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Old 22-12-2012, 11:56 PM   #1401
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This is bizarre:


A royal source said: “The couple’s decision to spend Christmas with the Middletons at Bucklebury just seemed to make sense, given the circumstances.”

er, what circumstances? The princess seemed pretty chipper at the sports award ceremony and I'm sure Alan Farthing would be reachable if he were needed at Sandringham. It doesn't make sense. The Telegaph was already telegraphing this eventuality over a week ago:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-sickness.html
The Duchess of Cambridge could miss the Royal family’s traditional Christmas get-together at Sandringham as she continues to be laid low by severe pregnancy sickness, aides have conceded.
Caitlin Dean, of the charity Pregnancy Sickness Support, said it would be unwise for the Duchess to risk the journey to Sandringham, even she feels better, because long journeys can trigger relapses of the condition.

She said: “The key to this condition is that a woman suffering with it shouldn’t be put under any pressure to do things like that.

Sandringham is an awfully long way to travel and doing things like that can trigger relapses, so there should be no expectation on her to attend. Why should she have to do that if it’s going to put her at risk of becoming unwell?

“She would be a long way from the hospital, so let’s get things in perspective; having a low-key quiet time is surely far more important than feeling you have to attend a big family Christmas.”

The Duchess has already missed four public engagements as a result of her pregnancy sickness, the most recent of which was the Royal Film Performance of The Hobbit on Wednesday night.

If she does not make an appearance at Sandringham it could mean she is not seen in public until well into next year.


Very strange. But Caitlin should know, she runs the blog Spewing Mummy
http://spewingmummy.blogspot.co.uk/

The Mail wrote on 7 December:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...on-Palace.html
Caitlin Dean, who suffered from hyperemesis gravidarum during three pregnancies and is a trustee of the charity, said: ‘One of the key things is she needs rest in bed or on a sofa.

'She will need people to look after her, literally bring food to her and quickly, if she wants a piece of toast or an apple it needs to come straight away before a bout of nausea sets in'



So, none of that possible just outside Kings Lynn/RAF Marham/Hunstanton beach with countless flunkeys on hand to supply toast or apples???

The biggest news of the year for Spewing Mummy yet no further posts since 6 December....
http://spewingmummy.blogspot.co.uk/2.../big-news.html

"...the hospital... " [definitive article] being the KE VII, I guess... and Bucklebury is perhaps only half the distance to the KE VII compared with Sandringham; not perhaps an "awfully" long way, just a "long way" from central London.


The Middletons' Christmas should be blissfully calm
http://www.exacteditions.com/browse/5/2/34119/3/9/

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Old 23-12-2012, 12:54 AM   #1402
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This is on our TV News today in Australia. 5,000 pound fine at most???

Jacintha Saldanha: prosecutors consider criminal charges over Kate Middleton hoax call

The Australian disc jockeys who made a hoax call to a hospital treating the pregnant Duchess of Cambridge could face criminal prosecution in Britain after police passed a file to the Crown Prosecution Service.

By David Barrett, Home Affairs Correspondent
1:30PM GMT 22 Dec 2012

Scotland Yard has been investigating the circumstances that led up to the apparent suicide of Jacintha Saldanha, a nurse at the King Edward VII Hospital, after she answered a phone call from two DJs pretending to be members of the Royal Family.

Detectives have passed a file to the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) to review whether “any potential offences may have been committed by making the hoax call”.

It has not been disclosed what possible offences Scotland Yard have been pursuing, but detectives are thought to have examined whether DJs from 2Day FM radio station in Sydney, Mel Greig and Michael Christian, breached the Data Protection Act.

The legislation makes it an offence to “knowingly or recklessly ... obtain or disclose personal data or the information contained in personal data”.

It is unclear whether the DJs could face extradition from Australia to Britain if the CPS decides there is a reasonable chance of securing a conviction in the courts.

The Data Protection Act offence is punishable by a fine rather than imprisonment - up to a £5,000 fine in the magistrates’ court or an unlimited fine in the Crown court.

