Why Islam Is Only True Religion From God

[adam 7]

Originally Posted by ciko

shia are not muslims, so dont bring them here.

Nice way to talk about your bro's in Islam

Whether its shia, sunni, the 40,000 denoms of Christianity, Judaism, etc, you all worship the same God. Its the same set of stories, based on the same Jewish mythology, the Old Testament. Based in turn on Babylonian and Egyptian mythologies.

[ciko]

Originally Posted by adam 7

Nice way to talk about your bro's in Islam

Whether its shia, sunni, the 40,000 denoms of Christianity, Judaism, etc, you all worship the same God. Its the same set of stories, based on the same Jewish mythology, the Old Testament. Based in turn on Babylonian and Egyptian mythologies.

no they are not my brothers, they are my enemies and enemies of Islam.

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[roman piso]

Originally Posted by ciko

[B]If quran is man-made then explain to me how it is possible for humans to create such book, and they where unlettered, and did not have paper to write it down in 6th century

The Egyptian invented the Papyrus, which the Greek later adopted, and Roman and Jews adopted from the Greeks.

Book of the Dead = 1200BC
Book of Lliad = 9-800BC
Book of Genesis = 500BC
Books of Gospels = 100AD
Book of Quran = 600AD



When you go down the List above, they copied form one another ....

The creation of the Quran was sponsored by the Romans , whom had libraries of Books to Plagiarize, in which the stupid Christians later destroyed

[ciko]

adam 7, almost everything you say about islam is wrong, i dont know where you get your false information, probably anti-islam site, wich deceive your with their lies. it is like you want to be deceived, you enjoy to be deceived from anti-islam people with their false information

[ciko]

Originally Posted by roman piso

The Egyptian invented the Papyrus, which the Greek later adopted, and Roman and Jews adopted from the Greeks.

Book of the Dead = 1200BC
Book of Lliad = 9-800BC
Book of Genesis = 500BC
Books of Gospels = 100AD
Book of Quran = 600AD


When you go down the List above, they copied form one another ....

The creation of the Quran was sponsored by the Romans , whom had libraries of Books to Plagiarize

The Egyptian invented the Papyrus, which the Greek later adopted, and Roman and Jews adopted from the Greeks

but arabs did not have paper to write down quran, and most of them where unlettered people, including Muhammed himself.

When you go down the List above, they copied form one another ....

if quran copies from bible, when there was no arabic bible when muhammed lived? bible was translated into arabic after the death of muhammed.

and if we analyze if it was indeed copy of bible then why do we not have same errors in quran , scientific and contradictions like bible have.

even archology confirms quran and disprove bible

Haman was counseler of Pharao during Moses time according to quran and archeology, while in bible Haman was minister of Persian King Xerex II

or Bible say that pharaos where during Joseph time, but there were no pharaos during Josephs time, and quran confirms that, Quran calls King not pharao , that was during old Kingdom, but in new kingdom Pharao is mentioned.

These stuff were discovered in heiroglyphs, wich no human could understand during time of revelation of Quran.

That is proof that quran is not copied from Bible beacuse it would contain same scientific archological errors like bible.

that is why you are wrong and dont know what you are talking about.

[ciko]

Originally Posted by roman piso

The creation of the Quran was sponsored by the Romans , whom had libraries of Books to Plagiarize, in which the stupid Christians later destroyed

your idioticy is amazing

If quran was sponsored by Romans, and why would Muhammed go with his army to Tabuk to fight Roman army?

Only roman who was present in mekka was a friend of Muhammed who converted to islam.

You are just liying to people and yourself here, it is very easy for me to debunk your lies beacuse i know history of islam very well , that is why you can not fool me , but you can fool people who dont know islam like i do.


