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Old 14-07-2012, 04:43 PM   #61
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I read this thread yesterday and thought it was very interesting and today i remembered something..

Several years back I stumbled on some information about Jerusalem linked to the planet Venus. http://en.allexperts.com/q/Esoteric-...ent-cities.htm



I don't know if you want to fit this in with your findings earthenigma.

The planet Venus is uninhabitable.





Interesting.
However, in the Hebrew there is no alphabetical letter `J` - so the name Jerusalem isnt correct anyway.

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You forgot one major point: Jerusalem is not the original name. It is the anglicized form of the Hebrew name Yerushalaim.

Yeru comes from the Semitic root Y.R.H, which means "found, establish" (nothing to do with Jericho, in which the root is connected to Yareach: moon).
The tradtional (Jewish) explanation states that the Shalaim part is connected to Shalom, peace, so Yerushalaim: founded (with/ by) peace.
Modern linguists explain the Shalaim part as a variant of the Canaanite god Shalem (Jerusalem was a Jebusite city prior to its conquest by the Israelites, and there was a great temple for Shalem there), so Yerushalaim: founded by Shalem.

Anyway, Arabic has nothing to do with it, the name is obviously Canaanite.
Remember that Hebrew is a Canaanite dialect, so you may also say it's Hebrew.
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Old 14-07-2012, 05:31 PM   #62
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Interesting.
However, in the Hebrew there is no alphabetical letter `J` - so the name Jerusalem isnt correct anyway.

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You forgot one major point: Jerusalem is not the original name. It is the anglicized form of the Hebrew name Yerushalaim.

Yeru comes from the Semitic root Y.R.H, which means "found, establish" (nothing to do with Jericho, in which the root is connected to Yareach: moon).
The tradtional (Jewish) explanation states that the Shalaim part is connected to Shalom, peace, so Yerushalaim: founded (with/ by) peace.
Modern linguists explain the Shalaim part as a variant of the Canaanite god Shalem (Jerusalem was a Jebusite city prior to its conquest by the Israelites, and there was a great temple for Shalem there), so Yerushalaim: founded by Shalem.

Anyway, Arabic has nothing to do with it, the name is obviously Canaanite.
Remember that Hebrew is a Canaanite dialect, so you may also say it's Hebrew.
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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...5051709AA2iJ0K
Yes I saw that and similar while I was looking for the Venus/Jerusalem connection but wasn't going to post it as it didn't fit in with what I was saying.

There was a thread connected to this view several years back, way past 500 I'm afraid so I can't link to it.

It says 'esoteric' on the link not just some random explanation but thanks anyway.
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Old 14-07-2012, 06:16 PM   #63
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Yes I saw that and similar while I was looking for the Venus/Jerusalem connection but wasn't going to post it as it didn't fit in with what I was saying.

There was a thread connected to this view several years back, way past 500 I'm afraid so I can't link to it.

It says 'esoteric' on the link not just some random explanation but thanks anyway.







I would have thought if the person who posted that info is a Jewish Hebrew speaker (as claimed) then he /she would know what they`re talking about.

We have to be very careful what we believe on the internet because sadly much of the new age doctorines are false.

I can assure you that the name Yerushalaim is certainly more likely to be correct, because I myself have questioned many things once I discovered that there was no letter `J` in the Hebrew alphabet.
As a believer in the Bible, and because of there being no`J` it led me to realise that the name Jesus wasnt accurate, nor in the Bible were names like John, Job, Jacob ect correct. To that end I did my own research and most of those names all start with the letter `Y`
The names are anglicized.

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Old 14-07-2012, 06:19 PM   #64
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From Late Latin Ierusalem, Hierusalem, from Latin Hierosolyma, from Ancient Greek Ἰερουσαλήμ (Ierousalēm), from Hebrew יְרוּשָׁלַיִם (Yerushalayim), from Western Semitic Urušalimmi (attested in Ancient Egyptian), compound of Semitic *uru 'house, town' and *salim either 'peace' or 'Shalim, Canaanite goddess of twilight'.
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I would have thought if the person who posted that info is a Jewish Hebrew speaker (as claimed) then he /she would know what they`re talking about.

We have to be very careful what we believe on the internet because sadly much of the new age doctorines are false.

