Is Israel preparing for war?

[bishadi]

Originally Posted by zenhga

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i watched it (listened) and it was grounded, as simple as it is.

AIPAC is a nasty lobby

[georgesmiley]

AIPAC is a nasty lobby

you must be an anti-semite to say such a thing, but i agree with you.

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/08/...r-on-iran.html

by stephen lendman (evidently a self-hating jew) for how do we otherwise explain his opinion ---

er how about a rational human being

Stephen Lendman, Contributor
Activist Post

AIPAC is an unregistered foreign agent. It calls itself "America's Pro-Israeli Lobby." It has represented Israeli interests since 1953.

Virtually no one in Congress confronts it. Doing so is a career-ender. It has enormous influence over US Middle East policies affecting Israel, including war and peace.

It disseminates disinformation, lies and hate. It viciously attacks opponents. It calls Iran "the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism and is racing toward a nuclear weapons capability."

It manufactures threats to promote fear. It wants the Islamic Republic destroyed. It targets other regional states. It wants unchallenged Israeli regional dominance.

James Petras says its sole purpose "is to ensure Israel’s unchallenged military and political power over a huge region from North Africa to the Persian Gulf."

Its annual meeting "is the most outrageous public display of Zionist-Jewish power as it shapes US foreign policy."

It threatens "to drag the US into another major war in the Middle East - this time against Iran." Doing so is lawless, madness, and self-destructive.



Its web site says "While the World Talks, Iran Enriches; More Pressure Needed." A litany of disinformation and lies followed.

Negotiations failed. Iran got more time "to advance its nuclear program and cleanse a suspected nuclear site."

The international community "must dramatically" increase pressure.

Iran "is believed to have carried out experiments on nuclear explosives."

"Satellite images indicate Iran has been working to cleanse (a suspect) site by removing buildings and soil."

Iran's nuclear capabilities have advanced. It fuel stockpile approaches nuclear weapons production capability.


"America must make clear that it will act to prevent Iran from achieving the capability to build a nuclear weapon at a time of its choosing."

Contain(ing) a nuclear Iran" is inadequate. US policy must reject any possibility of Tehran developing nuclear weapons. All options must be considered, including "military action."

Economic sanctions must be "accelerated" and "crippling." Washington should do whatever it takes to prevent a nuclear Iran.

AIPAC is a destructive, malevolent, evil force. It's heading Washington for war. Waging one on Iran assures losers, not winners. Israel may self-destruct in the process. Catastrophe will affect the region. America won't escape harm.

War on Iran may go nuclear. Weapons of mass destruction may be used against a nonbelligerent state. The potential economic and human consequences are staggering. At issue is either stopping this madness or be consumed by it.

Nuclear war leaves no middle ground. General Omar Bradley said the only "way to win an atomic war is to make certain it never starts." It may be closer than most imagine.

Congressional and administration sentiment reject containment. Preventing an Iranian nuclear capability is prioritized. Doing so heads America closer to war. Timing alone is unknown.

In mid-August, Foreign Policy featured a debate of sorts. David Rothkopf headlined "The Drums of August." He's Foreign Policy's CEO and Editor-at Large. Earlier he served as Kissinger Associates managing director and US Deputy Under Secretary of Commerce for International Trade Policy.

"Israel is not bluffing," he said. The punch line about a boy crying wolf is that "the wolf shows up." Reasons for attacking Iran are "clearly growing more compelling for Israeli leaders."

A litany of canards followed, including:

Diplomacy isn't working. Sanctions alone aren't enough. Iran's nuclear program is accelerating. It's advancing closer to weapons capability. Tehran threatens to destroy Israel. It "murder(ed) five Israeli tourists in Bulgaria. (It's) hard for Americans to grasp (its) existential threat."

Failure to confront Iran is "imprudent." He implies might equals right as the bottom red line.

