Who lets them in?

[trux newman]

Varying sources all seem to agree that the reptilian entities come from lower dimensions, or hell dimensions if you want to use that word. Given that they're here, that presents two options:

1. We're in a hell world and they belong here.

2. We're not in a hell world and someone here is letting them in somehow.

Because love and beauty and awesomeness exists here, I don't believe 1 is a valid option, so that leaves option 2. Someone is letting them in to our realm.

Who is it though? And why?

[ufochick]

Originally Posted by trux newman

Varying sources all seem to agree that the reptilian entities come from lower dimensions, or hell dimensions if you want to use that word. Given that they're here, that presents two options:

1. We're in a hell world and they belong here.

2. We're not in a hell world and someone here is letting them in somehow.

Because love and beauty and awesomeness exists here, I don't believe 1 is a valid option, so that leaves option 2. Someone is letting them in to our realm.

Who is it though? And why?

We give them access when we vibrate at alow enough rate to allow them to ride along. They can see into our dimension and touch us with tools but cannot enter our dimension in the flesh so when we match their low vibration they hop on and ride along. Or when a person gives up and leaves or is removed soul wise they use the body.

[blaze9]

They turned the earth into a prison they can pretty much phase betwen the dimensions without problems. All this hell/heaven/realms talk is just part of the game to confuse the peoples even further while its relatively simple, the one dimension at least the basic dimension which is the only dimension that they have access to due to their evil nature is layered here on the earth and around it into 2 or 3 dimensions due to the magnetosphere. The illusion game is played here to ultimately brainwash, chip and ''recruit'' as much as possible while on the otherside humans know and see that they are prisonners once they ''die'' here at least most I suppose if they aren't dragged,put to sleep and re-inserted automatically back into the ''reincarnation'' cycle via the technologies in place aka that supposed soul catcher installation on the moon

[blaze9]

Originally Posted by ufochick

We give them access when we vibrate at alow enough rate to allow them to ride along. They can see into our dimension and touch us with tools but cannot enter our dimension in the flesh so when we match their low vibration they hop on and ride along. Or when a person gives up and leaves or is removed soul wise they use the body.

Some high ranking reps had the technology on themselves to phase in and out, the greys rarely unless they get it for special abduction orders I suppose. They can also phase with their ships

[trux newman]

Originally Posted by ufochick

Or when a person gives up and leaves or is removed soul wise they use the body.

Do you mean like walkins? I thought only higher beings do that but I guess it makes sense that lower ones would, too.

Perhaps it's related to the 'empty people'. I think that overpopulation made true souls/spirits coming here run out, so filling the planet with empty people that can be used in this way by beings that shouldn't rightly be here.

Originally Posted by blaze9

that supposed soul catcher installation on the moon

I'm hoping that isn't true. Nor Swerdlow's claim that they suck us in there and eat our souls when we die.

[merodach]

If by 'reptilians' we mean malevolent entities then I suspect that such an idea exists as a thoughtform made manifest by the turmoil of the subconscious - or as Jung might say, the 'collective unconscious'. In this respect, it is you and I who let them in.

It may also be noteworthy to suppose that whilst most people are unaware of the manifest dangers of the subconscious mind, and being unaware of the will to power, there are those who are indeed aware of it and utilize its products to various ends.

[blaze9]

Originally Posted by trux newman

I'm hoping that isn't true. Nor Swerdlow's claim that they suck us in there and eat our souls when we die.

I dunno but given what is going on here I wouldnt be surprised it would really reduce their ''work'' and the moon is a base in itself filled with all kind of installations. That old ''go to the light thing'' or tunnel

[blaze9]

Originally Posted by merodach

If by 'reptilians' we mean malevolent entities then I suspect that such an idea exists as a thoughtform made manifest by the turmoil of the subconscious - or as Jung might say, the 'collective unconscious'. In this respect, it is you and I who let them in.

It may also be noteworthy to suppose that whilst most people are unaware of the manifest dangers of the subconscious mind, and being unaware of the will to power, there are those who are indeed aware of it and utilize its products to various ends.

Thoughtforms made manifest is bollock, what else would apply to this ? Nothing. You may attract danger with fear, they know this too well and play on it but you wont materialise your wildest wishes in a matter of minutes. You'll reach your goals with positive thinking or you'll bring your demise with negativity but you'll never spawn beings with your subconcious, their biggest mindfuck is to make you believe that they dont exist per se. They sure play around with their various holographic technologies

[merodach]

Originally Posted by blaze9

Thoughtforms made manifest is bollock

My dear fellow, a disagreement of such emotional reflexivity based merely on proposition and conjecture is a little beneath you, surely?