If roman sponsored quran, then why would Muhammed send letter to Roman king Heraclius

The wording of the Prophet’s letters was similar. The text of the letter sent to Heraclius was as follows:

“In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful. This letter is from Muhammad the slave of Allah and his Apostle to Heraclius, the ruler of the Byzantines. Peace be upon him who follows the right path. Furthermore, I invite you to Islam and if you become a Muslim you will be safe, and Allah will double your reward, and if you reject this invitation of Islam you will be committing a sin by misguiding your subjects. And I recite to you Allah's statement:

“O People of the Scriptures! Come to a word common to you and us that we worship none but Allah and that we associate nothing in worship with Him, and that none of us shall take others as Lords beside Allah. Then if they turn away, say: Bear witness that we are Muslims (those who have surrendered to Allah). (Qur’an: Surah 3, Ayah 64).”

All the Prophet's letters were stamped with the words: “Muhammad Rasul-ullah" (Muhammad the Messenger of Allah). Three of the Prophet’s letters have been preserved.

[roman piso]

Originally Posted by ciko

but arabs did not have paper to write down quran, and most of them where unlettered people, including Muhammed himself.

Muhammad never existed ... of course since the Quran is written like Shit, the translations can be manipulated to suite the Agena of Saudi Arabia ... Think about it .. If one Quote in the Quran was responsible for the dead of millions of people like all quotes, and it turns out that Quote was mistranslated, which thus could of prevented those deaths... playing with fucking fire..

if quran copies from bible, when there was no arabic bible when muhammed lived? bible was translated into arabic after the death of muhammed.

The one reason why the Quran author was unlettered, could be that the Author was not really an Arab..

Haman was counseler of Pharao during Moses time according to quran and archeology, while in bible Haman was minister of Persian King Xerex II

or Bible say that pharaos where during Joseph time, but there were no pharaos during Josephs time, and quran confirms that, Quran calls King not pharao , that was during old Kingdom, but in new kingdom Pharao is mentioned.

Joseph was based on Pharoah Merenptah-NebsenedJaashefit , nothing in the Bible dates further then 1300BC ...
the Bible is dates to a minimum of 6-500BC ... The Land of Canaan was OWNED by Egyptian Pharaohs, whom where the Allah of the time.

The Legend of Moses is based on Sargon II around 722 BC, along with Perseus.. This was an Era where Egyptians was split up into smaller Kingdoms.

Thanks to "Tacitus" ... A LITERATE HISTORIAN .. thanks "Tacitus" (Peace upon him) for solving this mystery 1900 Years ago...

[m6000000]

European Scientist converts to Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IspK651RpY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IspK651RpY&feature=related

There is an Arabic translations intervals.


Welcome to the truth, welcome to Islam

[adam 7]

Originally Posted by ciko

adam 7, almost everything you say about islam is wrong, i dont know where you get your false information, probably anti-islam site, wich deceive your with their lies

Hi ciko, I am not anti-islam or anti-muslim. I dont believe in the war on terror and am skeptical of mainstream media.

I am ex-christian, who believes that religion is not healthy psychologically and it is liberating to free your mind from the self imposed sheep pen of religious delusions.

I do not wish to discrimate against any specific belief system. I note that you hold quite negative views of Christians, Jews and even bizarrely.. your Shia Muslim bros. Which is odd as you all basically believe in the same set of myths.

[ciko]

Originally Posted by roman piso

Muhammad never existed ... of course since the Quran is written like Shit, the translations can be manipulated to suite the Agena of Saudi Arabia ... Think about it .. If one Quote in the Quran was responsible for the dead of millions of people like all quotes, and it turns out that Quote was mistranslated, which thus could of prevented those deaths... playing with fucking fire..



The one reason why the Quran author was unlettered, could be that the Author was not really an Arab..





Joseph was based on Pharoah Merenptah-NebsenedJaashefit , nothing in the Bible dates further then 1300BC ...
the Bible is dates to a minimum of 6-500BC ... The Land of Canaan was OWNED by Egyptian Pharaohs, whom where the Allah of the time.