Stephen Walt's view differs. He headlined "Another reason the US shouldn't go to war with Iran," saying:

Washington should avoid war. It's not in America's interest. Diplomacy should be prioritized, not conflict. Policy makers mustn't "get buffaloed into a war by Israel." He urges reengaging Iran directly.

It "makes so much sense," he stresses, even though AIPAC and other hardliners reject it. Together with Netanyahu, they're heading America for war. They're "paint(ing) the United States into a corner."

Why is "simple." Israel can't go it alone. It lacks enough power. It can't sufficiently damage Iran's nuclear facilities without US help. Israel understands. It's pushing Washington into a war it shouldn't wage.

Notions about "closing windows," "red lines," "zones of immunity," and other rhetoric are political ploys to "stifle diplomacy, strengthen sanctions," and pressure Washington to use force. Israel needs America for its "heavy lifting."

Netanyahu/Barak war talk is "bluff, but one can scarcely blame Israel for employing a tactic that keeps working so well. It's our fault we keep falling for it."

Walt's argument falls short. Vital issues too important to ignore weren't discussed. No evidence suggests an Iranian nuclear program. Nations with them don't lob them at each other or non-nuclear states. Aggressive war is lawless.

Iran threatens no one. It urges peace, not war. It wants a nuclear free Middle East. Claiming an alleged nuclear threat is red herring cover for regime change.

Attacking Iran may go nuclear. Doing so assures mass casualties. Israel will be affected like Iran. So will America, other regional nations, and Western ones.

Anytime war is waged, it's hell. Potential nuclear war is madness and self-destructive. Netanyahu and Barak allegedly set a September 25 deadline. Obama's got until then to commit to military action or Israel will go it alone.

Israel's US ambassador Michael Oren said Israel will attack even if destroying Iran's nuclear facilities entirely isn't possible. "Diplomacy hasn't succeeded," he said.

"We've come to a very critical juncture where important decisions do have to be made." He added it won't be "in the too far distant future."

Oren also raised the bogus issue of an alleged Syrian chemical weapons threat. He suggested dealing with it might have to be prioritized. Earlier, Israel threatened to attack Syrian facilities where chemical weapons are stored. Doing so increases the likelihood of full-scale war.

Israel is spoiling for a fight. Ideally it wants Washington to do its heavy lifting. Either way, it wants regional rivals removed. War is its final solution.

[tinyint]

A Clean Break:
A New Strategy for Securing the Realm

Following is a report prepared by The Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies’ "Study Group on a New Israeli Strategy Toward 2000." The main substantive ideas in this paper emerge from a discussion in which prominent opinion makers, including Richard Perle, James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser participated. The report, entitled "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," is the framework for a series of follow-up reports on strategy.

Israel has a large problem. Labor Zionism, which for 70 years has dominated the Zionist movement, has generated a stalled and shackled economy. Efforts to salvage Israel’s socialist institutions—which include pursuing supranational over national sovereignty and pursuing a peace process that embraces the slogan, "New Middle East"—undermine the legitimacy of the nation and lead Israel into strategic paralysis and the previous government’s "peace process." That peace process obscured the evidence of eroding national critical mass— including a palpable sense of national exhaustion—and forfeited strategic initiative. The loss of national critical mass was illustrated best by Israel’s efforts to draw in the United States to sell unpopular policies domestically, to agree to negotiate sovereignty over its capital, and to respond with resignation to a spate of terror so intense and tragic that it deterred Israelis from engaging in normal daily functions, such as commuting to work in buses.

Benjamin Netanyahu’s government comes in with a new set of ideas. While there are those who will counsel continuity, Israel has the opportunity to make a clean break; it can forge a peace process and strategy based on an entirely new intellectual foundation, one that restores strategic initiative and provides the nation the room to engage every possible energy on rebuilding Zionism, the starting point of which must be economic reform. To secure the nation’s streets and borders in the immediate future, Israel can:

• Work closely with Turkey and Jordan to contain, destabilize, and roll-back some of its most dangerous threats. This implies clean break from the slogan, "comprehensive peace" to a traditional concept of strategy based on balance of power.
  
