Mass arrests to begin 4th July....

[toallofyou]

Originally Posted by bluegrazz

-Next time guys, PLEASE use some critical thinking and basic investigation skills. Things like this "incident" and people believing folks like Wilcock, Drake, "Dragon Lady (LOL) and Fulford is discrediting us all.

Truth. Somebody said a few pages ago that even if the arrests didn't happen then putting the idea of it out there was a step in the right direction, but if anything it's a step backwards. Disinfo is never a good thing, and fantasies like this just make people more complacent and encourage waiting for somebody else to fix the world. The whole new age "love and light" thing is all well and good, but when it advocates sitting back and letting the military sort everything out it's not hard to think that perhaps there's some kind of agenda behind the movement as a whole, besides selling books to hippies.

[noncooperation]

Where actually is the proof they have lied about the arrests etc.?

Could everything not just be down to a time delay?

(I have been away, I may have missed something)

[h2pogo]

Originally Posted by valens

I'm not blaiming him for anything, I'm suggesting he take responsibility for buying the lie rather than blaming other people for telling it.

Exactly...Of all the millions of lies we have to put up with this was the best one i ever heard..

In a possitive sense of course

[fork]

I honestly despair for the people that believe this bullshit.
You either submit to the tyranny or join the likes of drake. A Walter Mitty character who's only intent is to bolster his own weak and feeble ego.

Wake up for fuck sake. There is no alien federation waiting to save you. All there is are huge corporations that are in cahoots with corrupt governments that are controlled by a world wide banking cartel.

Do you get it?

[ritchs]

Originally Posted by frase

Fuck Drake....Fuck Wilcock.
Cunts.

The credibility factor is 0%
The incredibility factor is 200%

They are officially persona non grata in conspiracy forums

[realy]

Originally Posted by ritchs

The credibility factor is 0%
The incredibility factor is 200%

They are officially persona non grata in conspiracy forums

[littleweed]

Originally Posted by fork

There is no alien federation waiting to save you. All there is are huge corporations that are in cahoots with corrupt governments that are controlled by a world wide banking cartel.

^^^ this.

It's all so very obvious, in your face, every day reality.

[muscltory]

I can understand why Mr Icke wrote about mass arrests in his newsletter. Everyone is so busy trying to prove Drake or Wilcock wrong. I had the utmost respect for Mr Icke until his remark about Sheldan Nidle. People have been hard on Mr Icke for his beliefs, making rude comments about him and such, well now Mr Icke has turned into the same behavior, by making false statements about Mr NIdle.
It seems most people's opinions on this subject are immediate. Well nothing else to write about this week, let's make fun of people's beliefs.
I love the jokes about being saved by Heaven, people from other planets, or the Ascended Masters. We have to fix our own miscreations.
No one of higher intellegence is saying they are here to "save" you.
The only ones promoting the saviour jokes seem to be the most uninformed.
Maybe you should listen to what people say before you comment on it, but then dark entities have always just flat out lied about the Ascended Masters.
I see it as pointless to sit around lying about Beings most cannot even comprehend.

The only thing that matters is what we want we get. If we want arrests they will happen. If we want to be ripped off by banks everyday we will keep doing business with them, if we want another war it will happen immediatley.
I just saw a very nice video today of Mr Icke talking about moving conciousness around. Is is a shame he cannot see mass arrests can eaily be created by our minds, I guess he would rather tell us what is not possible.

[dude111]

Originally Posted by apollo_gnomon

Yet another prediction comes and goes. Anyone keeping score?

Someone should ask this idiot what he thinks now that 7/5 has come and NOTHING HAPPENS what he thinks??

[noncooperation]

Originally Posted by muscltory

I can understand why Mr Icke wrote about mass arrests in his newsletter. Everyone is so busy trying to prove Drake or Wilcock wrong. I had the utmost respect for Mr Icke until his remark about Sheldan Nidle. People have been hard on Mr Icke for his beliefs, making rude comments about him and such, well now Mr Icke has turned into the same behavior, by making false statements about Mr NIdle.
It seems most people's opinions on this subject are immediate. Well nothing else to write about this week, let's make fun of people's beliefs.
I love the jokes about being saved by Heaven, people from other planets, or the Ascended Masters. We have to fix our own miscreations.
No one of higher intellegence is saying they are here to "save" you.
The only ones promoting the saviour jokes seem to be the most uninformed.
Maybe you should listen to what people say before you comment on it, but then dark entities have always just flat out lied about the Ascended Masters.
I see it as pointless to sit around lying about Beings most cannot even comprehend.

