you resisters will be massacred/jailed

[jikwan]

way things are developing, the US and UK governments
are spoiling for a fight. theyve been deliberately trying to
piss people off-its increasing by the day
we moan and complain a lot, but can take a lot more shit
than this before theres real, serious reactions
i believe what the above mentioned govts want is more or
less what happened in stalins russia and maos china
theres a few brave and courageous souls among us that
think things could be put right through armed resistance
it dont matter how many firearms you got-still going to get
massacered
the perfect examples in history are china and russia
but this time, the armed forces 1000 times more effective
dont stand a chance

[ozpixie]

You sound kind of happy about all that or have I misunderstood you?

[bluegrazz]

Originally Posted by ozpixie

You sound kind of happy about all that or have I misunderstood you?

Read that post in with an Female Indian voice in your head (a very happy voice) while picturing the ops avatar saying everything you read.

-I found it funny anyhow =/

[stickwhistler]

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago:

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt."

Print the passage out, and give a copy to your local PTB stooge,
or leave it somewhere they will find it if you wish to remain anonymous,
e.g. letter box, on their desk, on their office floor, in the local library,
under their car windscreen wiper etc.

"Just spreading literary works", is your excuse if challenged.

[freedomfox59]

Originally Posted by bluegrazz

Read that post in with an Female Indian voice in your head (a very happy voice) while picturing the ops avatar saying everything you read.

-I found it funny anyhow =/

Yeah, that actually was kind of funny.

[jikwan]

Originally Posted by ozpixie

You sound kind of happy about all that or have I misunderstood you?

i cant detect having any kind of strong emotion
whilst typing it out
its always been an interest of mine: how have
people responded to extreme action from their
masters/govt
the oppressed havnt a very good track record
(going by what was written in history books, personal
eye witness accounts, books like the gulag A, etc)

[jikwan]

Originally Posted by stickwhistler

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago:

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt."

Print the passage out, and give a copy to your local PTB stooge,
or leave it somewhere they will find it if you wish to remain anonymous,
e.g. letter box, on their desk, on their office floor, in the local library,
under their car windscreen wiper etc.

"Just spreading literary works", is your excuse if challenged.

that quote was a very well written piece. inspiring,even.
its not my intention to replace a statement like that with something
like what ive written--"dont even think about it, youre defeated
before you even start"
my opening statement was written in a way where im challenging
you potential resistors. what makes you think you would be successful
where the russians and chinese failed?

one important point-many people are non aggressive by nature.
these people are averse to harming and killing. that strong karma
is unlikely to change overnight
others are natural cowards. can you imagine a coward suddenly
turning brave?
our modern people are unhealthy (most of them)
this will influence their decision to resist

[jonas parker]

Originally Posted by jikwan

i cant detect having any kind of strong emotion
whilst typing it out
its always been an interest of mine: how have
people responded to extreme action from their
masters/govt
the oppressed havnt a very good track record
(going by what was written in history books, personal
eye witness accounts, books like the gulag A, etc)

The oppressed, in most countries at least, haven't been armed either!

[stickwhistler]

Originally Posted by jikwan

...................... what makes you think you would be successful
where the russians and chinese failed?

Hve you ever heard of Bougainville?

The people there resisted the Australian army and navy and the military
of Papua New Guinea, and they won - everything a free people desire.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6025577999101#

Inspiration if ever you need it.

[dawnuk]

of coursin the UK we don't have arms...(guns etc)

look at the history books....in WW2....

and see what happened.... people died trying to protect their houses etc....or just staying put.... you have to know when to go.

[jikwan]

Originally Posted by stickwhistler

Hve you ever heard of Bougainville?

The people there resisted the Australian army and navy and the military
of Papua New Guinea, and they won - everything a free people desire.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6025577999101#

Inspiration if ever you need it.

ths is another success story. they did very well
afganistan is another (but they had the terrain on their side.
and they are a very tough people. a real embarrassment fo
the russians, brits and the usa

but this usa/uk looming police state, then possible civil war
is on home ground. in the same way that stalin fought on home
ground. so did mao

[jikwan]

again, look at burma. the millitary rule had a very
tough time with the rebels-but they maintained
their superior position. home ground again

its very inconvenient when the war you fight is
4000 miles away

[ritchs]

Originally Posted by stickwhistler

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago:

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt."

Print the passage out, and give a copy to your local PTB stooge,
or leave it somewhere they will find it if you wish to remain anonymous,
e.g. letter box, on their desk, on their office floor, in the local library,
under their car windscreen wiper etc.

"Just spreading literary works", is your excuse if challenged.

+1

Live free or Die - State motto of New Hampshire

Yes indeed, if the Jews rushed the SS guards with guns and dogs they would have won. No one is brave enough to take the first bullet. When you realize you are dead already, then you are unbeatable and without fear.

This is why a high tech soldier with ultra training and expensive equipment like night vision goggles will always lose against a beggar in rags with ten sticks TNT taped to him. It not the size of the dog in a fight, its the amount of fight in the dog

[ozpixie]

Originally Posted by jikwan

i cant detect having any kind of strong emotion
whilst typing it out
its always been an interest of mine: how have
people responded to extreme action from their
masters/govt
the oppressed havnt a very good track record
(going by what was written in history books, personal
eye witness accounts, books like the gulag A, etc)

Thanks for the clarification. That's how I see it too, especially after now having read so many of their books.

Hearing people talk about agendas and conspiracies is one thing, reading what the men and women themselves think and their stated intentions is another thing entirely.