• Change the nature of its relations with the Palestinians, including upholding the right of hot pursuit for self defense into all Palestinian areas and nurturing alternatives to Arafat’s exclusive grip on Palestinian society.
  
• Forge a new basis for relations with the United States—stressing self-reliance, maturity, strategic cooperation on areas of mutual concern, and furthering values inherent to the West. This can only be done if Israel takes serious steps to terminate aid, which prevents economic reform.
  

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http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm

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[bishadi]

Originally Posted by georgesmiley

you must be an anti-semite to say such a thing, but i agree with you.

i dont have a problem with the semitic languages.

Some dont even comprehend the term semitic but i try to educate people, that a language group aint their 'genetic' or their 'tribe'.


I mean, could you imagine telling africans, that they are english?

by stephen lendman (evidently a self-hating jew) for how do we otherwise explain his opinion ---

er how about a rational human being

i like rational

[yousoclever]

why all the beef with Israel. They are not the only Mid east country that wants Iran neutralised.

The main ones are the royal families of states like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait etc.

They want to see Iran off the scene, as its a threat to their own dictatorships. Without their tacit support no such action would take place in the region. I.e. if they were against it they could restrict oil and gas production which would affect The US more than anything Israel could do on its own.

Iran is in a situation re. Nukes like Iraq was with WMDs (if Iran admits that there are no Nukes they'll be attacked straight away, if they admit they have Nukes then any attack would be conducted far more carefully and might not happen, so better to perpetuate that you might have nukes).

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by yousoclever

why all the beef with Israel. They are not the only Mid east country that wants Iran neutralised.

The main ones are the royal families of states like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait etc.

Wahhabis Are of Jewish Origin

The U.S. Department of Defense has released translations of a number of Iraqi intelligence documents dating from Saddam’s rule. One, a General Military Intelligence Directorate report from September 2002, entitled “The Emergence of Wahhabism and its Historical Roots”, shows the Iraqi government was aware of the nefarious purposes of the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia, often known as Salafis, in serving Western interests to undermine Islam.

The report relies heavily on the Memoirs of Mr. Hempher, which describe in detail how a British spy to the Middle East, in the middle of the eighteenth century, made contact with Adbul Wahhab, to create a subversive version of Islam, the notorious sect of Wahhabism, which became the founding cult of the Saudi regime. The movement was temporarily suppressed by the Ottomam armies in the middle of the nineteenth century. But with the assistance of the British, the Wahhabis and their Saudi sponsors returned to power and founded their own state in 1932. Since then, the Saudis have collaborated closely with the Americans, to whom they owe their tremendous oil wealth, in funding various Islamic fundamentalist organizations and other American covert operations, particularly the "jihad" in Afghanistan. But the Saudis simulatenously use the immense wealth at their dispossal to disseminate this disruptive brand of Islam to various parts of the world, categorized by some of the largest propaganda campaign in history.

Many who defend Wahhabism as a legitimate reform movement of Islam have tried to dismiss the Memoirs as a spurious fabrication. These include Bernard Haykel, Professor in Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University, who, without providing any evidence, presumes the Memoirs to have been created by Ayyub Sabri Pasha.

However, while the Memoirs only emerged in the 1970s, Pasha wrote his version of the story already in 1888. Ayyub Sabri Pasha was a well-known Ottoman writer and Turkish naval admiral, who served the Ottoman army in the Arabian Pensinsula, writing several works about the region and it's history. Including The Beginning and Spreading of Wahhabism, where he recounts Abdul Wahhab's association and plotting with Hempher.

In addition to that revealed in the Hempher Memoirs, the Iraqi intelligence report also makes known some surprising claims, derived from works circulated in Arabic which have not been translated into English. As the report recounts, both Abdul Wahhab, and his sponsor, ibn Saud, who founded the Saudi dynasty, were of Jewish origin.

