Adam and Eve

deep_thinker_13 · 02-08-2012, 02:40 AM

Who were they really? Did they actually have something to do with the start of humanity or were they just completely made up? Figured we can discuss something besides the olympics and maybe focus on a new conspiracy

deep_thinker_13 · 08-08-2012, 10:41 PM

Maybe assassin's creed was getting on the right start here?

Assassin's Creed II - The Truth - YouTube

neil2009 · 08-08-2012, 11:07 PM

Eve was an appropriate name for the first female considering all woman are evil bitches.

kamarack · 08-08-2012, 11:09 PM

Genealogists seem to agree that we can all ultimately trace everyone back to one human female in North Africa / mid-east. Basically no-one on Earth, except the lizards

, is more distantly related than 50th cousin.

mrunhappy · 08-08-2012, 11:11 PM

I agree. Started demanding apples, and knowledge... then later she complained she didn't go out much, that she should have listened to her mother/sister, and that she didn't own a fucking Dyson.

deep_thinker_13 · 08-08-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kamarack

Genealogists seem to agree that we can all ultimately trace everyone back to one human female in North Africa / mid-east. Basically no-one on Earth, except the lizards

, is more distantly related than 50th cousin.

I have heard this somewhere before as well, and Well if true then this would completely expose the adam and eve theory as it claims adam was the first human being soon followed by eve popping out of his rib.

kamarack · 08-08-2012, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by deep_thinker_13

I have heard this somewhere before as well, and Well if true then this would completely expose the adam and eve theory as it claims adam was the first human being soon followed by eve popping out of his rib.

Adam didn't give birth to anyone so it would make sense we come from the woman but have Adam's DNA from the rib (no)?

vegan_on_the_land · 08-08-2012, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by deep_thinker_13

I have heard this somewhere before as well, and Well if true then this would completely expose the adam and eve theory as it claims adam was the first human being soon followed by eve popping out of his rib.

This woman wasn't the only woman. She is just the woman from whom we are all descended. But we are also descended from some of the other women alive at that time and before that time. But she is the only one we are all descended from. She is known as the Mitochondrial Eve.

It was once thought - not sure if it still is - that we are all descended from one man who lived somewhere in Africa at a different time to this woman. He could be called the Y-Chromosome Adam.

mithios · 08-08-2012, 11:26 PM

I take them as a metaphor for the advent of severance and death,via awareness of self infusing with the ego.

Like, as intended - we were truly part of,at one,with the natural world and source consciousness, connected to everything into infinity and fully aware of that.

But then,they "ate" the "apple",and knew themselves as naked,and were ashamed (or howeverit goes),whatever - they became self-aware,and separate. And ever since we have lived death.

That is what this is - death. It's not life,we don't see the world,we certainly don't live it. It was never meant to be like this for us. And because we are dead, everything we do creates more death. No matter how good an intention for any new creation may be,we eventually twist it and turn it into something destructive. And we look to our deaths as a release from this "hard world", that we can only attain some form of unity and true peace when we die. It's a cult of death. Because it already happened.

/end ramble

presidentgas · 08-08-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mithios

I take them as a metaphor for the advent of severance and death,via awareness of self infusing with the ego.

Like, as intended - we were truly part of,at one,with the natural world and source consciousness, connected to everything into infinity and fully aware of that.

But then,they "ate" the "apple",and knew themselves as naked,and were ashamed (or howeverit goes),whatever - they became self-aware,and separate. And ever since we have lived death.

That is what this is - death. It's not life,we don't see the world,we certainly don't live it. It was never meant to be like this for us. And because we are dead, everything we do creates more death. No matter how good an intention for any new creation may be,we eventually twist it and turn it into something destructive. And we look to our deaths as a release from this "hard world", that we can only attain some form of unity and true peace when we die. It's a cult of death. Because it already happened.

/end ramble

Remind me never to call you if I need cheering up.

mithios · 08-08-2012, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by presidentgas

Remind me never to call you if I need cheering up.

