What Is Time? - Page 17

heartbeatsalute · 01-08-2012, 06:27 PM

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oiram · 01-08-2012, 07:00 PM

What Is Time?

If I would explain this in a spiritual way; I would say it like this>>>

For your body to appear as a shadow of your Spirit light this needs time to do so; even if this just takes milliseconds for your mind to shine the light onto your body.

Same like the aeons of your forefathers knowledge & wisdom taken time to give light to our spirits!

Now our minds will take time to reflect this light onto the body which results in the shadow.

Same like the external sun shines onto your external body to create the external shadow.

Between your body & shadow is the time factor.

No time no shadow! .... No time the light will not create a shadow..... No time between the spirit & body no mind.

No thinking time; no spirit light body shadow.......

No time no Human..... simple! >>>> to become a Human you need some learning & evaluation time.

So time is very important in Human terms!

Like 1 + 1 = 2

tasty wheat · 02-08-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jon galt

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sacredrealm · 02-08-2012, 05:23 PM

I agree mostly with the OP. I have/am disconected/am disconecting myself as much as possible from the "psychological" time, and only using that, such as the clock time to function in this "reality" (as best I can hah).

But I dont relate it to me. I know that I am seperate from clock time and it does not determine ageing.

heartbeatsalute · 02-08-2012, 09:40 PM

Found this interesting Osho article on Time.

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Osho : What is psychological time?

Mind is psychological time. Mind is time. If you don’t have any mind and you are simply silent with no thought moving within, there is no time for you, not psychological time. The clock will go on moving, but for you the inner clock stops – time stops, the world stops. That is my dimension, the dimension of meditation.

As you go deeper into meditation time disappears. When meditation has really bloomed there is no time found. It happens simultaneously: when the mind disappears time disappears. Hence down the ages the mystics have said that time and mind are nothing but two aspects of the same coin. Mind cannot live without time and time cannot live without mind.

Time is a way for the mind to exist. Mind creates future through desire, through dreaming. The future does not exist, it is only in imagination, and mind creates the past. The past also does not exist, it is only in the memory. The past is no more, the future is not yet, but both exist in the mind. And because of the past and the future you have the feeling of time.

Time is not divided into three parts as it is usually divided. Mystics divide time into two parts: the past and the future. Time has only two tenses: past, future. And what about the present? Mystics say the present is timeless because the present is mindless.

When you are utterly in the present, herenow, there is neither mind nor time. You transcend time and mind both, you enter into eternity. You are beyond time. You are in a totally different world – transformed, transmuted, transported.

When I talk about time I mean this time that is created by the mind. Mind clings with the past and clings with the future. It is not ready to renounce the past, it is not ready to die to the past, because it is in the past that it can have its roots.

And it is not ready to renounce desiring, dreaming, because it is in desiring and dreaming that it can live. It needs space; it creates a very false space for itself: tomorrow, which never comes. Mind knows of yesterdays and tomorrows, and nothing of today.

Hence all the Buddhas have insisted, ”Live in this moment.” To live in this moment is meditation, to be simply herenow is meditation. Those who are simply herenow this very moment with me are in meditation. This is meditation: the cuckoo calling from far away, and the airplane passing, and the crows and the birds.

And all is silent, and there is no movement in the mind – you are not thinking of the past and you are not thinking of the future. Time has stopped, the world has stopped. Stopping the world is the whole art of meditation. And to live in the moment is to live in eternity. To taste the moment with no idea, with no mind, is to taste immortality.

Time is mind. Time is death. Going beyond time is going beyond mind and beyond death. But if you want to know about chronological time you have to ask a physicist; that is not my concern. Psychological time is my basic concern. That’s my whole work here: to help you get out of psychological time.

---OSHO---

Surely, if Time is man-made it could only have been created by our mind.

oiram · 03-08-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by heartbeatsalute

Fiund this interesting Osho article on Time.

Surely, if Time is man-made it could only have been created by our mind.

And its not only created by our minds its also using & wasting all the time...... but then again wisdom takes time to develop through your mind!

Nice! ..... this was the perfect addition I was looking for.

This confirms my personal statement which I made in my own words.

heartbeatsalute · 09-08-2012, 05:01 AM

http://hinduism.about.com/od/basics/a/time.htm

Most of us are accustomed to living life according to linear beliefs and patterns of existence. We believe everything has a beginning, middle and an end. But Hinduism has little to do with the linear nature of history, the linear concept of time or the linear pattern of life.

Cyclical Time
The passage of 'linear' time has brought us where we are today. But Hinduism views the concept of time in a different way, and there is a cosmic perspective to it. Hindus believe the process of creation moves in cycles and that each cycle has four great epochs of time, namely Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dwapar Yuga and Kali Yuga. And because the process of creation is cyclical and never ending, it "begins to end and ends to begin".