For example, D. Mustafa Turan wrote, in The Donmeh Jews, that Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab was a descendant of a family of Donmeh Jews from Turkey. The Donmeh were descendants of followers of the infamous false-messiah of Judaism, Shabbetai Zevi, who shocked the Jewish world in 1666 by converting to Islam. Viewing it as a sacred mystery, Zevi's followers imitated his conversion to Islam, though secretly keeping to their Kabbalistic doctrines. In Europe, the Shabbeteans were eventually led a century later by Jacob Frank, claiming to be a reincarnation of Zevi. And, according to Rabbi Antelman in To Eliminate the Opiate, to them belonged the Rothschilds who had a hand in the founding of the Bavarian Illuminati. The Donmeh community of Turkey were concentrated in the city of Salonika, which became a hotbed of Masonic activity, and from which the Young Turk movement evolved, which aided in the collapse of the Muslim empire of the Ottoman Turks. There is evidence that Ataturk himself, the founder of the modern Turkish state, was of Donmeh origin as well.

Turan maintains that Abdul Wahhab's grandfather, Sulayman was actually Shulman, having belonged to the Jewish community of Bursa in Turkey. From there he settled in Damascus, where he feigned Islam, but was apparently expelled for practicing sorcery. He then fled to Egypt and he again faced condemnation, so made his way he to the Hijaz, where he got married and fathered Abdul Wahhab. According to the report, the same is claimed in The Donmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahabis, Rifat Salim Kabar.

The notion of the Saudi family being of Jewish heritage has been published by Mohammad Sakher, who, it is claimed, was ordered killed by the regime for his revelations. The report relates a similar account, but from different sources. According The Wahabi Movement/The Truth and Roots, by Abdul Wahhab Ibrahim Al-Shammari, for example, ibn Saud is actually descended from Mordechai bin Ibrahim bin Mushi, a Jewish merchant from Basra. Apparently, when he was approached by members from the Arabian tribe of Aniza, then claimed to be one of them, and traveled with them to Najd and his name became Markhan bin Ibrahim bin Musa.

Additionally, Abdul Wahhab was descended from Wahib Al-Tamimi, so, as reported by al Said Nasir, in The History of the Saud Family, the Saudi ambassador in Cairo, Abdullah bin Ibrahim al Mufaddal, paid Muhammad Al-Tamimi thirty five thousand Jinee in the year 1943, to forge a family tree of the Saudi family and that of Abdul Wahhab, and merge them into one, claiming their origin from the Prophet Mohammed.

While it would be difficult to independantly authenticate these claims, they are interesting in light of the role that the state of Saudi Arabia has and continues to play with regards to supporting and advancing Western power in the Middle East and elsewhere. Especially astounding is the very dubious and virulent form of Islam, that Wahhabism and Salafism represent, which is currently wrecking havoc on Islamic traditions, and dividing the Muslim community in petty squabbles over trivial details, allowing the War on Islam to proceed effectively unchecked.

By David Livingstone taken from Kayhan International daily.
http://english.irib.ir/analysis/arti...-jewish-origin

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[tnt1]

Top Rabbis and those with some semblance of sense about them have all stated publicly that this war is a bad idea. One and only one seems hell bent on initiating this war and while surely others in the sidelines agree with this man who's last name begins with N (we all know who he is) and my prediction is quite simple really because I realize how these people think.
The teacher would say to the class:
When a tool becomes a problem students what do we do with said tool?

You discard it for a new one of course. You have to realize that these 'governors' are expendable and sometimes these things are done on purpose to make a big statement and at the same time justify what was originally wanted and supposedly if we are to believe their honesty in the matter this war is a bad idea. Ah but what will happen is this and follow closely as I want you to watch as this transpires. Netanyahu has become a problem. He has become a problem to both sides. My prediction is he will be silenced and don't ask how. We all probably know this anyways. Once done of course another will be to blame but the truth is the Rabibis will be responsible. Two birds with one stone and in the end they have their war. This time justified.

