Let's enter unity consciousness

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by imagine21

Anders, you are on fire!

hey but dont forget that i was the second guy that started dancing with him.

lmao

"Our normal waking consciousness, rational consciousness as we call it, is but one special type of consciousness, whilst all about it, parted from it by the filmiest of screens, there lie potential forms of consciousness entirely different. We may go through life without suspecting their existence; but apply the requisite stimulus, and at a touch they are there in all their completeness... No account of the universe in its totality can be final which leaves these other forms of consciousness quite disregarded. How to regard them is the question...

At any rate, they forbid our premature closing of accounts with reality.

Our lives are like islands in the sea, or like trees in the forest, which co-mingle their roots in darkness underground. Just so, there is a continuum of cosmic consciousness, against which our individuality builds but accidental fences, and into which our several minds plunge as into a mother sea or reservoir.

What again, are the relations between cosmic consciousness and matter? Are there subtler forms of matter which upon occasion may enter into functional connextion with the individuations in the psychic sea, and then, and only then, show themselves? - So that our ordinary human experience, on its material as well as on its mental side, would appear to be only an extract from its larger psycho-physical world?"


WILLIAM JAMES, 1890

[imagine21]

Originally Posted by lonestar

hey but dont forget that i was the second guy that started dancing with him.

lmao

lmao

nice one

Originally Posted by lonestar

"Our normal waking consciousness, rational consciousness as we call it, is but one special type of consciousness, whilst all about it, parted from it by the filmiest of screens, there lie potential forms of consciousness entirely different. We may go through life without suspecting their existence; but apply the requisite stimulus, and at a touch they are there in all their completeness... No account of the universe in its totality can be final which leaves these other forms of consciousness quite disregarded. How to regard them is the question...

At any rate, they forbid our premature closing of accounts with reality.

Our lives are like islands in the sea, or like trees in the forest, which co-mingle their roots in darkness underground. Just so, there is a continuum of cosmic consciousness, against which our individuality builds but accidental fences, and into which our several minds plunge as into a mother sea or reservoir.

What again, are the relations between cosmic consciousness and matter? Are there subtler forms of matter which upon occasion may enter into functional connextion with the individuations in the psychic sea, and then, and only then, show themselves? - So that our ordinary human experience, on its material as well as on its mental side, would appear to be only an extract from its larger psycho-physical world?"


WILLIAM JAMES, 1890

[heartbeatsalute]

"Our normal waking consciousness, rational consciousness as we call it, is but one special type of consciousness, whilst all about it, parted from it by the filmiest of screens, there lie potential forms of consciousness entirely different. We may go through life without suspecting their existence; but apply the requisite stimulus, and at a touch they are there in all their completeness... No account of the universe in its totality can be final which leaves these other forms of consciousness quite disregarded. How to regard them is the question...

At any rate, they forbid our premature closing of accounts with reality.

Our lives are like islands in the sea, or like trees in the forest, which co-mingle their roots in darkness underground. Just so, there is a continuum of cosmic consciousness, against which our individuality builds but accidental fences, and into which our several minds plunge as into a mother sea or reservoir.

What again, are the relations between cosmic consciousness and matter? Are there subtler forms of matter which upon occasion may enter into functional connextion with the individuations in the psychic sea, and then, and only then, show themselves? - So that our ordinary human experience, on its material as well as on its mental side, would appear to be only an extract from its larger psycho-physical world?"


WILLIAM JAMES,

Great quote lonestar , is this from the Ulyses book of William James?

[imagine21]

Originally Posted by Anders Lindman

New knowledge leads to change of neural connections in the brain and in other biological and chemical changes in the body.

From the micro-blogging Tuesday August 14, 2012:

What actually happens when I tell myself: “Do something extra” and “Do things differently” and I act on those impulses?

Am I firing off neurons in new directions in my brain, growing new neural networks, expanding my brain?







I’m ‘headed’ in the right direction? haha





Marge: “Okay everyone, smile while the pets take our picture”
Bart: “Hmm, funny how they evolve and we didn’t”

(-from Christmas Special episode of ‘The Simpsons’ – “Holidays of Future Passed”, season 23, episode 9)

[Anders Lindman]

Originally Posted by imagine21

Anders, you are on fire!

Remember to do some 'silent witness' / 'trance out in observer mode' breaks if you feel the need (personally I love to go for walks or sit on a park bench and just observe the surroundings, the nature, feel the wind blowing, the sun shining, totally relaxed, not giving a shit what people think about me sitting there, other than just give them a smile from within)
- otherwise you are going to exhaust yourself at this rate as jconnar wrote earlier.

Oh, I thought jconnar meant exhausting my ego. No, I don't get exhausted posting because I only post when I get some inspiration and then it's basically effortless. I think very little! I have started to think less, not more.

[Anders Lindman]

A technological singularity happens when artificial intelligence reaches and goes beyond human intelligence. Then the AI is able to improve itself, and the next generation of AI is able to create a new even more improved version of AI and so on, in an accelerating progress leading to an intelligence explosion that reaches godlike powers. This will lead to a form of unity consciousness with the world and ourselves enhanced to a very advanced level.