Read more about the 4 Yugas
Time is God
According to the Hindu theory of creation, time (Sanskrit 'kal') is a manifestation of God. Creation begins when God makes his energies active and ends when he withdraws all his energies into a state of inactivity. God is timeless, for time is relative and ceases to exist in the Absolute. The past, the present and the future coexist in him simultaneously.

Kalachakra: The Cycle of Time
God creates the cycle of time, called Kalachakra, in order to create divisions and movements of life and sustain the worlds in periodic time frames. God also uses time to create the 'illusions' of life and death. It is time, which is accountable for old age, death and dying of his creations. When we overcome time, we become immortal. Death is not the end of the line, but a gateway to the next cycle, to birth. This is also true of the universe itself and akin to the cyclic patterns in the rhythms of nature.

More Hindu Concepts

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swamideva · 22-04-2013, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by heartbeatsalute

http://hinduism.about.com/od/basics/a/time.htm

Most of us are accustomed to living life according to linear beliefs and patterns of existence. We believe everything has a beginning, middle and an end. But Hinduism has little to do with the linear nature of history, the linear concept of time or the linear pattern of life.

Cyclical Time
The passage of 'linear' time has brought us where we are today. But Hinduism views the concept of time in a different way, and there is a cosmic perspective to it. Hindus believe the process of creation moves in cycles and that each cycle has four great epochs of time, namely Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dwapar Yuga and Kali Yuga. And because the process of creation is cyclical and never ending, it "begins to end and ends to begin".

Read more about the 4 Yugas
Time is God
According to the Hindu theory of creation, time (Sanskrit 'kal') is a manifestation of God. Creation begins when God makes his energies active and ends when he withdraws all his energies into a state of inactivity. God is timeless, for time is relative and ceases to exist in the Absolute. The past, the present and the future coexist in him simultaneously.

Kalachakra: The Cycle of Time
God creates the cycle of time, called Kalachakra, in order to create divisions and movements of life and sustain the worlds in periodic time frames. God also uses time to create the 'illusions' of life and death. It is time, which is accountable for old age, death and dying of his creations. When we overcome time, we become immortal. Death is not the end of the line, but a gateway to the next cycle, to birth. This is also true of the universe itself and akin to the cyclic patterns in the rhythms of nature.

More Hindu Concepts

Thank you heartbeat.

To elaborate more on the cyclical nature of time.
If you view time as a circle with a point on the circumference, the dot represents the beginning/end, life/death both are the same any other point on the circumference is the middle that influences the beginning and the end point.

A vortex can also be visualized as we evolve through many incarnations of the soul

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heartbeatsalute · 22-04-2013, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by swamideva

Thank you heartbeat.

To elaborate more on the cyclical nature of time.
If you view time as a circle with a point on the circumference, the dot represents the beginning/end, life/death both are the same any other point on the circumference is the middle that influences the beginning and the end point.

A vortex can also be visualized as we evolve through many incarnations of the soul

Thank you for your post swamideva!

heartbeatsalute · 22-04-2013, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bluetopaz

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Beautiful video, not much about time though.

mrunhappy · 22-04-2013, 08:34 AM

We are all time travellers, marching into the future...

heartbeatsalute · 23-04-2013, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by heartbeatsalute

Here's some more to add to the mix:

There are two time concepts in the world. In the West, the linear time concept has been prevalent. Christians, Jews, Mohammedans -- they are all offshoots of one judaic concept of life. They have believed in the linear concept of time; that time is moving in a line. The eastern concept -- the hindu, the buddhist, the jainist concept -- is different. It is circular. Time is moving in a circle.

If time is moving in a line, then things are not repeated again. The line goes on moving; it never comes back to meet and move on the same old track again. If time is thought to be circular, then everything is being repeated. And the eastern time concept seems to be more true -- because every movement is circular.

Just watch all the movements. The seasons moving around the year are circular -- again comes the summer... again, again. In the same way it moves. The earth moves in a circle, the sun moves in a circle, the stars move in a circle. And now Albert Einstein has suggested that the whole universe is also moving in a circle. Not only that -- Einstein introduced a very strange concept to the physics, and that is the concept of circular space. The whole space is circular.

The East has always thought that the circle is the natural way of things. They move in a circle and by and by they become circular. All movement is circular. Then time has also to be circular, because time is nothing but pure movement. If you think about time as circular then the whole world view changes. Your whole life is also circular according to the eastern way of seeing.

---OSHO

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bluetopaz · 23-04-2013, 05:07 AM

Makes a lot sense actually. Thanks!

Personally I have always leaned toward the oriental way of seeing things.

Hmm so something that happened say 8 years ago comes back into the circle and then you revisit that but becuase you have gone through the 8 cyclical years you then understand this. Wow ooooo! That makes a LOT of sense.

Actually I'm remembering something I used to say to my brother over and over again when I was a younger child and that was " its all circeles within circles, life is circles within circles" and when a lampshade came out made of seashells of circluar shape all joined together I had to have it, would stare and stare at it.. Funny but true.

