to be free from non-consensual human experimentation. They have the right to be free from physical and mental torture and have the right to privacy from invasion of their thoughts and belief systems.

Those who represent and are affiliated with this organization do so with truth, integrity, and peaceful resolutions above all else.

kittycorr · 06-03-2013, 07:01 PM

sorry deca didnt mean to sound arsy. What makes some of you feel you are targeted individuals and what does that even mean? if you dont mind me asking.

deca · 06-03-2013, 07:07 PM

because our symptoms match what the technology does ,plus most of us had promising careers (some professional) and others ran successful business ...when more or less over a very sort time we were attack with no mental history
plus we have supporting evidence RF scans and medical scans showing implants in our body's

Brain Implant RF Scanning of Mr. Magnus Olsson - YouTube

so its not what we believe but what we can prove and demonstrate

also why Jesse Ventura took our claims seriously and investigated it

Conspiracy Theory with Jesse.Ventura Brain Invaders S03E07

Conspiracy Theory with Jesse.Ventura Brain Invaders S03E07 - YouTube

wowo · 06-03-2013, 07:17 PM

Some are no doubt misdiagnosed. My initial estimate is 44%. You can analyze reports of 'negative voices', for signs that the voice can think, and signs that it does not originate within the misdiagnosed individuals head.

deca · 06-03-2013, 07:33 PM

wowo why don`t you hire a mini bus drive to your local mental ward ask the people that hear voices ...to jump on aboard then use them as evidence for your theory ...I sure it would be most effective evidence and statistics ...

deca · 06-03-2013, 07:42 PM

Targeted Individual is to expose the use of covert man made technology being illegal used on unwitting humans implants/electromagnetic means .....it has nothing to do with explaining schizophrenia or visions and people complaining of hearing voices hundreds of years ago ...please stop confusion the issue

yes when you know this is going on that many suspect that many schizophrenics or people suffering from very similar symptoms (alien abductions/contactees psychic attacks) could well be victims of this man made technology but until they decide that they are and collect evidence to prove they are then it can be counterproductive to the TI community

also I need to point out that some people might be suffering form natural or man made EMF and have similar symptoms but not done(they are just sensitive to this) as a deliberate act like the case it is with TI`s ...see Dr persingers work on this

deca · 06-03-2013, 08:10 PM

look this forum is biased and wants to drag everything into a spiritual,alien,supernatural explanation then sell you a spiritual,alien,supernatural solution/belief

its not about real evidence or scientific method or finding real lawful solutions and bringing about real change..all it does is change peoples perception

I do believe there is a negative influence on this forum who want to misdirect,confuse, pacify neutralize real information and activism

again the disruptive trolls are easily spotted ...but its the wolves in sheep cloths that do the real damage pretending/deceiving to be what they are not trying to gain followers to act as unwitting agents

06-03-2013, 04:03 AM	#3
ufochick Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tulsa Oklahoma metro area, USA Posts: 7,272	There is a distinct difference between being a TA and being mentally ill. __________________ The Reptilian Agenda, Interdimensional Contact, Interactions signs,Alien Technology and More UFOchick.com