[grolsch44]

Originally Posted by zenhga

War With Iran By George Galloway

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That is f&£king brilliant

[tinyint]

US punched Bibi, Barak in the face

Analysis: Dempsey's remark regarding IDF's inability to destroy Iran's nuclear capability meant to show Israel who's boss

Once every few years Israel needs a slap in the face to remember where it stands in the world. On Tuesday it was US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey who assumed the role of the responsible adult and slapped Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak, the duo orchestrating the national hysteria surrounding the possibility of an attack in Iran.


Israel can "delay but not destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities," he said while sitting next to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who visited Israel a few weeks ago to allay the concerns of the leadership in Jerusalem.

Dempsey's comments should be taken seriously, as should the stern message conveyed by Panetta, the White House and the American security establishment: If we can't reason with you, the Israelis, we will have to get tough.


The general's remark was not a slip-of-the-tongue. It was a calculated statement from a general of Irish descent and character. His words constituted a slap in Israel's face, a punch in the face, and a kick to the most sensitive part of the body. To be more precise, the US slammed Israel's head against the wall and said: "Shut up. Stop babbling about Iran. Without us there is not much you can do, and don't assume for a second that we are dancing to your tune. You shouldn't do anything stupid, and stop driving the entire world crazy."


This was the message behind Dempsey's comment. You don't believe it? Just imagine what would have happened had an American general, after decades of ambiguity, would have held a press conference and announced that Israel does not have nuclear weapons, or that it does.


Now think again about the meaning of Dempsey's statement, which was made after months and even years in which Israel was building up its image as an omnipotent power in the Middle East. Dempsey's comments can even be considered earth-shattering: The US, Israel's closest ally and confidante, has decided to bring the Jewish state's leadership to its knees and hurt our exaggerated self-confidence and undermine our deterrence. No less.


Dempsey was painfully clear. He basically said that Israel should not disregard the opinions of its top security officials, stop the constant chatter on Iran and refrain from any acts that may have an adverse effect on the global economy. The general also meant to tell Israel that it mustn't believe that Netanyahu has any control over the US because he has friends in the Republican Party. Dempsey laid down the facts: Israel is not America, it does not possess the same capabilities, and if Netanyahu and Barak continue wreaking havoc – Israel won’t have America either.


It will take a while before we will be able to gauge the depth of the current crisis between Israel and the US (and between Netanyahu and Obama). Washington made a strategic decision to show Israel who is the mentor and who is the protégé. The US hit Israel's most sensitive nerve: The pride in its military power. But it appears that the US had no other choice. After weeks of belligerent headlines, President Obama had enough of Netanyahu's inclination to play with fire. We should start getting used to it.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...269041,00.html

[bishadi]

Originally Posted by yousoclever

why all the beef with Israel. They are not the only Mid east country that wants Iran neutralised.

The main ones are the royal families of states like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait etc.

They want to see Iran off the scene, as its a threat to their own dictatorships. Without their tacit support no such action would take place in the region. I.e. if they were against it they could restrict oil and gas production which would affect The US more than anything Israel could do on its own.

Iran is in a situation re. Nukes like Iraq was with WMDs (if Iran admits that there are no Nukes they'll be attacked straight away, if they admit they have Nukes then any attack would be conducted far more carefully and might not happen, so better to perpetuate that you might have nukes).

how about another angle:

West armed Israel

could the East have already done the same on the other side (iran/syria)?

Iran has been buying russian subs for almost half a century. Any nuke could have been transported years ago.

maybe la bomba (tsar) was created so that, only 1 will be needed to stop the noise (enlil).

[realy]

Muslim Fundamentalism:

In 1979, Bernard Lewis, attended the super-secret Bilderberg meeting in Austria, and contributed to the discussion of "Muslim Fundamentalism".

