DECEPTION ALERT: dec 21 2012 is NOT THE END!

[mikel84]

thats correct, dec212012 is not the end of the world OR the end of the yuga.
the kali yuga still has 10,000+ more years til the beginning of satya yuga, or the age of truth. BUT the Mahabharata says 5000 years into the kali yuga, there will be a "golden age of the kali yuga" things will be "different" but the evil doers will still be around because it is still kali yuga

[satan666]

That's no great surprise to me, the only reason Dec 2012 was made into such a big thing was to make money, look at all the books, movies etc, it's rediculous and still people buy into it lol

[valmar]

Originally Posted by mikel84

thats correct, dec212012 is not the end of the world OR the end of the yuga.
the kali yuga still has 10,000+ more years til the beginning of satya yuga, or the age of truth. BUT the Mahabharata says 5000 years into the kali yuga, there will be a "golden age of the kali yuga" things will be "different" but the evil doers will still be around because it is still kali yuga

I once believed in this rubbish. As 2012 wore on, I believed less and less. Now I think it's just hype and bullshit. It's not about the physical world going down the toilet and everything will be ignorant bliss...but hey! It's good for business and fear sells! Even if it's made up or an something that has been twisted and blown of proportion, as long as it sells, do the media and all really care? Nope.

However, Mayan philosophy has something deeper to it than what is being displayed to the ignorant masses. There is an esoteric side to the Mayan calender and the Cycles...wait...that's it! The Cycles...of time...hmmmm...

[ferryman to the dead]

Only the end to the paranoid....

[mrunhappy]

kali yuga is now.

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[ultimate_warlord]

Well...if this isn`t Kali Yuga, I´m glad I won`t be around for the real McCoy.

[lavista4u]

I'm from India..All this Kali Yuga, Dwaper Yuga, Treta Yuga is one big gigantic hoax to lure you into religion BS...It sounds "exotic" to the west, so some are exploiting this Yuga stuff as its sounds cool...like the Mayan stuff and ohh then there is another BS...Vedas, vimanas and then the biggest hoax of all YOGA....

These three - four words are very popular in the west and many innocent researchers fall into the trap of "exotic science" stuff

Have you guys even been to India, its Hell down here...Corruption, poverty, lies, cheating, deceit, begging children, girl infanticide, women being burned for dowry, lowest life expectancy, highest infant mortality...in whatever stats you look into...India starts after 100...

This has been going on not for 10, 20, 100, 1000 years but India has been like that for 1000s upon 1000s of years where earlier kings put taxes on people and if you do not pay, they cut your wife's breasts....During the vedic period, the ruling elite invented "caste" system better than "racism"so that even after you die, your kid becomes a natural slave to the elite.

Thanks to vedas, we have caste, dowry, girl killing and what not..all tools to control human slaves...These are the guys who came up with yugas, yogas and vimanas to control you further....

The years are just arbitrary, whenever they felt the threat of slaves waking up, they changed the dates to end times like now its kali yuga...same sh**it different toilet paper

[roman piso]

People seems to forget that the ONLY Astrological event that will occur on DEC 21 2012 is the WINTER SOLSTICE ... It happens every year...

Every Culture that Creates Calenders, Mayans-Africans-Druids.. The Main Purpose was for Crops, and knowing the time to Harvest, Plant Crops, and to ease the Birth of Animals

Genesis 1 is actually a Story of the Crop Cycle, the most popular type of Gods are those symbolizing Fertility..

Stupid 21st Century people

[valmar]

Originally Posted by roman piso

People seems to forget that the ONLY Astrological event that will occur on DEC 21 2012 is the WINTER SOLSTICE ... It happens every year...

Every Culture that Creates Calenders, Mayans-Africans-Druids.. The Main Purpose was for Crops, and knowing the time to Harvest, Plant Crops, and to ease the Birth of Animals

Genesis 1 is actually a Story of the Crop Cycle, the most popular type of Gods are those symbolizing Fertility..

Stupid 21st Century people

You're not wrong there...although Genesis should be read from the original Hebrew texts. The true meaning is distorted and lost in translation. The calenders were created for those purposes. Even the Zodiac is a chart for important times of the year! The Zodiac really represents various seasons and stuff.

