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Old 07-01-2013, 08:21 AM   #101
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Remember, "I am all consciousness, all awareness, all that ever was, has been and ever will be" I am _____________ < add name here, I am me, I am free. Infinite.

I send a positive energy to all the worlds people right now through a thought form. Crazy man ? no, but it makes me feel good and increases my positive energy and I hope its received through my words.

Fear ? No way. Find it, FACE IT, and you have beaten it. At least eventually.

Please, we too need to be 100% we too arnt working for the illuminati by contributing to the fear. Maybe people dont need to know ? Right now they dont ! Maybe they are happy with there religion ? Maybe religion doesnt put people in a bad vibration and thats what makes no sense to me.
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:21 PM   #102
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am not scared to get off my knees,but i understand what your sayin,its goin to take alot of planning,an its got to be BIG!maybe every awake consciousness all over the world coming together at centre points in their country, an channelling into the true love of our beings,all at the same time.the power we would hold together at that time would be infinte.
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:44 PM   #103
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Old 09-02-2013, 04:10 PM   #104
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We will never get off our knees because noone has the guts to do anything, and up until now that included me. We lap up all the info David Icke, InfoWars and the like provide us with, we read about all the symbolism and all the ways our liberties are being taken away but what are we doing? Yep, just reading about how bad it's going to get. Everyone is too comfy in their own life to do something about it.

Take my dad for example, he's "awake", the word I see spouted around here but he's got no interest in personally changing anything. He's a good man, he's a carpenter who does a fair day's work for a fair day's pay, loves going to the rugby and has planned his retirement in 15 years time and I dare say many of you are living a life just as comfortable. What happens to the prospect of his comfy life if there was a mass overhaul of government? There is just too much at stake for the majority of people to risk an overhaul of government that doesn't work out.

I'm 22 and I've just graduated from University, I've got nothing to lose in regards to a career or children. Maybe me and people like myself should be at the forefront of this radical change but we need a plan. It's no use going to David's lectures or reading the forum and just knowing what's going on, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.

Now let's get something sorted.

Ideas? If all you've got to say is "It's not that easy." then don't bother replying, only ideas are welcome here.
Yes people are afraid because this is a life and death decision. People can just sit tight and hope something happens or a Messiha comes along and does all their work for them.

The only law in Nature is the path of least resistance, its only constant is change. Life follows this rule as well, but free will can allow us to go against the current. Love against Fear goes against the path of least resistance with as little energy as possible....free will without Love is not free will it is Ego...just pondering, not saying it is the best description. Ego and free will are 2 different things, ego goes with the path of least resistance, love goes against the path of least resistance so long as it creates more love, there is no free lunch, you don't get something for nothing, Love creates more Love, but it takes effort, intelligence, wisdome and faith....

Just throwing it out there, because you are right, We are afraid to get off our knees, I have a plan, but I can't do it alone, want to help?
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Old 18-02-2013, 07:47 PM   #105
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I saw a video where a guy was being beaten by a group of police and everyone could see it was wrong, it was police brutality but they just stood there and did nothing. Then out of nowhere a guy jumps out a kicks a police officer in the head and proceeds to attack him. Unfortunately the rest of the crowd didn't jump in so they arrested the guy. Thats what I'm afraid of. Being the nail that sticks out.

BTW I meant that metaphorically. I wasn't saying I'd attack police officers like that, what I meant was stepping in and opposing an oppressive system to help your fellow man.

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Just throwing it out there, because you are right, We are afraid to get off our knees, I have a plan, but I can't do it alone, want to help?
Whats your plan?

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Old 18-02-2013, 07:58 PM   #106
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HERE`s A GREAT START:-

Reload this Page

Historic 9/11 truth court case UK feb 25th

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235259

A chance to kick some arse...Huw many will be there?

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Old 19-02-2013, 12:16 AM   #107
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We will never get off our knees because noone has the guts to do anything, and up until now that included me. We lap up all the info David Icke, InfoWars and the like provide us with, we read about all the symbolism and all the ways our liberties are being taken away but what are we doing? Yep, just reading about how bad it's going to get. Everyone is too comfy in their own life to do something about it.

Take my dad for example, he's "awake", the word I see spouted around here but he's got no interest in personally changing anything. He's a good man, he's a carpenter who does a fair day's work for a fair day's pay, loves going to the rugby and has planned his retirement in 15 years time and I dare say many of you are living a life just as comfortable. What happens to the prospect of his comfy life if there was a mass overhaul of government? There is just too much at stake for the majority of people to risk an overhaul of government that doesn't work out.

I'm 22 and I've just graduated from University, I've got nothing to lose in regards to a career or children. Maybe me and people like myself should be at the forefront of this radical change but we need a plan. It's no use going to David's lectures or reading the forum and just knowing what's going on, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.

Now let's get something sorted.

Ideas? If all you've got to say is "It's not that easy." then don't bother replying, only ideas are welcome here.