The Bernard Lewis Plan, is the code-name for a top-secret British strategy for the Middle East. Lewis' Plan endorsed the Muslim Brotherhood movement behind Khomeini, in order to promote for the Balkanization and fragmentation of the entire Muslim Near East along ethnic and religious lines.

Lewis argued that the West should encourage nationalistic upheavals among minorities, such as the Lebanese Maronites, the Kurds, the Armenians, Druze, Baluchis, Azerbaijani Turks, Syrian Alawites, the Copts of Ethiopia, Sudanese mystical sects, Arabian tribes and so on.

The result would be, in Brzezinski's terminology, an Arc of Crisis.


Brzezinski, who served as National Security Advisor during the Carter administration, believed that global dominance was dependent of control of the numerous states of Soviet Central Asia.


Brzezinski had, in turn, been seduced by Bernard Lewis, into believing that Islamic fundamentalism could be played as a "geo-strategic" card to destabilize the USSR...

"There isn't a global Islam... what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries." -Zbigniew Brzezinski

`from aangirfan blog.

[kitler]

I hope Isreal drags America and Britain into a proper war.

Nearly all my life I have watched pathetic child men like fucking William Haugue pomp around like conquering emperors as our soldiers win little wars against little countries.

These endless little wins have convinced the people of the UK that we are a nation of tough heros who must wage war wherever we fancy regardless of the economic and spiritual damage we are causing ourselves.

The UK is now a bancrupt nation of mindless drones. We make nothing. We invent nothing. We haven't even got any good writers, musicians or filmamkers any more.

Only a real war, with 1000s of dead soldiers and many years of food and fuel rationing can end our malaise and force us to become a proper country again.

[toallofyou]

Originally Posted by kitler

I hope Isreal drags America and Britain into a proper war.

Nearly all my life I have watched pathetic child men like fucking William Haugue pomp around like conquering emperors as our soldiers win little wars against little countries.

These endless little wins have convinced the people of the UK that we are a nation of tough heros who must wage war wherever we fancy regardless of the economic and spiritual damage we are causing ourselves.

The UK is now a bancrupt nation of mindless drones. We make nothing. We invent nothing. We haven't even got any good writers, musicians or filmamkers any more.

Only a real war, with 1000s of dead soldiers and many years of food and fuel rationing can end our malaise and force us to become a proper country again.

Yeah, and perhaps those 1000s of dead soldiers would stop people from being so fucking stupid as to sign up for the army in the first place. It's all well and good being a paid killer when you're ridiculously over-powered in comparison to the enemy.

Not that I'm saying war would be a good thing, but maybe that's what it's going to take to wake people up... although by then it might be too late.

[joho]

Originally Posted by toallofyou

Yeah, and perhaps those 1000s of dead soldiers would stop people from being so fucking stupid as to sign up for the army in the first place. It's all well and good being a paid killer when you're ridiculously over-powered in comparison to the enemy.

Not that I'm saying war would be a good thing, but maybe that's what it's going to take to wake people up... although by then it might be too late.

if it would make people stop joining armys it would have happened a long time ago

besides they would just bring back conscription

[toallofyou]

Originally Posted by joho

if it would make people stop joining armys it would have happened a long time ago

besides they would just bring back conscription

Yeah good point. So if World War 3 breaks out we're all fucked. Probably. So the time to wake up and stop supporting murderous governments is now. But that will probably never happen, you'll always get people saying stuff like "I support the troops, they're heroes, they're not to blame for the government". It's pathetic.