Genesis, the Zodiac, etc. There are multi-layered meanings to them...there's not just one interpretation...there are many! And all of them true, depending on the method of interpretation!

[riseaquarius]

According to a secret message by Britney Spears, the end is near, and it will begin as a solar event. What happens next must be seen and heard to be believed..

The video link is in my signature.

This video is terrifying as shit.
Half of you won't believe it, and as far as I know, I'm the first person to ever notice it.
I would like to know how Britney could possibly be making any money off something almost nobody recognizes, even when it's pointed out to them.

If you'd like to know more, please watch 'Illumination Through Music Part 01: Restoring Context' on my YouTube channel.
Hundreds of other artists describe this same nightmarish scenario.. and nobody sees it..

[valmar]

Originally Posted by riseaquarius

According to a secret message by Britney Spears, the end is near, and it will begin as a solar event. What happens next must be seen and heard to be believed..

The video link is in my signature.

This video is terrifying as shit.
Half of you won't believe it, and as far as I know, I'm the first person to ever notice it.
I would like to know how Britney could possibly be making any money off something almost nobody recognizes, even when it's pointed out to them.

If you'd like to know more, please watch 'Illumination Through Music Part 01: Restoring Context' on my YouTube channel.
Hundreds of other artists describe this same nightmarish scenario.. and nobody sees it..

One problem, riseaquarius...we aren't fighting the Illuminati.

Jefferson on Weishaupt:
"As Weishaupt lived under the tyranny of a despot and priests, he knew that caution was necessary even in spreading information, and the principles of pure morality. This has given an air of mystery to his views, was the foundation of his banishment. ... If Weishaupt had written here, where no secrecy is necessary in our endeavors to render men wise and virtuous, he would not have thought of any secret machinery for that purpose."
http://illuminati-order.com/

Evidence would suggest that the Bavarian Illuminati was nothing more than a curious historical footnote. Certainly, this is the opinion of masonic writers. Conspiracy theorists though, are not noted for applying Occam’s razor and have decided that there are connections between the Illuminati, Freemasonry, the Trilateral Commission, British Emperialism, International Zionism and communism (if you read the writings of Alberto Rivera and Jack T. Chick of Chino California), that all lead back to the Vatican (or if David Icke is to be believed, the British house of Windsor and extra-terrestrial lizard people) in a bid for world domination. Believe what you will but there is no evidence that any Illuminati survived its founders.

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/illuminati.html

Please watch this enlightening video on liberty:
http://illuminati-order.com/Philosop...ty-english.swf

Not everything is a fucking conspiracy.
No point attacking the Illuminati. They are innocent.

Study this:
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-mason...sonry_faq.html

[cwl3]

Originally Posted by lavista4u

I'm from India..All this Kali Yuga, Dwaper Yuga, Treta Yuga is one big gigantic hoax to lure you into religion BS...It sounds "exotic" to the west, so some are exploiting this Yuga stuff as its sounds cool...like the Mayan stuff and ohh then there is another BS...Vedas, vimanas and then the biggest hoax of all YOGA....

These three - four words are very popular in the west and many innocent researchers fall into the trap of "exotic science" stuff

Have you guys even been to India, its Hell down here...Corruption, poverty, lies, cheating, deceit, begging children, girl infanticide, women being burned for dowry, lowest life expectancy, highest infant mortality...in whatever stats you look into...India starts after 100...

This has been going on not for 10, 20, 100, 1000 years but India has been like that for 1000s upon 1000s of years where earlier kings put taxes on people and if you do not pay, they cut your wife's breasts....During the vedic period, the ruling elite invented "caste" system better than "racism"so that even after you die, your kid becomes a natural slave to the elite.

Thanks to vedas, we have caste, dowry, girl killing and what not..all tools to control human slaves...These are the guys who came up with yugas, yogas and vimanas to control you further....

The years are just arbitrary, whenever they felt the threat of slaves waking up, they changed the dates to end times like now its kali yuga...same sh**it different toilet paper

This is a good post thank you.

Lots of people blow stuff out of proportion, claiming everything that comes from the east is good, and that the things in the west are bad. Is this really like children who are fed up with their toys?