If you would like to share, politely please, the insight of the illuminated and the adept?

Perhaps it is that we disagree as to the physical rather than psychological existence of these ideas, which may seem real in terms of our own personal experience but which may or may not exist outside of such subjective accounts.

[bikerdruid]

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[blaze9]

Originally Posted by merodach

My dear fellow, a disagreement of such emotional reflexivity based merely on proposition and conjecture is a little beneath you, surely?

If you would like to share, politely please, the insight of the illuminated and the adept?

Perhaps it is that we disagree as to the physical rather than psychological existence of these ideas, which may seem real in terms of our own personal experience but which may or may not exist outside of such subjective accounts.

Imo thoughtforms are very real but not apply in this case. I should have said instead; Manifesting their existance via thoughtforms is bollock. But if someone fear them they will manifest to the opportunity of sucking his energy and will change their appearances according to the target's biggest fears, same thing with their ghost/spirit charade.

Snake bloodline, symbology, humans hybrid anatomy, the way of living this planet is blatantly a prison atm, the ''form'' the idea of the reptilians can't just be something spawned by the subconscious. David Icke turned to this theory for some time after his ayahuasca trip, needless to say it was one of their manipulation.

[trux newman]

Originally Posted by blaze9

David Icke turned to this theory for some time after his ayahuasca trip, needless to say it was one of their manipulation.

People who take that speak of serpents talking to them don't they. The rainbow serpent or something.

[blaze9]

Originally Posted by trux newman

People who take that speak of serpents talking to them don't they. The rainbow serpent or something.

Yeah I heard so too, bad stuff. Supposedly it also open the door for posession in a much more drastic way than the other drugs/psychedelic substances

[trux newman]

Originally Posted by blaze9

Yeah I heard so too, bad stuff. Supposedly it also open the door for posession in a much more drastic way than the other drugs/psychedelic substances

It worries me how relaxed some peope are about using such things. Traditionally, the only people who would use such substances were trainee shamans who'd been given years of training and understanding. Today any of us can give some shamanic center some money and go try it. Then go back to our day job in a controlled society?

The way I see it, if you take a substance that allows you to leave your body and walk in other realms, with no proper education or training, then how the hell do you know you're coming back? I've seen a video of David talking about himself when he was a tv presenter. He said something like, "I'm not that guy". Did he mean he'd changed so much he didn't recognise himself, or was he being literal?

[merodach]

[QUOTE=blaze9;1061053671]
Snake bloodline, symbology, humans hybrid anatomy[QUOTE]

Still rather fond of 'bollock' aren't we? Ah, well, this is the Internet.

Regardless, have you personally experienced or observed, pragmatically, any evidence of this 'human hybrid' or 'reptilian shape-shifting' phenomenon?

[trux newman]

Originally Posted by merodach

Still rather fond of 'bollock' aren't we? Ah, well, this is the Internet.

Regardless, have you personally experienced or observed, pragmatically, any evidence of this 'human hybrid' or 'reptilian shape-shifting' phenomenon?

That isn't the point of this thread. The question is asked based on the assumption that they do exist. If you don't think they do and can't join the discussion on a hypothetical basis then please refrain from posting.

[merodach]

Originally Posted by trux newman

If you don't think they do and can't join the discussion on a hypothetical basis then please refrain from posting.

I don’t know whether ‘they exist’, though I strongly suspect something.

To be honest, I have found it difficult to follow the conversation.
On review, I see it is rather more a ‘dialogue’ and that I am ‘butting in’ somewhat. I am attempting to ascertain what people’s views are (as per my introductory post) and to mention that I do not appreciate or respect impoliteness or argument ad hominem.
My suggestions have been no more or less valid that others. I would like a rational communication.

On topic, I speak from my experiences and find that even if the assumption (a dangerous thing indeed) were to persist, it could be any number of things.
For example, I assume that substances are used in shamanic ritual and ritual in other forms but this has not been my own experience.
As to making someone more susceptible to ‘possession’ I think this is a valid comment. (I also think physical or psychological trauma can have the same effect).

The idea of possession by an 'entity' is much more convincing than literal physical reptilian hybrids (again this comes back to evidence, anecdotal or otherwise).

[trux newman]

Originally Posted by merodach

I don’t know whether ‘they exist’, though I strongly suspect something.

I've given up on knowing if they exist or not. People say they do and some claim to see them all the time, but all requests for physical evidence fail. I don't think we'll ever know until one pops up infront of us, so I'm moving past it and saying, ok, let's assume for arguments sake they're real, what next? I just don't want to get dragged down by the usual "Yes they do!" "No they don't!" arguments.