The only thing that matters is what we want we get. If we want arrests they will happen. If we want to be ripped off by banks everyday we will keep doing business with them, if we want another war it will happen immediatley.
I just saw a very nice video today of Mr Icke talking about moving conciousness around. Is is a shame he cannot see mass arrests can eaily be created by our minds, I guess he would rather tell us what is not possible.

Good post and you made some points that actually put some people in a corner. (I personally believe something has got to Icke - it's the only way to explain some of his behaviour).

[nocternald]

Originally Posted by muscltory

I can understand why Mr Icke wrote about mass arrests in his newsletter. Everyone is so busy trying to prove Drake or Wilcock wrong. I had the utmost respect for Mr Icke until his remark about Sheldan Nidle. People have been hard on Mr Icke for his beliefs, making rude comments about him and such, well now Mr Icke has turned into the same behavior, by making false statements about Mr NIdle.
It seems most people's opinions on this subject are immediate. Well nothing else to write about this week, let's make fun of people's beliefs.
I love the jokes about being saved by Heaven, people from other planets, or the Ascended Masters. We have to fix our own miscreations.
No one of higher intellegence is saying they are here to "save" you.
The only ones promoting the saviour jokes seem to be the most uninformed.
Maybe you should listen to what people say before you comment on it, but then dark entities have always just flat out lied about the Ascended Masters.
I see it as pointless to sit around lying about Beings most cannot even comprehend.

I think you have misunderstood this mass arrests movement.

Drake, fulford and wilcock are intentionally trying to mislead people with their beliefs.

This is very different to people who have beliefs and are harming nobody and simply look to advise overs, not these people are deliberately trying to con you.

Their aint no fucking delay! If they was even a 0.001% chance of a delay they should of mentioned this and not given these rigid and absolute dates.

I think David feels afraid the entire 'truth' movement will be ridiculed because of a few fantasists! If this was real, it would had been explained in a far more balanced and adaptable manner, taking into account all the risks and possible issues involved.

The only thing that matters is what we want we get. If we want arrests they will happen. If we want to be ripped off by banks everyday we will keep doing business with them, if we want another war it will happen immediatley.
I just saw a very nice video today of Mr Icke talking about moving conciousness around. Is is a shame he cannot see mass arrests can eaily be created by our minds, I guess he would rather tell us what is not possible.

We, the people need to make the change, yes, however David i feel has a right to ridicules these guys by the way they have projected this intended project

This movement, it is not for us the people to stand up against these people it is seemingly to make these people feel important and to boost their own self esteem, it's as if they long to feel important, its as if they long for people to hang on their words, this is a very idealistic fantasy these men have created, especially Drake who talks, and talks, and talks, and talks.

These people have continually lied and spread, well bullshit, and not even an apology.

[bluegrazz]

Damn- They are arresting the WRONG people. http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/in..._for_jack.html

There goes MY VOTE for Sheriff this year =(

-And YES the Fireworks were the best ever (Thanks Drake...errr....) but its only because my State has stopped regulating Fireworks for 72 hours around any Holiday meaning 6 inch Mortars were being shot all over the city. Yes, NO REGULATION on Fireworks for citizens.

http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/in...law_turne.html

So while everyone is in a tizzy about our "Freedoms" being taken (oooohhhhhh its SOOO Bad) and awaiting a savior- The people of Michigan have been doing something (kinda )

-We have Medical Cannabis now
-We have very liberal CCW laws (no Felony and you can carry a concealed Pistol)
-Property taxes (In many Counties) have FINALLY been reassessed to reflect lower home prices saving some folks thousands.
-No regulation on Fireworks when last year you would go to JAIL and be FINED for anything that goes BOOM!
-No Motorcycle Helmet law anymore . YAY!!!!!
-The liightbulb "law" has been repealed- Michigan is telling the Feds to get fucked. We will be the only place in the western WORLD manufacturing Incandescent Lightbulbs and selling them- I actually take some credit for the "right to light" law as I petitioned for this YAY me.

http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/in...ation_pas.html

-All this CHANGE has happened in the last few years (much of this happened THIS YEAR)

Now. For those asking "what did YOU do"- Well, I did a little bit to change things which really make MY life better. I didnt lie about Space Alien Ninjas and tell everyone to sit on their ass and WAIT.

I feel much more Free already.

