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Old 28-07-2012, 05:55 PM   #41
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I do wish Christians would learn the difference between irreligion and atheism, one can still have a religion and be an atheist.
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Old 28-07-2012, 06:11 PM   #42
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No they can't I am an atheist and I don't have a religion. Don't confuse this though for ignorance I enjoy reading much theology and sometimes information on other religions because it is interesting in a way. I just don't buy into the myth.
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Old 28-07-2012, 06:27 PM   #43
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No they can't I am an atheist and I don't have a religion. Don't confuse this though for ignorance I enjoy reading much theology and sometimes information on other religions because it is interesting in a way. I just don't buy into the myth.
This is exactly how I am. For years I've loved reading about various religions and beliefs, but I'm never convinced by them. I do believe in the concept that we are all one, share an energetic connection to the universe etc, and although I've read the studies that seem to prove that reincarnation exists I still don't believe in any true continuation of "self" after death. Besides, being as most people don't remember their future lives it's effectively a different person anyway, so why should we care? I'd rather just focus on this life and find peace in nihilism.
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Old 30-07-2012, 03:38 AM   #44
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this probably has a lot to do with post secondary education, where a lot of brainwashing takes place, whereas more whites attend post secondary , however this cannot be the entire reason, as there is still a lot of atheist brainwashing in secondary school. When man begins to think of himself in a very high regard, filled with hubris, he has less inclination to look to God, but make himself something worthy of worship.
The Illuminati began during the enlightenment, when mankind believed through science, everything could be explained and mankind would evolve technologically. The enlightenment took place in Europe, and this was where the attack on God began. Europe which was traditionally Christian began to see alternate ways of thinking, and this is now associated as "Western culture". In reality this enlightenment is hardcore brainwashing, which is the ironic thing. This also dates back to the Greeks, the genesis of Western culture. They were the first to question God's existence, question superstition and things of a spiritual nature preferring "rational" explanations.
I believe certain people are just more naturally spiritual than others, thats not to say that all races cannot have spirituality, but I believe some races are just more in tune with the God and spirituality than others. Look at the wars today. You cannot pull that "enlightenment" "science" "atheist" nonsense on the people of the middle east. They will literally kill you, yet that stuff is much more easily recieved amongst Europeans it seems.
Like I said earlier, I believe much of it has to do with a greater level of brainwashing in "Western" nations, especially universities and colleges, much of it is due to the cultural degradation of "Western" nations, however as was already pointed out, most non whites living in "Western" nations are still religious despite propoganda which still exists outside of post secondary institutions. It is very possible some people just naturally accept these type of ideas.
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Old 30-07-2012, 06:28 AM   #45
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Organised atheism is largely a european phenomenon, born of the Enlightenment. Thus is it understandable if it spreads here first.
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Old 30-07-2012, 07:12 AM   #46
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The population of the US is 311,591,917.

The number of people that aren't considered as "Non-Hispanic White" is 114,774,365.

The number of people that follow the Christian faith is about 237,000,000.

So no matter how you look at it that's a lot of white theists.
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Old 30-07-2012, 09:48 AM   #47
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this probably has a lot to do with post secondary education, where a lot of brainwashing takes place, whereas more whites attend post secondary , however this cannot be the entire reason, as there is still a lot of atheist brainwashing in secondary school. When man begins to think of himself in a very high regard, filled with hubris, he has less inclination to look to God, but make himself something worthy of worship.
The Illuminati began during the enlightenment, when mankind believed through science, everything could be explained and mankind would evolve technologically. The enlightenment took place in Europe, and this was where the attack on God began. Europe which was traditionally Christian began to see alternate ways of thinking, and this is now associated as "Western culture". In reality this enlightenment is hardcore brainwashing, which is the ironic thing. This also dates back to the Greeks, the genesis of Western culture. They were the first to question God's existence, question superstition and things of a spiritual nature preferring "rational" explanations.
I believe certain people are just more naturally spiritual than others, thats not to say that all races cannot have spirituality, but I believe some races are just more in tune with the God and spirituality than others. Look at the wars today. You cannot pull that "enlightenment" "science" "atheist" nonsense on the people of the middle east. They will literally kill you, yet that stuff is much more easily recieved amongst Europeans it seems.
Like I said earlier, I believe much of it has to do with a greater level of brainwashing in "Western" nations, especially universities and colleges, much of it is due to the cultural degradation of "Western" nations, however as was already pointed out, most non whites living in "Western" nations are still religious despite propoganda which still exists outside of post secondary institutions. It is very possible some people just naturally accept these type of ideas.
Orthodox Christianity is much worse than atheism. Far worse. So is Orthodox Islam and Orthodox Judaism. These three Orthodox religions have ruined the whole world. Atheism and materialism is a direct consequence of Monotheistic Orthodox religion. I challenge you to prove me wrong.
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The population of the US is 311,591,917.