06-03-2013, 04:44 AM	#4
deca Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lancashire Posts: 14,562	Targeted Individuals (TI`s) has nothing to do with schizophrenia schizophrenia is a syndrome a "label" for a collection of symptoms hearing voices & hallucinating is classed as one of the Positive symptoms I kid you not..... but does not by it self make you meet the criteria to be diagnosed "labeled" as a "schizophrenic" there is no physical test or real understanding on what schizophrenia is or what causes it ....but is observed ... Changes in thinking and behaviour are the most obvious signs of schizophrenia but people can experience symptoms in different ways. The symptoms of schizophrenia are usually classified into one of two categories: positive or negative. http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Schizop.../Symptoms.aspx TI`s (targeted individuals) are people that claim/believe that they have been made "guinea pigs" in secret tests of mind-bending weapons. http://www.strangemag.com/braveworldmindcontrol.html TI`s are not any more suffering from a mental disorder than somebody that's been spiked with a mind altering drug(but done via electronics) ....thou they can suffer greatly from the distress,fear and psychological techniques used on them.(but after a while it will have a great impact on there well-being) unfortunately ether thru some incident family concerns/etc or from trying to report the crime being done to them (unfortunately this is not recognized as a crime in our society/system but rather dealt with as if the person reporting them are delusional and suffering from a mental disorder) many unfortunately end up in the mental health system getting wrongly diagnosed again the human mind is a complex thing.....many people hear voices that has nothing to do with being targeted with man made technology ...many others suffer from mental disorders again our system/society wants to label people with "mental disorders" then get them on anti psychotics and ant depressants and wipe the hands ...instead of actual get to the bottom and fixing whats actual cause these people problems,duress and suffering in the first place __________________ It would also appear possible to create high fidelity speech in the human body, raising the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction...Thus, it may be possible to 'talk' to selected adversaries in a fashion that would be most disturbing to them." United States Air Force Scientific Advisory Board, New World Vistas: Air and Space Power For The 21st Century http://deca-ti-mc.mypodcast.com/index.html Last edited by deca; 06-03-2013 at 04:57 AM.

06-03-2013, 02:15 PM	#11
wowo Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 73	Deca.... This post is about how many schizophrenics are misdiagnosed, and are in fact either TI's or torment victims. About 44% seem to be misdiagnosed. Which would mean that there might be more TI's/torment victims that think they are schizophrenics than there are TI's. The speeches are free, and help some. If you find anything that TRULY works Deca, let me know, I'm a victim myself. I'm not for selling a lousy product.

06-03-2013, 02:28 PM	#12
wowo Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 73	Security My introduction to mental technology was with perps/spirits invading my head. I'm for providing security against mental invasion more than I am for adding to the problem. In mind control victim and body snatching cases in particular it may be required to determine who is thinking.

06-03-2013, 02:34 PM	#13
wowo Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 73	I think many of our mental health professionals are on the front line with no clue of what is happening. I don't at all doubt that many are mind control victims. Some do not at all seem to comprehend what is being said to them, I'm quite suspicious that some were prompted with mind control into ranting about delusional behavior and handing out pills. I don't know about big pharma, but I suspect that perps/tormenting spirits use them to distract victims from the truth. Last edited by wowo; 06-03-2013 at 02:35 PM.

06-03-2013, 05:13 AM	#5
kittycorr Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 52	Ive been diagnosed with a type of schizophrenia, schizo affective disorder. I will always have to take medication. I hardly ever heard voices, not my thing, but did have lots of odd things happen to me and felt something was constantly watching me and interacting with me etc. The first few years were hell. Ive been through childbirth naturally, I know about pain, and Im telling you it was sheer torment. Yes, I do have psycological issues as Ive been through a lot in my life, yes tablets help and talking therapies really help a lot. But, I still maintain that there was more to this. I feel 'clear' from it at the moment and I dont get frightened anymore. But there is more to this. Ive no idea what, or why anyone would want to mess with boring little me, but there you go.

06-03-2013, 05:57 AM	#7
kittycorr Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 52	I appreciate what you are saying, but actually this is not what im talking about. Im not unwell right now, i take a lower dose these days, if i ever feel fully ready to come off i will try, but at the moment thats not a good idea. Im fairly healthy too. This isnt about stress or feeling a bit sad, its something completely different and im telling you from my own experiances that there is more to some peoples mental illness. I have no idea what, but i know what I know. Of course once you admit to being mentally ill no one trusts what you are saying and everyone feels compelled to give advice, based on themselves,their own lives, not based on years of study or any expertise.

06-03-2013, 05:59 AM	#8
kittycorr Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 52	also I know a great deal about side effects and suffer many, but unfortunately sometimes you have to take whats available and deal with it. its a personal choice, to have the side effects and lesson the symptoms, or suffer and be all natural. tricky one.