A Scotland Yard spokesman said: “Following the death of Jacintha Saldanha, officers have liaised with the Crown Prosecution Service as to whether any criminal offences had been committed in relation to the hoax call made to King Edward VII Hospital in the early hours of Tuesday December 4.

On Wednesday December 19, officers submitted a file to the Crown Prosecution Service for them to consider whether any potential offences may have been committed by making the hoax call.”

Mrs Saldanha, 46, a mother of two, was found dead in staff accommodation at the hospital where the Duchess, 30, had been treated for acute morning sickness.

The nurse had answered the telephone at the hospital in Marylebone, central London, and the two presenters convinced her they were the Queen and the Prince of Wales.

Mrs Saldanha transferred the call to another nurse who unwittingly gave the DJs an update on the Duchess’ condition.

Three days later the nurse was found hanging. She had left three suicide notes, her inquest revealed.

It has been reported that she wrote in one of three suicide notes that she expressed “deep anger” against the DJs and held them responsible for her death.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...hoax-call.html
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Old 23-12-2012, 12:57 AM   #1403
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DJ'S FATHER HIRED SECURITY GUARDS DUE TO THREAT TO HIS FAMILY

As besieged radio host Mel Greig remained in hiding, it was revealed that her father was so worried about threats to his family that he hired a security guard to protect his home.

A neighbour of 30-year-old Miss Greig’s father, whose full identity has not been revealed, said he, too, had gone into hiding as the furore over the royal radio prank raged on.

Neighbours in the Happy Valley suburb of Adelaide said that if Miss Greig intended spending Christmas with her father and other family members it was unlikely to be in Mr Greig’s house.

One neighbour told Adelaide’s Sunday Mail that Mr Greig, who has not been well, had not been seen at the house for more than a week – and before he vanished he was so concerned for his family's life he had hired a security guard to watch the property.

‘The guard was hired to sit out the front of the house, keeping watch around the clock,’ said the neighbour.

The neighbour – who wished to remain anonymous – said she had been told by the guard that threatening messages had been left on the family’s answering machine from all over the world.

‘It’s just so sad how the whole thing got out of hand,’ she said.

‘I know the dad hasn’t been well so this wouldn’t be doing him any good.’

Nurse Jacintha Saldanha committed suicide in the days following the prank call in which Miss Greig and her radio co-host Michael Christian pretended to be the Queen and Prince Charles and was put through to Kate Middleton’s private ward at King Edward VII by Miss Saldanha.

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Old 23-12-2012, 01:39 AM   #1404
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I have found out that Jacintha did have a history of depression and has tried to take her life before and that was in 2011!

Royal hoax call: Nurse was treated for depression last year

Bangalore, Sun Dec 23 2012, 01:05 hrs

Indian nurse Jacintha Saldanha, who reportedly committed suicide in London on December 7, days after being the victim of a royal hoax call by two Australian radio jockeys, was admitted in a Mangalore hospital for a depressive disorder in December 2011 when she visited India with her family for Christmas, a member of her family said.

“It is true that she was taken to the Fr Muller Medical College Hospital in Mangalore during her visit last Christmas. We are not commenting on whether it was a suicide attempt,’’ said the family member, following reports in the local media that she had attempted to kill herself on two occasions during her last visit to India.

According to local reports from Mangalore, medical records from the nurse’s stay in hospital during her last visit, ostensibly for a serious fall, suggested that she was diagnosed with a depressive disorder due to a history of stress and that she may have tried to harm herself.

The exact cause and trigger for the depression was not known and the nurse had been treated, put under medication and discharged in January, reports said.

Jacintha, who worked at the King Edward VII Hospital in London, was a victim of a prank call by two Australian RJs who pretended to be Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles as they enquired into the well-being of the pregnant Duchess of Cambridge, Kate Middleton, who was a patient at the hospital.