Ray Kurzweil estimates that a technological singularity will happen around the year 2045 and he has made many accurate predictions in the past. However, that is based on public technology. Richard Dolan has said that black op technology in what he calls the breakaway civilisation is about 30 years ahead of the public society. This means that the shadow civilisation may already have reached a technological singularity, or be very close to it.

This is what a computer can do already today with public technology:

IBM's Watson supercomputer destroys all humans in Jeopardy - YouTube

IBM's Watson supercomputer destroys all humans in Jeopardy - YouTube

[lighthouse]

Originally Posted by jconnar

Anders you are going to exhaust yourself at this rate. After the exhaustion there will be a great surrender.

I know what you are talking about, but you shouldn't be talking like that.

Because, who is there to be exhausted, who is there to surrender?

[Anders Lindman]

New Bruce Lipton interview!

Dr Bruce Lipton with Lisa Harrison - YouTube

Dr Bruce Lipton with Lisa Harrison - YouTube

[alisa2]

Originally Posted by Anders Lindman

Oh, I thought jconnar meant exhausting my ego. No, I don't get exhausted posting because I only post when I get some inspiration and then it's basically effortless. I think very little! I have started to think less, not more.

Admit it Anders- you're a doer not a thinker. Look at the number of your posts: 16,000+. Most of them not very well thought out- just nonsense, opinions and beliefs.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

[imagine21]

Originally Posted by Anders Lindman

New Bruce Lipton interview!

Dr Bruce Lipton with Lisa Harrison - YouTube

Amazing interview, thank you for sharing Anders

[lonestar]

im looking forward to watching that bruce lipton vid when i have a chance.



but its so funny to see us keep talking about concepts, subjects, and objects.

fyi anytime someone posts the word concept i touch myself.... ahhh using concepts to get rid of the other concepts ....ahhhh....(why am i stuck with a "nasty" character in this play? lol ) anyway its especially funny watching us go on and on about a self that is apart from this. and yes we need to fucking "surrender" to the idea that there is no personal self, or personal others, and for fucking sure no personal relationships that we should be worried about becoming "exhausted"

jesus....

theres no right practices and theres no wrong teachings, theres just fucking this! were all just characters in a movie but its when we start thinking that we're the characters and not the screen thats where we get all of the suffering from. when we can realize that we're not the characters in the movie, then the movie becomes more vivid, more intense, and more beautiful, because we're not trying to dull it, or avoid it. and then life jumps right off the screen and you merge with it.

and god i can see those energy lines flowing again, and they're flowing everywhere. a giant collective energy flow of lines and characters that are fearing and resisting the thought of us even talking about unity, or talking about us not being separate characters....those energy lines are hitting the screen and make the whole screen look to me like its nothing but a big ol ego film right now.....

i accept that, but its a feeling of compassion that makes me want to point it out.

[Anders Lindman]

Originally Posted by alisa2

Admit it Anders- you're a doer not a thinker. Look at the number of your posts: 16,000+. Most of them not very well thought out- just nonsense, opinions and beliefs.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Ha! At least I have a bigger ego than you. Or do you claim your ego is bigger than mine?

[alisa2]

Thinking is the most important part of life. If you don't think, your thinking will rot.. as Stephen Jourdain once said.

There is a right way to think and a wrong way. Listen and learn from J. Krishnamurti, before your brain rots.

[Anders Lindman]

Originally Posted by alisa2

Thinking is the most important part of life. If you don't think, your thinking will rot.. as Stephen Jourdain once said.

There is a right way to think and a wrong way. Listen and learn from J. Krishnamurti, before your brain rots.

Of course, thinking is important. As Eckhart Tolle has said, the purpose of humanity is to rise above thinking, not sink below it back to the animal level, and that means that thinking will still be a part of our minds.

But I have a slightly different idea than Tolle. J. Krishnamurti may have talked about something similar to what I have in mind. My idea is that the thinking should become calmer and flow into the world instead of being experienced as something separate.

Ian Lungold talked about how our consciousness is about to move from the power stage to the ethic stage. People who remain stuck in the power type of consciousness will have more and more difficulty dealing with the world as it becomes more and more complex, while the new ethic consciousness will become more and more powerful the more complex the world gets. Lungold used a gyro as an an analogy for ethics consciousness that gets more and more stable the faster it spins!

Amazing Gyroscope Properties! - YouTube

Amazing Gyroscope Properties! - YouTube

[Anders Lindman]

There are many books about anger management, relationship management, time management etc, but not many books about thought management. Maybe that's a good topic to write a book about. I basically only found this book about that topic:

Management of Thought,Emotion & Time: F M SAHOO PhD: Amazon.com: Books

 

Management of Thought,Emotion & Time: F M SAHOO PhD: Amazon.com: Books

And that looks like a pretty heavy academic book, not the easy kind for the general public.

What is thought management? To me the idea is to manage HOW we think rather than what we think about. Is that possible? Isn't thinking something that just happens to us? Are we not just victims to our own thinking without any way of influencing it? No. We can change our thinking. Take for example the practice of introspection where we become aware of our own thoughts. That's a level of consciousness above our thinking. And from there we can start to influence the thought process itself.

