Moon Landing A Fake or Fact - expose

[emerald]

"Neil Armstrong Recalls Hair-Raising Apollo Moon Landing

Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the moon 43 years ago, has tried to live a private life since Apollo 11 came back to Earth, but he did agree to give a rare interview -- to the head of an Australian accounting group.

In an hour-long conversation with Alex Malley of CPA Australia, Armstrong retold the story of his life as an astronaut, culminating in the 1969 landing, with his crewmate Buzz Aldrin, on the lunar plain they called Tranquility Base.

"I should say I thought we had a 90 percent chance of getting back to Earth on that flight," Armstrong said in this rare interview, "but only a 50-50 chance of making a successful landing on the first attempt."

The landing was so complicated, and their lunar landing ship Eagle so low on fuel that Armstrong touched down less than 30 seconds before Mission Control would have told them to give up and try to come home. Eagle's computer, overloaded with data as it tried to steer the ship to the surface, was trying to put them down in a crater full of boulders.

"Those slopes are steep, the rocks are very large -- the size of automobiles," he said. He took over manual control, skittering over the lunar surface in search of a safe place to land.

"There's so many unknowns in that descending from lunar orbit down to the surface that hadn't been demonstrated by testing," Armstrong said in the interview, "and there was a big chance that we didn't understand something in there properly, and we had to abort and come back to Earth without landing."

Armstrong, now 81, has spent the years since Apollo 11 as an engineering professor, a member of corporate boards and an occasional public advocate for continued space exploration. He said he thought it a pity that the Obama administration and Congress today disagreed on America's future in space, with NASA caught as a "shuttlecock" between them.

"NASA has been one of the most successful public investments in motivating students to do well and achieve all they can achieve," said Armstrong. "It's sad that we are turning the program in a direction where it will reduce the amount of motivation and stimulation it provides to young people. And that's a major concern to me."

In the interview Armstrong is characteristically soft-spoken, choosing his words slowly, often fending off questions by repeating things he said in the years after his return from the moon. Has made occasional public appearances in recent years to testify before Congress or mark major anniversaries of the space effort. He has declined most other requests for interviews, and stopped giving autographs when people sold them for thousands of dollars.

So why did he agree to talk to a CPA? Malley, quoted by Australian media, said, "I know something not a lot of people know about Neil Armstrong -- his dad was an auditor."

Armstrong was asked about the rumors over the years that the moon landings were faked, and he chuckled. "It was never a concern to me because I know that one day, somebody's going to go fly back up there and pick up the camera that I left."

[rodin]

Originally Posted by truegroup

Flooding the forum with numerous duplicate threads. Instead of responding to the rebuttals, ignoring them. Fling enough crap at the wall and hoping some of it will stick.

I thought I had 'bumped' this thread as you put it. Maybe I was mistaken? certainly I did not commit any of the other crimes you list.

Perhaps a list of these duplicate threads would be in order?

[hagbard_celine]

Very interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPLbk0O3qA0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPLbk0O3qA0

This person seems to know their stuff!

[rodin]

Originally Posted by hagbard_celine

Very interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPLbk0O3qA0

This person seems to know their stuff!

Will view later, but not in present location (Wetherspoons)

[phrased eyebrow]

I look forward to watching that as well. Thanks for the contribution.

[phrased eyebrow]

Enjoyed the video, thanks hagbard celine. "beep"

the fantasy lander of the lunar module - YouTube

the fantasy lander of the lunar module - YouTube

[emerald]

"Mystery Mini Space Shuttle X-37B Lands in California

The mysterious unmanned mini-space shuttle on a classified mission has finally returned to earth.

It landed early Saturday morning at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California after weather conditions kept pushing back landing attempts the last few days.

The Air Force's X-37B, is an unmanned reusable spacecraft built by Boeing that has spent more than a year on a classified mission in space.

Measuring 29 feet in length and having a 15-foot wingspan, the unmanned reusable X-37B Orbital Test Vehicle looks like a miniature version of NASA's now retired space shuttles.

The spacecraft landed at Vandenberg at 5:48am PDT after having spent 469 days in orbit.

The craft went into orbit on March 5, 2011, but as was the case during its first launch in 2010, very little has been known about its mission or what payloads it might be carrying because its missions are classified.