Days later, Jacintha was found dead in her quarters in London.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/ro...-year/1049057/
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Original article with more information


No prank this! Jacintha had suicidal tendencies
Ronald Anil Fernandes, Mangalore, Dec 21, 2012, DHNS:

Tried to kill herself twice while on holiday in Mangalore last Xmas

The tragic story of Jacintha Saldanha, who committed suicide in her nursing staff quarters in London on December 7, may have much deeper roots than just the humiliation she suffered at the hands of the two Australian Radio DJs two days earlier, on December 5.

Eleven months before she ended her life, Jacintha had developed suicidal tendencies. She had attempted suicide twice, once on December 30, 2011, and the second time on January 8, 2012, while she was in Mangalore/Shirva on a visit to India for Christmas, according to credible information available with Deccan Herald.

On the first occasion, she is believed to have been rushed to a private hospital in Mangalore for treatment after she attempted “self-harm” on December 30. It isn’t clear if she had consumed some poisonous substance then.

On the second occasion on January 8, however, she was rushed to the city-based Father Muller Medical College Hospital with head injuries following a “fall.” The injury was also causing loss of consciousness for a few seconds at a time. The doctors attending to her diagnosed her with having a “depressive disorder” caused by a history of stress, though they did not have reliable information about the history. Her mood was one of “sadness,” and she suffered from decreased sleep for more than 15 days, because of which she made “two attempts of deliberate self-harm.”

With her mental condition in such a depressed state (exhibiting death wish, so to say) – unwilling to establish eye-to-eye contact with others, difficulty in establishing rapport, and her decreased volume of talk, tone and increased reaction time, doctors referred Jacintha to psychiatrists on January 10.

“The patient was taken over by psychiatry on January 10 in view of suicidal risk,” according to information with Deccan Herald. Subsequently, she was under psychiatric treatment at the hospital for four days. At the time of her discharge on January 13, her condition had considerably improved. She was in a “happy” mood, and her psychometer activity was “normal.”

But while discharging her, the doctors explained to her family attendants that there existed “the risk of deliberate self-harm and the need for 24-hour supervision. The patient party was also advised to administer medication.”

Informed sources said her medication continued till September. But, it is clear that she was not under constant supervision of family members as she lived at the nurse staff quarters alone, while her husband and children lived in Bristol, UK.

It appeared that her suicidal tendencies reappeared after the prank calls from the Australian radio DJs. This, it appeared, was an aggravating factor. However, it is not known what had caused the depressive state of mind in the first place when she made the two “self-harm” attempts while on Christmas visit to India last December-January.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/...-suicidal.html

If you read some of the comments under this article, it appears that some Indians do not want this information disclosed preferring to blame the DJs!

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Old 23-12-2012, 02:11 AM   #1406
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DM has picked up on the previous attempted suicides

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ce-before.html
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Despite all the oddities about this case, a history of depression would make the official explanation more believable.

Why do we only learn about this history now?
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Old 23-12-2012, 03:00 AM   #1408
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No prank this! Jacintha had suicidal tendencies
Ronald Anil Fernandes, Mangalore, Dec 21, 2012, DHNS:
Tried to kill herself twice while on holiday in Mangalore last Xmas
"believed"

And how convenient to emerge now from confidential patient information (alleged)....
she was rushed to the city-based Father Muller Medical College Hospital with head injuries following a “fall.”....The doctors attending to her diagnosed her with having a “depressive disorder” caused by a history of stress....“The patient was taken over by psychiatry on January 10 in view of suicidal risk,

Informed sources said her medication continued till September. But, it is clear that she was not under constant supervision of family members as she lived at the nurse staff quarters alone, while her husband and children lived in Bristol, UK


Are any previous suicide attempts from the UK likely to "emerge" in the near future??
For suiciding, if this were true and known more widely, then it could be used conceivably as a disposal method, just as walkers or climbers are likely to be disposed of on mountains, or workers in tall buildings are likely to "fall" out of them, keen sailors drown, etc...