This has been a question I pondered for the last 10 years and I've come to the conclusion that MOST people know exactly the way the world is heading towards increasing tyranny and believe it or not, I honestly believe that most people would agree with conspiracy theorists and truther's if they were FORCED to be 100% honest.

The problem is, most people consciously choose to ignore the disturbing truths that we keep discovering. They make the decision to ignore it and come up with justifiable excuses and stories to explain a different perspective so they can remain in denial.

But why?
Why would any sane, moral, peace loving person choose to ignore the nightmares that are unfolding right before their eyes? I'd say it's a combination of things but the MAIN reason is the way modern society is designed. We live in a greed-based society where an individuals status and reputation is measured by the amount of green paper they own and the number of material possessions they have managed to collect. For their entire life, they have been conditioned to view their life in this shallow and meaningless way and its too scary to go against this way of life and risk losing everything you've worked for. They simply have too much invested in society to even comprehend that something is very wrong.

To face up to the conspiracy will mean admitting you've been living a lie and all the hours, days, weeks, months, and years you've put into it are meaningless.
This is a powerful vice that our society has wrapped around everyone's free-will. But to make it even worse, their false beliefs are CONSTANTLY being reinforced by TV and the media as well as everyone else around them. Even though, deep down, everyone else has the same deeper truth but it's got to remain secret and hidden. If we could somehow see the deep psychological effects of this daily lie, I'd imagine they would create profound changes in someone.
But then modern society WANT'S people to wear masks and be someone other than yourself. Society as a whole accepts the concept of hiding your true self and being someone else. Society wants everyone to be the same.

Anyway, that's what I've come to believe but it's a much deeper subject than this. In fact, when you fully comprehend the scale with which the population is kept obedient and asleep, only then does it dawn on you the level of intelligence we are dealing with, which, in my opinion, is far too advanced for humans.

Beyond the individual reasons for not getting off their knee's, you also have to consider most things in our lives today from the chemicals in our water, the food most people eat, the air they breath and the electronic frequencies of technology all around us. Each of these also play a part towards keeping someone submissive.

You've also got so called 'healthcare', education, employment, housing etc etc etc. LITERALLY every single aspect of our lives is about keeping us on our knee's and it's all designed around capitalism and the concept of debt.

When you see the full scale of our prison, then you start to appreciate how lucky you are to have woken up and started to see clearly. Each and every one of us who see the real world we live in are special because with all of their tools to keep us down, we still, STILL stay conscious. This is why I'm certain we will eventually prevail and re-discover REAL freedom again.
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Old 19-02-2013, 08:32 AM   #108
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I don't think fear is the key reason why most of us don't rise up in some popular movement. In my own opinion the fact that we live fairly comfortable lives Has more to do with it.

We have food, warmth, entertainment and a reasonable ammount of security and yes even freedom. In short we are free range consumers and this extends to consumption of David Ikes works.

They say that a fire needs fuel, air and ignition to start and at the present time at least one of these three is misssing from any sort of revolution.
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Old 24-02-2013, 01:13 PM   #109
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Not scared, most people are comfortable with where they are. When the penny's really start to PINCH, then that's another story.
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Old 24-02-2013, 01:14 PM   #110
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I don't think fear is the key reason why most of us don't rise up in some popular movement. In my own opinion the fact that we live fairly comfortable lives Has more to do with it.

We have food, warmth, entertainment and a reasonable ammount of security and yes even freedom. In short we are free range consumers and this extends to consumption of David Ikes works.

They say that a fire needs fuel, air and ignition to start and at the present time at least one of these three is misssing from any sort of revolution.
Yep.
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There IS that fear of losing your comfortable lifestyle though.

It's the carrot and the stick.
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There IS that fear of losing your comfortable lifestyle though.

It's the carrot and the stick.
Freerange inside an electric fence?
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There IS that fear of losing your comfortable lifestyle though.

It's the carrot and the stick.
Yes I agree. Yet the other thing is that the 'comfort' is probably based upon people not perceiving any problem beyond acquiring their immediate needs - financial, food,clothes, shelter. Unless some people are being overtly and physically oppressed, they don't really have anything to fight against.
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Old 25-02-2013, 10:21 PM   #114
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Everyone is NOT too scared to get off their knees.

Alot of people in the west (US & UK) still have a high quality of life.

When quality of life gets lower for the majority people will get off their knees.
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:17 AM   #115
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There's no viable way TO get off your knees. It's an ambiguous phrase. What do they mean? Protesting to people who have no ears? Or going around convincing people who have no chance of getting it ever?

Are these acts and states of mind energetic templates that fire out into the air for all to try on?

Just to try, to care...

Sounds like Love and Light to me. We all know how Dave feels about that.

But we never get a solid answer to what we are supposed to be doing. Sort yourself out, I say.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:34 PM   #116
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This has been a question I pondered for the last 10 years and I've come to the conclusion that MOST people know exactly the way the world is heading towards increasing tyranny and believe it or not, I honestly believe that most people would agree with conspiracy theorists and truther's if they were FORCED to be 100% honest.

