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Old 24-07-2012, 01:40 PM   #461
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Interesting! Have you got a reliable source for this?
He mentions it in one of his videos, so only his word.

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It still brings up the question though, if TPTB did this as a false flag operation whilst also pocketing $2.3trillion from it, wouldn't they have gone over the footage with a fine tooth comb to make sure discrepencies like this didn't come out?
I don't get what you are saying here? They needed to show planes crashing into buildings. As there were no planes they couldn't show bits of plane falling off as those bits of plane wouldn't be found, they needed to make the plane vanish into the building. Every video shows this....just some have wings missing etc. Hence why people like AJ won't talk about TV fakery & no planes as they don't want people looking at the footage, they are happy to keep people going in circles discussing nano thermite, building 7 etc. Anything to avoid the fakery aspect.

Or they could have used real planes, but that causes many headaches, what if something went wrong? What if one of the planes only clipped the WTC and crashed in Manhattan, how could they then collapse the towers?

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All you need is a website/blog and to post on one conspiracy forum. Just imagine how quickly that story would spread. When some of the 9/11 threads on here have over 20k views, it wouldn't be hard to get the word out their without using the MSM.
http://www.cluesforum.info/
http://letsrollforums.com/

Those two forums have discussed the fakery aspect in great detail, someone singing like a canary will only add fuel to their case. You appear to think that not many people are aware of the fake aspect of 9/11 and it will some kind of revelation if word gets out.

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I guess that's a matter of opinion. Personally, had one of my family members died in it, I'd find it very hard to go online and be accused of lying, being a shill, claiming my family member was fake etc...
But you'd be able to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that they existed, you'd have more than a couple of blurry and/or photoshopped photos for a start.

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I highly doubt they would think "These 3000 victims we're going to make up, I'm pretty sure no one will ever research them". Again, if this was a False Flag Op, it cost them a lot of money to set up. They wouldn't leave such a glaring hole in their story for all to see.
But if the plan was to only sell the illusion that 3000 people died, instead of murdering 3000 people, they would need to make the victims up.

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Who says it was the family that submitted the pictures? I'd imagine a lot of them were pulled from company websites etc... As the names were being released, reporters would have got the pictures from anywhere they could to be the first to publish. By Googling my name and the company I work for you get a very low resolution photo that is used on my company website. Had I been there that day, that's probably the photo they would have used. Once the photos out there, it's going to spread too. My family may upload photos of me to a blog somewhere, but as the MSM ranks so highly in Google, it's no surprise that the one the media release first would be the one that gets circulated.
Have a look at some of the memorials, some of the photos are shocking. Surely family members, over time, must have supplied better quality images of their loved ones. Some of them really are a joke

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Edit: Was any CCTV of inside the WTC ever released? (I have Googled and not come across any) I'm not sure if the CCTV would have been stored onsite or off. I'm guessing onsite so it would have been destroyed, but you would have thought they had at least one company that fed the footage to an offsite location.
I've never seen any other than the foyer footage.
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Old 24-07-2012, 02:17 PM   #462
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I'll reply to your post in detail shortly Mishy (been putting off doing my actual job too much today ).

Just thought I'd post this here in case others are interested. An account from someone that was a worker in WTC (although was off work) during the attacks.

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Old 14-08-2012, 11:55 AM   #463
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Sorry, but your lame post by a fake "workman" doesn't mean anything.

WTC was a union shop. Therefore, anyone who worked at the WTC had to be a union person. The union made a point of noting who worked at WTC. CNN911Fakes on youtube has done the research on those who possibly worked would have been involved on the day of 911. I am sure if you got in touch with CNN911Fakes on youtube, he would definitely say this person is a liar.

It has been his life's work since 911 to expose the fraud of 911.

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It still brings up the question though, if TPTB did this as a false flag operation whilst also pocketing $2.3trillion from it, wouldn't they have gone over the footage with a fine tooth comb to make sure discrepencies like this didn't come out?
The perps made a lot more than $2.3 trillion. That money just paid for the demolition and hiring all the witches who gathered in downtown Manhattan to chant as the mega ritual went on. It also paid for the hired posters on all Internet threads, all the fake videos made by editors, still camera shots and liars who pushed the story in their places of business.