01-08-2012, 07:00 PM	#322
oiram Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lost Oz "Unless they oppose it, they will be blamed for it. If they defend it, they are part of it." Posts: 7,169	What Is time? explained in a spiritual way! What Is Time? If I would explain this in a spiritual way; I would say it like this>>> For your body to appear as a shadow of your Spirit light this needs time to do so; even if this just takes milliseconds for your mind to shine the light onto your body. Same like the aeons of your forefathers knowledge & wisdom taken time to give light to our spirits! Now our minds will take time to reflect this light onto the body which results in the shadow. Same like the external sun shines onto your external body to create the external shadow. Between your body & shadow is the time factor. No time no shadow! .... No time the light will not create a shadow..... No time between the spirit & body no mind. No thinking time; no spirit light body shadow....... No time no Human..... simple! >>>> to become a Human you need some learning & evaluation time. So time is very important in Human terms! Like 1 + 1 = 2 __________________ ---> You have the RIGHT NOT TO VOTE ! <---> for EVIL ! B. Freedman Speaks on Zionism Here * * PROTOCOLS OF ZION Here * * Loose Change Video * * OBAMA DECEPTION Full Video * * ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY Here * * HENRY MAKOW Here Video Download Tool Here Unless they oppose it, they will be blamed for it. If they defend it, they are part of it! Last edited by oiram; 01-08-2012 at 07:20 PM.

02-08-2012, 05:23 PM	#324
sacredrealm Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 184	I agree mostly with the OP. I have/am disconected/am disconecting myself as much as possible from the "psychological" time, and only using that, such as the clock time to function in this "reality" (as best I can hah). But I dont relate it to me. I know that I am seperate from clock time and it does not determine ageing. Last edited by sacredrealm; 02-08-2012 at 05:23 PM.

09-08-2012, 05:01 AM	#327
heartbeatsalute Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 10,196	http://hinduism.about.com/od/basics/a/time.htm Most of us are accustomed to living life according to linear beliefs and patterns of existence. We believe everything has a beginning, middle and an end. But Hinduism has little to do with the linear nature of history, the linear concept of time or the linear pattern of life. Cyclical Time The passage of 'linear' time has brought us where we are today. But Hinduism views the concept of time in a different way, and there is a cosmic perspective to it. Hindus believe the process of creation moves in cycles and that each cycle has four great epochs of time, namely Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dwapar Yuga and Kali Yuga. And because the process of creation is cyclical and never ending, it "begins to end and ends to begin". Read more about the 4 Yugas Time is God According to the Hindu theory of creation, time (Sanskrit 'kal') is a manifestation of God. Creation begins when God makes his energies active and ends when he withdraws all his energies into a state of inactivity. God is timeless, for time is relative and ceases to exist in the Absolute. The past, the present and the future coexist in him simultaneously. Kalachakra: The Cycle of Time God creates the cycle of time, called Kalachakra, in order to create divisions and movements of life and sustain the worlds in periodic time frames. God also uses time to create the 'illusions' of life and death. It is time, which is accountable for old age, death and dying of his creations. When we overcome time, we become immortal. Death is not the end of the line, but a gateway to the next cycle, to birth. This is also true of the universe itself and akin to the cyclic patterns in the rhythms of nature. More Hindu Concepts __________________ The belief that society exists has sabotaged every effort to change mankind. It is the reason why revolutions have failed. It is about a totally different revolution: the revolution in the heart of the individual. Last edited by heartbeatsalute; 09-08-2012 at 05:03 AM.

25-08-2012, 04:48 AM	#328
heartbeatsalute Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 10,196	Any more opinions on this ad? http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Safet...ilm-30901.html Safety not guaranteed movie trailer. __________________ The belief that society exists has sabotaged every effort to change mankind. It is the reason why revolutions have failed. It is about a totally different revolution: the revolution in the heart of the individual. Last edited by heartbeatsalute; 25-08-2012 at 06:22 AM.

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bluetopaz Inactive Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 857	Oh yeah count me in baby! Cos I have just changed the whole past scenery and fast tracking it to the NOW>> Last edited by bluetopaz; 22-04-2013 at 01:46 AM.

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mrunhappy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 4,135	We are all time travellers, marching into the future... __________________ Psalm 911: Back. But Wobbly.

23-04-2013, 05:07 AM	#337
bluetopaz Inactive Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 857	Makes a lot sense actually. Thanks!Personally I have always leaned toward the oriental way of seeing things. Hmm so something that happened say 8 years ago comes back into the circle and then you revisit that but becuase you have gone through the 8 cyclical years you then understand this. Wow ooooo! That makes a LOT of sense. Actually I'm remembering something I used to say to my brother over and over again when I was a younger child and that was " its all circeles within circles, life is circles within circles" and when a lampshade came out made of seashells of circluar shape all joined together I had to have it, would stare and stare at it.. Funny but true. Last edited by bluetopaz; 23-04-2013 at 05:12 AM.