Madder Mortem - Hangman - YouTube

presidentgas · 08-08-2012, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mithios

Madder Mortem - Hangman - YouTube

I lasted 12 seconds before I started eyeing up the sharp knives in the kitchen...

trux newman · 08-08-2012, 11:41 PM

If we all descended from one couple, how come...

1. We're not all inbred.
2. There's so many different races and sub-races within them.

vegan_on_the_land · 08-08-2012, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by trux newman

If we all descended from one couple, how come...

1. We're not all inbred.
2. There's so many different races and sub-races within them.

There are so many races because all that happened about 150,000 - 200,000 years ago.

trux newman · 08-08-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vegan_on_the_land

There are so many races because all that happened about 150,000 - 200,000 years ago.

How though? If we all came from two individuals there was only one set of dna.

If they were from Africa then they'd be black and black genes are dominant. How did they become a mixture of dominant black genes and recessive white genes?

My theory is that each race was created from either a different animal/homonid species or was created using dna from different off world species/races.

bendoon · 08-08-2012, 11:57 PM

Men and Wowen were created on the 6th day, adam and eve were created on the 8th day after the day of rest. It's all there in black and white but people don't even bother to read it for themselves.

toallofyou · 09-08-2012, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mithios

Madder Mortem - Hangman - YouTube

I thought that was quite cheerful >.>

vegan_on_the_land · 09-08-2012, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by trux newman

How though? If we all came from two individuals there was only one set of dna.

If they were from Africa then they'd be black and black genes are dominant. How did they become a mixture of dominant black genes and recessive white genes?

My theory is that each race was created from either a different animal/homonid species or was created using dna from different off world species/races.

We can all be descended from two people. But we are also descended from other people. Cousins will share one set of grand parents but each will have another set unrelated to their cousins. Multiply this by thousands and thousands over the years and you'll see how we have different DNA. The one woman and one man are where our mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosomes come from. All of us have mitochondrial DNA from our mother and her mother and her mother, etc., but we also have genes from our father's mothers. All men have Y-chromosomes from their fathers and their fathers, etc., but they also have genes from their mother's fathers.

A simple way to think of it is that, usually, we get our surname from our father. We might be a Blenkinsop. But we have as many genes from all our other ancestors - from the Kellys, the Jones, the Edlemanns and the Parker-Bowles-Heathcotes.

mrunhappy · 09-08-2012, 11:18 AM

Right but either da son was getting jiggy wid mommy, or brudder was getting all blue loagoony with his sister, or daughter was really daddy's little girl.

Once it was just cousins fucking all was well and good, especially for the Royals and other illuminati. It is ok to do your cousin. How else you gonna propagate your big ears and genetic predicposition for baldness?

Don't get me started on ol' ginger bread.

trux newman · 09-08-2012, 11:30 AM

Maybe I'm just being thick here and not understanding genetics, but no matter how many cousins, uncles and granparents you have, they all go back to the same two ancestors so all their dna is the same.

Another thing is this shared maternal ancestor idea. The people behind it offer a service where they sample your dna and show you where abouts in the world it is. I had mine done and guess what? No Africa. No Middle East, no Far East. It's all European/Scandinavian.

Their official answer is that we started out black, then we mutated into arab, then we split in two and half of us mutated into europeans and the other half mutated into mongols. If that's the case, why do I (as a european) have no black or arab dna? Did every single last peice of dna mutate into something new? It's just rediculous.

If it's true, apart from having all that dna in us, we should also be able to see a gradient of the races merging into eachother at the borders but we don't.

I'm sticking with my 'We're all from different alien races' idea. I think people came here from a few planets and each one made their own 'human' and left people behind. The 'Human Family' is a lie of the NWO trying to get us all to abandon our true history and heritage and adopt their homogenised ideal of the melting pot.