The problem is, most people consciously choose to ignore the disturbing truths that we keep discovering. They make the decision to ignore it and come up with justifiable excuses and stories to explain a different perspective so they can remain in denial.

But why?
Why would any sane, moral, peace loving person choose to ignore the nightmares that are unfolding right before their eyes? I'd say it's a combination of things but the MAIN reason is the way modern society is designed. We live in a greed-based society where an individuals status and reputation is measured by the amount of green paper they own and the number of material possessions they have managed to collect. For their entire life, they have been conditioned to view their life in this shallow and meaningless way and its too scary to go against this way of life and risk losing everything you've worked for. They simply have too much invested in society to even comprehend that something is very wrong.

To face up to the conspiracy will mean admitting you've been living a lie and all the hours, days, weeks, months, and years you've put into it are meaningless.
This is a powerful vice that our society has wrapped around everyone's free-will. But to make it even worse, their false beliefs are CONSTANTLY being reinforced by TV and the media as well as everyone else around them. Even though, deep down, everyone else has the same deeper truth but it's got to remain secret and hidden. If we could somehow see the deep psychological effects of this daily lie, I'd imagine they would create profound changes in someone.
But then modern society WANT'S people to wear masks and be someone other than yourself. Society as a whole accepts the concept of hiding your true self and being someone else. Society wants everyone to be the same.

Anyway, that's what I've come to believe but it's a much deeper subject than this. In fact, when you fully comprehend the scale with which the population is kept obedient and asleep, only then does it dawn on you the level of intelligence we are dealing with, which, in my opinion, is far too advanced for humans.

Beyond the individual reasons for not getting off their knee's, you also have to consider most things in our lives today from the chemicals in our water, the food most people eat, the air they breath and the electronic frequencies of technology all around us. Each of these also play a part towards keeping someone submissive.

You've also got so called 'healthcare', education, employment, housing etc etc etc. LITERALLY every single aspect of our lives is about keeping us on our knee's and it's all designed around capitalism and the concept of debt.

When you see the full scale of our prison, then you start to appreciate how lucky you are to have woken up and started to see clearly. Each and every one of us who see the real world we live in are special because with all of their tools to keep us down, we still, STILL stay conscious. This is why I'm certain we will eventually prevail and re-discover REAL freedom again.

You are so correct about the above. Ppl do NOT want to face the TRUTH.
I have found that out with mentioning some of D I topics. It is like deep down I think they may know something is wrong with the world. And that the conspiracy theories are true.
But how is the world gonna be better if at least 90 percent of the world do not cooperate and wake up?
It just seems so complicated. What would the world be like if they did?
There would be no rich or poor? We would all be living in equal houses with equal land? We would be out of the matrix? There would be no more chemicals in food or water? No chemtrails? No BAD health system? And all Holistic care?
I don't see that happening in my lifetime.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:40 PM   #117
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am not scared to get off my knees,but i understand what your sayin,its goin to take alot of planning,an its got to be BIG!maybe every awake consciousness all over the world coming together at centre points in their country, an channelling into the true love of our beings,all at the same time.the power we would hold together at that time would be infinte.
If that will happen then the PYRAMID would collapse. And bye bye reptilians.
But I don't see EVERYONE in the WORLD coming together in my lifetime.
Seems way too unrealistic. I see the 'awakening' but on a small scale.

Well in my lifetime, I/we may see some 'changes' on a small scale.
You know like the world getting better.
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This is the problem. Everyone here wants change, everyone knows what's in the way but we don't have a concrete plan.
I agree. Atheism being the cause of this.

We need a new 'ism', one that does not just deny deities,
but fills the gap - the void created when we woke
up from the false religions. The void left by gods.

We must remember, these gods were used to explain away
creation in the cosmos. The gods were made scientific masters , so we would fear the kings, who mediated these gods.

They were nothing more that evil humans, who pretended they were gods / had a connection with gods.
And they rule to this day - the same DNA. But notice now,
how the royals distance themselves from this divine role.

Why? cuz we wont fall for it anymore.

This filling of the void is simply - OURSELF. Only we can save ourselves.
No king can help us here - he will make it more difficult, if anything.

We must find as clean records , as possible, from the prophets. All prophets must speak the same language -
TRUTH. There is not ifs and buts here.

We must follow words, which are not tampered by kings.
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Old 28-03-2013, 09:53 PM   #119
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Everyone is NOT too scared to get off their knees.

Alot of people in the west (US & UK) still have a high quality of life.

When quality of life gets lower for the majority people will get off their knees.
Agree with this and themime's sentiments.

Many are still living comfortable lifestyles. There will be no revolution until if/when the state comes knocking on their door.
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Old 29-03-2013, 09:29 PM   #120
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people are too lazy. they believe someone else will everything for them. dependent on others, governments etc...
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