Insurance fraud heist included $7.2 billion collected by Silverstein for the fake planes crashing into the Towers, $2 billion in death hoax fraud. $900 million in gold from the WTC vaults. $100 million from insurance on artworks that were evacuated from WTC before 911 and claimed as destroyed. $billions made in put options on UA & AA stock, after fake planes were said to have been involved in the 911 demolitions.

The WTC towers were gutted, prepped & planted with explosives for the PLANNED 911 demolitions. The 911 chess game of businesses put in the WTC for the 911 demolitions started in 1997 after the ritualistic murder of Princess Diana.

BTW, the 911 perps also hid the announcement of NESARA funds by making the demolitions at 9 am. The announcement for the distributions of the Prosperity Fund (NESARA) was to be made at 10 am on 911. That is $10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000 money to cover the world debt. Bush's have been stealing money from the fund for years.

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I don't get what you are saying here? They needed to show planes crashing into buildings. As there were no planes they couldn't show bits of plane falling off as those bits of plane wouldn't be found, they needed to make the plane vanish into the building. Every video shows this....just some have wings missing etc. Hence why people like AJ won't talk about TV fakery & no planes as they don't want people looking at the footage, they are happy to keep people going in circles discussing nano thermite, building 7 etc. Anything to avoid the fakery aspect.
That's what I mean though. Like the ones with wings missing. If I was going to pull of such a big false flag op, I'd make 100% sure my video footage was as good as possible and didn't leave any inaccuracies for people like us to discover.

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Or they could have used real planes, but that causes many headaches, what if something went wrong? What if one of the planes only clipped the WTC and crashed in Manhattan, how could they then collapse the towers?
But at the same time, not using planes presents its own problems. What if someone was filming that they didn't think would be? What if even one bit of footage was released that clearly showed no planes hit the towers? It just seems like a huge 'chance' to not use planes. There's too many possibilities for it to go wrong.


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But you'd be able to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that they existed, you'd have more than a couple of blurry and/or photoshopped photos for a start.
But how do we know there isn't and the family just haven't released them? Or, they have released them but as MSM sites rank so highly on all search engines, finding them would be near impossible.



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But if the plan was to only sell the illusion that 3000 people died, instead of murdering 3000 people, they would need to make the victims up.
But they must have known people would investiage them, surely? It wouldn't be hard for them to make up a fake criminal history for a couple of them. Pretend a few used to work for the government and have old ID badges etc... It just seems that if they did make the victims up, they've been unbelievably careless leaving big gaping holes in their story.


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Have a look at some of the memorials, some of the photos are shocking. Surely family members, over time, must have supplied better quality images of their loved ones. Some of them really are a joke
I agree, some of those photos are very bad.


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I've never seen any other than the foyer footage.
That's very odd as well. I can't see the CCTV footage being stored onsite only. Surely they must have had CCTV stored at a seperate location. Very intersting that they've not released any.
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Sorry, but your lame post by a fake "workman" doesn't mean anything.

WTC was a union shop. Therefore, anyone who worked at the WTC had to be a union person. The union made a point of noting who worked at WTC. CNN911Fakes on youtube has done the research on those who possibly worked would have been involved on the day of 911. I am sure if you got in touch with CNN911Fakes on youtube, he would definitely say this person is a liar.

It has been his life's work since 911 to expose the fraud of 911.
As the story most widely believed is the OS, the oman of proof is on those that have come up with another story. If you want to prove Edward Jerlin doesn't exist, I'm sure a simple freedom of information request to the court that he calimed to do jury duty at on the day of the attacks would show you whether or not he was there.
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Old 14-08-2012, 12:24 PM   #466
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[QUOTE=greencard;1060995028]As the story most widely believed is the OS, the oman of proof is on those that have come up with another story.[QUOTE]

No, the burden of proof is on you because you came us with the fake statement. Anyone can take pictures, noted to be taken by Macaluso, & pretend when he ever existed. Thousands were hired before, during & after 911 to push the FAKE STORY. The perps continue to push fake stories every week.

I will not debate with you, it is a waste of time. There were no deaths on 911. Death hoaxes have been manufactured by fridogfrihed.dk since 1992 for the FAKE WAR ON TERROR.