The Legend of Moses is based on Sargon II around 722 BC, along with Perseus.. This was an Era where Egyptians was split up into smaller Kingdoms.

Thanks to "Tacitus" ... A LITERATE HISTORIAN .. thanks "Tacitus" (Peace upon him) for solving this mystery 1900 Years ago...

this is garbage, not even worth commenting this.

but i can ask you only one question

Did you ever read whole quran?

[ciko]

Originally Posted by adam 7

Hi ciko, I am not anti-islam or anti-muslim. I dont believe in the war on terror and am skeptical of mainstream media.

I am ex-christian, who believes that religion is not healthy psychologically and it is liberating to free your mind from the self imposed sheep pen of religious delusions.

I do not wish to discrimate against any specific belief system. I note that you hold quite negative views of Christians, Jews and even bizarrely.. your Shia Muslim bros. Which is odd as you all basically believe in the same set of myths.

Hi ciko, I am not anti-islam or anti-muslim.

no but you are coping material from anti islam sites, answering-islam is one of them. the problem with that sit is that it use false information about islam, ok, i could understand if someone attack islam on the true fact. if there was verse in quran where it says "Kill all unbelievers" then it would be justified to attack islam and quran.

I am ex-christian, who believes that religion is not healthy psychologically and it is liberating to free your mind from the self imposed sheep pen of religious delusions.

problem with you us that you attack islam trough christianity, that is like beating a dead horse man.

i thought you were a logical person in the begining but it seems that you dont have logic in your arguments....

I note that you hold quite negative views of Christians, Jews and even bizarrely.. your Shia Muslim bros. Which is odd as you all basically believe in the same set of myths

how many times i need to say it, they are not my brothers, but real enemies of islam.

nor do i believe in any myth. almost everything i believe can be explained scientifically and scientific evidence and logical evidence for all my beliefs.

but myth, you dont have any evidence nor scientific backup.

[sandwarrior]

Could ciko or m600000 please tell me who the "we" are in the following passage?

O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

http://quran.com/33/50

[ciko]

Originally Posted by sandwarrior

Could ciko or m600000 please tell me who the "we" are in the following passage?



http://quran.com/33/50

answer

We - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
We - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A common example is the royal we (Pluralis Majestatis), which is a nosism employed by a person of high office, such as a monarch, earl or pope.

Majestic plural

The majestic plural (pluralis maiestatis/majestatis in Latin, literally, "the plural of majesty," maiestatis being in the genitive case), is the use of a plural pronoun to refer to a single person holding a high office, such as a monarch, bishop, or pope. It is also called the royal pronoun, the royal "we" or the Victorian "we". The more general word for the use of we to refer to oneself is nosism, from the Latin nos.[1] It is most commonly used to denote the excellence, power, and dignity of the person that speaks or writes.

In pluralis maiestatis the speaker refers to themself using a grammatical number other than the singular (i.e., in plural or, where attested, dual form). For example, the Basic Law of the Sultanate of Oman opens thus:


On the Issue of the Basic Law of the State We, Qaboos bin Said, Sultan of Oman...[2]

[m6000000]

Originally Posted by sandwarrior

Could ciko or m600000 please tell me who the "we" are in the following passage?



http://quran.com/33/50

I agree with Ciko and the Quran is full of similar examples, here is one:

Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian. 15:9

and another:
We have created you, so why do you not believe?
56:57

and another:
Have you seen that which you emit? Is it you who creates it, or are We the Creator?
56:59-60


This is normal in Arabic, I sometimes use it my self, like when talking to a women, I would say "do yous need help" as a respect.


Thanks for asking

[ciko]

why do we need to be muslims(both me and you all here on this forum), what is the point with islam, what do we gain by following islam???


This life is a test, a death is coming to all of us



then test is over, and when we get results from the test, if God is statisfied with our deeds, then we can hope for Paradise

and if God is not statisfied, poor we, no chance to go back to earth to make better deeds and hell will be our home.

