casteneda and the reptillian agenda - Page 2

lyghtkynge · 10-09-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by humito

so you are saying by using his techniques we are buying into and giving our power away to a multi dimensional shapeshifting reptilian deity? carlos becane a naugual and every naugaul has met the death defier.............with the arrival of the death defier the way sorcerers acted changed considerably..............I am unsure whether you think learning sorcery from this reptilian lineage is a good or bad thing,or both?

Have you practiced tensegrity, why do recommend against it?

I suggest you study tensegrity before incorporating it into your lifestyle. It was 'adopted' by Carlos for 'current relevancy.'

Carlos training was unfinished, as you should be aware. What's found in the books is not what's behind the 'scenes.' Study, practice.

Carlos and his 'witches' were trying to decide what to do with their knowledge: they debated two choices: one, to turn the Teachings into a Religion (sorry if that disturbs!), or, two, to develop a method of teaching them directly. This became 'Tensegrity.' With his death, the original instructors disappeared (or died). You will have to study much deeper to gather the inner knowledge, I assure you. Carlos was a synthesizer of knowledge-bases; but he was also 'tapped-into' the Death Defier knowledge Source. I see you have read the basic books, and have not gone beyond this.

E.g., his 'original meeting' with don Juan has many versions, some which tell a similar story, some which are variants. This is imagination, for someone who has 'recapitulated' his awareness.
Carlos Meets Don Juan: Multiple Takes

I Do recommend the knowledge as gleaned from the Teachings, and anything correctly associated with the Death Defier Serpent Wisdom, for this is The Feminine Rearing Her Head, to Endow the Spark of Immortal Life within the dead corpse of humanity, necessary for entry into the 6th Sun.

I don't know how you misconstrued that from my post: this should have been plain. I merely advise great discernment, and this is difficult, for Right Knowing cannot be had by the low mind. The ReBirthing is Attained from the West Flow, not the East Flow, which is the Impregnating [Aspect] of the Dual Two-Way Flow of Universal Energy: The East is the Son [Sun], the West is the Daughter [Moon], who Bears the Birth-Child of the New One [Androgynous].

And, don't mind me saying this, but I'll pass it out there once again: Everything is reptilian, for all Light is Serpentine in Origin (Cold), becomes Mammalian (Warm), and Returns to the Cold/Warm, or the Serpent-Hawk Condition, the Phoenix state, Dual Bird of ReBirth.

Carlos grasped all this, and is in the Air [aether-ether] about you, sometimes.

"'Sorcerers,' he said, 'have only on point of reference: "Infinity."
"He would continue repeating the same mantra to the very end:
"'I invented nothing.'"
("I Was Carlos Castaneda, The Afterlife Dialogues," Martin Goodman, 2001)

druggalo · 15-09-2009, 04:19 PM

kno dowt

2012 will beh tha end of religion

octopusrex · 15-09-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by druggalo

kno dowt

2012 will beh tha end of religion

Or the beginning!

lyghtkynge · 19-09-2009, 05:13 PM

“The flyers were super secret information of the sorcerers, but the photo of a flyer taken by someone outside of our group, served as an omen… Since that moment I began to talk of them. The flyers take away the consciousness of being.”
(Carlos Castaneda, unpublished notes in spanish)

pessi_optimist · 04-12-2009, 10:44 PM

I was intrigued by that passage too. It is from a book written in 95. Very poignant, for those who believe in ET intervention.

ageispolis · 29-01-2011, 09:37 PM

The books from Castaneda are totally satanic!

These witches who did the tensegrity video show the satanic symbol with their hands while moving around and they look very evil, just watch:

Carlos Castaneda's Tensegrity Volume One - YouTube

Also Don Juan was very occult and you just get into such advanced power of magic trough possession and it could be that all the knowledge came not from Don Juan, but from entities who spoke trough him to Castaneda so the people who read his books start to explore the world of drugs and expansion of the mind and so people will end up loosing everything and Don Juan even was teaching that we must loose everything in life to expand our knowledge.

Sounds of course logical, but now imagine people read this and 100.000 people will start living their lifes in a destructive way, so they loose it, so they expand their knowledge! They stop their jobs, do drugs for expanding their mind, say bye to friends and stop thinking - all this exactly is what these books are teaching you! Stop thinking! Loose yourself! You are a nothing! Understand that the cosmic eagle (reptilians?) will eat you one day! You are nothing special! You don´t need love! You need knowledge! Stop enjoying your life! You will not learn trough hedonism or joy! Start suffering! Suffering will expand your knowledge! This exactly is the believe-system of these books and than you get told that you must be a fighter, a warrior - a predator!

Because life is there to fight! Life is just about to be a predator! Isn´t this terrible wrong to teach? Its diametral to the teachings of Jesus Christ! There is nothing more satanical than the books and teachings of Castaneda. I loved them since I´m 15 years old and they are very clever and beautiful to read, but full of lies, without any moral and totally against the truth of reality! I just loved them because I felt intense sympathy for Castaneda with his philosophical questions, but these books are dangerous, evil and totally satanical!

pound · 31-01-2011, 02:40 AM

Great post Humito.