I was myself treated in hospital for a head injury some years ago, but nobody looked for any underlying suicidal tendencies.
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Royal nurse who answered hoax call about Duchess of Cambridge had attempted to kill herself twice before

Jacintha Saldanha made two attempts to kill herself last winter
The nurse took an overdose during visit to India
She survived but tried to jump from a building nine days later
Family now demanding answers of Australian media group and hospital

By Abul Taher

PUBLISHED:23:00 GMT, 22 December 2012| UPDATED: 23:00 GMT, 22 December 2012

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Nurse Jacintha Saldanha, pictured with her husband Ben Barboza, is believed to have tried to commit suicide twice previously

The nurse who committed suicide after answering a hoax phone call about the Duchess of Cambridge made two attempts to kill herself last winter and had been prescribed antidepressants.

Jacintha Saldanha, who took her own life days after the call from Australian DJs pretending to be the Queen and Prince Charles, attempted to commit suicide last December with an overdose of pills during a family visit to India.

She survived after being rushed to hospital but tried to commit suicide again just nine days later by apparently jumping from a building.

Ms Saldanha, 46, spent several days in intensive care before receiving psychiatric treatment and being prescribed a course of powerful antidepressants for nine months.

Along with the previous suicide attempts, reported in an Indian newspaper, members of Ms Saldanha’s family have revealed that the nurse was so ashamed after taking the hoax call earlier this month that she did not tell her husband or children about it before her death, despite speaking to them by phone several times.

Ms Saldanha was found hanged with a scarf at her living quarters at the King Edward VII’s Hospital in Central London on December 7.

Three days earlier, Ms Saldanha was the duty nurse who answered the prank call from Mel Greig and Michael Christian, and transferred it to a colleague.

That nurse revealed confidential medical information about the pregnant Duchess, who was being treated at the hospital for acute morning sickness. The call was broadcast in Australia and made headlines around the world.

Prosecutors look at bringing criminal charges over hoax call to Duchess of Cambridge's nurse

Radio 1's Nick Grimshaw banned from airing prank call feature 'Call or Delete' following Australian DJ's royal hoax

Yet the closest Ms Saldanha came to telling her husband she was at the centre of the story was when she told him to watch the news, claimed family members in her home town of Mangalore, southern India.

‘The first her husband knew that she was the victim of the hoax call was when police told him she was dead. Nobody in the family knew,’ said her younger brother Naveen Saldanha, 42. ‘They spoke several times that week but she did not tell him or the kids anything about it.’

The latest insight into the nurse’s state of mind came as British police confirmed yesterday they had passed a file to the Crown Prosecution Service to determine whether any offences had been committed.

Ms Greig and Mr Christian could be charged with attempting to obtain medical details by deception. Further charges could be brought against Australian radio station 2Day FM if it is found to have broadcast the prank without the permission of the participants.

Although Ms Saldanha’s family have previously said she did not have a history of depression, new reports suggest she has been battling the condition since at least December last year.

That month, Ms Saldanha, her accountant husband Benedict Barboza, 49, their son Junal, 17, and adopted daughter Lisha, 14, attended a family wedding in Shirva, 30 miles north of Mangalore. But on December 30, just days after the devout Catholic family celebrated Christmas, Ms Saldanha is believed to have taken an overdose of pills. She was rushed to a private hospital in Mangalore, where she was treated for ‘self-harm’.

On January 8 this year, she is believed to have attempted suicide again and was treated at Father Muller Medical College Hospital for head injuries suffered in a ‘fall’.

She was kept in intensive care for several days and then admitted to the psychiatric ward of the hospital, where she was treated for depression.

She was discharged three days later and given a nine-month course of anti-depressants. Her family was warned there was a risk that she may attempt suicide again.

Ms Saldanha, 46, is understood to have spent several days in intensive care before receiving psychiatric treatment and being prescribed a course of powerful antidepressants for nine months following her suicide attempts

Ms Saldanha’s medication would have finished in September. It is not known if she was prescribed any more or if staff at King Edward VII’s knew of her fragile condition.