Anyone who 11 years after the event is still telling lies is doing it because he/she is making money by lying.

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http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/2007/07/nesara-announcement-expected-in-run-up.html
"The NESARA money was originally scheduled to be released in the year 2000, but the Bush White House and its banking and legal conspirators worldwide prevented the disbursement. And through corporate pan-global control of mainstream media outlets, nearly all knowledge of NESARA's existence was suppressed. This is now changing.

"When the NESARA global prosperity programmes are openly and publicly announced, perhaps during August or September 2012, they will permanently change human civilisation in every money-related way.

"The whole human population will benefit from NESARA. Earth is a most abundant planet. There is more than enough gold-backed human money currently in existence on Earth for each and every human being to be a GBP millionaire without debts of any kind. GBP = Great Britain Pound. NESARA is about sharing the resources of the planet around fairly. And NESARA is about putting benevolent banking systems in place worldwide to deliver this monetary fairness. No individual anywhere on Earth will be beyond the reach of the NESARA wealth redistribution programmes. And no individual or organisation anywhere on Earth will be able to stop it.

"NESARA will cancel all credit card, mortgage and other bank debt due to illegal banking and government corruption worldwide. Income tax will be abolished. A new 14% flat rate tax on non-essential new items will provide the revenue stream for national governments. There will be increased benefits for senior citizens. In the USA, there will be a return to Constitutional Law at every level of the legal system.
President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and the constitutionally illegal cabal which pulls their strings will be removed from office with immediate effect, and long before the end of their present term. So will all members of Congress and their Khazar Zionist bosses. They will be replaced with constitutionally acceptable NESARA President and Vice President Designates, thought to be Congressman Dennis Kucinich (Democrat - Ohio) and Congressman Ron Paul (Republican - Texas). There will be new Presidential and Congressional elections within 120 days of NESARA's announcement. These elections will be carefully monitored to prevent vote theft and other illegal election activities by special interest groups.

A new USA Treasury rainbow currency will come into being, backed by gold, silver, and platinum precious metals. A new USA Treasury Bank System will be initiated in alignment with Constitutional Law. The Federal Reserve Board System will be abolished. Personal financial privacy will be restored. All judges and attorneys will be retrained in Constitutional Law. All aggressive USA government military actions worldwide will cease and global peace will be established. Every American citizen over the age of 21 will receive $100,000 a month for 11 years, but the Farmers' claims will be paid first. Here, the settlements will include debt forgiveness of $300,000 (including mortgages, credit cards and loans) for each farming family. Similar reforms will take place in every country in the world. Enormous sums of money will be made available for humanitarian purposes. New hitherto suppressed technologies such as free energy devices, pollution pollution cleanup equipment and sonic healing machines will be released for the use of all.
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No, the burden of proof is on you because you came us with the fake statement. Anyone can take pictures, noted to be taken by Macaluso, & pretend when he ever existed. Thousands were hired before, during & after 911 to push the FAKE STORY. The perps continue to push fake stories every week.

I will not debate with you, it is a waste of time. There were no deaths on 911. Death hoaxes have been manufactured by fridogfrihed.dk since 1992 for the FAKE WAR ON TERROR.

Anyone who 11 years after the event is still telling lies is doing it because he/she is making money by lying.
Sorry, what statement did I make? I simply posted a link to someones account and said "Just thought I'd post this here in case others are interested. An account from someone that was a worker in WTC (although was off work) during the attacks." I didn't say he definitely worked there, I didn't say he didn't. It's just someones account of the day that I thought you guys may take an interest in.

OK if the burdon of proof is on me, then consider that link proof he existed. Unless you can prove otherwise, then we need to take it at face value. A hunch isn't good enough reason to think he's made up.

You'e already said you won't debate with me though so I guess that's the end of that conversation. It's a shame you don't feel like debating.

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The reason paid propaganda keep posting the same lies over & over is to try to keep the world in a trance to believe the 911 perps lies. It is what witches do: perform the spell over & over to try to make it stick.

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"Magic is not instantaneous, nor does it violate the laws of nature...the results of a spell must build up over a period of time until the willed desire manifests. To increase the rate of success, the Witch should never count on one performance of a spell working. The spell must be done consecutively for three, five, seven, or nine days.