I can assure you that the name Yerushalaim is certainly more likely to be correct, because I myself have questioned many things once I discovered that there was no letter `J` in the Hebrew alphabet.
As a believer in the Bible, and because of there being no`J` it led me to realise that the name Jesus wasnt accurate, nor in the Bible were names like John, Job, Jacob ect correct. To that end I did my own research and most of those names all start with the letter `Y`
The names are anglicized.
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The tradtional (Jewish) explanation states that the Shalaim part is connected to Shalom, peace, so Yerushalaim: founded (with/ by) peace.
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It is said that the first known name for the city of Jerusalem was Urushalim, “Uru’ founded by “Shalem”, the name of the Canaanite god of Venus in its evening setting, but Solomon’s Temple was facing in the opposite direction, towards Venus rising in its role as morning star. We can be certain that King Solomon’s Temple was built by Canaanites who were known to worship Venus, also we can understand that Solomon had no tradition of his own to give him the knowledge of how to build a temple that was properly constructed to interface with the heavens. However it is perplexing that these Venus worshipping Phoenicians were allowed to build the house of God.



Cyclical appearances of the planet Venus, in a pre-dawn rising against a particular part of the sky were clearly of great importance in the early period of Jewish Kings as the Bible tells us. Saul, David and Solomon, all ruled for forty years, a full Venusian cycle. It seems that Freemasonic ritual aligns with the astral cultic practices of the royal lineage of Jerusalem, the city of Venus.
Maybe we are both on the right track?
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:01 PM   #66
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http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/07...e-in-tel-aviv/

"A government office in the Israeli regime has been set on fire in solidarity with a demonstrator who recently self-immolated to protest against the Israeli economic policies.


The office, which is located in the city of Ramat Gan in the Tel Aviv district, was set on fire on Monday to express support for Moshe Silman, who is now fighting for his life due to serious burns.

On Sunday, Israeli protesters took to the streets in Tel Aviv to support Silman.

Israeli President Shimon Peres said in a statement on the same day that Silman’s condition was “extremely serious.”
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Old 16-07-2012, 12:12 PM   #67
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Hebrew language has no vowels, like a type of computer language! (?)

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Old 16-07-2012, 03:15 PM   #68
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I’ve read a lot about the Olympics, the theories and everything from floods and false flags to aliens have a lot of plausibility behind them. They’re great theories, all of them. There are so many people willing to read between the lines and investigate deeper than what appears on the surface and for that, we should all be commended. We don’t just make an argument without some evidence. We then debate it, which is the point of this and many forums.

The 1948 UK Olympics being the same year that Israel declared its independence, coupled with the new Jerusalem and the Zion logo for the 2012 UK Olympics is very intriguing. The weird one-eyed Alien mascots are very odd. The amount of police, army and security, coupled with the surface to air missiles is just bizarre. Noah’s Arc on the Thames and the freak weather across the world gets the mind going. The companies, organisations and ‘dignitaries’ relocating/locating themselves outside of central London makes me wonder. The Shard (the cock) and the giant womb/boob, which is the O2 Arena are fascinating.

When we tie it all together I’m not sure what to think. The things that we cannot debate are the amount of security forces in London for the coming weeks, the plans for the opening ceremony and the Zion logo. I think the whole Olympics is yet another giant ritual that 90% of the population will just think is something truly awe-inspiring and amazing. The Israel President is not attending the opening ceremony, a ceremony that is inspired by the hymn ‘Jerusalem.’ The final two words of Jerusalem are ‘Till we have built Jerusalem In England’s green and pleasant land.’ To quote the London 2012 website, the “Stadium will be transformed into the British countryside for opening scene ‘Green and Pleasant.’” Obvious connection, no debate needed. The ceremony will include real farmyard animals. The Noah’s Arc sailing down the Thames during the Olympics and will also carry real animals. Noah is a Jewish character – another Jewish connection.

“Her Majesty the Queen will be greeted by Jacques Rogge,” Jacques, a man who refuses to acknowledge the Israel athletes who were murdered in 1972, which has infuriated many in the Jewish community.

The Olympics is about the fall of Israel.

