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Old 25-06-2012, 10:14 PM   #1
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Default Syria within Int'l Law in shooting down Turkey Jet

...when the shooting down of the Turkish Phantom jet fighter was perfectly legitimate under international law and UN guidelines on the rules of engagement

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UK media, NATO, UN hype up emotions on Turkish incident
Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:20AM GMT


Any unauthorized incursion into national airspace by a foreign aircraft--or "aerial intrusion"--would thus violate customary sovereignty and the Chicago Convention. The affected State would then have the legal right to respond by...even shooting it down.”
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What we are looking at right now is clearly a possible “False Flag” incident to justify an action against Syria when the shooting down of the Turkish Air Force Phantom jet fighter was perfectly legitimate under international law and UN guidelines on the rules of engagement.


The BBC carried the following headline in its biased coverage of this incident when it said:

“Turkey calls NATO meeting on warplane downed by Syria - Turkey has called a meeting of NATO member states to discuss its response to the shooting down of one of its warplanes by Syrian forces on Friday.
Ankara has invoked Article 4 of NATO charter, under which consultations can be requested when an ally feels their security is threatened, officials say.
Earlier, Turkey's foreign minister said the F-4 Phantom was in international airspace when it was shot down.”



I find this entire episode truly getting very much out of control with even the Turkish Government now changing their story since the incident on Friday and even in this same BBC article one can read Turkey´s Foreign Ministry stating: “It knew the coordinates of the jet, which was in Syrian territorial waters at a depth of 1,300m (4,265ft), but has not yet found it”...So, why the hype and why is this escalating into a possible armed conflict between NATO and Syria, and why has the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon today expressed “his deep concern” about the incident.

Clearly the scene is almost set for action against Syria that believe it or not was planned almost 20 years ago and has nothing to do with the current situation and clearly shows that the UK, US, France and Germany are hell bent into forcing yet another Libya style regime change all in the name of misinformation and whom are clearly arming, funding and assisting the rebel army in Syria.

Did you read about the mass arrest of German arms smugglers in the western media which was published elsewhere and said that over 40 German citizens had been arrested while attempting to smuggle arms and ammunitions from international waters on shore inside Syria. The arrest took place over two weeks ago.

I continue to ask when is this world going to wake up and see this stand-off for what it really is...a master plan by the New World Order to take out many Islamic countries that are not user friendly towards the west or countries that do not have the western fraudulent banking system in situ or who do not give lucrative oil and gas contracts to western countries...that is the true state of affairs!!

The Turkish Government promised that it will be strong, decisive and legitimate, and that it will share all the information it has with the public. My thoughts on that are are they prepared to give the Latitude and Longitude of the actual point of engagement which obviously will clearly show that the aircraft concerned was deep inside Syrian Territorial Waters on a low high speed run.

I will at this stage prove that what happened on Friday was perfectly legitimate, especially when this aircraft was flying towards the Syrian coast and was engaged by the Syrian Air Defence System well with the 12 nautical mile territorial waters of Syria...here are the ground rules as per the Chicago Convention:

“The principles of sovereignty and national airspace confirmed by the Chicago Convention, a foreign aircraft may lawfully enter another country's airspace only with that State's authorization. Any unauthorized incursion into national airspace by a foreign aircraft--or "aerial intrusion"--would thus violate customary sovereignty and the Chicago Convention. The affected State would then have the legal right to respond by intercepting the offending aircraft and turning it away; forcing it to land at a designated airfield; impounding the aircraft if it lands; or even shooting it down.
Because of the potential security threat that trespassing military aircraft represent to the territorial sovereign, international legal standards for State responses to aerial intrusions treat civil and military aircraft differently, imposing a much lower threshold for the use of force without warning against military aircraft that intrude into the territory of another State.”



I was patiently waiting for the British Government to give some opinion on this Turkish incident and at last the Independent Newspaper ran the following headlines stating that our dear Foreign Secretary William Hague today condemned Syria for the shooting down of a Turkish fighter jet and went on to say:

“Mr. Hague said the ‘outrageous’ act underlined the need for Bashar Assad's regime to go.
‘I am gravely concerned by the Syrian regime's action in shooting down a Turkish military plane on June 22,’ Mr. Hague said in a statement.
‘When I spoke to Turkish Foreign Minister (Ahmet) Davutoglu on 23 June, he told me that the plane had been shot down without warning.
‘This outrageous act underlines how far beyond accepted behavior the Syrian regime has put itself and I condemn it wholeheartedly.
‘My thoughts and sympathies are with the families and friends of the missing Turkish pilots. I have made clear to Foreign Minister Davutoglu the UK's strong support for the Turkish government at this difficult time’”



Do you really believe that Hague has any regard for the family and friends of the downed crew...how very hypocritical and two faced!!

Once again one can see that our own Foreign Minister is clearly not in tune with international law when it comes to airspace incursions and only seeks a regime change in Syria at whatever the cost...note the comment that Assad must go!!

It was the final part of the Independent´s report that caused me deep concern when it said:

"The Assad regime should not make the mistake of believing that it can act with impunity. It will be held to account for its behavior. The UK stands ready to pursue robust action at the United Nations Security Council.”


One can only hope that once again Russia and China will veto any possible action. However, we should be extremely cautious of possible action by NATO outside of the UN arena based on its policy that “An attack on one is an attack on all” and considering the NATO is the military arm of the New World Order one could see it taking matters into its own hands which it has done many times before.

As I said before, this is no Libya by comparison as the overall result could lead to a major conflict or even WW3 with Russia, China and Iran standing firmly shoulder to shoulder with Syria.

One can clearly see that any provocation will be fully encouraged by the Zionist controlled New World Order who also happen to control the politics and finances of the west and most of their leaders who pledge their allegiance to Israel rather than to their own country!!

The NATO meeting on Tuesday is likely to result in some very strong exchanges and could well push the UN into yet another urgent Security Council Meeting and with the UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon being totally behind this scam one could possible see a “No fly Zone” with unlimited action coming into fruition.

One rather funny comment I have left till last with the following:

Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc said on Saturday a jet that was shot down by Syria a day earlier was not a warplane but a reconnaissance aircraft...


I can assure him it was no executive jet and was clearly a Turkish jet fighter no matter what role it happened to be playing at the time!!

You the British public must decide who is right and who is wrong but before making such a decision one must again look at the Chicago Convention and clearly see that what happened on Friday was well within International Law.

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Old 25-06-2012, 10:19 PM   #2
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of course they are. And for all the shills who were saying that planes cross territories all the time, well that may be true. But add the fact that Turkey is supporting and harbrouring rebels who want to overthrown the Syrian government, and NATO is openly threatening Syria, especially with airstrikes, Syria must be on a level of alert that is nothing similar to nations at peace who have planes cross each others territory. Also the planes were flying very low to the ground, which means they were intentionally trying to elude detection.
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of course they are. And for all the shills who were saying that planes cross territories all the time, well that may be true. But add the fact that Turkey is supporting and harbrouring rebels who want to overthrown the Syrian government, and NATO is openly threatening Syria, especially with airstrikes, Syria must be on a level of alert that is nothing similar to nations at peace who have planes cross each others territory. Also the planes were flying very low to the ground, which means they were intentionally trying to elude detection.
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they were well within Syrian airspace
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Old 25-06-2012, 11:44 PM   #4
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Not only that, but the F-4 Phantom that was shoot down is an antique from the 60's that should be in an air museum somewhere.

It's like Turkey deliberately sent these old clunker planes into Syrian airspace for the sole purpose of having them shot down and provoking a response.
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