Originally Posted by merodach

On topic, I speak from my experiences and find that even if the assumption (a dangerous thing indeed) were to persist, it could be any number of things.
For example, I assume that substances are used in shamanic ritual and ritual in other forms but this has not been my own experience.
As to making someone more susceptible to ‘possession’ I think this is a valid comment. (I also think physical or psychological trauma can have the same effect).

The idea of possession by an 'entity' is much more convincing than literal physical reptilian hybrids (again this comes back to evidence, anecdotal or otherwise).

I favour the posession theory over the physical reptilians, simply as you and I are spirits posessing a body right now. If we can do it, surely other entities can? Drugs designed to be used by shamans living in a culture that doesn't exist anymore, with training that doesn't exist anymore, is highly dangerous in my opinion. Magical texts all warn of the dangers of going insane (which I believe is posession). I agree with trauma too. During both experiences we leave our bodies. Without that training and support, how do we know we get back in and not something else?

By that same argument though, you and I are mammalian humanoids, so if we exist, why not reptilians ones?

I still find it suspicious that people claim to have interactions with them regularly yet not one of them has provided physical evidence. Those who experience them 'astrally' or 'non-physically' are exempt from this because how would you prove that? But those who claim to see physical ones, or have worked with them on bases, surely at least one would have had the foresight to take at least one photo. If for no other reason than to prove they aren't a nutter.

[ravenblack]

Originally Posted by merodach

I don’t know whether ‘they exist’, though I strongly suspect something.

To be honest, I have found it difficult to follow the conversation.
On review, I see it is rather more a ‘dialogue’ and that I am ‘butting in’ somewhat. I am attempting to ascertain what people’s views are (as per my introductory post) and to mention that I do not appreciate or respect impoliteness or argument ad hominem.
My suggestions have been no more or less valid that others. I would like a rational communication.

On topic, I speak from my experiences and find that even if the assumption (a dangerous thing indeed) were to persist, it could be any number of things.
For example, I assume that substances are used in shamanic ritual and ritual in other forms but this has not been my own experience.
As to making someone more susceptible to ‘possession’ I think this is a valid comment. (I also think physical or psychological trauma can have the same effect).

The idea of possession by an 'entity' is much more convincing than literal physical reptilian hybrids (again this comes back to evidence, anecdotal or otherwise).

Jesus was a 'normal' jew of his times, and since he came for the jews, of course he was MARRIED because at that time the jews married their young people off early ............at abt. 12or 13, and the girl then came to live with the boy and his family. HOW IS IT THAT THE THIS ONE MAN THREATENS THE SO-CALLED 'FAITH' OF SO MANY?????? HE WAS A REBEL AND WANTED TO REFORM JUDISM. HIS NORMAL SEXUALITY THREATENS THE FUNDI'S WHO GET THEIR POWER OVER WOMEN.................FROM THE BIBLE.



Repetillians are INVITED to this deminsion by the bloody Rothchild$/moneymafia.............they need to be 'INVITED' mf choooooos

[ravenblack]

Originally Posted by merodach

I don’t know whether ‘they exist’, though I strongly suspect something.

To be honest, I have found it difficult to follow the conversation.
On review, I see it is rather more a ‘dialogue’ and that I am ‘butting in’ somewhat. I am attempting to ascertain what people’s views are (as per my introductory post) and to mention that I do not appreciate or respect impoliteness or argument ad hominem.
My suggestions have been no more or less valid that others. I would like a rational communication.

On topic, I speak from my experiences and find that even if the assumption (a dangerous thing indeed) were to persist, it could be any number of things.
For example, I assume that substances are used in shamanic ritual and ritual in other forms but this has not been my own experience.
As to making someone more susceptible to ‘possession’ I think this is a valid comment. (I also think physical or psychological trauma can have the same effect).

The idea of possession by an 'entity' is much more convincing than literal physical reptilian hybrids (again this comes back to evidence, anecdotal or otherwise).

Jesus was a 'normal' jew of his times, and since he came for the jews, of course he was MARRIED because at that time the jews married their young people off early ............at abt. 12or 13, and the girl then came to live with the boy and his family. HOW IS IT THAT THE THIS ONE MAN THREATENS THE SO-CALLED 'FAITH' OF SO MANY?????? HE WAS A REBEL AND WANTED TO REFORM JUDISM. HIS NORMAL SEXUALITY THREATENS THE FUNDI'S WHO GET THEIR POWER OVER WOMEN!!!!!

who lets them in?¡????? The bloody Rothchild$/moneymafia do, you don't know THAT'???? ITS BASIC!!!