That particular passage caught my eye when I was reading Icke's "Children of the matrix"-as Icke references it several times.

This passage from the Emerald tablets of Thoth is very similar:

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In the form of man moved they amongst us, but only to sight (visible light spectrum), were they as are men. Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted, but appearing to man as men among men. Crept they into the councils, taking form that were like unto men. Slaying by their arts the chiefs of the kingdoms, taking their form and ruling o'er man. Only by magic could they be discovered, only by sound could their faces be seen. Sought they from the kingdom of shadows, to destroy man and rule in his place."

http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald.html

awarenow · 21-02-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by humito

... They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now . ....

This is very profound for me...
"They gave us their mind", this is the egoic mind of the predator. This is the reptilian influenced mind that is in constant fight or flight mode. Who feeds on fear and conflict. Our R complex fits nicely with Castaneda stories I feel.

humito · 09-06-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by awarenow

This is very profound for me...
"They gave us their mind", this is the egoic mind of the predator. This is the reptilian influenced mind that is in constant fight or flight mode. Who feeds on fear and conflict. Our R complex fits nicely with Castaneda stories I feel.

Yes although this would mean ALL thought ( THOTH) is not of our origin.........the elites who have closer bloodline links to the original " fallen angel,annuaki,nephilim etc etc etc" are more involved with the R complex,being incredibly ritualisticly minded than the rest of us and therefore control us with this mindset,however THEY are the most controlled of all by the master hypnotist GROUP entity egregore .............all thought is deception..........in our original state of awarness,wisdom and paradise,no thought exists ......

groovy · 18-08-2012, 10:37 PM

Personally, I read The Art of Dreaming by Carlos 18 years ago. Was facinated by it.

Practiced the techniques that Carlos' mentor presented to him and over time - years - I became quite adept at what some call "astral travel". Meeting different inorganic species but also humans and other animals.

I read the other books but never cared for the first two that deal with psychodelica.

Many blamed Carlos and his writings for the actions of willfully ignorant others who invated Mexico in hordes in the hunt for a shaman and peyote or the little smoke [mushrooms] . Funny. I was taught that we are all responsible for our own actions.

In his defence, not that he needs it, I can point out that Carlos' mentor made it clear that the ingestion of peyote or the little smoke should only be done under the watchfull eye of an experienced shaman. Nevermind that it was made clear that the ingestion of psychedelica was only a last resort because Carlos was extremely attached to the worldview that the reptilians forced down our throat for millenia.

I found it facinating that so many focussed in solely on the Messenger at the expense of the message itself. Personally, I simply verified one bit after another, putting those parts that made no sense on the back burner for future evaluation.

A simple technique called Stopping the Internal Dialogue was what let me to discover the existance of the retilians; the book The Active Side of Infinity in which Carlos talks about them had not yet been published, nor had I read anywhere else about them. It was quite a shock to say the least.

It took me about a year of continuous effort to learn to stop the internal dialogue. After I succeeded in that for the first time my internal dialogue would reassert itself by returning more powerful and active then it had before. I thought I was losing my mind.

It didn't take long to notice that there were actually two dialogues at play. One that I instinctively knew was mine and one that to my disbelieve could only stem from someone else. Like I said, I thought I was losing my mind.

On the level of the energybody/soul/spirit/etc I wittnessed my first reptilian.

It took six years of fighting before I was strong enough to escape their crasp. After the first five years, one night I was out there on the astral plane and was brought by another human to an old man who informed me that they, the reptilians, were trying to kill me.

Once the reptilians learn that you won't submit yourself to them their only viable option from a survivors' point of view is to take you out and eliminate the treat that you pose as a free person.

So, the final year was spend dodging their attacks and traps on the astral level. I was lucky enough to survive.

Something else I learned besides the very real existance of an alien entity that is feeding itself off of us at the expense of our awareness and well-being is that the Ancient Seers, not just of Mexico but of all over the world, are out there on the astral plane. And, just as Carlos' mentor told him, are still running the show.

I also, only a few years ago, met Carlos' mentor in person, as well as his associates, on the astral plane. He is staging a revolution against human stupidity. Meaning a final show down with the reptilians. I accepted his invitation to join his cause.

Why do I tell you all this? Because it would be a shame if people ignored the teachings that Carlos presented in his book because of lies that were spread about him in an attempt to discredit him and by doing so keep people away from those teachings as they are really all anyone needs to restore ones full awareness.

Light attracts darkness. People like Carlos, Icke and many others, are a treat to the dark forces that keep mankind in chains. Naturally, they try to elimate this treat. One of the tools they use for this is straight out lies to discredit and discourage. So, focus on the message, not on what is said about the messenger. Verify and run by your own experiences; the only kind of experience that should matter to you anyway.

Have a great day!

ultimate_warlord · 19-08-2012, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by awarenow

This is very profound for me...
"They gave us their mind", this is the egoic mind of the predator. This is the reptilian influenced mind that is in constant fight or flight mode. Who feeds on fear and conflict. Our R complex fits nicely with Castaneda stories I feel.

