Anonymous: Operation Jubilee, 5th November 2012

[danny fremen]

The mysterious group "Anonymous" have picked up on the event to take place on the 5th November 2012 at the House of Parliament in London, and published this video on the net:-

Anonymous: Operation Jubilee - YouTube

Anonymous: Operation Jubilee - YouTube

It was mentioned and played during Muad'Dib's latest radio broadcast with criticalmassradio.co.uk , where the event was discussed.

http://www.mixcloud.com/cmr/the-pris...g-and-muaddib/

http://www.mixcloud.com/cmr/the-pris...guest-muaddib/

Muad'Dib comes on around the 64 minute mark in Part One, and remains for the duration of Part Two.

[duckingdafta]

No Tweet results for #0pJubilee or for #OpJubilee..

[danny fremen]

Operation Jubilee: Rules of Engagement. - YouTube

Operation Jubilee: Rules of Engagement. - YouTube

OPERATION JUBILEE - RULES OF ENGAGEMENT

Rally Millions To
Parliament, London
5 November 2012

Cancel All Debt
Stop War
Redistribute the Land
Eliminate Poverty

operationjubilee.in
facebook.com/opjubilee
twitter.com/opjubilee
hashtag #OpJubilee
youtu.be/XfCjllHD7V0
vimeo.com/48318012

[mr stoppitall]

Damn tough call,you are either going to the bonfire to burn Guy Fawkes or you are off to London the 'blow up' the houses of parliament.

[majorlee]

is this in line with muad'dib???

i thought he had another agenda?

[danny fremen]

Originally Posted by majorlee

is this in line with muad'dib???

Your question isn't very specific but I'll give you a "yes" if you are asking whether these Anonymous videos are in line with Muad'Dib's own efforts.

Originally Posted by majorlee

i thought he had another agenda?

He was the one who called for it nearly a year ago, in Nazi Banksters' Crimes Ripple Effect.

[bodine48]

Originally Posted by danny fremen

Your question isn't very specific but I'll give you a "yes" if you are asking whether these Anonymous videos are in line with Muad'Dib's own efforts.




He was the one who called for it nearly a year ago, in Nazi Banksters' Crimes Ripple Effect.

And how many people do you expect to turn out for this demonstration? How do the people demonstrating intend to arrest police who beat them back, and finally, do the people intend to use violence against violence perpetrated on them by the police?

To stop the police and take them down, you will need many, many thousands of people who are prepared to fight back.

[danny fremen]

Originally Posted by bodine48

And how many people do you expect to turn out for this demonstration?

All those who are sick of the greed and corruption in high places, and who can make it.

1. Spread the message – this is the simplest helpful thing to do. The most effective way is to talk to your trusted friends about the operation. It’s best to keep it simple to prevent rumors and avoid disinformation. THERE IS GOING TO BE A MARCH ON NOVEMBER 5TH. IF ENOUGH PEOPLE COME, WE’LL BE IN POSITION TO MAKE DEMANDS OF THE GOVERNMENT.

http://users1.jabry.com/OperationJubilee/updates.html

Originally Posted by bodine48

How do the people demonstrating intend to arrest police who beat them back, and finally, do the people intend to use violence against violence perpetrated on them by the police?

To stop the police and take them down, you will need many, many thousands of people who are prepared to fight back.

"Taking them down" can be misconstrued to mean something else. People should only employ the minimum amount of force necessary to subdue any persons committing criminal acts, regardless of their clothes. Hopefully no-one will commit any criminal acts, but the time to act like sheep and watch as wolves drag fellow sheep away and beat them, is past.

If many thousands don't come, then nothing will happen, except things will get worse and worse. At the end of the day, it's what you stood up for that counts.

[bemore]

Anonymous....

RAP NEWS X: 2012 (feat. Anonymous & Noam Chomsky) - YouTube

RAP NEWS X: 2012 (feat. Anonymous & Noam Chomsky) - YouTube

[danny fremen]

Originally Posted by bemore

Anonymous....

Which Anonymous?

You might as well say "Human beings" and roll your eyes, since "we are all Anonymous". That's the beauty of it.

[bemore]

Originally Posted by danny fremen

Which Anonymous?

You might as well say "Human beings" and roll your eyes, since "we are all Anonymous". That's the beauty of it.

You are all anonymous.... yet you are led by the simplicity of videos and online communitys of "faceless" people.