The number of people that aren't considered as "Non-Hispanic White" is 114,774,365.

The number of people that follow the Christian faith is about 237,000,000.

So no matter how you look at it that's a lot of white theists.
Or rather a lot of white monotheists!
Polytheists and deists aren't as bad as that lot of lunatics!
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Old 30-07-2012, 10:30 AM   #49
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I am white.
I am somewhat religious.
I have friends that are black and atheist.
I also have friends that are asian and Christian.
This generalization about people of all types is honestly disgusting me and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
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I am white.
I am somewhat religious.
I have friends that are black and atheist.
I also have friends that are asian and Christian.
This generalization about people of all types is honestly disgusting me and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
We were talking about white monotheists, to be sure. -.-
I, for one, was not intending to come across as generalizing.

I am white.
I am religious, spiritual and philosophical.
I have had friends who are asian, black, etc who have been both Christian and atheists. It's a mixed bag of a world.

Discrimination of ANY kind is a horrible thing...and those who use discrimination as a shield to defend their horrific, sickening, money-driven, greed-driven agendas and lifestyles are just...*shakes head*
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Or rather a lot of white monotheists!
Polytheists and deists aren't as bad as that lot of lunatics!
Haha, I share your sentiments. I find the ascension junkies of the New Age movement to be just as crazy though.
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Old 30-07-2012, 11:29 AM   #52
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To the OP,

My theory frankly would be education. Some crazy figure has the majority of biologists claiming they don't believe in a God (I've got 95% in my head but can't remember the actual figure). Generally speaking most Caucasian people come from developed countries with pretty strong education especially in math and science nowadays - how many of you guys had compulsory math in your final high years of high school?

Meanwhile Africa and Asia, the places that Religion appears strongest and is still expanding, have poorer education and dissemination of knowledge compared to Western Nations. As for city centres in America - well you know the reputation of the American high school education system...

Obviously being religious/atheist has nothing to do with skin colour but access to information that can contradict what your preacher or church sponsored teacher is telling you is far harder to come by and far harder to share.

Personally I find atheists annoying as fuck and heavy on the preaching side and I think agnostic is a better position to be anyway - far too much crazy shit in the world to disregard it all just cause we may not have measured it yet. Just my 2cents
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Haha, I share your sentiments. I find the ascension junkies of the New Age movement to be just as crazy though.
The New Age rubbish is just a heap of corruption. Just groups of idiots who preach light, light and light! It's not all about the fucking light! There is darkness too! The darkness is also essential! If we don't journey into the darkness where our fears reside, how do we become balanced? The New Age is just a fake money-grabbing business. Real spirituality is FAR different! Tarot and Yoga are not a New Age thing. They have important places in discovering the Universe and it's beautiful stories.

The New Age, in essence, is absolute fakery and a perversion of true spiritual teachings. All for Materialism, no less. Bah, it's sickening. "Ascended Masters" my fucking arse!
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To the OP,

My theory frankly would be education. Some crazy figure has the majority of biologists claiming they don't believe in a God (I've got 95% in my head but can't remember the actual figure). Generally speaking most Caucasian people come from developed countries with pretty strong education especially in math and science nowadays - how many of you guys had compulsory math in your final high years of high school?

Meanwhile Africa and Asia, the places that Religion appears strongest and is still expanding, have poorer education and dissemination of knowledge compared to Western Nations. As for city centres in America - well you know the reputation of the American high school education system...

Obviously being religious/atheist has nothing to do with skin colour but access to information that can contradict what your preacher or church sponsored teacher is telling you is far harder to come by and far harder to share.

Personally I find atheists annoying as fuck and heavy on the preaching side and I think agnostic is a better position to be anyway - far too much crazy shit in the world to disregard it all just cause we may not have measured it yet. Just my 2cents
I agree with you mostly. I am spiritual and philosophical. I was a Catholic Christian. Then I learned it was shit essentially. I became a Satanist. Then I started looking into far wider studies. I have personally studied bits of Kabbalah, Hermeticism, Esoteric Christianity, Freemasonry, etc. I am of no particular religion.