06-03-2013, 10:48 AM	#10
porridge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: the cemetery Posts: 6,452	I agree with the op, Shamanic cultures have known about this for 1000's if not millions of years yet along comes science & in particular psychiatry & knows all. When it knows fuck all about consciousness or spirit & has never cured or wish to cure anyone. So be wary of those that try & reinforce the doctrine of psychiatry & we all know who owns & runs them. Sorcery is very real & has lots of poisons to attack & kill off the true self. Maybe they are being electronically controlled by big pharma to spam the materialist agenda. The spiritual war is very real.

06-03-2013, 07:01 PM	#15
kittycorr Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 52	sorry deca didnt mean to sound arsy. What makes some of you feel you are targeted individuals and what does that even mean? if you dont mind me asking.

06-03-2013, 07:17 PM	#17
wowo Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 73	Misdiagnosed Some are no doubt misdiagnosed. My initial estimate is 44%. You can analyze reports of 'negative voices', for signs that the voice can think, and signs that it does not originate within the misdiagnosed individuals head.

06-03-2013, 07:33 PM	#18
deca Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lancashire Posts: 14,562	wowo why don`t you hire a mini bus drive to your local mental ward ask the people that hear voices ...to jump on aboard then use them as evidence for your theory ...I sure it would be most effective evidence and statistics ... __________________ It would also appear possible to create high fidelity speech in the human body, raising the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction...Thus, it may be possible to 'talk' to selected adversaries in a fashion that would be most disturbing to them." United States Air Force Scientific Advisory Board, New World Vistas: Air and Space Power For The 21st Century http://deca-ti-mc.mypodcast.com/index.html

06-03-2013, 07:42 PM	#19
deca Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lancashire Posts: 14,562	Targeted Individual is to expose the use of covert man made technology being illegal used on unwitting humans implants/electromagnetic means .....it has nothing to do with explaining schizophrenia or visions and people complaining of hearing voices hundreds of years ago ...please stop confusion the issue yes when you know this is going on that many suspect that many schizophrenics or people suffering from very similar symptoms (alien abductions/contactees psychic attacks) could well be victims of this man made technology but until they decide that they are and collect evidence to prove they are then it can be counterproductive to the TI community also I need to point out that some people might be suffering form natural or man made EMF and have similar symptoms but not done(they are just sensitive to this) as a deliberate act like the case it is with TI`s ...see Dr persingers work on this __________________ It would also appear possible to create high fidelity speech in the human body, raising the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction...Thus, it may be possible to 'talk' to selected adversaries in a fashion that would be most disturbing to them." United States Air Force Scientific Advisory Board, New World Vistas: Air and Space Power For The 21st Century http://deca-ti-mc.mypodcast.com/index.html Last edited by deca; 06-03-2013 at 07:54 PM.

06-03-2013, 08:10 PM	#20
deca Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lancashire Posts: 14,562	look this forum is biased and wants to drag everything into a spiritual,alien,supernatural explanation then sell you a spiritual,alien,supernatural solution/belief its not about real evidence or scientific method or finding real lawful solutions and bringing about real change..all it does is change peoples perception I do believe there is a negative influence on this forum who want to misdirect,confuse, pacify neutralize real information and activism again the disruptive trolls are easily spotted ...but its the wolves in sheep cloths that do the real damage pretending/deceiving to be what they are not trying to gain followers to act as unwitting agents __________________ It would also appear possible to create high fidelity speech in the human body, raising the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction...Thus, it may be possible to 'talk' to selected adversaries in a fashion that would be most disturbing to them." United States Air Force Scientific Advisory Board, New World Vistas: Air and Space Power For The 21st Century http://deca-ti-mc.mypodcast.com/index.html Last edited by deca; 06-03-2013 at 08:40 PM.