SO. Any updates? This is the third time "mass arrests" will start and the only one locally who was nabbed was my Candadite for Sheriff who was going to disband undercover drug operations and make our County "look the other way" on Vice Crime.

Please tell the Aliens to arrest that asshole Shirkey and Walburg (I HATE them)-

[bluegrazz]

BUMP-

This shit isn't going to go away. Wilcock, Drake and Fulford (among others) have set dates, deadlines and lies everywhere and are profiting on this.

Any update?

I sense this being "forgotten about" until the next time one of these clowns says something and the SAME people will latch on and spread the disinformation.

We NEED answers. A mass arrest and "green light" was given on June 27th and was supposed to take place within 72 hours. Whats the word?

[farros]

I know Fulford has lost the plot if he believes an army of martial artists from around the world will be the warriors of light to take down the orcs of mordor. Drake Im not sure about, havent really checked him out, seems like he could be some random bloke with an active imagination and too much time on his hands.

Wilcock though should be forgiven, he has a potent message of non-violence, understanding and forgivness and has a lot to share if he steers clear of politics (not his strength) and sticks to spirituality and self healing. Wilcock is more of a self-help, motivational guru than he is an alt. researcher imo. He's just a little sidetracked and should not be treated as a fraud. He's stronger than Icke in many ways, and delivers information without the bitterness that Icke does. Icke's interview policy is terrible (ask a question, get an hour long answer) Icke needs to learn to shut the hell up, we've heard it all before mate. Learn to respect the presence of other people. Wilcock's defense at Icke's recent attack just shows he could teach Icke a thing or two about processing negative energy with detachment and maturity.

[bluegrazz]

Originally Posted by farros

I know Fulford has lost the plot if he believes an army of martial artists from around the world will be the warriors of light to take down the orcs of mordor. Drake Im not sure about, havent really checked him out, seems like he could be some random bloke with an active imagination and too much time on his hands.

Wilcock though should be forgiven, he has a potent message of non-violence, understanding and forgivness and has a lot to share if he steers clear of politics (not his strength) and sticks to spirituality and self healing. Wilcock is more of a self-help, motivational guru than he is an alt. researcher imo. He's just a little sidetracked and should not be treated as a fraud. He's stronger than Icke in many ways, and delivers information without the bitterness that Icke does. Icke's interview policy is terrible (ask a question, get an hour long answer) Icke needs to learn to shut the hell up, we've heard it all before mate. Learn to respect the presence of other people. Wilcock's defense at Icke's recent attack just shows he could teach Icke a thing or two about processing negative energy with detachment and maturity.

Why should Wilcock get a pass- Because of his message? You do realize he makes a living from this "message" and has been wrong time and time again.

He claims to Channel "RA" and be the reincarnation of Edward Caycee , he claims "inside" information and yet is wrong time and time again.

Wilcock is worse than the fucking weatherman and the gullible are paying his bills.

Wilcock said he "checked Drake" out with his "insiders" and that Drake was the "real deal."

EDIT: ALL THESE GUYS and anyone involved in or with "Project Camelot/avalon" is a fraud. They are all liars who "back each others stories up" to appear credible...Like "My inside sources say the same...Blah...blah..."

[ar20]

Originally Posted by bluegrazz

Why should Wilcock get a pass- Because of his message? You do realize he makes a living from this "message" and has been wrong time and time again.

He claims to Channel "RA" and be the reincarnation of Edward Caycee , he claims "inside" information and yet is wrong time and time again.

Wilcock is worse than the fucking weatherman and the gullible are paying his bills.

Wilcock said he "checked Drake" out with his "insiders" and that Drake was the "real deal."

EDIT: ALL THESE GUYS and anyone involved in or with "Project Camelot/avalon" is a fraud. They are all liars who "back each others stories up" to appear credible...Like "My inside sources say the same...Blah...blah..."

What fucking money are you people talking about? What BILLS?

Every thing I've ever read or had from Wilcock has been free! I don't even have to pay a subscription for "special content".

God damnit. You're recognisable as some kind of OCD agent or something, if it's not Alex Jones you're bashing it's these guys. Get a grip.

[justin_pushka]

Aparently according to Wilcock on 21st dec 2012 the sun is gonna grow so big its outer self is gonna be where the earth is but he said dont worry we are all gonna adapt!! I mean there were ridiculous lies before this mass arrest pinochio tale Im surprised anyone is even debating this stuff.

[farros]

Originally Posted by bluegrazz

Why should Wilcock get a pass- Because of his message? You do realize he makes a living from this "message" and has been wrong time and time again.

