NATO preparing vast disinformation campaign

[dolores1]

Originally Posted by resistance

They're also using a lot of filthy lies in the media don't forget! I know symbolism and subliminal programmig is very real, but I personally think the majority of perception managment is being achieved by orwellian distortion of words and language. Especially when they want us to go to war!


Everything is being turned on it's head by the careful use of words, lies are being perceived as 'truth', and speaking the truth is frowned upon and will likely get you ostracised today. It's quite something how speaking the truth is slowly but surely becoming 'hate speech'.

Lies, deceit and the propaganda led MSM!

[tinyint]

Syria: Gearing up for battle along the Turkish border (Op-Ed)

The Syrian Air Force is preparing bombing raids as part of their fight against insurgents and terrorists north of Aleppo. A look at home-made problems and terror networking darkens the picture, and the right strategy appears to still be out of reach.

Consultant and peace activist Christoph R. Hörstel told RT that his information “is directly obtained from Syrian security personnel of various origins personally taking part in battles and other operations, and/or close relatives of such personnel – some are even well-known people.

“The information reaches me through a partner in Turkey. I counter-check all information obtained this way as best as possible under the circumstances,” Hörstel said.

He gives an outline of the military’s activities from Syria.

These days, the Syrian Army is busy preparing for the prolonged fighting to prevent the establishment of a war zone from the northwestern town of Hafeh, to Hassakeh in the northeast. As one of the first targets, the areas around Aleppo are under scrutiny, involving a huge military deployment. More military operations are due in Idlib and Hafeh. Kurdish volunteers, who until now have not responded to rebel advances, are being weaponized – and thus internally upgraded in status – by the government east of Hassakeh for boarder guarding; southern borders are being mined, and a buffer zone has been established inside Lebanon to keep Syria trouble-free at least in part; coastal areas are now fully under control, say official sources – but how correct that is will soon be clear.

At the moment, for once, insurgents and terrorists are facing supply shortages, as they've lost too many strongholds and weapon stockpiles since last week. Communications networks were destroyed, while others were limited in range, and surveillance is now tracking most of the contacts.

This is the time to look at the reasons the insurgence manages to survive. What we see in Syria shows several signs of a bloody version of the "Occupy” movement. The rightful demands of ordinary Syrians were exploited by foreign countries and their “black ops” specialists – and that is why and how some civil disobedience in March last year has turned into violent clashes. The people’s demands were as simple as they were justified: to be counted as respected citizens when appealing to the courts, to stop the growing wealth imbalance, take care of unemployment; freedom of speech and more say in politics. The system moved, but it did too little and too late, leaving out the taboo topics corruption and oppression.

It was these grave mistakes that allowed foreign agents the space they needed to hire militants, fake demonstrators and real anarchists, then arm them and furnish them with high-tech communication systems, and train them to set up the orchestrating mechanisms in international politics and media.

In Syria, many people, including officials, are now dreaming of reforms to be practically carried out by a new class of young, eager bureaucrats, who stand in the first line of contact, whenever citizens turn to the administration. This would render Syria impermeable to the "foreign intrusion" of the kind the country has been facing for more than a year. And the citizens who demand affection from the bureaucracy now – they face delays, inactivity and even fear in the bureaucrats' decisions, because any decision carries risks – and at present, risks are not en vogue in Syria. Never were, actually. And that applies to many newly installed high-ups as well.

During this week’s Homs-Khaldiyeh-Rastan operations, security forces landed an unexpected catch: due to a lack of convenience, all captured suspected terrorists were put into one detention center in Homs. At that point, one of the suspects quarreled and kicked another terrorist while a third one tried to separate the two. The Syrian prison ward, alerted by the unexpectedly serious brawl among prisoners who were picked up in different towns, decided to interrogate all three of them.

The result was astonishing for Syrian officials and a big blow to Syria’s “Mukhabarat”, the secret service: all three are Libyans, two of them originating from the eastern Libyan coastal town of Derna, the third from Tobruk. The man who was attacked is named Salaf, his attacker Momin, the go-between Dirham. Momin accused Salaf of causing the death of his brother, who was trained in improvised explosives, during a Damascus car bombing.