[In the case of 911, witches, occultists, masons, kabbalist-zionists have been spouting the same lies over & over for 11 years, trying to make people fall into some sort of trance to believe their lies.]
11 master witches, occultists, masons, kabbalist-zionists were each in his/her assigned places by Strategic Communication Laboratories, London, for the 911 Mega Ritual: Bush, Cheney, Tenet, Bush's sorcerer aunt-Ann Cappelletti, Bill Gates, Giuliani, Condi Rice, Schwarzenegger, Silverstein, Soros & Saddam Hussein, not dead, 33 degree mason, pal of GHWB, who knows the ancient Sumerian secrets of transmuting gold into monoatomic gold for antigravity materials for space travel & DNA replenishing elixir for immortality, ORME.

I have posted many links before today pointing out fraud and lies. Long before today, I have learned that Ann Cappelletti, Bush's sorcerer aunt got the job to organize the paid Internet posters of witches & punks to post the govt lies. Most people who saw the buildings being imploded on 911 already know the truth. It is only a matter of time before all of the 911 criminals are exposed.

John/Mike (Bush witch cousins, all grandsons of Aleister Crowley) Cappelletti's demolition company got the lucrative job of prepping for the 911 demolitions. Their company gutted, prepped & planted explosives in the WTC for the 911 implosions. Their home base is in Upper Darby, PA, a short 90 mile commute to the WTC. Philadelphia Naval Business Center was still open for business in 2001 to obtain the explosive for the demo job.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/02/20/911-planesno-planes-and-video-fakery/
9/11: Planes/No Planes and “Video Fakery” by Jim Fetzer
"(1) that Flights 11 and 77 were not even scheduled to fly that day and, (2) that, according to FAA Registration records I have in hand, the planes corresponding to Flights 93 and 175 were not deregistered until 28 September 2005...“How can planes that were not in the air have crashed on 9/11?” and “How can planes that crashed on 9/11 have still been in the air four years later?” We have studies (3) by Elias Davidsson demonstrating that the government has never been able to prove that any of the alleged “hijackers” were aboard any of those planes and research (4) by A.K. Dewdney and by David Ray Griffin demonstrating that the purported phone calls from those planes were faked. And (5), as Col. George Nelson, USAF (ret.) has observed, although there are millions of uniquely identifiable components of those four planes, the government has yet to produce even one. My purpose here is not to persuade anyone to believe the 9/11 planes were phantom flights on 9/11, but simply to lay out some of the evidence that supports that conclusion"...
"The Vicsim Report" http://septemberclues.info/vicsims/9-11-9%20the%20Vicsim%20Report.pdf

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"According to the Death Master File - the official record of 90 million deceased Americans who had been issued Social Security cards since 1937 - there were 6,298 deaths recorded on [9/11] in 2001 when [an illusion was perpetrated of] terrorists [allegedly struck] the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and [faked] a plane crash in a rural area in Pennsylvania.

"But, because an average of 6,200 Americans die every day, there should have been more than 9,000 deaths recorded for Sept. 11, 2001.

"Conspicuous by their absence in the federal file are many prominent victims of the attacks, including New York City Fire Chief Peter Ganci Jr., Fire Department Chaplain Mychal Judge and businessmen Daniel Lewin, founder of Akamai Technologies, and Thomas Burnett Jr., chief operating officer of Thoratec Corp."
The whole 911 story was fabricated & pushed by witches, masons, kabbalist-zionists & masons in the U.S. govt, local, state & federal, w FDNY & NYPD. The truth is going to come out soon. But, in the mean time, paid propaganda posters by the lying U.S. govt. continue to push lies.

The towers were gutted, prepped & planted with explosieves for the 911 am planned demolitions by John/Mike (Bush witch cousins) Cappelletti's demolition company. Planes were faked as part of massive insurance fraud of real estate-$7.2 billion; stock market insider trading put options of AA & UA stock in the billions; art market insurance fraud of evacuated artworks, $100 million & death hoax fraud, $2 billion. WTC towers planned demolitions were covered by illusions of planes for MASSIVE INSURANCE FRAUD.

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If you post the names of those you say died on 911, we can look them up on the Social Security Master Death list.
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Thanks for posting those links 07August. I'm going to go and read them now

Name some names? I will just randomly pick a few out of the 'official list' if that's OK?