That has led to speculation that the spacecraft is involved in intelligence gathering operations or the testing of new technologies.

In keeping with the scarce mission details for the X-37B, all the Air Force would say in a statement Saturday wais that the spacecraft had "conducted on-orbit experiments" during its mission.

Lt. Col. Tom McIntyre, the X-37B program manager said, "With the retirement of the Space Shuttle fleet, the X-37B OTV program brings a singular capability to space technology development." He added, "The return capability allows the Air Force to test new technologies without the same risk commitment faced by other programs. We're proud of the entire team's successful efforts to bring this mission to an outstanding conclusion."

Even the initial announcement about an upcoming landing details kept the details vague. A May 30 Air Force statement said the spacecraft would return to earth in the "early- to mid-June time frame."

Designed to stay in extended Earth orbits, the X-37B remained in orbit for 224 days during its maiden mission in 2010.

This mission kept it in orbit more than twice as long this time around.

An Air Force statement announcing Saturday's landing says the X37B will launch again later this fall aboard an Atlas V booster. "

[stelios]

http://archive.org/details/MoonLandi...eUsedInTheFake

This is an interesting video.
The actor says clearly:
that he wished Dave had "packed the slope a little better"
and that "Chevrons do a good job of compacting this soil".

Chevron Heavy Roller Soil Compactors which are made by Caterpillar i believe were used to compact the soil to create the set which was used for the simulations.
This is admitted by NASA.
So why are they discussing this when they are allegedly walking on the Moon?

Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 15 : Chevron Soil Compactors Were Used in The Fake Moon Bays - YouTube

Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 15 : Chevron Soil Compactors Were Used in The Fake Moon Bays - YouTube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mROpi7W6wLU

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by stelios

This is an interesting video.

Nope, it is shite.

The actor says clearly:

No silly, it is an astronaut on the Moon.

that he wished Dave had "packed the slope a little better"
and that "Chevrons do a good job of compacting this soil".

Chevron Heavy Roller Soil Compactors which are made by Caterpillar i believe were used to compact the soil to create the set which was used for the simulations.
This is admitted by NASA.
So why are they discussing this when they are allegedly walking on the Moon?

Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 15 : Chevron Soil Compactors Were Used in The Fake Moon Bays - YouTube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mROpi7W6wLU

Hey you silly old HBs, bumping all the Moon threads? You bored or something, needed a little spamming to lighten up the forum


The chevrons are the lunar rover tyres you big numpty, and the reference for the slope is a skiing one, where the first person going down makes it easier for the second.

The problem you have is that unfortunately you took a video from the biggest youtube imbecile out there, arcangel4myke. A fool so sure of himself that he disables comments and voting on every single one of his moronic observations.



The transcript from that video from the ALSJ:

144:39:14 Irwin: Yeah. Mine's 180.
144:39:18 Allen: Roger. Better change it.

144:39:21 Scott: (Garbled)

144:39:22 Irwin: I wish you'd packed the slope a little better, Dave.

144:39:25 Scott: Yeah; we'll get them to do that next time.

[This is yet another Apollo skiing reference.]
[Scott - "When you ski, you pack soft slopes."]

[Although Dave gets a later start than Jim, he soon catches him because, where Jim is using a slow, two-footed hop, Dave is striding and/or skipping. Jim may have made a deliberate decision to climb slowly, perhaps because he is unable to get a drink from his water bag.]

144:39:27 Scott: But look at the Rover tracks; I'm going to take some pictures of the Rover tracks here. And our boot prints, both. Look at the difference. That old Rover is light.
[The Rover tracks are quite shallow, whereas the bootprints are deep. The difference is due to the fact that the relatively large contact area of the Rover wheels distribute the vehicle weight more than the boots spread the astronauts' weight.]
144:39:39 Irwin: It does a lot better than we do!
144:39:40 Scott: Yeah, it sure does. Much better!

144:39:43 Irwin: (Laughing) Ohhh!

[Dave stops, puts the gnomon down, and takes photos AS15-86- 11652 and 11653.]
[Frame 11652 shows some deep bootprints in the soft east rim of the Station 6 crater. These footprints are the ones Jim just made as he started his climb back up to the Rover.]

[11653 is a stereo companion to 11652. At the upper left, note the Rover tracks which show that Dave drove uphill around the east side of the crater as he approached his parking place.]

