whats causing the increase in cancer

[winegums]

Everyone dies of something. There seems to be a strange immortality-complex that some people have where they think death is a modern problem.

Increase in cancer? A result of:

i) Environment (exposure to carcinogens)
ii) Lifestyle (mainly that we're so sedate)
iii) Genetics (BRAC gene etc)
iv) Better diagnostics/postmortems (in the 1600s nobody would care to diagnose why some serf died. Who cared?)

[subl1minal]

Originally Posted by tenzingnorgay

So true. That's why you find people who live to be 100 on all kinds of diets. If you think you are healthy and you think your food is supplying all the nutrition you need, then your body will make it happen.

1+

Couldn't agree more.

[plam]

Like I said the main factor in the "increase" it's the diagnosis.
No wonder they have advert encouraging people to get checked.

Two things
1. The scanner causes cancer through radiation
2. The shock from being diagnosed with cancer
accelerates the problem many fold.

Many people live with lung cancer
without realising they have it and die quickly after being diagnosed.
Their own mind kills them as it's a squatter
and when it feels the death is inevitable
it burns the whole house down.

Watch this video it might save your life.

Cancer Is Not A Disease! -- It's A Survival Mechanism - YouTube

Cancer Is Not A Disease! -- It's A Survival Mechanism - YouTube

[winegums]

Originally Posted by plam

Like I said the main factor in the "increase" it's the diagnosis.
No wonder they have advert encouraging people to get checked.

Two things
1. The scanner causes cancer through radiation

*the* scanner? Which one? Also, bear in mind there's plenty cancers that you wouldn't necessarily run to imaging (that is, you could feel reasonably confident about a Dx from a biopsy from say, skin or bowel).

[plam]

Originally Posted by winegums

*the* scanner? Which one? Also, bear in mind there's plenty cancers that you wouldn't necessarily run to imaging (that is, you could feel reasonably confident about a Dx from a biopsy from say, skin or bowel).

Small details ... if you want to be pedantic I don't care.

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Bottom line is the shock from being diagnosed with cancer
is what kills most people and if that does not kill them
the chemo or the radiotherapy will.

People are much better off not going to hospitals at all.
Yes, it's risky because some time early diagnostics is crucial
but as a whole, statistically you have better chances of survival
if continue as normal and adopt a healthier way of life.
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I've recently lost one of my uncles to lung cancer
Yes, he had some chest pain, yes he was a heavy smoker and all that
but he was not feeling too bad, he worked and kept on smoking
After he was diagnosed, the family panicked
and quickly sent him for treatment
Within couple of week, his digestive system shut off
to an extend that he could not even swallow a drop of water.

Lung cancer relates to death fright conflict
so all it takes is for the patient to be told that
he has cancer and he will.

[winegums]

Originally Posted by plam

Bottom line is the shock from being diagnosed with cancer
is what kills most people and if that does not kill them
the chemo or the radiotherapy will.

I'm not sure that's the case. Bear in mind that cancer has always killed people, even when it was only found as an afterthought. there's been an increase in cancer, but there's also been an increase in average life expectancy, a decrease in death through infectious disease...

People are much better off not going to hospitals at all.
Yes, it's risky because some time early diagnostics is crucial
but as a whole, statistically you have better chances of survival
if continue as normal and adopt a healthier way of life.

Do you have sort of proof of that.

I've recently lost one of my uncles to lung cancer
Yes, he had some chest pain, yes he was a heavy smoker and all that
but he was not feeling too bad, he worked and kept on smoking
After he was diagnosed, the family panicked
and quickly sent him for treatment
Within couple of week, his digestive system shut off
to an extend that he could not even swallow a drop of water.

Lung cancer relates to death fright conflict
so all it takes is for the patient to be told that
he has cancer and he will.

I'm sorry to hear about your uncle.

[plam]

Originally Posted by winegums

Do you have sort of proof of that.

The Untreated Live Longer

The late Dr. Hardin B. Jones, Professor of Medical Physics and Physiology at Berkeley, California, made a study lasting 25 years of the life span of cancer patients, and had concluded that untreated patients do not die sooner than patients receiving orthodox treatment (surgery, radiation and chemotherapy), and in many cases they live longer. Dr. Jones delivered his bombshell report at the American Cancer Society's (11th) Science Writers' Seminar (March 28-April 2, 1969), in which he confirmed what he had written as early as 1955, in his classic paper. "Demographic Consideration of the Cancer Problem," published in Transactions of the New York Academy of Sciences (Series II, Vol. 18, pp. 298-333).