I`ve posted many times about Castaneda and the reality of our being prey to an occult dimension entity/ies. This forum is a kaleidoscopic view of the same conclusion. Namely:-

1) WE LIVE ON A PRISON PLANET.
2) WE ARE PREY TO A MORE POWERFUL PREDATOR/S.
3) THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS PREDICAMENT THAN TO AWAKE AND UNITE IN MUTUAL RESPECT.

mdecharlus · 19-08-2012, 04:14 PM

Barry Long's work is also very much tied to Stopping "thinking" i.e the internal dialogue - the constant chatter....The teaching of "forgetting one's self" that is watching one's self dispassionately ...as an observer without identification that one is say "Tom" or "Mary" and practicing observation of one's actions...similar to an actor depicting a role, but knowing that he is not that role...is in my opinion an excellent method of attaining freedom...

15-09-2009, 04:19 PM	#22
druggalo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Detroit Shitty Posts: 1,839	reup kno dowt 2012 will beh tha end of religion

19-09-2009, 05:13 PM	#24
lyghtkynge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 813	“The flyers were super secret information of the sorcerers, but the photo of a flyer taken by someone outside of our group, served as an omen… Since that moment I began to talk of them. The flyers take away the consciousness of being.” (Carlos Castaneda, unpublished notes in spanish)

04-12-2009, 10:44 PM	#25
pessi_optimist Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: London baby Posts: 821	I was intrigued by that passage too. It is from a book written in 95. Very poignant, for those who believe in ET intervention.

18-08-2012, 10:37 PM	#30
groovy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 147	Personally, I read The Art of Dreaming by Carlos 18 years ago. Was facinated by it. Practiced the techniques that Carlos' mentor presented to him and over time - years - I became quite adept at what some call "astral travel". Meeting different inorganic species but also humans and other animals. I read the other books but never cared for the first two that deal with psychodelica. Many blamed Carlos and his writings for the actions of willfully ignorant others who invated Mexico in hordes in the hunt for a shaman and peyote or the little smoke [mushrooms] . Funny. I was taught that we are all responsible for our own actions. In his defence, not that he needs it, I can point out that Carlos' mentor made it clear that the ingestion of peyote or the little smoke should only be done under the watchfull eye of an experienced shaman. Nevermind that it was made clear that the ingestion of psychedelica was only a last resort because Carlos was extremely attached to the worldview that the reptilians forced down our throat for millenia. I found it facinating that so many focussed in solely on the Messenger at the expense of the message itself. Personally, I simply verified one bit after another, putting those parts that made no sense on the back burner for future evaluation. A simple technique called Stopping the Internal Dialogue was what let me to discover the existance of the retilians; the book The Active Side of Infinity in which Carlos talks about them had not yet been published, nor had I read anywhere else about them. It was quite a shock to say the least. It took me about a year of continuous effort to learn to stop the internal dialogue. After I succeeded in that for the first time my internal dialogue would reassert itself by returning more powerful and active then it had before. I thought I was losing my mind. It didn't take long to notice that there were actually two dialogues at play. One that I instinctively knew was mine and one that to my disbelieve could only stem from someone else. Like I said, I thought I was losing my mind. On the level of the energybody/soul/spirit/etc I wittnessed my first reptilian. It took six years of fighting before I was strong enough to escape their crasp. After the first five years, one night I was out there on the astral plane and was brought by another human to an old man who informed me that they, the reptilians, were trying to kill me. Once the reptilians learn that you won't submit yourself to them their only viable option from a survivors' point of view is to take you out and eliminate the treat that you pose as a free person. So, the final year was spend dodging their attacks and traps on the astral level. I was lucky enough to survive. Something else I learned besides the very real existance of an alien entity that is feeding itself off of us at the expense of our awareness and well-being is that the Ancient Seers, not just of Mexico but of all over the world, are out there on the astral plane. And, just as Carlos' mentor told him, are still running the show. I also, only a few years ago, met Carlos' mentor in person, as well as his associates, on the astral plane. He is staging a revolution against human stupidity. Meaning a final show down with the reptilians. I accepted his invitation to join his cause. Why do I tell you all this? Because it would be a shame if people ignored the teachings that Carlos presented in his book because of lies that were spread about him in an attempt to discredit him and by doing so keep people away from those teachings as they are really all anyone needs to restore ones full awareness. Light attracts darkness. People like Carlos, Icke and many others, are a treat to the dark forces that keep mankind in chains. Naturally, they try to elimate this treat. One of the tools they use for this is straight out lies to discredit and discourage. So, focus on the message, not on what is said about the messenger. Verify and run by your own experiences; the only kind of experience that should matter to you anyway. Have a great day!

19-08-2012, 04:14 PM	#32
mdecharlus Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: London Posts: 3	Barry Long's work is also very much tied to Stopping "thinking" i.e the internal dialogue - the constant chatter....The teaching of "forgetting one's self" that is watching one's self dispassionately ...as an observer without identification that one is say "Tom" or "Mary" and practicing observation of one's actions...similar to an actor depicting a role, but knowing that he is not that role...is in my opinion an excellent method of attaining freedom...