Last night, her brother, an engineer in Mangalore, said: ‘We didn’t know about the first incident, but we knew about the second incident at Father Muller.’ He refused to give further details.

Mr Saldanha said Jacintha spoke to her husband by telephone on the evening of the prank call, which was made at 5.30am on Tuesday, December 4, but did not tell him about her involvement. He added that she spoke to her husband and children twice the following day, but still did not reveal anything, though she told Mr Barboza to watch the news.

Ms Saldanha's medication would have finished in September but it is not known if she was prescribed any more or if staff at the hospital knew of her condition

Mr Saldanha said he believes his sister did not tell her family in the UK or India about the hoax as she felt ashamed.

Mr Barboza became slightly concerned when his wife did not call on Thursday, December 6, but believed she was busy with nursing classes.

On Friday morning, he called a colleague of Ms Saldanha to check on his wife. Hours later, he was told of her death by officers from Avon and Somerset Police.

Last week, the body of Ms Saldanha was flown back to India and buried according to her wishes in the village of Shirva.

Fighting back tears, Mr Saldanha said: ‘I want justice for my sister. I want the British authorities to get the truth. My best memory of my sister was her kindness.’

His wife, Zeena, 34, added: ‘She and the family were supposed to return to India for a holiday early next year. The last time we spoke to her was in November and she sounded so happy.’

Last week, The Mail on Sunday revealed how Ms Saldanha blamed the two DJs for her death in one of three apparent suicide notes. In another note, she criticised ‘aspects of the hospital staff’.

A hospital spokesman declined to comment on reports that Ms Saldanha had previously tried to commit suicide.

Jacintha family demand answers to SIXTY questions of radio station's parent company and the hospital where she worked

THE grieving family of nurse Jacintha Saldanha have sent 60 questions to the Australian media group behind the hoax phone call and the hospital where she committed suicide.

In their search for answers surrounding the death, the family posed 40 questions in a letter to King Edward VII’s Hospital, where Ms Saldanha worked as a nurse and where the Duchess of Cambridge was being treated for acute morning sickness.

They asked a further 20 questions in a letter to Southern Cross Austereo, the parent company of 2Day FM, whose DJs pretended to be the Queen and Prince Charles in the December 4 call, which Ms Saldanha answered.

The family of Ms Saldanha have asked 20 questions in a letter to Southern Cross Austereo, the parent company of 2day FM, whose DJs, including Mel Greig, made the call

Both letters – which have been seen by The Mail on Sunday – were sent by Labour MP Keith Vaz, who is acting as a spokesman for the family at their request.

In a letter to John Lofthouse, the hospital’s chief executive, Mr Vaz wrote: ‘On December 11 the family handed you a list of questions that specifically relate to the hospital. They have not had a written confirmation of the answers. They now have additional questions [and] would like answers . .  . as soon as possible.’

The questions suggest the hospital may not have taken extra security measures during the Duchess’s stay. The family also ask: ‘Was there any indication that Jacintha was under increased pressure or stress in the weeks preceding her death?’

One question suggests Ms Saldanha may have been involved in a dispute with a colleague a few weeks before the Duchess was admitted. Another implies that the 46-year-old, whose body was discovered on December 7, may have been ‘spoken to’ by the hospital’s matron by telephone a day after the prank call.

The letter to Southern Cross Austereo asks if there is ‘any evidence’ that 2Day FM staff called the hospital five times to alert them that they were about to broadcast the prank. The letter also questions why no staff at the station or parent company have attempted to contact the family since the hoax call.

Ms Saldanha’s husband Benedict Barboza, son Junal and adopted daughter Lisha were greeted by Mr Vaz at Heathrow Airport yesterday on their return to Britain after the funeral of the nurse in India.

Southern Cross Austereo could not be reached for a comment.