Study the origins of anonymous.... go on their forums.... its not all about "freeing the world"

[mr stoppitall]

There is one sure way to gauge if this will happen or not,sales of them V masks would skyrocket.

[danny fremen]

Originally Posted by bemore

You are all anonymous.... yet you are led by the simplicity of videos and online communitys of "faceless" people.

Study the origins of anonymous.... go on their forums.... its not all about "freeing the world"

We are all anonymous.

The videos are for information, and food for thought.

Instead of addressing the actual videos I posted, you post something totally unrelated, i.e. a strawman. All it has in common is the name "Anonymous", which just means a human being thought of/did it. And now, your second post also contains nothing about the actual subject, and you ask me to look at forums which don't have the ideas that I like and support? People who say "we never forgive"? and talk about "hiveminds" like if they were insects? No thanks mate. I'm with those who believe "there can be no forgiveness without true repentance." I'm with those who say "if you feel as I feel."

This thread is about Operation Jubilee. Please stick to the subject.

[danny fremen]

Originally Posted by mr stoppitall

There is one sure way to gauge if this will happen or not,sales of them V masks would skyrocket.

Look at Bemore's sig:-

"We need each other's help."

If people start living by it, then that is the only sure way it will happen.

[danny fremen]

This provides a good outline for those who aren't very clear on what Operation Jubilee is all about:-

OPERATION JUBILEE - Land Ownership Inequality

REDISTRIBUTE THE LAND.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ickstart-u k-economy
It’s not only that the very rich have colossal wealth, they also overwhelmingly monopolise it. The richest 1% of the population own a quarter of total UK wealth, and the richest half control no less than 94% of total wealth. Ownership of land is even more skewed: 69% of it is owned by 0.3% of the population.

http://www.newstatesman.com/society/201 ... ur-britain
In broad outline, the UK is 60 million acres in size, of which 41 million are designated “agricultural” land, 15 million are so-called natural wastage (forests, rivers, mountains and so on) and owned by institutions such as the Forestry Commission and the Ministry of Defence, and four million are the “urban plot”, the densely congested land on which most of the 61 million people of these islands live.

In sum, 69 per cent of the acreage of Britain is owned by 0.6 per cent of the population. Or, more pertinently, 158,000 families own 41 million acres of land, while 24 million families live on the four million acres of the urban plot. No other country in Europe, apart from Spain, has such an unequal concentration of land ownership. The single wealthiest landowner is the Duke of Westminster, who owns hundreds of acres of prime real estate and land in Belgravia and Mayfair.

As Cahill said, there is no shortage of available and uncultivated land in Britain – the landowners’ estates are vast and, in areas such as the Cotswolds and parts of Scotland, say, omnipresent. What Britain suffers from, especially in the south-east of England, is a shortage of land on which housing can be built. As a result, the urban plot becomes ever more congested, land values and property prices continue to grow – because scarcity of land attracts a premium value – and our young people, many of them debt-burdened from their university years or struggling to find work in a recession, cannot afford to buy a flat, let alone a house. This forces them into the twilight world of short-term rents and disreputable landlords.


REDISTRIBUTE THE LAND. CANCEL ALL DEBT. Land ownership typically implies house ownership. There are many obvious benefits of having land and a house. Please, consider what home ownership means to you. Some statistics estimate home ownership in the UK at about 68%, but most of those people probably have mortgages. Cancelling the debt will remove the mortgages and then these people can really own the houses, because their ownership will no longer be conditional on being able to make mortgage payments. The remaining 32%, which probably includes a lot of young people, who need the houses the most to be able to start business, families, and raise children, can be given land and houses outright – most people already live in houses and there are empty houses and land, so there should be enough land and houses for everyone. There is also a lot of land that is owned by organized religions and billionaires that don’t need all that land – that land can be used to build families, small businesses and communities in their place. While it is true that some pieces of land are better than others, there should be plenty of good land and houses for everyone and most people will end up much better off as a result than they are now. The savings on mortgages can be considered as credit to be used to boost the economy. Paying for rent and debt does not actually produce anything, but simply transfers wealth to those who own land and banks from those who don’t. By removing the burdens of rent and debt, people can focus on working towards actually creating wealth doing what they are best at and people should also have more money to spend on the products and services of others. Land ownership provides additional opportunities, because it gives people places to set up shops and small businesses. If people don’t have to take jobs to pay rent or mortgages, they can start businesses to develop their talents and have the time to nurture the businesses. People are more productive when they do what they enjoy doing and what they are best at and small businesses help build strong communities. Increases in productivity, additional economic opportunities that come with land ownership, and more available funds should translate into greater wealth for the whole nation that everyone should be able to benefit from.