Wrong. His information on the source field is bang on, Icke's material on the same subject is paltry in comparrison. Wilcock's knowledge of existing science supporting a singular universal consciousness is vast. Read his source field book and articles not related to hokey tips from unnamed insiders.

Originally Posted by bluegrazz

He claims to Channel "RA" and be the reincarnation of Edward Caycee , he claims "inside" information and yet is wrong time and time again.

More people need to be as bold as Wilcock in being both a rational academic and intuitive psychic. Its the division of left/right brain understanding which keeps mankind in the dark. Wilcock is boldy fusing those hemispheres in his approach. Thats a good, refreshing thing. As Bruce Lee said, too much study makes you mechanical, too much spontenaeity makes you sloppy, we need a fusion of both. Richard Dawkins is a perfect example of what science becomes when you ignore the right hemisphere for pure logic.

Originally Posted by bluegrazz

Wilcock is worse than the fucking weatherman and the gullible are paying his bills.

Then its their own fault. Wilcock presents the information as he beleives and understands it. He's not lying, but that doesn't mean he's not desperate. Its the claims he's a shill/fraud I have a problem with. He has a genuine, open heart. That alone is virtue, and the fact people dont recognise it raises questions about the alt. research community in general. Its all about love right?

Originally Posted by bluegrazz

Wilcock said he "checked Drake" out with his "insiders" and that Drake was the "real deal."

True, too much talk of 'insiders' is really beginning to grate. I really wish he would stick to what he's good at and turn his back on all these second rate nutjobs he puts so much credibility into. But that I suspect is a weakness of his overly trusting, good hearted nature.

[bluegrazz]

Originally Posted by farros

Wrong. His information on the source field is bang on, Icke's material on the same subject is paltry in comparrison. Wilcock's knowledge of existing science supporting a singular universal consciousness is vast. Read his source field book and articles not related to hokey tips from unnamed insiders.



More people need to be as bold as Wilcock in being both a rational academic and intuitive psychic. Its the division of left/right brain understanding which keeps mankind in the dark. Wilcock is boldy fusing those hemispheres in his approach. Thats a good, refreshing thing. As Bruce Lee said, too much study makes you mechanical, too much spontenaeity makes you sloppy, we need a fusion of both. Richard Hawkins is a perfect example of what science becomes when you ignore the right hemisphere for pure logic.



Then its their own fault. Wilcock presents the information as he beleives and understands it. He's not lying, but that doesn't mean he's not desperate. Its the claims he's a shill/fraud I have a problem with. He has a genuine, open heart. That alone is virtue.



True, too much talk of 'insiders' is really beginning to grate. I really wish he would stick to what he's good at and turn his back on all these second rate nutjobs he puts so much credibility into. But that I suspect is a weakness of his overly trusting, good hearted nature.

Dude, have you ever heard his interview when he had a "death threat?"- If you listen to that (or the "RA" changelings) and still cannot see he is a liar...Well then...

And what has he been right about besides phiulisophical "singularity" new age bullshit.

What? Mass Arrests? Disclosure? Aliens on spaceships protecting him for telling us about all the Gold?

To another poster-

What Money? OMG. Need I spell it out. Google (or Startpage) is your friend. He makes a damn fine living charging for everything from Conferences to Live Streams... Whats his day job? Anyone????

[farros]

Originally Posted by bluegrazz

Dude, have you ever heard his interview when he had a "death threat?"- If you listen to that (or the "RA" changelings) and still cannot see he is a liar...Well then...

Do you know what it takes for a grown man to cry live on air? Its takes a lot of courage. Those RA channelings were made when he was a relative nobody, if using RA as an anchor helped him connect to his own higher self then so be it. The law of one books are a big part of his work and are a must read if you havent read them.

Originally Posted by bluegrazz

And what has he been right about besides phiulisophical "singularity" new age bullshit.

You're on a David Icke website, according to his wogan interview the east coast should now be underwater. Its not about the details but about the manner in whice theyre spoken. Wilcock spoke highly of Obama 3 years ago, but now admitted he made a mistake. This shows great integrity. He carries himself as an honest man. Ignore the details, these are the qualities we should judge a man. Would Icke admit he was wrong about something? Fuck would he.

Originally Posted by bluegrazz

What? Mass Arrests? Disclosure? Aliens on spaceships protecting him for telling us about all the Gold?

It's all an investigation in progress, take what you will from it. If a few failed predictions convince you he's a fraud then you're selling yourself short on some valuable insights.