[joho]

Originally Posted by toallofyou

Yeah good point. So if World War 3 breaks out we're all fucked. Probably. So the time to wake up and stop supporting murderous governments is now. But that will probably never happen, you'll always get people saying stuff like "I support the troops, they're heroes, they're not to blame for the government". It's pathetic.

if ww3 breaks out and you survive any length of time avoid any type of official/military like the plague even if it seems your best option

money will no longer mean anything but they will need a work force/army
to carry on the war

so you will see impressment and forced labour at gunpoint


this sort of game has been played out 1000s of times in history

[astra]

We may have a couple of B52 and B2 Stealth Bombers arrive in the uk in September-but it maybe nothing to worry about

[transcendental stallion]

Why didn't israel stop the ship? Last thing Egypt want is to start a bunch of trouble which is trademark of israel.

Originally Posted by PressTV

Report: Egypt turns down U.S. request to inspect Iranian arms ship on way to Syria

Suez Canal Authority chairman tells Al-Ahram newspaper Egyptian navy refuses to inspect ship's cargo; President Morsi to attend Tehran summit later this month.

By Haaretz, Reuters and The Associated Press | Aug.26, 2012 | 9:27 AM | 4
By Reuters | Aug.26,2012 | 9:27 AM

Egypt has recently turned down a U.S. request to stop an Iranian ship carrying weapons to Syria, according to a report in Egypt's Al-Ahram newspaper.

According to the report, quoted in Israel Radio on Sunday, Lieutenant General Mohab Mamish, Suez Canal Authority chairman, said Egypt's navy refused to stop the ship and inspect its cargo as it was passing through the canal.

Last week, an Egyptian official said President Mohammed Morsi will attend a summit in Iran later this month, the first such trip for an Egyptian leader since relations with Tehran deteriorated decades ago.

The visit could mark a thaw between the two countries after years of enmity, especially since Egypt signed its 1979 peace treaty with Israel and Iran underwent its Islamic revolution.

Under Morsi’s predecessor Hosni Mubarak, Egypt, predominantly Sunni Muslim, sided with Saudi Arabia and other Sunni-dominated Arab states in trying to isolate Shiite-led Iran.

Iran hailed the victory of Morsi, who resigned from the Muslim Brotherhood when he was elected in June, as an "Islamic Awakening." Morsi, however, is striving to reassure Egypt's Western allies wary at the prospect of Islamist rule, and Gulf states that are deeply suspicious of Iranian influence.

Egypt is the current head of the Non Aligned Movement, founded during the Cold War to advocate the causes of the developing world, is set to hand over to Iran in the Tehran meeting.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-e...syria-1.460733

[harrybrown]

Originally Posted by kitler

I hope Isreal drags America and Britain into a proper war.

Nearly all my life I have watched pathetic child men like fucking William Haugue pomp around like conquering emperors as our soldiers win little wars against little countries.

These endless little wins have convinced the people of the UK that we are a nation of tough heros who must wage war wherever we fancy regardless of the economic and spiritual damage we are causing ourselves.

The UK is now a bancrupt nation of mindless drones. We make nothing. We invent nothing. We haven't even got any good writers, musicians or filmamkers any more.

Only a real war, with 1000s of dead soldiers and many years of food and fuel rationing can end our malaise and force us to become a proper country again.

Isreal, USA, UK....however many countries we can think of?, the Brotherhood choose's who, stirs it up, who fights who & who wins / loses, Rebuilding contracts, land rights etc....all done by other people (who no longer think for themsselves) "on the brotherhood's command".

I'll have no pitty or sympathy for any of them, fill as many body bags with soldiers as possible, cos when there all gone & no one else signs up, then No one will be left to go to "someone elses" wars. If they're stupid enough to sign up in the first place...well they get what they deserve IMO. Real Hero's save lives, not take them!

Its the killing of innocent civilians that really pisses me off, but there, we're being ruled (not for much longer) by an insane cabal who see us all "as cattle" to be slaughtered whenever they so desire....inless we stand up & completely disobey that is?

The choice is ours regardless of race, creed, nation etc.
Someones country(s) is going to get wiped off the map, just a matter of knowing who before they try to do it?

Its time to "disobey" the likes of hague & co....as soon as we do they're FUCKED Big Time.