If millions of people want to do it, it can be done. If millions of people gather at the Houses of Parliament all the questions of how exactly to carry out land redistribution and debt forgiveness can be resolved peacefully and justly. The presence of millions of people should persuade the military and the police that it is best to join their fellow countrymen and claim their share of the nation’s wealth and future, rather than continue being the tools of oppression of a small, greedy and corrupt elite. With millions of people openly participating, all questions regarding equal land distribution should be possible to resolve justly, since nobody would want to cheat others, because then they themselves could get cheated, and if someone does try to cheat others it should quickly become obvious to others and in the crowd of millions, a person trying to rip people off would be in a perilous situation. One point that people bring up is that over time, economic inequality happens again, and if it does it’s simply a matter of declaring another Jubilee. The matters of debt forgiveness are even simpler to resolve, because unlike with land, cancelling debt does not require a physical transfer of objects, but a simple shuffling of paperwork and computer numbers, the simplicity stemming from the fact that the bulk of paperwork will be considered void and computer databases simply wiped out.

The largest land owners are self-proclaimed elites and organized religions; it is their holdings that will be used to pay for the bulk of the Jubilee. For millennia, organized religions have been parasites on society, hoarding treasures and land, while offering no benefit to society, and usually harming society through unjust persecutions, wasteful rituals, countless wars, and subversion of individual pursuits of virtue. If they really serve God, they don’t need expensive jewellery and lots of land to do it, so the land of organized religions can be redistributed. Corrupt elites hold high-level positions in state and private enterprise and consider themselves to be above the common people, hence the term elite. They also consider themselves above the law and use paid-for legislators, personal networks and expensive lawyers to apply different legal standards to themselves than to others. One particular example is the queen, who enjoys all kinds of special benefits at the expense of the nation. More commonly, the elites use expensive lawyers to give themselves a legal advantage whenever they feel they need it in their pursuit of multiplying their wealth at your expense, or when they commit crimes and get caught. The elites also control and include politicians, who twist the laws to give an even greater legal advantage to the elites, to funnel public funds to them, and to grant the elites privileges above the working people. The elites even have the audacity to claim that their ruthless profiteering is their contribution to society and they say it’s hard work so they deserve to have all that wealth, and that if you were as treacherous and conniving as they are, then you would have that much wealth too. Through their positions in society and government they control the military industrial complex and declare wars to build their empires on the blood of working people. They use their intelligence assets to carry out false flag attacks to manipulate the public into supporting and fighting their wars. They use their business as fronts for the drug trade and their banks to launder the drug money. Their control of military, intelligence, businesses and banking allows them to maintain control of Afghanistan to profit from poisoning the world with heroin and they similarly control and profit from other aspects of the global drug trade. The elites engineered the debt crisis to increase their control of world finance and to accelerate the transfer of wealth from the working people to themselves through bail-outs that benefit the “too big to fail” elites at the expense of everyone else after those very elites have reaped record profits to cause the crisis to begin with and to place virtually everyone else in debt to them. They are building a police state with legislation, surveillance and police for the sake of putting themselves above the working class people and maintaining their obscene wealth and power. Presiding over all this is an impostor monarch, crowned on a counterfeit Stone of Destiny, sworn to broken oaths, party to countless crimes, including murder of Princess Diana, and the largest land owner on the planet, enjoying special treatment and legal status above the people that she has sworn to serve. It’s their crimes that got us into this mess, so they are the ones that should pay. This should also hopefully be a lesson to others to prevent them from doing the same thing in the future. They have worked very hard to cheat people and if we do this Jubilee then all their cunning and deception will have been for nothing. If you think that it’s right for them to accumulate ridiculous wealth at your expense, if you are happy with your position as an employee, if you prefer to rent a house instead of owning it, if you like being in debt to them and paying interest to make them even richer, while you work to be able to make interest payments and to pay rent and they enjoy the products of your labour, if you support the wars they declare in your name, if you like paying taxes so they can use your money to place you under increasing amounts of surveillance and build a police state, so that they can charge you more fees, taxes and fines to funnel into more of their projects – if you think that this is the way things should be, then the Jubilee is not for you, and we suggest you allow the 5th of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what we see, if you feel as we feel, then meet us in front of Parliament on November 5th and together we shall give them a 5th of November that shall never ever be forgotten.