Salaf was released from Guantanamo after signing a contract with a private US security service, due to a Homeland 2008 Program; Salaf received his first training in the US, then arrived in Tunisia in 2010, where his education was finalized and put to service by a retired Egyptian colonel.

Momin was the coordinator of a "prison evacuation" scam plus a "Lampedusa transfer" operation, which was set up to plant potential al-Qaeda operatives into Europe, after the so-called Arab Spring in Tunisia. Momin acquired an interesting travel history, eventually reaching France via Italy without any passport or money, getting himself arrested there and sent to Turkey courtesy of French security.

Dirham was in charge of financial affairs, called "cellular havala:" in this system, money is transferred by cell phone MMS, showing picture and passport number of a recipient, facilitating the trafficking of refugees on a "special care list" – mainly Pakistanis, Afghanis and Yemenis – into the EU. Dirham was also intermediating and channeling the money flow from the exchange with office owners in Central European countries to his counterparts in Germany, France and the UK.

The biggest blow to the Syrian Mukhabarat: Salaf was in Homs almost for three years and known as a wealthy merchant, importer of food, agricultural products and cleaning materials. In this time he travelled to Turkey a few times, the last trip taking him to a refugee camp in Yayladagi, Turkey, between April 9-11 this year, upon "obligatory invitation." When captured in Homs, Salaf was guarded by dozens of armed militia near his office-like flat, where he possessed two satellite phones and other high-tech communication devices.

These days, Syrian security is busy looking for other terrorists in this network, and keeps them in a secure place. Despite a mass of direct, credible info flow from Syrian officials, this one unexpected incident constitutes the most surprising until now.

To make a long story short, it is right to say that Syria is facing a multi-pronged operation: asymmetric warfare based on psycho-sociological facts and demands, enriched with elements of terror management.

­Christoph R. Hörstel for RT

­Сhristoph R. Hörstel is managing director at Hörstel Networks, Government & Business Consulting. http://syria-help.blogspot.de/

http://www.rt.com/news/syria-raids-terror-networks-870/

[rreeve]

Originally Posted by janiebird

I have also just sent the text quoted in Tinyint's original post to the Stop The War Coalition, which is having a demo this week (their email to me as follows) :

10 June 2012
Email: office@stopwar.org.uk
Tel: 020 7561 9311
Web: http://www.stopwar.org.uk
Twitter: http://twitter.com/STWuk
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/stopthewarcoalition

URGENT PICKET
NO WESTERN INTERVENTION IN SYRIA
THURSDAY 14 JUNE, 5.30PM - 7PM
DOWNING STREET, LONDON
.
Every day the calls for increased Western intervention in Syria are growing.

Yesterday former UK foreign secretary David Owen urged Turkey to threaten to lead a NATO intervention in to the country. Today William Hague said the question of military action in Syria remained open.

The media is fixated on the tragic events taking place, treating western
intervention as the only possible way forward, while giving almost no coverage to the stream of deaths in Afghanistan including the NATO attack on an Afghan village last week which apparently killed 18 civilians. (SEE "How many civilians have been killed in 11 years of the 'war on terror'?": http://bit.ly/KsMxrA

No consideration is given to the likely outcome of increased Western
intervention – a massive increase in the casualty and the acceleration of a
drift towards sectarian war which could engulf the whole region. (SEE "Why
foreign intervention in Syria will only shed more blood and could set the
region on fire": http://bit.ly/KwucOA )

The disastrous outcomes of the attacks on Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya are being conveniently forgotten in the push towards another attack. (SEE "How the US blocks peace plans to end the Syria carnage": http://bit.ly/JIGALe )

Officers of Stop the War coalition will be handing in a letter to Downing street on Thursday 14 June at 5.30pm warning against further intervention in
Syria.

We are asking all our supporters who are able to attend to join the picket of
Downing Street at the same time to oppose intervention.

URGENT PICKET
NO WESTERN INTERVENTION IN SYRIA
THURSDAY 14 JUNE, 5.30PM - 7PM
DOWNING STREET, LONDON

The BBC has just reported that Syria has shot down a Turkish fighter yet. I reckon it's all gonna kick off this weekend. Worrying times. My eyes are on Russia and China.