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I wonder if she wrote 3 suicide notes for each of her previous attempts.
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Karnataka concerned over Savitha, Jacintha deaths: Former CM

http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...gadish-shettar

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"Being an NRI myself I suggest that the Karnataka politicians to think of the annual 3,000 to 5,000 suicides happening in Karnataka. The numbers of suicides in Karnataka, especially among the farmers are mind-boggling. The state has also forcibly taken land from the poor to hand over to the rich business houses, in the name SEZ - driving the suicides even higher. The politicians are not needed to worry about 1 or 2 suicides happening in European countries. There are already plenty of systems in place. And also, there are a million Karnatakans working the Gulf. The Government has been completely absent from helping the poor Karnatakans in the Gulf. Shame on the Karnataka politicians"
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A royal source said: “The couple’s decision to spend Christmas with the Middletons at Bucklebury just seemed to make sense, given the circumstances.”

er, what circumstances? The princess seemed pretty chipper at the sports award ceremony and I'm sure Alan Farthing would be reachable if he were needed at Sandringham. It doesn't make sense. The Telegaph was already telegraphing this eventuality over a week ago:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-sickness.html
The Duchess of Cambridge could miss the Royal family’s traditional Christmas get-together at Sandringham as she continues to be laid low by severe pregnancy sickness, aides have conceded.
Caitlin Dean, of the charity Pregnancy Sickness Support, said it would be unwise for the Duchess to risk the journey to Sandringham, even she feels better, because long journeys can trigger relapses of the condition.

She said: “The key to this condition is that a woman suffering with it shouldn’t be put under any pressure to do things like that.

Sandringham is an awfully long way to travel and doing things like that can trigger relapses, so there should be no expectation on her to attend. Why should she have to do that if it’s going to put her at risk of becoming unwell?

“She would be a long way from the hospital, so let’s get things in perspective; having a low-key quiet time is surely far more important than feeling you have to attend a big family Christmas.”

The Duchess has already missed four public engagements as a result of her pregnancy sickness, the most recent of which was the Royal Film Performance of The Hobbit on Wednesday night.

If she does not make an appearance at Sandringham it could mean she is not seen in public until well into next year.


Very strange. But Caitlin should know, she runs the blog Spewing Mummy
http://spewingmummy.blogspot.co.uk/

The Mail wrote on 7 December:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...on-Palace.html
Caitlin Dean, who suffered from hyperemesis gravidarum during three pregnancies and is a trustee of the charity, said: ‘One of the key things is she needs rest in bed or on a sofa.

'She will need people to look after her, literally bring food to her and quickly, if she wants a piece of toast or an apple it needs to come straight away before a bout of nausea sets in'



So, none of that possible just outside Kings Lynn/RAF Marham/Hunstanton beach with countless flunkeys on hand to supply toast or apples???

The biggest news of the year for Spewing Mummy yet no further posts since 6 December....
http://spewingmummy.blogspot.co.uk/2.../big-news.html

"...the hospital... " [definitive article] being the KE VII, I guess... and Bucklebury is perhaps only half the distance to the KE VII compared with Sandringham; not perhaps an "awfully" long way, just a "long way" from central London.


The Middletons' Christmas should be blissfully calm
http://www.exacteditions.com/browse/5/2/34119/3/9/
Nowhere in England is an awfully long way from anywhere else in England LOL!!!

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Despite all the oddities about this case, a history of depression would make the official explanation more believable.

Why do we only learn about this history now?
Yep, another red herring that starts to put the majority of blame on an alleged victim? I didn't think it would be long before the MSM started with their nasty "digging" in order to uphold an agenda.
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I wonder if she wrote 3 suicide notes for each of her previous attempts.
RAOFL. spot on.

"is thought to have come to the UK from southern India ten years ago"

"Jacintha has worked at the King Edward VII's Hospital for more than four years"


but chooses to go suicidal, conveniently, in India. I smell BS.
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Three scenarios this "previous history of depression" revelation gives us -

1. Family denied she had history of depression because they wanted to apportion blame for death. Her family were aware she was taking anti-depressants for the first 9 months of 2012, and had previously been in hospital after a suicide attempt. So after Jacintha died, her family in Bristol and India lied to press that she had "no history of depression" so someone else got the blame.