I have been in war, i know what is fear when enemy soldiers capture you, oh my God, if knew that feeling you would all fall down in prostration to God immidiatelly to protect you from that fear feeling wich cause pain in whole body.

but what will happen to unbelievers on the day of Judgment

God says in quran:

40:18 Warn them [Prophet] of the ever-approaching Day, when hearts are at throats, choking them(beacuse of great fear). The evildoer will have no friends, nor any intercessor to be heeded.

18:49 And the Book shall be set in place; and thou wilt see the sinners fearful at what is in it, and saying, 'Alas for us! How is it with this Book, that it leaves nothing behind, small or great, but it has numbered it?' They will find everything they ever did laid in front of them, and thy Lord shall not wrong anyone.

18:29 Say(to them Muhammed), ‘Now the truth has come from your Lord: let those who wish to believe in it do so, and let those who wish to reject it do so.’ We have prepared a Fire for the wrongdoers that will envelop them from all sides.

[ugo_da_lugo]

When a Muslim man dies he get 72 whores in heaven...........what do the women get? Ohhhhhhh I get it - they get to clean and wash the whores in preparation for their orgiastic parties............ I thought they had a purpose in heaven...........ha ha ha

[roman piso]

Originally Posted by ugo_da_lugo

When a Muslim man dies he get 72 whores in heaven...........what do the women get? Ohhhhhhh I get it - they get to clean and wash the whores in preparation for their orgiastic parties............ I thought they had a purpose in heaven...........ha ha ha

Sex ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sex ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sex ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In anthropology and demography, the human sex ratio is the sex ratio for Homo sapiens (i.e., the ratio of males to females in a population). Like most sexual species, the sex ratio is approximately 1:1. In humans the secondary sex ratio (i.e., at birth) is commonly assumed to be 105 boys to 100 girls


So each person in the world became a Muslim, and the Sex Ratio
is 1:1 , then it is impossible to have a 1:72 Ratio between man and Women in Heaven..

[roman piso]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/0...8640R320120713

(Reuters) - The United States has branded Syria's (MUSLIMS) leaders murderers after an attack on a village by President Bashar al-Assad's (MUSLIMS) troops left dozens dead, but there was no break in the deadlock among world powers over how to bring about an end to the bloodshed.

More than 200 Syrians, mostly civilians, were massacred in Tremseh, near Hama, when it was bombarded by helicopter gunships and tanks and then stormed by militiamen who carried out execution-style killings, opposition activists said.

[exu156]

Islamic Theologian's Theory: It's Likely the Prophet Muhammad Never Existed

MÜNSTER, Germany -- Muhammad Sven Kalisch, a Muslim convert and Germany's first professor of Islamic theology, fasts during the Muslim holy month, doesn't like to shake hands with Muslim women and has spent years studying Islamic scripture. Islam, he says, guides his life.

So it came as something of a surprise when Prof. Kalisch announced the fruit of his theological research. His conclusion: The Prophet Muhammad probably never existed.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122669909279629451.html


Questioning of Prophet's existence stirs outcry

Muslim academic says research leads him to believe Muhammad is a mythical figure

Muhammad Sven Kalisch, 42, the chair of Islamic Studies at the University of Muenster and whose duties include training teachers for the rising number of Muslim students in German high schools, has created a furor by stating that in all probability Muhammad was a mythical creation.

http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/557645

[roman piso]

Prophet Muhammad is a fictional Author .. along with Mark-Matthew-Luke-John.. These are smoke and Mirrors created by Rome .. whom create these Religions in absolute secret....


http://www.angelfire.com/wi/famtree/sec-roy.html

The ancient royals were what we would call "god makers" and religion creators.
They were big on making sure that what they said in their works were ‘true’
... "Gods" were the higher and mysterious power that gave orders to the masses instructing
them to accept one person or other and/or their family members as the ones who would be
"in charge" and be the leaders of the masses ... in order to maintain/retain their power
and control over the masses.