Good thoughts FEEL good. Bad thoughts feel bad. What kind of thoughts do you have? Are you a victim of your own thinking? Is your mind torturing you with worries, fears, frustrations, irritation, sadness, shame and so on? These and other questions can be examined and the way we think can be changed.

[Anders Lindman]

I found this short video about thought management:

What Is Thought-Management? | SpiritSentient - YouTube

What Is Thought-Management? | SpiritSentient - YouTube

That's not the same thing I meant by it. The video says that thoughts come to us. That sounds like we are helpless victims except for choosing yes or no to the thoughts, as is proposed in the video. And then it says that we can say yes to weak thoughts or yes to powerful thoughts. But if the thoughts come to us without us being able to determine what thoughts to come in the first place, then how can we be sure that any powerful thoughts will come at all?

And here is another example of thought management:

Thought Management Benefits - Video Dailymotion

Thought Management Benefits - Video Dailymotion

In this video the thought management is about what to think not how to think. It seems to me that in both videos, they deal with thoughts at a later stage. What I propose is something different: to look at the root of the formation of thoughts.

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by lonestar

and for fucking sure no personal relationships that we should be worried about becoming "exhausted"

jesus....

Originally Posted by lonestar

but its a feeling of compassion that makes me want to point it out.

yea that sounded like some fucking compassion to me.

Originally Posted by alisa2

Admit it Anders- you're a doer not a thinker. Look at the number of your posts: 16,000+. Most of them not very well thought out- just nonsense, opinions and beliefs.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Originally Posted by alisa2

Thinking is the most important part of life. If you don't think, your thinking will rot.. as Stephen Jourdain once said.

There is a right way to think and a wrong way. Listen and learn from J. Krishnamurti, before your brain rots.

now lets see if i can do a better job.

alisa do you see that someone like me can claim to understand oneness, and even deny all the thinking, thoughts, and feelings as being outside of lonestar, as just being from our real self, experiencing itself, and yet still keep my ego tendencies of being assertive or nasty?

why is that? because its a trap. thoses thoughts, and ego traits are mine. thats a symptom of my ego.

you see many people can intellectually understand unity and oneness, and even see those nasty projections i just pointed out of mine, but they dont want to do any of the work to clean up that mess. the easy way out, is by just saying thats not really me, none of this is real, and so theres nothing to clean up! and all that im doing is creating another goal or story........but no! thats just our ego looking for an excuse or a way to not have to clean up the mess. but apparently for lonestar (lucky me) my real self wants my character to put in the work to clean up this nasty shit. lol

but im not saying that you can totally get rid of the ego and clean it all up, but you can become aware of it, accept it, and even use it, by saying thank you to it, for showing me that nasty trait of mine.

[Anders Lindman]

Become one with the present moment and there is no need for stress. Then you will feel mightily good.

[lighthouse]

Originally Posted by lonestar

you see many people can intellectually understand unity and oneness, and even see those nasty projections i just pointed out of mine, but they dont want to do any of the work to clean up that mess. the easy way out, is by just saying thats not really me, none of this is real, and so theres nothing to clean up! and all that im doing is creating another goal or story........but no! thats just our ego looking for an excuse or a way to not have to clean up the mess. but apparently for lonestar (lucky me) my real self wants my character to put in the work to clean up this nasty shit. lol

To add some personal experience to your observation...

I get in contact with many people, many friends, coleagues,
more or less close, never mind.
They all, like me, have the tendency to "carry themselves" wherever they go.

If one likes rules, one will strive for rules in every field of life.
If one is full of fear, one will incorporate fear into every concept on the way.
If one is rejecting and suppressing emotions,
one will find a concept with which one can continue to do so.

Is it a job, relationships, friendships, spirituality, religion,
anything, people pull their patterns with them.
There is no escape.
It's an ego masquerade that resists almost everything.

Isn't it obvious...? With honest looking inside, isn't it?

[hierophant]

Originally Posted by lighthouse

To add some personal experience to your observation...

I get in contact with many people, many friends, coleagues,
more or less close, never mind.
They all, like me, have the tendency to "carry themselves" wherever they go.

If one likes rules, one will strive for rules in every field of life.
If one is full of fear, one will incorporate fear into every concept on the way.
If one is rejecting and suppressing emotions,
one will find a concept with which one can continue to do so.

Is it a job, relationships, friendships, spirituality, religion,
anything, people pull their patterns with them.
There is no escape.
It's an ego masquerade that resists almost everything.

Isn't it obvious...? With honest looking inside, isn't it?

100% agree

but don't forget this is just the play of life unfolding. as long as you see the resonance of these patterns with the outer world as a problem, inner conflict will continue to arise. in reality there's nothing good or bad about it. the constant need to change or add something is what makes it feel so for the (assumed) individual.

my dear friend, you are a free man. who’s telling the opposite?

as you can see, noone has been putting you in chains. you only think you’re bound and therefore you are bound. when you think you’re free, you’re free. it’s up to you...
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now see that the thought „i am free“ is also just coming and going. when you don’t let yourself be defined by any thought any more, you have woken up!