2. Family have changed their story because they have been bought off, somehow - possibly combination of threats and financial incentives - and have agreed to release a fake story about previous suicide attempt to straighten out the story.

3. The whole episode was faked. All actors. The real and only victims are the DJs. The intention of the faked death was Problem Reaction Solution to change laws on free communication.


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And, while we are on the subject of Vaz, does anyone else but me think that it’s slightly cringe worthy, not to mention creepy, how he keeps hugging the family in tight embraces, despite the apparent lack of tears?

He is particularly fond of doing it to Jacintha’s 14 yr old adopted daughter Lisha, by continually pulling her towards him. Shouldn’t that be her Fathers job?

Then again, obviously not since I haven’t seen him do it once – as you would expect him to have done, since we are continually told by the MSM what a close knit family they are.

However, I have to say that judging from what I have seen, their whole dynamics of a loving family are wrong. They appear more like strangers than a closely knit grieving family. But, once again, perhaps that is just me.
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Jacintha therefore could not have killed herself because of the humiliation. She was not, repeat, was not, humiliated by the DJ in any way, shape, or form. Course, according to the MSM there is now a note, one of three suicide notes apparently, which we are told blames the Cruel hoax/ practical JOKE as the reason why the nurse topped herself.

However, it is extremely strange to say the least, that not even Jacintha’s husband was told of the existence of these 3 notes, let alone the contents until nearly a full week after the fact. Moreover, it seems that neither he nor anyone else is allowed to see these 3 notes and as such has had to make do with a typed transcript… Not a photocopy… A typed transcript!

If that does not set alarm bells ringing in people’s heads, ask yourself why he is not allowed to see them. This is supposedly a suicide, which the police have categorically stated that they are NOT treating as suspicious. Therefore, if there is no investigation, why the fuck has Jacintha’s husband, Rocky Barboza not been given the notes.
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Now, while the article does not make it clear if that is the picture of the Jacintha that died or the jacintha that is alive and lives in Kinnagoli, I will presume that it is the dead Jacintha, since she is pictured with two teenage children – a boy and a girl. However, Jacintha’s son is very dark skinned where as the boy in the photo is very light skinned, although that could be down to the lighting of course.

However, what is strange is that this photo was obviously selected from a batch taken at the same time, place and day as the one used on the order of service pamphlet for Jacintha’s memorial service as well as a cropped version of the above photo being used on a memorial picture that her husband is seen holding in a photo.

“So what”, I hear you say.

Well, does it not strike you as odd that photos of the ‘much loved’ Jacintha appear to be in such short supply that they all have to come from one batch? And, why Are photo’s of Jacintha so few and far between that her husband is forced to use edited photo’s of his beloved wife on a memorial picture and one from the same batch on the order of service pamphlet?
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Old 23-12-2012, 03:02 PM   #1416
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Yes, the whole thing makes me feel sick and yes, the photos do seem to have come from the same 'roll' - nothing appears to be genuine at all. Again, why is nobody asking the questions or at least seen to be asking the questions ? I can't fathom it but although I have only been on these forums a matter of weeks I can believe it.
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Apologies if this has already been posted:


Exclusive: Jacintha Saldhana would never have committed suicide, claim her UAE nurse friends


Rather goes against the Daily Mail angle...

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Old 23-12-2012, 07:25 PM   #1418
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[QUOTE=estelle2012;1061214712]Royal nurse who answered hoax call about Duchess of Cambridge had attempted to kill herself twice before

Jacintha Saldanha made two attempts to kill herself last winter
The nurse took an overdose during visit to India
She survived but tried to jump from a building nine days later
Family now demanding answers of Australian media group and hospital

By Abul Taher

PUBLISHED:23:00 GMT, 22 December 2012| UPDATED: 23:00 GMT, 22 December 2012


.........Although Ms Saldanha’s family have previously said she did not have a history of depression, new reports suggest she has been battling the condition since at least December last year............