[positive_forward]

Originally Posted by rreeve

The BBC has just reported that Syria has shot down a Turkish fighter yet. I reckon it's all gonna kick off this weekend. Worrying times. My eyes are on Russia and China.

Why would Russia and China become involved?

[lizzy]

So much death , deprivation and msm lies , getting v hard to handle.

[sillybilly]

Hot on the heels of the Nat West fiasco and gradual escalation with Syria and Iran, we have the M15 boss - giving what the news today called - 'a rare interview' warning of terrorism and cyber attacks.
http://www.channel4.com/news/london-...-says-mi5-boss
Timing is everything, as they say

[wakeup2nwo]

Originally Posted by sillybilly

Hot on the heels of the Nat West fiasco and gradual escalation with Syria and Iran, we have the M15 boss - giving what the news today called - 'a rare interview' warning of terrorism and cyber attacks.
http://www.channel4.com/news/london-...-says-mi5-boss
Timing is everything, as they say

Timing sure is everything.

[oneisall]

Maybe Im wrong but the growing "liberation" of mainly islamic north African countries, aswell as Syria and very likely Iraq, looks like nato is trying to make an excuse for attacking these countries full on in the near future, with all the islamic politicians they put in office its just a matter of time when they start living up to their role in the near future

[e7304]

The propaganda IS running thick and fast. First the jet shot down in Syrian waters, but NATO are backing Turkeys view, then the mass defection of officers (how many?....5 or 6!!) and now the terrorists, sorry , free syrian army claim 60% of the country is in terrorist..er FSA hands. This is obviously aimed at the Syrian people and if its like everything else reported by the MSM , is a lie.
Same shit was done to the Libyan people.....I hope the Syrians hold together and kill off these fucks.

[jesuschristantichrist]

So no what? Anyone got a suggestion of a way out of this shit, before they do some messed up cyberattack and shut our communications?

[tinyint]

Footage Proves Turkish Jet Violated Syrian Airspace - YouTube

Footage Proves Turkish Jet Violated Syrian Airspace - YouTube

Syrian Air Defense Stands Firm against NATO Test

Ankara is trying to get the most out of the incident when a Turkish reconnaissance aircraft was downed flying over the Syrian territorial waters on June 22. The North Atlantic Council will meet on June 26 to hold consultations on the issue.

NATO spokesperson Oana Lungescu said Turkey would submit a corresponding report in Brussels. On June 22. a Turkish Air Force RF-4E Phantom fighter aircraft disappeared from radar screens an hour and a half after taking off from the Erhach airbase in the Hatay province in southeastern Turkey bordering on Syria (1). A bit later Damascus said the aircraft was hit after entering the Syrian airspace stressing the incident was not to be considered as a “hostile act against Turkey”. Ankara responded saying Syria was to warn the crew about the planned action according to international law. By putting it this way Turkey admitted that its plane violated Syrian air space. Even in a much less tense situation than the one taking place in Syria now it couldn’t do without consequence. True, Turkey added later that while in international airspace the downed fighter “accidently” came near Syria but it sounded absolutely unconvincing. Right after that Ibrahim Kalyn, foreign policy advisor to the Turkish prime minister, accused Syria of “violating international law” and posted remarks on his microblog saying Turkey would take “strong and resolute measures” in response to the downed fighter.

According to the data available the brought down reconnaissance plane made two circles over the Syrian shore invading the country’s airspace. Flying that low it had the mission to test the Syrian air defenses and report the information to a respective NATO center. Having flown over Latakia, the invading aircraft tried to get away with impunity crossing the space over the Syrian territorial waters. A second Turkish plane operated in the vicinity coordinating the flight. As NATO sources report the mission was to test the Syrian air defenses combat readiness. NATO needs to know precisely if the Syrian shore based air defense units have an order to bring down without delay a foreign aircraft in case it violates the national airspace or the military would report to Damascus and lose time. They know the answer now: the Syrian air defense will react immediately without warning in case any air target invades the national airspace.