[terrorworld]

Originally Posted by lakkimakki

I think its the UMTS that triggers cancer cells.

Yes it is, at least one of the reasons: It's the thing called 'DOR' (deadly orgone energy) which is obviously too intense extremely high frequency sound in this case (phonons which are a product of energy loss in digital electronics etc., please look into the orgonite thread).
Ultrasound is known to break up chemical bonds, and so does the hypersound, too, obviously. The result are chemical radicals which are known to destroy the healthy body cells.
That's just what the anti-oxidantiants are told to avoid - but it's better to combat the cause not the symptom... if you can't get rid of the cause (cell phone towers) then there's orgonite to convert it into more healthy energy (lower ultra-/hypersound mostly: POR).

[winegums]

Originally Posted by plam

The Untreated Live Longer


(March 28-April 2, 1969)

You think medical science might've improved a smidge in fourty years?

[plam]

Originally Posted by winegums

You think medical science might've improved a smidge in fourty years?

I've got more recent data too, just have to find it.

[snakesnladders]

in ancient times very very very few people had cancer. why? because in ancient times the planet was not saturated in artificial chemicals, toxins and industrial pollutants. Most of these things are CARCINOGENIC. they are even given to lab rats to cause cancer so our scientists can try to figure out how to cure it. How to cure it? Get rid of all the nasty toxic chemicals and pollutants in the first place.

you may think you work in an office and were never exposed to toxins or chemicals but these days this is pretty much impossible. if you live in the kalahari desert maybe you might be chemical free. but in any city or industrialised country, you are literally saturated with toxic chemicals every day without even knowing about it.

the car pollution is taken up in the office air con unit. you breathe it in all day in concentrated form.

working in an office 9-5 you aren't getting anywhere near enough vitamin d from sunlight. tablets are not really a substitute for exposure to sunlight whatever they might tell you. you NEED to be out in the sun every day and fresh air. how many of us these days get enough sun exposure each day?

lack of sunlight contributes to your getting cancer.

you are exposed to car pollution; gmo foods and nano technology without knowing it because there is insufficient labelling; any processed food is riddled with artificial components that are dangerous to your health - flavouring is a big one - what's in 'flavouring'? it's not labelled adequately. aspartame is being snuck into all sorts of foods and not labelled adequately; the lawn fertilisers you use have dangerous chemicals. council was recently spraying 24 D on the bush near my place. and i thought we lived away from the city. agricultural areas are rife with dangerous chemical fertilisers. this come onto our fruit and vegetables and gets into our body. over time, it's going to be carcinogenic.

then there's smog from factory outputs; i mean literally, we are riddled with chemicals. how can you think that your friend is chemical exposure free?

even our fish are now laced with mercury. if you eat fish, you're getting mercury exposure most likely. if you've had vaccinations you have probably been mercury exposed. if you wear big name brand makeup - mercury is often a preservative in many brands of makeup as well as many other dangerous chemicals. parabens and sulfates are in your shampoo, soap, body wash; aluminium in your deoderant; flouride in your water; we are AWASH with chemicals.

then there's mobile fone towers, computers etc with dirty electricity - these can be carcinogenic over time.. do you live near powerlines - cancer causing if too close... and so on and on...

none of this existed in ancient times. the earth was largely clean and chemical free...

so there's chemicals. there's lack of sunlight. there's lack of exercise and movement. if you sit for long periods you die younger = its a known fact. most sit all day in offices. you should be out walking and doing exercise all day as humans were designed for. difficult i know but that's how we evolved. not to sit in an office inside all day.

there's lack of grounding with the earth. it's important for health to stand on bare earth or lie on the earth. why you feel better after a walk on the beach etc in your bare feet. you need to 'ground' or earth yourself. if you wear rubber soles, sleep on a rubber mattress and never walk on the bare ground or lie on it - then you won't have optimal health. (book: Earthing from amazon.com if interested). makes sense i think.

then there's diet. the ancient greeks said a society that eats meat will need a lot of doctors. all the hormones in meat and poultry. (plus mercury in the fish). we eat WAY too much red meat and meat in general. humans are omnivours but mainly designed to eat veggies. fruit and veggies nuts and seeds. not meat. a tiny bit of meat is ok. but too much is not what we were designed for. particularly red meat is known to cause inflammation in the body and inflammation is known to be associated with cancer.