Kinda romanticising less well known things with the idea that they contain hidden knowledge that will somehow change their world.

But really typical society in the west isn't that bad in comparison to other things going on ... or at least, it's not really any worse.

[alephvian]

Originally Posted by valmar

One problem, riseaquarius...we aren't fighting the Illuminati.

Jefferson on Weishaupt:
"As Weishaupt lived under the tyranny of a despot and priests, he knew that caution was necessary even in spreading information, and the principles of pure morality. This has given an air of mystery to his views, was the foundation of his banishment. ... If Weishaupt had written here, where no secrecy is necessary in our endeavors to render men wise and virtuous, he would not have thought of any secret machinery for that purpose."
http://illuminati-order.com/


http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/illuminati.html

Please watch this enlightening video on liberty:
http://illuminati-order.com/Philosop...ty-english.swf

Not everything is a fucking conspiracy.
No point attacking the Illuminati. They are innocent.

Study this:
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-mason...sonry_faq.html

I wish I could find more translated works of Adam Weishaupt...

[valmar]

Originally Posted by alephvian

I wish I could find more translated works of Adam Weishaupt...

I wish I could too...then we could lay to rest the untrue claims made about the Illuminati. The lies and propaganda seem firmly stuck in peoples heads. I still see rubbish around the internet claiming the Illuminati are doing this and doing that...urgh.

The Illuminati hated the Vatican. Then again, so does Billy Connolly.
The Christians have been taught to hate this beautiful group of men and women who...unfortunately failed in their mission...

I wish their New World Order was a reality. No more Vatican. No more fundamentalist religious madness. No more wars started over a debate on whether some group is right and the other group is wrong. Just good old philosophy and non-fundie religion, with a non-Materialistic science thrown in. That would be beautiful. That is my dream-world! Hahaha!
Pity it seems an impossibility...

To hell with the Conspiracy Nuts! Because of them, the REAL conspiracies often go unnoticed! Argh! >_<

[alephvian]

Originally Posted by valmar

I wish I could too...then we could lay to rest the untrue claims made about the Illuminati. The lies and propaganda seem firmly stuck in peoples heads. I still see rubbish around the internet claiming the Illuminati are doing this and doing that...urgh.

The Illuminati hated the Vatican. Then again, so does Billy Connolly.
The Christians have been taught to hate this beautiful group of men and women who...unfortunately failed in their mission...

I wish their New World Order was a reality. No more Vatican. No more fundamentalist religious madness. No more wars started over a debate on whether some group is right and the other group is wrong. Just good old philosophy and non-fundie religion, with a non-Materialistic science thrown in. That would be beautiful. That is my dream-world! Hahaha!
Pity it seems an impossibility...

To hell with the Conspiracy Nuts! Because of them, the REAL conspiracies often go unnoticed! Argh! >_<

You're right, religious superstition and church controlled philosophy have ruined many countries and furthermore the planet. So many types of fundamentalists it's nauseating. Bush called himself a born again Christian or something like that, so he had fundamentalists and other brainwashed people supporting and joining the military. That's just one example. And the 40 million or so Christian Zionists.

And the materialistic science has got to go, it's making people so left brained it's sickening. 55 million abortions because science says we have no soul and no purpose:

http://www.numberofabortions.com/

Now they're arguing for abortions up to age three!

http://naturalsociety.com/medical-jo...rth-abortions/

How far is this going to go? I don't know but we need a positive change soon. Maybe a simultaneous DMT trip from a solar flare or something for everyone on the planet...I know that's kind of pseudo science but I can only hope...

"Whoever does not close his ear to the lamentations of the miserable, nor his heart to gentle pity; whoever is the friend and brother of the unfortunate; whoever has a heart capable of love and friendship; whoever is steadfast in adversity, unwearied in the carrying out of whatever has been once engaged in, undaunted in the overcoming of difficulties; whoever does not mock and despise the weak; whose soul is susceptible of conceiving great designs, desirous of rising superior to all base motives, and of distinguishing himself by deeds of benevolence; whoever shuns idleness; whoever considers no knowledge as unessential which he may have the opportunity of acquiring, regarding the knowledge of mankind as his chief study; whoever, when truth and virtue are in question, despising the approbation of the multitude, is sufficiently courageous to follow the dictates of his own heart, - such a one is a proper candidate." - Adam Weishuapt

From: http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/illuminati.html#014

Edit: ignorance is the true conspiracy, always has been. Without knowing, we fall for anything!