Do you have a link to the list that you would check them out on so I can do some research on them myself too? If you're going to be researching them, it only seems fair I help too.


Some names to research:

Timothy Maude
John P O'reilly
Andrew Alameno
Jennifer Mazzotta
Walter Travers

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You want the links, they have already been posted by me. All you have to do is google my logon. Anyone can find anything that I have already posted by searching for my logon.
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You want the links, they have already been posted by me. All you have to do is google my logon. Anyone can find anything that I have already posted by searching for my logon.
You specifically said if I post some names you'll check them up on the "Social Security Master Death list". I've looked through lots of your posts, I've seen no link to this.

You don't seem very forthcoming with evidence. If it's so easy to prove the above people are fake, why aren't you jumping at the opportunity?

I'll copy the names again in case you missed them:

Timothy Maude
John P O'reilly
Andrew Alameno
Jennifer Mazzotta
Walter Travers

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I would have thought common sense would tell people why the names of the people who died on 9/11 are not on the Death Index. In order for a death certificate to be issued there has to be a body. Very few bodies were recovered and in some cases it took years to establish that certain people were dead so Death Certificates couldn't be issued.

But maybe it's different in the US.
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It's 7 years with no contact before a death certificate is issued in the States as far as I know.




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"According to the Death Master File - the official record of 90 million deceased Americans who had been issued Social Security cards since 1937 - there were 6,298 deaths recorded on [9/11] in 2001 when [an illusion was perpetrated of] terrorists [allegedly struck] the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and [faked] a plane crash in a rural area in Pennsylvania.

"But, because an average of 6,200 Americans die every day, there should have been more than 9,000 deaths recorded for Sept. 11, 2001.


I've just seen this quote. You are aware that we're talking averages here? So yes on 9/11 there may have been below average deaths compared to normal, that doesn't mean anything though. That's the thing with averages, it doesn't mean 6200 people die every day. I can see why less people died that day. A lot of new york workers would have been sent home, a lot of people would have stayed home watching the TV. There would have been far less people travelling that day. It makes sense that there would have been a below average number of deaths compared to normal.
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You paid propaganda posters don't read comments, you just post what you can so that you can turn in your list of posts for pay at the end of the day. I never thought you would read my post. I suspect you have no idea where or even when 911 happened. You just happened to find a job posting crap for easy money. What I do know is that every time I post something, it gets logged as a post that can be found in a google search.

If you want me to give you evidence, then pay me. Give me access to FBI, CIA files, governement accounting files, local, state & federal accounts, sub-contracting contracts, personnel, independent contractor files, NYPD, FDNY files, dates worked & retirements. Give me an expense account and a car w a gas/fuel paid account. I will do the work the Dept of Justice hasn't done. Since I am not paid, I will not give you any evidence. You won't read it anyway. As I mentioned before, you can find my past posts on DI forums easiy.

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2011/07/fake-deaths-on-9-11.html


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FAKE DEATHS ON 9 11

"...nearly 3,000 victims of the 9/11 attacks weren't reported in the Social Security Administration’s official list of deceased Americans.

"Nearly 3000 victims of 9/11 don't show up as dead.

"Jude Larson and his wife Natalie, who were reported to have died on 9/11 in one of the aircraft that hit the World Trade Center, are found to be still alive. (American Journalism Review, 11/2001)

"'The names of about 40 people listed on the toll of World Trade Center dead are being removed because authorities cannot confirm their deaths or even their existences, a city official said.' (9 - 11 DEATH TOLL DROPS AS FAKE NAMES FOUND)

"Sanae Zahani, a 20-year-old woman from Morocco, gained national attention for the search for her sister who, so she said, had been working in a bond-trading firm inside the World Trade Center.

"She even told her story on the Rosie O'Donnell show.