02-08-2012, 02:40 AM	#1
deep_thinker_13 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 47	Adam and Eve Who were they really? Did they actually have something to do with the start of humanity or were they just completely made up? Figured we can discuss something besides the olympics and maybe focus on a new conspiracy

08-08-2012, 11:11 PM	#5
mrunhappy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,135	I agree. Started demanding apples, and knowledge... then later she complained she didn't go out much, that she should have listened to her mother/sister, and that she didn't own a fucking Dyson. __________________ Psalm 911: Back. But Wobbly.

08-08-2012, 11:26 PM	#9
mithios Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: UK Posts: 1,135	I take them as a metaphor for the advent of severance and death,via awareness of self infusing with the ego. Like, as intended - we were truly part of,at one,with the natural world and source consciousness, connected to everything into infinity and fully aware of that. But then,they "ate" the "apple",and knew themselves as naked,and were ashamed (or howeverit goes),whatever - they became self-aware,and separate. And ever since we have lived death. That is what this is - death. It's not life,we don't see the world,we certainly don't live it. It was never meant to be like this for us. And because we are dead, everything we do creates more death. No matter how good an intention for any new creation may be,we eventually twist it and turn it into something destructive. And we look to our deaths as a release from this "hard world", that we can only attain some form of unity and true peace when we die. It's a cult of death. Because it already happened. /end ramble __________________ The material world is merely a tool. And tools can build,but they cannot create.

08-08-2012, 11:41 PM	#13
trux newman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,074	If we all descended from one couple, how come... 1. We're not all inbred. 2. There's so many different races and sub-races within them. Last edited by trux newman; 08-08-2012 at 11:41 PM.

08-08-2012, 11:57 PM	#16
bendoon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 9,581	Men and Wowen were created on the 6th day, adam and eve were created on the 8th day after the day of rest. It's all there in black and white but people don't even bother to read it for themselves. __________________ Teenage mutant ninja atheists - the internets are full of 'em. You can spot them a mile off, repeating over and over the tired old arguments as found on jesusneverexisted.com and thejoyofsatan.com

08-08-2012, 11:07 PM	#3
neil2009 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,146	Eve was an appropriate name for the first female considering all woman are evil bitches.

08-08-2012, 11:09 PM	#4
kamarack Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 58	Genealogists seem to agree that we can all ultimately trace everyone back to one human female in North Africa / mid-east. Basically no-one on Earth, except the lizards , is more distantly related than 50th cousin.

09-08-2012, 11:18 AM	#19
mrunhappy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,135	Right but either da son was getting jiggy wid mommy, or brudder was getting all blue loagoony with his sister, or daughter was really daddy's little girl. Once it was just cousins fucking all was well and good, especially for the Royals and other illuminati. It is ok to do your cousin. How else you gonna propagate your big ears and genetic predicposition for baldness? Don't get me started on ol' ginger bread. __________________ Psalm 911: Back. But Wobbly.

09-08-2012, 11:30 AM	#20
trux newman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,074	Maybe I'm just being thick here and not understanding genetics, but no matter how many cousins, uncles and granparents you have, they all go back to the same two ancestors so all their dna is the same. Another thing is this shared maternal ancestor idea. The people behind it offer a service where they sample your dna and show you where abouts in the world it is. I had mine done and guess what? No Africa. No Middle East, no Far East. It's all European/Scandinavian. Their official answer is that we started out black, then we mutated into arab, then we split in two and half of us mutated into europeans and the other half mutated into mongols. If that's the case, why do I (as a european) have no black or arab dna? Did every single last peice of dna mutate into something new? It's just rediculous. If it's true, apart from having all that dna in us, we should also be able to see a gradient of the races merging into eachother at the borders but we don't. I'm sticking with my 'We're all from different alien races' idea. I think people came here from a few planets and each one made their own 'human' and left people behind. The 'Human Family' is a lie of the NWO trying to get us all to abandon our true history and heritage and adopt their homogenised ideal of the melting pot.