144:39:50 Allen: A little something for the soil mechanics (experts). Sounds great...
144:39:51 Irwin: Here, I'll walk up right alongside the tracks, there, so you...

144:39:53 Scott: (Garbled)

144:39:53 Allen: ...And we'd like for you to put several scoops of the soil in bag number 6 on the Hand Tool Carrier when you get back to the Rover.

144:40:02 Scott: (To Joe) Okay. (To Jim) Go ahead, Jim. (Pause) Yeah, that's a great picture but don't fall down.

144:40:10 Irwin: (Laughs) That'd be even a better picture! Well, you know the surface here is harder than it was over...

144:40:17 Scott: Yeah.

144:40:18 Irwin: ...near the (east rim of the) crater. At least you'll get a comparison. Boy, those (tire) chevrons do a good job of compacting the soil.

Video Clip 2 min 33 sec ( 0.7 Mb RealVideo or 23 Mb MPG )

144:40:30 Scott: Yeah. (Long Pause)

[Note that, prior this last exchange, Jim had moved above the crater and was off the very soft soil on the rim.]
[Figure 1-4a from the Lunar Roving Vehicle Operations Handbook shows the chevron-patterned tread on the wire wheels.]

[While Jim continues the climb, Dave takes another stereopair, AS15-86- 11654 and 11655 . Frame 11654 shows a greater length of track. Readers may want to compare this photo with AS15-85- 11487, a frame from Jim's Station 6 pan which shows the Rover tracks from an uphill perspective. The last frame in Dave's series of bootprint and Rover track photos is 11655 is a particularly good photo. While Dave took these pictures, Jim was literally walking, rather than hopping.]

144:40:47 Scott: Man, you know, (laughing) I'd sure hate to have to climb up here. (Laughs) Boy!
144:40:53 Irwin: Yeah, let's work above the Rover from now on.

[Jim stops and rests for a moment before he finishes the last few meters of the climb. He seems to be struggling. When he gets to the Rover, we can hear a little of the effort in his voice. The climb took him about 2 minutes 20 seconds and covered about 20 meters of north-south distance and, if the average slope was 15 degrees, involved a rise of about 5 meters. His overal speed was about 8.8 m/min or 0.5 km/hr. Jim's heart rate peaked at about 130 beats-per-minute as he got to the Rover. Dave's heart rate peaked at about 96.]
144:40:56 Scott: Yeah. Well, you got to go "up" some time. (Pause) You'd never get here (that is, to Station 6) without this thing (meaning the Rover)!
144:41:21 Irwin: Okay. Joe wants scoops of soil into bag (SCB) 6, huh? That the one on the back of the pallet? Must be.

144:41:29 Scott: Yeah, but that's...Hey. (To Joe, speaking noticeably louder this time) Why don't we put them in a sample bag, Joe? Why...

144:41:35 Irwin: Yeah.

144:41:36 Scott: (To Jim) I'll get you a sample bag.

144:41:39 Irwin: Yeah.

144:41:40 Allen: Suit yourself, Dave, that sounds good...

[stelios]

Here is a high res NASA image, i say it was taken using scale models. No way was that pile of junk spaceworthy

[moving finger]

Originally Posted by stelios

Here is a high res NASA image, i say it was taken using scale models. No way was that pile of junk spaceworthy

And what, in your immensely skilled and knowledgeable judgement, prevents it from being 'spaceworthy'? Specifically?

What scale is the 'model'?

Are the tyre tracks and footprints in the image also 'models' and if so, what made them? Did someone have dinky little astronaut boots on their fingers and do a little one-step two-step over it?

Intelligent readers might like to look at this panorama, of which the imaged posted by stelios is a very small part.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/a16pan1431346.jpg

[stelios]

Originally Posted by moving finger

Did someone have dinky little astronaut boots on their fingers and do a little one-step two-step over it?

You might have a point, that does look like a dinky little astronaut.
Are you honestly telling us that that astronaut does not look like a model?
Look at the feet. look at the angle it is leaning and what exactly is he doing?

In most science fiction films and tv shows scale models were used to film many of the shots.
This was before the advent of computers and digital film making and ofcourse computer generated graphics.

[moving finger]

Originally Posted by stelios

You might have a point, that does look like a dinky little astronaut.
Are you honestly telling us that that astronaut does not look like a model?
Look at the feet. look at the angle it is leaning and what exactly is he doing?