if you do eat a tiny bit of meat or eggs - i recommend FREE RANGE healthy animals - healthy meat - hormone free - healthy you. miserable unhealthy animal = miserable unhealthy you. it's that simple.

the ancient greeks also said: LET FOOD BE YOUR MEDICINE AND MEDICINE BE YOUR FOOD. this saying is very wise if you get it. treat food as if it's medicine when you eat it becuase IT IS - or CAN BE if you eat the right stuff. know the function and purpose in your body of all that you eat. what does that herb do? how can it help you? what does that fruit do or that vegetable do? how can it help you? eat with PURPOSE not for sensual gratification. eat to be HEALTHY not for PLEASURE.

shoudl you start hte day with an apple to detox and cleanse the body? then maybe a handful of nuts? what do almonds do? a handful of tomatoes - what do those do? is it the time of the month if you're female? should you be eating a handful of raspberries? what will those do? or some raspberry tea? if you have a cold waht foods are good for you? elderberry tea? citrus? garlic? we have to eat specifically for our health.

sugar - refined white sugar - is BAD FOR YOU. your body has a hard time processing this and goes into crisis mode when you ingest it. it has a lot of things to sort out quickly and if you keep eating it the body gets tired of having to sort it all out for you all the time.

what alternatives to white sugar are there? e.g. low GI is better - like coconut sugar maybe; or stevia; or agave nectar. or some fruit; even maple syrup or honey is better but IN MODERATION. the best solution to too much sugar is STOP EATING IT. eat WAY LESS sweet things. a tiny bit is okay every now and then. when you crave it, substitute white sugar for something safer. If we all DEMAND alternatives to white sugar in things we buy in the supermarket - it will happen... but really you should make things yourself so you know what's in them. processed stuff is bad.

sugar is a poison - read sugarblues from amazon.com.

dairy is just unnecessary and the adult human has trouble processing it. MILK for mammals is for BABY animals to help GROWTH. if you are not a baby of the species you do NOT need milk. you have already grown. and mammals should only drink the milk of their own species when young as it's tailor made for thier species. Cows milk helps baby COWS grow big. it has stuff in it that baby COWS need that baby HUMANS do NOT necessarily need... unles syou're trying to grow into a cow.

the body has to produce mucus to deal with the dairy you're eating and break it down. it struggles. dairy also is fattening. it's just something you can do without in my opinion. i stopped dairy and haven't looked back. fruit veggies nuts seeds certain safe grains like rice maybe eggs (Free range organic) and if you like a tiny bit of fish/poultry (FREE RANGE ORGSNIC) are i think what we need to eat - just my opinion...

just think: dairy has pus and blood in it that you can't even see. think of that next time you're trying to swallow a profiterole...

i mean if we're gonna eat dairy we shud at least be eating human milk. yuck huh? why's it any less yuck if it's from a female cow instead?

and apparently in my mother's day no one drank juice - fruit juice. they just ate fruit. she reckons fruit juice is also too much concentrated fruit sugar - better off just eating some whole fruit...

but if you're gonna compare drinks obviously juice is WAY better than coke... coke isn't a drink it's full of sugar and crap in my opinion....

obviously mineral spring water is the best. in a GLASS bottle - not plastic. no BPA. all the plastic food containers and drink containers are probably giving us cancer too.

i can go on if you like.

but you get the gist.

THIS iS WHY We ARRE ALL GETTING CANCER>

until we change the WHOLE way we live an dthe planet, we will CONTINUE TO WIPE OURSELVES OUT WITH CANCER>.. the planet is trying to get rid of us... karma.... from all the pollution and crap we cause on this earth.

and all the cruetly to animals in factory farms and slaughterhouses when we as a species are supposed to be laragely vegetarian and don't even NEED to kill all these animals to be healthy.

let alone kill them cruelly in such large numbers; and raise them in inhumane conditions.

karma people. on one level we are all getting sick with cancer due to karma.

and i have had cancer. so that's my opinion. i got it aged 27 too.

[plam]

Originally Posted by snakesnladders

the ancient greeks said a society that eats meat will need a lot of doctors. all the hormones in meat and poultry. (plus mercury in the fish).

I'd like to see the reference about this claim - society that eats meat will need a lot of doctors
and also reference showing the use of injected hormones in animals in ancient greece
and last please, show me the reference about the level of mercury in the water in ancient greece.