"'But Zahani never had a sister who lived in New York. Zahani disappeared when this awkward flaw in her story was discovered.' (Phony 9/11 Deaths)

"The 9/11 Memorials listing the alleged victims are essentially computer databases of fictitious identities. (http://www.septemberclues.info/vicsims_photo-analyses.htm)
THE PASSENGERS ON THE 9 11 FLIGHTS ARE LINKED TO THE PENTAGON

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If a person was on a plane, it could easily be determined by the flight manifest. Since the flight manifests for 911 have never been officially found, mainly because 11 & 77 didn't fly on 911. Flts 93 & 175 were over other cities at the time of the WTC implosions. AFA no people being in the buildings on 911, the floors were gutted along with the walls & ceilings. It is hard to stand in a building with no floors.

The simulated victims of the govt planned & executed 911 mega ritual were computer generated. Fridogfrihed.dk began manufacturing dead people for the fake war on terror in 1992.

I asked for the name of your family member for me to look up.

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http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/02/passengers-on-9-11-flights-linked-to.html

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PASSENGERS ON 9 11 FLIGHTS LINKED TO PENTAGON

911 was Operation Northwoods revamped to fit the television public.
[Indent]Reportedly, 75% of the passengers on the 9 11 flights had connections with the Pentagon. (military connections)

"In 1962, the Pentagon's Operation Northwoods envisaged the US military deliberately crashing a plane and then pretending that this was done by the Cubans. (aangirfan: 9 11 REVEALED - The Daily Mail)

"With Operation Northwoods, the Pentagon plan was to send up two airliners painted and numbered exactly the same, one from a civil airport in America, the other from a secret military airbase nearby.

"The one from the airport would have military personnel on board who had checked in as ordinary passengers under false names.

"The one from the airbase would be a drone, a remote-controlled unmanned aircraft.

"Somewhere along their joint flight paths, the passenger-carrying plane would drop below radar height and return to the airbase to unloading its passengers in secret.

"Meanwhile, the drone would be exploded and the world would be told that a plane load of blameless American passengers had been deliberately killed by terrorists."



"On 8 February 2010, http://www.voltairenet.org/en reveals that a surprising number of the passengers on Flight AA77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon, had military connections

"Voltairenet reproduces this extract from Strategie per una guerra mondiale, a book by Pino Cabras:

"On board Flight 77 there was a high density of passengers who worked at classified positions in the Defense sector: between 16 and 21 persons out of a total of 58 passengers.

"The were aerospace engineers. One of them, Mr. Yamnicky, was a longtime CIA operative that worked for the Veridian Corp. as an aeropace engineer.

"Another passenger on the list, Mr. Caswell, led a team of about one hundred scientists for the US Navy.

"Others worked for Boeing and Raytheon in El Segundo, California, on a project dubbed "Black Hawk".

"We present here some information regarding these noteworthy Flight 77 passengers, who belong to the lists which were obtained by scanning the obituary columns on the Web or in the newspaper articles published in the days following the attacks.
1. John D. Yamnicky Sr., 71, from Waldorf (Maryland), was on a business trip on American Airlines Flight 77. He was a retired naval aviator, who retired as Captain in 1979 when he joined Veridian Corp., a Virginia-based military contractor, where he worked on fighter aircraft and air-to-air missile programmes...

2. William E. Caswell, born in Boston (Massachusetts) in 1947, was a third-generation physicist whose work at the Navy was so classified that his family knew very little about what he did each day...

3. and 4. Wilson Falor "Bud" Flagg, 63, born in Millwood (Virginia), was a Rear Admiral in the US Navy and a pilot for American Airlines until his retirement...

His wife Darleen...

5. Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verde (California). He was director of programme management for Raytheon Electronics Warfare...

6. Bryan C. Jack, 48, from Alexandria (Virginia), was responsible for crunching America’s defense budget...

7. Keller, Chandler ‘Chad’ Raymond... He was an eminent engineer specialized in propulsion technologies and project manager at Boeing Satellite Systems...

8. Dong Lee, 48, from Leesburg (Virginia), worked for Boeing Co. as an engineer.

9. Ruben Ornedo, 39, from Los Angeles (California), was a propulsion engineer at the Boeing Comany in El Segundo (California).

10. Robert Penninger, 63, from Poway (California), worked as an electrical engineer for BAE systems, a Defense Department supplier.

11. and 12. Robert R. Ploger III, 59, from Annandale (Virginia), was a software architect at Lockheed Martin Corp., and his wife Zandra Cooper.