Some say the bold intrusion had relation to the recent defection of a MIG-21 pilot to Jordan. The same way two Libyan Air Force fighters defected to Malta on February 21. The defectors asked for political asylum, the “Friend or Foe” identification systems got into the hands of NATO. In a month the Alliance started to strike Libya that was actually left without air defense capability.

The “multifunctional” Turkish plane provocation will be used to discredit the Moscow efforts aimed at finding solution to the Syrian crisis and making Russia-Turkey dialogue even less distinct. The responsible position of Moscow that rejects the option of foreign intervention into Syria has come under harsh criticism from some forces in Turkey. President Gul thinks Moscow will finally see it has no other choice but join those who try to make Bashar Assad step down. It’s not enough for the West – they want the Turkish leaders anti-Syrian rhetoric toughened and be converted into deeds.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and his Turkish counterpart discussed the downed plane incident by phone. It should be noted that, unlike in the case of Libya, the Syrian armed forces maintain high combat capability. The efforts exerted by the West and its allies aimed at disintegration of its armed forces have been futile. Except separate cases of desertion, not a single unit of Syrian regular army has gone to the side of the terrorist gangs sent to the country from the territory of neighboring states including Turkey. For instance, last week The New York times reported CIA experts were present in the areas of Turkish territory bordering on Syria in order to coordinate the arms deliveries to the “Syrian Free Army”. On June 25 it was reported that Syrian border guards eliminated a group of terrorists trying to cross the border from Turkey.

The Syrian airspace is defended by Russia produced air defense systems. It’s a reliable guarantee of the country’s sovereignty.

...
http://www.strategic-culture.org/pvi...nato-test.html

[vancity eagle]

If u ask me that jet was remote controlled with no pilot, and sent into Syrian airspace just to be shot down. There is no trace of any pilot.

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by vancity eagle

If u ask me that jet was remote controlled with no pilot, and sent into Syrian airspace just to be shot down. There is no trace of any pilot.

Or Hörstel is right, and the Syrians have captured the pilots.

I had more a thought they might provide the "rebels" aircraft, old ones, and an airbase.

Still, would probably be a good capture, NATO trained pilots.

Anyway, the remote control is also worth a thought, I agree.

[bradstone]

Good points tinyint. However, I would suggest there are some very FAMOUS NATO disinformation campaigns, which have been successful. So much so, that even many posters in here, would laugh at or dismiss the possibility.

* Munich Olympics 1972 attacks
* Lockerbie
* German nightclub bombing
* Suicide attack in Stockholm
* Norway terror attacks 2011
* Dunblane school shooting
* Finland school shootings 2008 and 2010
* Madrid attacks 2004

All of these events were linked to NATO programs. They were entirely fabricated events, with senior police, the coroners, politicians, judges...all co-operating in the hoax.

[chockimon]

Here's video footage of Syrian troops entertaining themselves amid a group of corpses. Is this really the Syrian army, or the FSA posing in Syrian uniforms. You be the judge?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/midd...ative#block-27

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?ne...vjw1jo9c#at=56

[bindi1328]

They thrive on making people feel fearful and do there thing for power and gaining complete control, we have to remember that with great power of hell , anger and filth comes the oppositte, the vunerable good hearted people in this world alongside the people that always knew and have strong will , are going to rise but not in away they are expecting , i strongly believe there is a higher force backing us all and no bully gets away with taking and destroying forever it is the law of karma and all abides by it thats how we achieve yin and yan, also we have to remeber it is all a lesson what for? i dont know, it is as much our karma as it is anyones, We have to work towards changing ourselves to be the best , not being full of hate , regret and revenge , But at one in oursleves and confident and strong , This is very important .

[chockimon]

Well said and you're spot on about how first and foremost we must change ourselves and not buy into the hatred & fear. However I'm not a firm believer that some benevolent powerful force is watching over us and will eventually intervene and save us. What exactly is this force waiting for. How many more people have to suffer before it takes immediate action. At the end of the day we only have each other and that I believe is all we have. If we don't step up and come together, humanity is doomed.

[bindi1328]

Are there any meeting or groups held within the uk, i dont mean any protesting gatherings as good as they are i dont feel they do any justice on a whole...But to organize or meet people that had structure and direction would be great to meet.I find myself making websites for people to talk and give direction too , and maybe my head is a little in the imaginative realm, but then when you think of egyptians and there amazing leftovers a higher force or gallatic neighbours does not seem so far from reality. I think with our society and the way we have been programmed to a degree stops us looking up at the night sky or questioning more...just my opinion ).