[valmar]

Originally Posted by alephvian

You're right, religious superstition and church controlled philosophy have ruined many countries and furthermore the planet. So many types of fundamentalists it's nauseating. Bush called himself a born again Christian or something like that, so he had fundamentalists and other brainwashed people supporting and joining the military. That's just one example. And the 40 million or so Christian Zionists.

It's total madness...if there ever was a literal Hell, this is it!

And the materialistic science has got to go, it's making people so left brained it's sickening. 55 million abortions because science says we have no soul and no purpose:

http://www.numberofabortions.com/

Now they're arguing for abortions up to age three!

http://naturalsociety.com/medical-jo...rth-abortions/

How far is this going to go? I don't know but we need a positive change soon. Maybe a simultaneous DMT trip from a solar flare or something for everyone on the planet...I know that's kind of pseudo science but I can only hope...

Materialistic Science is not science! It is pseudo-science! TRUE science is a blend of physical and spiritual matters. Essentially, philosophy. The Greeks had the right of it. Socrates knew what caused sickness and how to heal it.

Modern...uh, medicine has gone completely backwards. Materialistic Greed. Money and greed for power over those weaker than themselves. Does it make them feel good or something? They are fucking psychopathic sociopaths! They are given power and they abuse it! Then they use their power to grant them immunity from being cast down!

Materialism as a whole is a product of the Vatican's monotheistic orthodox madness known as Christianity. Not Esoteric Christianity per se.
Orthodox Islam isn't much better. Esoteric Islam seems to be largely unknown and I plan to look into it more.

Have a read of this and tell me what you think:
http://dragonrouge.net/english/Contra_3_M.pdf
It details what the Dragon Rouge has to say on the madness of Materialism. The Left Hand Path was never so concise. Dragon Rouge's philosophy blew me away! I'm in the process of joining them.

From: http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/illuminati.html#014

Edit: ignorance is the true conspiracy, always has been. Without knowing, we fall for anything!

The Argument from Ignorance and plain lies and hysteria (and others to numerous to list here) are the true conspiracies...

Although real conspiracies exist! The whole CIA thing is VERY real! Perhaps one of the VERY few that are genuine conspiracies! It was actually Exu who opened up my eyes to this! Congrats to Exu's BRILLIANT posts!

[riseaquarius]

One problem, riseaquarius...we aren't fighting the Illuminati.

Not everything is a fucking conspiracy.
No point attacking the Illuminati. They are innocent.

Yes we are, and I don't give a fuck about Weishaupt or your etymology right now.
There is a conspiracy here and I'm just calling it by it's defacto name.
If that bothers you to the point of ignoring my video entirely, then I definitely will not watch your videos or read any of your backdoor Satanic illiterature.

In case anyone missed my last post due to Horus's indignant Illuminati activism, here it is again:

According to a secret message by Britney Spears, the end is near, and it will begin as a solar event. What happens next must be seen and heard to be believed..

The video link is in my signature.

This video is terrifying as shit.
Half of you won't believe it, and as far as I know, I'm the first person to ever notice it.
I would like to know how Britney could possibly be making any money off something almost nobody recognizes, even when it's pointed out to them.

If you'd like to know more, please watch 'Illumination Through Music Part 01: Restoring Context' on my YouTube channel.
Hundreds of other artists describe this same nightmarish scenario.. and nobody sees it..

If you haven't seen it yet you should. There is a conspiracy involving December 21st.

[alephvian]

Originally Posted by riseaquarius

Yes we are, and I don't give a fuck about Weishaupt or your etymology right now.
There is a conspiracy here and I'm just calling it by it's defacto name.
If that bothers you to the point of ignoring my video entirely, then I definitely will not watch your videos or read any of your backdoor Satanic illiterature.