13. John Sammartino, 37, from Annandale (Virginia), was technical manager at XonTech Inc. in Arlington (Virginia), a research and development firm linked to the military sector and specialized in defense missiles and sensor technologies...

14. Leonard Taylor, 44, was technical group manager at XonTech Inc...

15. Vicky Yancey, 43, from Springfield (Virginia)... a former naval electronics technician, worked for the Vredenburg company, a Defense Department supplier...

16. Charles F. Burlingame III, 52, graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy in 1971 ; he was flight commander of AA Flight 77...

17. Barbara K. Olson...

18. Karen Kincaid, 40, from Wahington D.C... Kincaid was training to take part in the upcoming Marine Corps Marathon scheduled for October 28.

19. Steven ‘Jake’ Jacoby, 43, was a vice president and chief operating officer of a paging and wireless messaging service called Metrocall Inc., based in Alexandria (Virginia)...[/I]
It was Metrocall that supplied the equipment used by emergency responders who were on the scene in New York and Washington on 9/11 ...

"It should be pointed out that the same disproportionate number of passengers with military connections can also be observed in respect of the other 9/11 flights.

"Three Raytheon employees were on [allegedly on] flight AA11 [a flight that did not fly on 911 01 along with a non flying Flt 77 on 911] that crashed into the North Tower of the World Trade Center.

"Raytheon is one of the principal defense suppliers, and a pillar of the Global Hawk remote control technologies, highly cherished by the Pentagon.


"As we have just seen, the main actors involved in these programmes as well as other aerospace experts were officially declared dead on September 11, 2001...

"Surprising number of passengers on Flight AA77 that allegedly hit the Pentagon had military connections."
The kickoff for the plans for INSURANCE FRAUD of 911 started with the ritualistic murder of Princess Diana, August 30, 1997.

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Old 16-08-2012, 05:02 PM   #479
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Default Fake Photos made for 911 FAKE VICTIMS

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"...photos of the ‘victims’...government created fictitious identities for these people…Did 3,000 people really die that day?"

“HONOR ELIZABETH WAINIO”
“Elizabeth Wainio” – (“Honor Elizabeth Wainio” depending on which website you go on) – She is probably the most well known victim of 9/11. Many memorials ask for donations and fund-raising events for the family but the problem is she never existed! She is listed as being on Flight 93 but the government tried to ‘create’ her by placing a fake cell phone call to her step mother minutes before the plane crashed! Every time I’m on a plane, my cell phone has no service what so ever.. How could she ever make a phone call? The plane didn’t have any kind of telephone system on it.. Now if you keep reading below you’ll see how the same ‘technique’ is used in all of the victims photos…"


"If you search the Internet, you won’t find many photos of Liz. Even her family has limited photos of her? Now that doesn’t seem right… The couple photos that are out there; she has the same face/expression in all of the photos..In this next photo you can see why they cropped the image..."



Now here is even another image but again she looks like a frozen doll… Is she a computer-generated entity?



"Now this maybe the weirdest part about this conspiracy..They are trying to make money off this fake terrorist attack.. Just like the big insurance claim was taken out on the buildings days before they came crashing to the ground.. I’m sure the brainwashed citizens who believe this bogus story; are still donating…."
911 was a big day for INSURANCE FRAUD: real estate fraud, $7.2 billion, put options on UA & AA stock, in $billions, $100 million on evacuated artworks which were reported destroyed on 911, $6 billion in death hoax fraud, Let's not forget the $900 million in gold ingots from bank vaults in the basement of the WTC.
Luciferians, occultists, kabbalist-zionists, masons & witches were in his/her assigned places by Strategic Communication Laboratories, London. 11 masters involved in the 911 mega ritual are: Bush, Cheney, Tenet, Bush's sorcerer aunt-Ann Cappelletti, Bill Gates, Giuliani, Condi Rice, Schwarzenegger, Silverstein, Soros & Saddam Hussein, not dead, 33 degree mason, pal of GHWB, who knows the ancient Sumerian secrets of transmuting gold into mono-atomic gold (ORME) for anti-gravity space travel & DNA replenishing elixir for immortality. Witches burn gold & paper currency in Satanic rituals for demonic power. Then, put the ashes or mono-atomic gold (ORME) in their drinks or food to consume it for demonic power.
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