[ozpixie]

Originally Posted by jikwan

ths is another success story. they did very well
afganistan is another (but they had the terrain on their side.
and they are a very tough people. a real embarrassment fo
the russians, brits and the usa

but this usa/uk looming police state, then possible civil war
is on home ground. in the same way that stalin fought on home
ground. so did mao

Some of the Reservists, from the 58th Battalion went on exercise, then without notice were then put on ship for to Bouganville. They did not know anything about their orders and could not even say goodbye to family.

[firstlook]

the thing is most soldiers in ALL armies or positions of authority dont know any better. Thats the issue you get when talking about hierarchy and people telling you what you have to do to live safely and without fear. Ideas change, people don't. Loyalty is something good. its the clash of ideas that pits brother against brother. Everyone trying to solve a problem.

Its the issue of chain of command. I would argue that point above anything else. People follow orders, so if you have a problem with those orders, you go to the source.

I think this is the general Idea of diplomacy and palaver.

I recently watch Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows. Intelligence and patience seem more.......beneficial to whatever you stand for then quick response. That said, If I was in a "death" Camp, damn strait I'd choose how to die. I don't want to think about that though.

[dbzmatt]

We can't live forever, yet. So do something with your life now before its too late.

[snakesnladders]

Originally Posted by jikwan

i cant detect having any kind of strong emotion
whilst typing it out
its always been an interest of mine: how have
people responded to extreme action from their
masters/govt
the oppressed havnt a very good track record
(going by what was written in history books, personal
eye witness accounts, books like the gulag A, etc)

well she IS right, i mean historically speaking, it's better to keep your mouth shut if you've done any modern history. even being on this forum makes you a sitting duck for any govt that wants to arrest the intellectuals or smart members of society likely to resist the nwo...

heard this ditty before? please god, make me dumb, so i do not, to auschwitz come....

the nazis arrested intellectuals en masse. in fact, since jews were generally often thought smarter than the average population, a good argument could be made that this is actually why they were massacred... becuz they had smart genes that were a threat to those in power....

and if you do uprise... i mean spiritually it might be better to die fighting.
from a practical point of view tho... things may look different...

they have a huge amount of guns...
and i disagree with David Icke when he says we are many they are few
i tend to think THEY are probably 'many' as well....

so yeah; practically speaking... could be tricky....

guess u could call that defeatist huh...

its cruelty to animals and kids that makes me really sick
don't really care myself who's in power so long as they aren't cruel to kids and children - and women as well....
but humans are just as guilty of this
i really haven't got much faith in the human race either to be honest....

even if they were to rule themselves...

how many humans are paediphiles?
how many humans rape women?
how many humans abuse animals, including sexual abuse?

LOTS.

is the unfortunate answer.

it's a sick sick world.

quite frankly if a reptilian govt promised to end this crap, i'd probably join them...

[jikwan]

Originally Posted by snakesnladders

well she IS right, i mean historically speaking, it's better to keep your mouth shut if you've done any modern history. even being on this forum makes you a sitting duck for any govt that wants to arrest the intellectuals or smart members of society likely to resist the nwo...

heard this ditty before? please god, make me dumb, so i do not, to auschwitz come....

the nazis arrested intellectuals en masse. in fact, since jews were generally often thought smarter than the average population, a good argument could be made that this is actually why they were massacred... becuz they had smart genes that were a threat to those in power....

and if you do uprise... i mean spiritually it might be better to die fighting.
from a practical point of view tho... things may look different...

they have a huge amount of guns...
and i disagree with David Icke when he says we are many they are few
i tend to think THEY are probably 'many' as well....

so yeah; practically speaking... could be tricky....

guess u could call that defeatist huh...

its cruelty to animals and kids that makes me really sick
don't really care myself who's in power so long as they aren't cruel to kids and children - and women as well....
but humans are just as guilty of this
i really haven't got much faith in the human race either to be honest....

even if they were to rule themselves...

how many humans are paediphiles?
how many humans rape women?
how many humans abuse animals, including sexual abuse?

LOTS.

is the unfortunate answer.

it's a sick sick world.

quite frankly if a reptilian govt promised to end this crap, i'd probably join them...

hey, 'cmon man, its bad, but not as bad as that
there is a way out-a few ways out of it
personally, i believe theyve got us beat from the start, we're
defeated before we begin. one main reason for that is theyre
on home ground.
can avoid the needless bloodshead (your own) by living very
quietly and going along with it. at least you live!
pretty shitty life, though.
go to another, more peaceful country
or as im in the process of doing-finding as remote a place as possible
where there may be (hopefully) like minded people intent on
spiritual development. im almost there.
not in usa or uk where i think martial law is imminent
if people want to fight and kill each other---theres not too much
i can do about it. i dont want to be involved
might see a mass exodus fairly soon
why not join the bandwaggon?

[jikwan]

Originally Posted by firstlook

the thing is most soldiers in ALL armies or positions of authority dont know any better. Thats the issue you get when talking about hierarchy and people telling you what you have to do to live safely and without fear. Ideas change, people don't. Loyalty is something good. its the clash of ideas that pits brother against brother. Everyone trying to solve a problem.

Its the issue of chain of command. I would argue that point above anything else. People follow orders, so if you have a problem with those orders, you go to the source.

I think this is the general Idea of diplomacy and palaver.

I recently watch Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows. Intelligence and patience seem more.......beneficial to whatever you stand for then quick response. That said, If I was in a "death" Camp, damn strait I'd choose how to die. I don't want to think about that though.

fema camps are for potential troublemakers which both you and i are
something tells me they got our names and locations
we would act as if we were a desease to their cause
we might not resist physically-we resist by spreading information.
this will upset them