The conspiracy theories are deflecting attention away from where our eyes should be focussing on – Israel. The Olympics is hailing in the New Jerusalem. So something must be about to happen in old Jerusalem. Out with the old, in with the new. The ceremony is about discarding Israel and pronouncing England, particularly London, as the New Jerusalem. The Olympics is fulfilling a prophesy, a prophesy in the form of a hymn. “Was Jerusalem builded here, among those dark satanic mills?” Yes, it’s about to be – satanic symbols are everywhere, the shard being the new one. Bring me my bow of burning gold, my arrows, my spear, my chariot of fire (bring in the army, the police, the missile batteries). “Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand” – (we are prepared) “Till we have built Jerusalem in England’s green and pleasant land.” The green and pleasant land is the setting - it is the early stages of the Olympic ceremony – it is London. Jerusalem will be built in this, on this. It will be built here when Old Jerusalem / Israel falls.

Now, read the order of play for the music in the Olympic ceremony here: http://m.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news...-playlist.html.

The order is interesting – it tells a very interesting story, it tells the story of our past, our present and our future. It’s a long list but I’ll talk a few tiny chunks. This is how I decipher it in small snippets:

Pre-Olympics: “Big Ben Chimes, God Save the Queen and then… London Calling”…

Olympics: “Jerusalem, Nimrod and the arrival of the Queen of Sheba” … “Dambusters March, 'Music for the Royal Fireworks, James Bond Theme” (This is the start of a Middle East War and Britain getting involved).

Post Olympics: “Blue Monday, Relax, Back To Life” (For most people the Olympics ends and it is ‘blue’ and ‘back to life.’)

Then… the war spreads across the world… The world war begins….

Late 2012: “Uprising, Random Antics, Pass Out” … “Galvanize, Take Me Out, I Predict a Riot” …

Millions die but the end comes and ‘heroes’ are born….

“The End, Hey Jude, Heroes” ...

It all ends with “The Liberty Bell, Absolute Beginners.”

The one world government brings ‘liberty’ to the world. It is the beginning of the new world order and we are left in a world where we feel like absolute beginners.

So for now, we need to watch Old Jerusalem. We need to watch Israel over the next two weeks. On Sky News today (Sky News – a media agency that doesn’t bother too much with proper news) says: “Hundreds of tonnes of Syria's stockpile of deadly nerve gas could fall into the hands of terrorist groups if the regime of Bashar al Assad falls apart amid widening concerns that Israel could go to war to try to stop this 'Doomsday threat'.”

It continues: “The deadly chemical weapons have been successfully 'weaponised'. This means that conventional artillery and missile warheads have been fitted with delivery systems for VX gas. These include Scud B, C and D missiles.”

“These rockets are capable of hitting any location inside Israel and, Sky sources said, they are capable of spreading VX gas in bomblets similar to those seen in cluster munitions.”

“Syria has backed the Lebanese Islamist movement Hezbollah for decades. In 2006, Israel launched a bloody invasion of Lebanon in response to Hezbollah rocket attacks.”

“Today, intelligence sources say that they conservatively estimate that Hezbollah has a stockpile of more than 40,000 new missiles.”

“Israel is deeply concerned that Assad may deliberately give Hezbollah chemical weapons - or that they could end up in the hands of other terror groups. In either case, this could lead to a regional war, Danny Yatom, the former head of Mossad warned.”

My gut feeling is that NOTHING destructive will happen in England or London, not yet anyway, not until the new world war spreads at least. For now London is simply the stage, the setting, to welcome the NEW Jerusalem. It is a massive ceremony. The armed forces are part of the ceremony, The Shard is the ceremony, the Olympic ceremony is the ceremony! Noah’s Arc is even here to show the world that London is the NEW Jerusalem.

These shadowy characters use symbolism in everything. Everything is symbolic. ALL of our attention now should be on Israel, Syria, Iran, Hezbollah. The Olympics is purposefully deflecting our attention – we’re all falling for it! Let us watch the Middle East with acute attention for the next two weeks – tell us what you see in the news. I suspect that before the Olympic ceremony closes, old Jerusalem won’t be here anymore. The reason the President of Israel is not coming to the games is that he will be the ultimate sacrifice. The music in the Olympic ceremony tells us the story that is unfolding and what is to come. It tells of what we should expect. Old Jerusalem is about to go, the New Jerusalem stage is set. The world will be plunged into chaos. Focus our energy on this and we will see the bigger picture.