[king octopus]

Freshman year of High School I was taught that military alliances were the cause of World War 1 and afterwords the leaders decided to never have alliances of nations where they all have to go to war together. That was the point of the League of Nations to eliminate war forever.

[tinyint]

Russia Calls 'Friends of Syria' Group ‘Immoral’

Meetings being organized by the Friends of Syria group are one-sided and immoral, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich has said.

“Russia, China and a number of other countries which have traditionally friendly relations with the Syrian Arab Republic and its people have refused to join those ‘friends’ because we believe that the format that they have chosen is not only politically wrong, but also immoral,” Lukashevich said.

His remarks followed a conference of the Friends of Syria group held in Paris on Friday, in which representatives of some 100 countries took part.

Participants in the talks voiced strong criticism of Russia and China for their reluctance to join Western and Arab governments in calling on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step down.

In her address to the delegates, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Moscow and Beijing “will pay a price” for “holding up progress” on Syria, urging the participating countries to put pressure on Russia and China to withdraw their support for Assad.

"I ask you to reach out to Russia and China and to not only urge, but demand that they get off the sidelines and begin to support the legitimate aspirations of the Syrian people," Clinton said, adding: “I don't think Russia and China believe they are paying any price at all, nothing at all, for standing up on behalf of the Assad regime.”

Lukashevich said in his comments that the U.S. and its allies’ “friendship” with the Syrian opposition alone could further deepen the bloody 17-month-long conflict between the Syrian government and those fighting it.

“This would mean only one thing – the continuation of bloodshed and new human tragedies,” Lukashevich said.

“We have an impression that some of the participants in the Geneva meeting on July 30 this year do not take seriously the responsibility that ensues from the provisions of its final communique,” he added.

Participants in the Geneva talks, including the five permanent UN Security Council members - Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States – as well as Turkey, Iraq, Qatar and Kuwait have urged the Syrian government and opposition groups to immediately end fighting and obey to a peace plan proposed by UN and Arab League envoy Kofi Annan.

They also called for the creation of a transitional government in Syria involving members of both the current Syrian leadership and opposition groups.

Instead of pushing the conflicting Syrian sides to work together to achieve peaceful transition, he said, the Friends of Syria group organize “politico-propagandist performances in the spirit of party congresses, where the fate of Syria is being discussed in the absence of its representatives and loud calls on oppositionists to launch an uncompromising fight to overthrow the Syrian leadership are being heard.”

Those calls are being strengthened by “generous promises of financial and economic support, as well as behind-the-scenes hints at the possibility of using a military scenario” in Syria, he added.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20120707/174443798.html

Moscow Warns West of ‘Big War’ in Syria

Moscow lashed out on Thursday at the Western position on Syria, saying it could aggravate the situation to the point of war.

“Their [Western] position is most likely to exacerbate the situation, lead to further violence and ultimately a very big war,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.

The West has also distorted the Russian position on Syria by suggesting Moscow should offer Syrian President Bashar al-Assad asylum, he said.

“This is either an unscrupulous attempt to mislead serious people who shape foreign policy or simply a misunderstanding of what is going on,” Lavrov said.

He also warned that Russia will reject any UN Security Council peace enforcement resolution on Syria, since that would be “nothing but intervention.”

The minister also said representatives of the Syrian opposition will visit Moscow next week.

On Wednesday, Moscow urged Syrian opposition groups to unite to find a peaceful solution to the ongoing crisis.

The UN estimated in May that some 10,000 people have been killed in Syria since the beginning of a revolt against President Bashar al-Assad in March 2011. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a London-based organization with a network of activists in Syria, revised the death toll to 16,500 on Monday. Of those, some 5,000 were government troops and army defectors, the group said. June had been the bloodiest month of the conflict so far, with around 100 deaths every day, it said.

The UN Security Council has so far failed to find a way to settle the conflict. Russia and China have refused to support any plans for outside interference in Syria.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20120705/174419990.html