In the meanwhile, join the Anonymous Operation Jubilee and keep track of it to make sure we get millions of people to show up. Getting millions of people to show up is important to prevent the police and the military from bullying us. Stay Anonymous and help others be Anonymous for the sake of security. Consider again the benefits of having your own house and put in the amount of effort accordingly – it might take you a couple of decades of hard work to save up for a house, and here you might get it in a couple of weeks together with your debts wiped out. The more people show up, the less work it is per person and the safer it is, so get as many people to join as possible.

Anons world-wide, show solidarity with your UK brothers and spread the message, and if you like the idea, declare a Jubilee in your nation.

http://users1.jabry.com/OperationJubilee/updates.html

[gremlin]

Originally Posted by bemore

You are all anonymous.... yet you are led by the simplicity of videos and online communitys of "faceless" people.

Study the origins of anonymous.... go on their forums.... its not all about "freeing the world"

I just don't trust annonymous.

Rich kids with computers.

[danny fremen]

More info:-

J for justice - The Incredible Story Of Muad Dib And His 7/7 Ripple Effect - YouTube

J for justice - The Incredible Story Of Muad Dib And His 7/7 Ripple Effect - YouTube

[bemore]

Originally Posted by danny fremen

People who say "we never forgive"? and talk about "hiveminds" like if they were insects? No thanks mate. I'm with those who believe "there can be no forgiveness without true repentance." I'm with those who say "if you feel as I feel."

In that case either the "anonymous" brand is changing or it is dividing and splitting

Originally Posted by danny fremen

This thread is about Operation Jubilee. Please stick to the subject.

Ok ill stick to your subject of Operation Jubilee and ill go by personal experience of two "anonymous" rallies I have attended and what I have seen on the internet. I estimate a very small turn out of people, some standing round in stupid masks. Some will have informational leaflets but a lot of it will contain stupid slogans like the mask and also the "we do not forgive/forget" slogan... the leaflets (possibly copied from anon forums) will look more like recruitment than actual solid factual information.

You can say im negative blah blah blah but I can only go by previous rallies, so I keep it realistic.

It is of my personal opinion to "fuck" anonymous, that you dont need to "label" yourself and you dont need put yourself in any "box".

On the positive side though, if you do plan on attending and want to make some informational flyers than I would be happy to discuss with you on their content and will help you with what knowledge I do have on politics and the economy or any other subject that you wish to try to bring awareness of.

[danny fremen]

Originally Posted by bemore

In that case either the "anonymous" brand is changing or it is dividing and splitting



Ok ill stick to your subject of Operation Jubilee and ill go by personal experience of two "anonymous" rallies I have attended and what I have seen on the internet. I estimate a very small turn out of people, some standing round in stupid masks. Some will have informational leaflets but a lot of it will contain stupid slogans like the mask and also the "we do not forgive/forget" slogan... the leaflets (possibly copied from anon forums) will look more like recruitment than actual solid factual information.

You can say im negative blah blah blah but I can only go by previous rallies, so I keep it realistic.

It is of my personal opinion to "fuck" anonymous, that you dont need to "label" yourself and you dont need put yourself in any "box".

On the positive side though, if you do plan on attending and want to make some informational flyers than I would be happy to discuss with you on their content and will help you with what knowledge I do have on politics and the economy or any other subject that you wish to try to bring awareness of.

Thank-you Bemore. There is certainly nothing stopping anyone from making their own leaflets (downloadable for others), with what they would like to happen on, and beyond, the 5th November 2012, and no requirement to use the "Anonymous" label if you do not wish to.

There are several "groups" holding gatherings that day, including different types of Anonymous, but not solely.

Even for those who don't plan on attending, at least please help spread the word that it's taking place. Even just emailing a couple of friends, and letting them know about this, is helpful. Thanks.

[azureaura]

are the police going to be arrested, if they cause trouble, as well as any anarchists be they undercover cops or employed by them?

this would give security for even more to attend, coupled with the anonmyous mask.