In most science fiction films and tv shows scale models were used to film many of the shots.
This was before the advent of computers and digital film making and ofcourse computer generated graphics.

He is checking the LRV out before driving off.

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a16/a16.lrvdep.html#1193346

'Spaceworthyness' of the LM? No?

Care to post us some photos of those realistic and lifelike scale models from sci-fi films around 1969-72?

[stelios]

What a dodgy looking photo

[moving finger]

Originally Posted by stelios

What a dodgy looking photo

Or dodgy regurgitating of a post you have already been discredited over.

As you already know, the image is not a single photograph - it's a composite photograph put together by Ian Regan.

Here it is on his computer:



http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/IanRegan.html

Do you really think people are so stupid they won't remember what you've already spammed?

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by stelios

[SIZE="pineapple chunks"]What a dodgy looking photo[/SIZE]

This is the "guess what stelios is thinking" game. It's hard enough at the best of times, because most of us don't naturally assume daft things, but I just put my fonejacker hat on and I'll give it a go

We know from the two previous times you made this claim, that you are totally aware that firstly it is a composite photograph. We know you know this because you responded to the posts pointing this out. You are basically just offering this and other repeat nonsense again as a means to bump as many Moon related threads as possible. Well done, fine truth seeking!

Now, the picture kind of similar to one Apollo 14 frame. What you think is the "dodgy" part I am guessing is where the Sun bleeds into the LM, or has concentric circles.

On a dark sky, this picture below would do the same sort of thing....



Kind of like this....



Or maybe at Sunset (with "Nibiru")....



Or a simple lens flare test...



The bleeding effect of the light onto the foreground image does the same thing on Earth ("Nibiru" again on the rock face)....



Or here....



Or here....

[elshaper]

The mission to the moon was arranged in just two weeks. Great!
First step of the moon was filmed in London.
Bit about the camera they supposedly took to the moon was interesting. Without the protective sheild, the lens would have broken into pieces in such a harsh environment.

People in Hanoi..."They were smoking grass all the time" LOL
and the family is eating food right by the mummified agent's body in a coffin

It's all lies.... moon landing, 911, 7/7

Dark Side of the Moon Part 1/6 (Documentary) - YouTube

Dark Side of the Moon Part 1/6 (Documentary) - YouTube

[phrased eyebrow]

Originally Posted by truegroup

Or maybe at Sunset (with "Nibiru")....

Funny thing is, one used to be able to watch the sun slip over the horizon during the sunset. Remember the life savers commercial? Even Star Wars' rendition of our earthly sun wasn't perceived as damaging to the eye.

[truegroup]

Originally Posted by elshaper

The mission to the moon was arranged in just two weeks. Great!
First step of the moon was filmed in London.
Bit about the camera they supposedly took to the moon was interesting. Without the protective sheild, the lens would have broken into pieces in such a harsh environment.

People in Hanoi..."They were smoking grass all the time" LOL
and the family is eating food right by the mummified agent's body in a coffin

It's all lies.... moon landing, 911, 7/7

Wikipedia (Thumbnails)

Wikipedia (Thumbnails)
Wikipedia (Thumbnails)

"It is finally revealed that this is a mockumentary as the end credits roll over a montage of blooper reels, with the main participants laughing over the absurdity of their lines or questioning if particular ones would give the joke away too soon. Besides being a comedic documentary, it is also an exercise in Jean Baudrillard's theories of hyperreality. In a 2004 interview, the director was asked why he would elect to make a film "closer to a comedy than a serious film"; Karel replied that in the wake of having made serious documentaries, the objective was "de faire un film drôle" (to make a funny film)."

"When the film was shown to a group of sociology students studying conspiracy theories, many mistakenly believed that this was a sincere and serious film.[2] Furthermore, moon-landing hoax advocate Wayne Green cited the film as evidence for his views, apparently believing the out of context footage of Nixon staff was really about a moon landing hoax.[3]

Australian broadcaster SBS television aired the film on April 1 as an April fools' joke, and again on 17 November 2008 as part of Kubrick week. It was aired again on 27 July 2009, perhaps to coincide with the anniversary of the moon landing."

It never ceases to amaze me how many people get completely taken in by this.

[phrased eyebrow]

People will believe ANYTHING