...................Mr Barboza became slightly concerned when his wife did not call on Thursday, December 6, but believed she was busy with nursing classes...................................


It seems totally incredible that Jacintha's familiy would have denied a history of depression at the beginning.
If Jacintha had been depressed they would not have been so obviously surprised but expected her suicide.

And conversely we now know, that Jacintha was busy with nursing classes.
Does this mean that Jacintha had plans for her future and was realizing them?
That does not sound like the actions of a fatally depressed woman at all.

And looking at her suicide:

There were reports of cuts across the wrists, but as there are no reports of an artery being injured or blood being lost, it sounds like a blatantly obvious very ineffective attempt to commit suicide.

And the report about her attempted hanging with a scarf does not say anything about a broken neck - only that she was unconscious when she was found.
That implies that her heart was beating and that she was breathing. So we can infer that her attempt to strangle herself was ineffective also.

One might wonder what the cause of her death is as there were no reports whatsoever, at least not that I am aware of, that she haden taken any medicines or overdose.

Sometimes I wonder if the authorities invoked some sort of silence for the usual reasons of national security?

Maybe it was something along those lines:

The royals looked for a reason to explain Kate's stay at a hospital.
They had the idea to invent the story of Hyperemesis Gravidarum.
Surely, a pityful report of Kate's morning sickness would get her a little sympathy from the people who rather expressed their contempt for Kate Do-Little.
At the same time the aura of pregnancy would hopefully exempt Kate from any criticism - just in case.
Who would even care if Kate sneezed with a flu or coughed with a pneumonia severely enough to warrant a stay at the hospital?

But what if Kate needed an innocent hospital stay to get pregnant by artificial insemination?
Maybe this was the only way for her to produce an heir to the throne.

As this procedure ususally results in more that one foetus we should not be surprised if the royals announce that she is pregnant with twins.

Maybe then the 2. nurse, with the veiled Australian accent, who seemingly disappeared from the surface of this planet, served to reinforce the notion of the morning sickness hoax.

But if Kate Do-Little would have giggled and not thrown a scene, thereby putting the hospital under pressure, everything would have been fine.
Abd the entire drama could have been avoided.
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Old 24-12-2012, 12:50 AM   #1419
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Spivey's a good read
All fake. Upto the suicide/death? Or including it??? Idea of future Royal miscarriage at a time tba appealing
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Concerning the nursing classes, when I read about them, I assumed she was holding them - not attending them - as she was a senior nurse. So she worked a night shift and then had to attend or give nursing classes as well.

A comment about depression in families, there is often shame involved so no one talks about it and once the patient is put on anti-depressants, others can think all is OK again. But if Jacintha went off her antidepressants, then it could come back. Accountant husbands can be rational types and not understand female emotions.

If these suicides are genuine, it means that something very serious was going on for a long time before December 2011 and her two attempts in India were a cry for help and possibly a sign that she did not want to go back to work in that hospital after the holiday.

It looks as if the husband may not have revealed this due to compensation claims by blaming others. Her brother only knew about the second suicide attempt. Did he spill the beans to the media?

If the hospital knew about this history, they should have made sure she had the appropriate help. However, if someone wanted to murder her and set it up as a suicide, they had the perfect chance for people to beleive it due to past history.

I would still like to know who gave the DJs the phone no or did they simply phone the switchboard as they said, "we were given a no to call". If it was not the usual phone no, were they set up to make the call by someone who knew that royal security was lacking at night and that Jacintha would be the one to answer it?

It looks to me as if the DJs will be let off the hook eventually but they have been excellent scapegoats in the meantime for the British to blame.

I had hoped that Barboza would have had a second post mortem done in India.

It is interesting that the hospital has set up a fund and has not donated anyting themselves but expect the radio station to put their money into it. I hope they have not parted with their money yet as it appears that the husband has not been fully transparent and the hospital has taken no responsibility. I guess we will have to wait for the inquest to learn the facts. I am surprised that Barboza is already back in the UK.
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