I have even studied certain fields of science, like Chemistry and Physics (no very deeply though) and have looked at all of their latest theories. I am still learning though.

Atheistic Science is a fucking brain-drain. As far as I'm concerned, real science is unbiased philosophy in all of it's beautiful forms. Greek philosophy is some of the truest science that ever existed! Socrates was the ULTIMATE physician! Modern day "medicine" is complete rubbish...

Hope you made sense out of that!
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The New Age rubbish is just a heap of corruption. Just groups of idiots who preach light, light and light! It's not all about the fucking light! There is darkness too! The darkness is also essential! If we don't journey into the darkness where our fears reside, how do we become balanced? The New Age is just a fake money-grabbing business. Real spirituality is FAR different! Tarot and Yoga are not a New Age thing. They have important places in discovering the Universe and it's beautiful stories.

The New Age, in essence, is absolute fakery and a perversion of true spiritual teachings. All for Materialism, no less. Bah, it's sickening. "Ascended Masters" my fucking arse!
Mm, I agree. I find Theosophy and Anthroposophy quite interesting, but all the modern New Age "teachers" just seem to plagiarize each other and put their own personal spin on things in order to make a profit off of the vapid hippies who will believe anything as long as it contains the words love and light repeated over and over
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Mm, I agree. I find Theosophy and Anthroposophy quite interesting, but all the modern New Age "teachers" just seem to plagiarize each other and put their own personal spin on things in order to make a profit off of the vapid hippies who will believe anything as long as it contains the words love and light repeated over and over
You summarized that brilliantly! It is concise and explains the whole movement in just a single sentence!

They even abuse the works of Mr. Jung to further their own rubbish...twisting his words of wisdom to get more customers!

I wonder if they speak of light and love when a family member dies...that would be a paradox!
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Why do all religious people ask STUPID questions?
Why are people so insecure like you when they question Europeans lack of spiritual understanding?

You do realize these elites, these Zionists, the royals these secret societies, they are all highly spiritual and many of not all of them believe in Lucifer and Satan? Funny how we are serve to make these people money isn't it? These people laugh at atheism, they laugh at modern science an evolution theory, they know its shit, that's the whole point of it, to keep you lost.

anyway.

Modern atheism was coined by middle class and upper class Europeans funded by devil worshiping bankers.

their theories are designed as a ground level fairy tale to deceive middle class upper class Europeans to give them a chip on their shoulder, they become perfectly entitled scream like a immature child LOGIC AND EVIDENCE when something is presented outside their understanding.


The main point of atheism is to make people feel as if they have no power, they are just a result of random evolution, they are just a meat sack who only objective is to survive and make money.

The only thing atheism has done is make corporations trillions and trillions of dollars.
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I am white.
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I have friends that are black and atheist.
I also have friends that are asian and Christian.
This generalization about people of all types is honestly disgusting me and you should be ashamed of yourselves.
black atheists, not all of them but they would most likely be uncle toms and will be basically copying their friends views to fit in.

Not all of them but that's the usual case.
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Why are people so insecure like you when they question Europeans lack of spiritual understanding?

You do realize these elites, these Zionists, the royals these secret societies, they are all highly spiritual and many of not all of them believe in Lucifer and Satan? Funny how we are serve to make these people money isn't it? These people laugh at atheism, they laugh at modern science an evolution theory, they know its shit, that's the whole point of it, to keep you lost.

anyway.

Modern atheism was coined by middle class and upper class Europeans funded by devil worshiping bankers.

their theories are designed as a ground level fairy tale to deceive middle class upper class Europeans to give them a chip on their shoulder, they become perfectly entitled scream like a immature child LOGIC AND EVIDENCE when something is presented outside their understanding.


The main point of atheism is to make people feel as if they have no power, they are just a result of random evolution, they are just a meat sack who only objective is to survive and make money.

The only thing atheism has done is make corporations trillions and trillions of dollars.

Atheism is the position that you require evidence before believing in something.

Example:

You probably don't believe in Zeus, Odin, Pangu or Zarathusa- if you dont then that makes you a atheist.

It's not a conspiracy, it's quite reasonable.

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