For now…

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountain green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among those dark satanic mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land.

We have set the stage... Watch the illuminati plan unfold. Don't be distracted by Aliens and terrorism. It's a smoke screen for the ceremony we are all about to witness.
If my memory serves me right, i remember reading here or somewhere else, that when Tony Blair signs into the British embassy in the USA he signs his address as New Jerusalem
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Apologies for my ignorance, I`m not into horse racing.
However, one of the races was still called The DERBY - and what`s more those children`s deaths made no logical sense, if we are to believe what many were claiming regards the Phillpots & benefits.
Did anyone take a good look at their obvious distress at that news conference ? It didnt look put on to me. As the saying goes : facts can be stranger than fiction LOL.
However, as I said, this does imho merit its own thread.
As I said the Derby is a horse race which was inaugurated in 1780. It takes place in early June and the queen always attends. Have you never heard of Derby Day? It has absolutely nothing to do with the town of Derby but was named after the Earl of Derby, whose family seat is at Knowsley Hall in Merseyside.

The fact that the dreadful deaths of those children makes no sense has nothing to do with horse racing and the presence of the queen. In my opinion if the parents set the fire they did not expect it to take hold so fiercely but merely meant it to damage the house. They had been asking for a bigger house for some time and no doubt the fire seemed a good idea. Their distress was genuine since they did not intend for the fire to do so much damage.

Can we let this subject go now?
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I have a horrible feeling that the new conflict will kick off this Saturday... Why?

1) Olympic ceremony on Friday, July 28th marking London as the "New Jerusalem."

2) July 29th (9th Av) in history:
a) Known as the Day of Mourning to Jewish people.
b) The Exodus Generation were condemned to die in the desert 1312 BC (3324 years ago).
c) Both the first and second Holy Temples which stood in Jerusalem were destroyed on this date (9th Av): the First Temple by the Babylonians in the year 423 BC, and the second by the Romans in 69 AD.

Is the third temple about to go?? Is Old Jerusalem going to be attacked this Saturday? Who knows - I thought the history was interesting.
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I have a horrible feeling that the new conflict will kick off this Saturday... Why?

1) Olympic ceremony on Friday, July 28th marking London as the "New Jerusalem."

2) July 29th (9th Av) in history:
a) Known as the Day of Mourning to Jewish people.
b) The Exodus Generation were condemned to die in the desert 1312 BC (3324 years ago).
c) Both the first and second Holy Temples which stood in Jerusalem were destroyed on this date (9th Av): the First Temple by the Babylonians in the year 423 BC, and the second by the Romans in 69 AD.

Is the third temple about to go?? Is Old Jerusalem going to be attacked this Saturday? Who knows - I thought the history was interesting.




It is interesting what you say.
I have posted on a different thread about it.
More info on the topic you raise below :-

The Three Weeks and Tisha B’Av - Destruction and Renewal
http://www.chabad.org/library/articl...hree-Weeks.htm


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really, yeah post A>S>A>P please be interested in that. I need to do some more research as this is the first time I have heard of this.



I seem to recall reading that Robert Hooke (Hooke's Law) did much of the work for St Paul's.. I also recall reading that Wren designed a dome structure because he was inspired by domes on Islamic buildings such as Turkey's Sofia Mosque. I also read that Wren's desire to have a domed structure was refused 2 or 3 times, and that he essentially played a waiting game to get his domed design agreed.. I recall reading that Wren waited for the 'panel' (who repeatedly thwarted his idea) to die... and so it took 20 or so years to get the idea to the building stage if I recall correctly...

If I recall correctly!

The dome is definitely illuminati, it's in the corporation of london's financial district, by the tate and other illuminati controlled entities..
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Why is the Shard a satanic building?

Is it because of its pyramidal shape or is it because it is cut in half at the top?

Is Renzo Piano an Illuminati?

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really, yeah post A>S>A>P please be interested in that. I need to do some more research as this is the first time I have heard of this.



Sorry I have only just found this but better late than never! It's very interesting!
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Great video thanks, more dot joining!

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Yes I thought so, I would like to read more about it, Are there any threads on this subject do you know? I did do a search but didn't find much!
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