In case anyone missed my last post due to Horus's indignant Illuminati activism, here it is again:

If you haven't seen it yet you should. There is a conspiracy involving December 21st.

You sound like a paranoid parrot. Nothing is going to happen December 21st, absolutely nothing that is going to feed your conspiracy fetish.

Read over your posts, is the shadow that follows you on a sunny day conspiring to murder you? "it's terrifying as shit" whatever fearmongerer. There's no truth in those trying to spread fear. Inside you dwell in fear so the external force outcome is that you want to control reality with conspiracies. Britney spears is an idiot, a useful tool at best.

If you just turned off TV and not watch anything on the Internet that goes on MTV then none of this would affect you.

[riseaquarius]

You sound like a paranoid parrot. Nothing is going to happen December 21st, absolutely nothing that is going to feed your conspiracy fetish.

Just keep repeating it until everyone believes it? Is that your strategy?
I'm not offended by your primitive defense mechanism (childish name calling), but if you had bothered to check my video, you'd know I didn't 'parrot' anyone.
My only 'fetish' is exposing the various elements of this conspiracy, and its legions of mindless enablers.

Read over your posts, is the shadow that follows you on a sunny day conspiring to murder you? "it's terrifying as shit" whatever fearmongerer. There's no truth in those trying to spread fear. Inside you dwell in fear so the external force outcome is that you want to control reality with conspiracies. Britney spears is an idiot, a useful tool at best.

Am I really spreading fear or are you just frightened?
And are you familiar with the concept of awareness?
Is it possible for people to be unaware of something which is both important and frightening? Why must it be one or the other?
Do these questions even register, oh illuminated one?
I wouldn't want people calling me a fearmongerererer.

Since I wasn't even replying to you to begin with, you must have been offended by my Adam Weishaupt comment. There aren't too many reasons why someone should flip out over disrespect towards a known Satanist. Let me guess, that's disinformation too?
Will you take your mask off now or should I rip it off for you?

If you just turned off TV and not watch anything on the Internet that goes on MTV then none of this would affect you.

Funny, I had no idea MTV was playing music videos backwards to scare the shit out of people.

Avatars of famous deities won't fool too many people when you're lying, calling then names for scrutinizing your disinformation, and openly proselytizing Satanism.
You should try Kali instead.

(I just realized your current avatar Shiva is under his foot. What a coincidence...)

[valmar]

Originally Posted by riseaquarius

Just keep repeating it until everyone believes it? Is that your strategy?
I'm not offended by your primitive defense mechanism (childish name calling), but if you had bothered to check my video, you'd know I didn't 'parrot' anyone.
My only 'fetish' is exposing the various elements of this conspiracy, and its legions of mindless enablers.


Am I really spreading fear or are you just frightened?
And are you familiar with the concept of awareness?
Is it possible for people to be unaware of something which is both important and frightening? Why must it be one or the other?
Do these questions even register, oh illuminated one?
I wouldn't want people calling me a fearmongerererer.

Since I wasn't even replying to you to begin with, you must have been offended by my Adam Weishaupt comment. There aren't too many reasons why someone should flip out over disrespect towards a known Satanist. Let me guess, that's disinformation too?
Will you take your mask off now or should I rip it off for you?


Funny, I had no idea MTV was playing music videos backwards to scare the shit out of people.

Avatars of famous deities won't fool too many people when you're lying, calling then names for scrutinizing your disinformation, and openly proselytizing Satanism.
You should try Kali instead.

(I just realized your current avatar Shiva is under his foot. What a coincidence...)

Your posts sounds exactly like that of a deluded Conspiracy Nut.
Provide some concrete evidence as to why your theory should be believed. I am just sick of all the stupid, untrue claims thrown around and if you really do have useful info, then provide a good explanation (preferably in it's own thread).

Adam Weishaupt is NOT a Satanist, you idiot! How many times do I (and others) have to prove to you that he isn't! There is plenty of evidence that suggests otherwise. Say, are you a Christian? Muslim?

Satanism isn't so bad, per se. Mostly...it's just a parody of Orthodox Christianity at the least. At most, it's truly independent of it's mother religion.

I would say you are the fearmonger. If you provide a good explanation, my opinion will change. Good luck.