Thank you very much!

Btw, did you know that wild animals also suffer from cancer?
And they die of cancer more or less at the same rate - 10%

So what does that mean? All that you wrote does not sound so plausable.
Why do wild animals die of cancer at the same rate?
They are on the go, all day long and breath fresh air, drink mountain water
They eat organic all the time.
And considering that the statistics about the death rate in wild animals
is perhaps lacking of sufficient data compared to human data.

Cancer Kills Wild Animals Too

Cancer accounts for about 10 percent of all human deaths. If you think that sets us apart, scientists have news for you: Wild animals die of cancer at about the same rate, and it threatens some species with extinction.

"Cancer is one of the leading health concerns for humans," Dr. Denise McAloose, a pathologist for the Wildlife Conservation Society, said in a statement. "But we now understand that cancer can kill wild animals at similar rates."

[21_12_2012]

Originally Posted by winegums

I'm not sure that's the case. Bear in mind that cancer has always killed people, even when it was only found as an afterthought. there's been an increase in cancer, but there's also been an increase in average life expectancy, a decrease in death through infectious disease...

There's no way on earth you typed that without laughing... not having it.....

[macchoi]

I'll copy an excerpt from the book I'm currently reading, The Medical Mafia:

The Causes of Cancer

The same causes as those for illnesses of AIDS. It is said of cancer that it is sickness of the soul. In fact it is very strongly linked to the emotions. Cancer is often preceded by a depression.

The most frequent symptoms are despair and a feeling of helplessness, which reflect the state of our soul. Moreover, patients who come out best, regardless of the treatment, are the fighters, the rebels. Those who refuse to give up.

Bernie Siegel calls them his "Exceptional Cancer Patients" in his marvelous book: Love, Medicine and Miracles.

The greatest sickness of the soul continues to be submission. To others. To their ideas, their pressures, their fear, their expectations, their laws, their statistics, their treatments.

Let Us Not Lose Sight of the Fact That:

• Cancer is an illness that is treatable and preventable
• The principal cause of cancer is to be found in the soul
• There is rarely an emergency involved in treating cancer

We should take the time to inform ourselves.

• Chemotherapy weakens our immune system
• Preventing cancer implies reinforcing our immune system
• Refusing to submit is a plus for a healthy recovery
• Prognostics are for books, not for human beings

Cancer is a wake-up call that we give ourselves. Our body is telling us to take the weight off our feet, re-establish contact with ourselves, and re-orient our life. It is a chance that it is giving us.

[psilocybin]

The small number of wild animals that die of cancer, it's highly likely that humans are involved. Some of our wild forests, lakes, rivers and oceans are highly polluted.

[tenzingnorgay]

Originally Posted by winegums

You think medical science might've improved a smidge in fourty years?

No it hasn't. It's gotten worse.

Table Of Iatrogenic Deaths In The United States-

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/medic...med/deaths.htm

[psilocybin]

Originally Posted by tenzingnorgay

No it hasn't. It's gotten worse.

Table Of Iatrogenic Deaths In The United States-

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/medic...med/deaths.htm

Surgery and treating road trauma victims or any other victims of an accident has improved dramatically.

Treating disease, especially auto immune conditions has not, there are just more drugs around which don't heal anything.

[devicenull]

Originally Posted by macchoi

It is said of cancer that it is sickness of the soul. In fact it is very strongly linked to the emotions.
The principal cause of cancer is to be found in the soul

Where do you have any science to back up these claims?

Edit : Changed from Swedish to English. =)

[plam]

Originally Posted by devicenull

Where do you have any science to back up these claims?

Edit : Changed from Swedish to English. =)

German New Medicine

Emotions and Cancer

[macchoi]

Originally Posted by devicenull

Where do you have any science to back up these claims?

Edit : Changed from Swedish to English. =)

The cause of cancer goes beyond science, or physical science. We must look deeper than just the surface and the physical; at a quantum level. Western science fails to accept that there is more to the human than just the physical form; there is the mind, the emotions, the spirit and soul, or whatever you want to call it.

All symptoms that are expressed by the physical body are just expressions of something much deeper, an underlying problem that cannot necessarily be seen physically.

Unfortunately, the people who took over our medical education have locked this information away. Instead, they feed us with misinformation.

Fortunately, the truth is slowly resurfacing:

Originally Posted by plam

German New Medicine

Emotions and Cancer