Quorn And Prolonged Life

[neutrino]

Originally Posted by positive_forward

Let's face it if you paid attention to all the alleged ill side effects of food, you'd eat sod all. What are you left with,a few veggies a bit of fruit lol, even then you got pesticides, GM, is organic really any better? Probably..though if that's all you'd eat you'd probably end up sick.

If there's one thing I've learnt in my life from reading news and health websites etc it's that EVERYTHING is bad for your health! Humans shouldn't be eating. lol

Maybe we are designed to chew on sunbeams.

[positive_forward]

Originally Posted by neutrino

If there's one thing I've learnt in my life from reading news and health websites etc it's that EVERYTHING is bad for your health! Humans shouldn't be eating. lol

Maybe we are designed to chew on sunbeams.

I guess all things in moderation is the key. And some variety. I pity those who fell for the breatharian scam. Megabolistic anemia is a vegan's worst night mare.

[princessofwands]

neutrino, maybe the lethargy is partly due to lack of iron and you were getting anemic?

lesleypumpshaft, I've only eaten the Quorn sausages and burgers and I do find them strong flavoured in a salty kind of way. I've never eaten meat so I can't do a comparison.

[neutrino]

Originally Posted by princessofwands

neutrino, maybe the lethargy is partly due to lack of iron and you were getting anemic?

Na I eat plenty of spinach, I think Iron is the last thing I'm deficient in.

[saty]

Originally Posted by neutrino

If there's one thing I've learnt in my life from reading news and health websites etc it's that EVERYTHING is bad for your health! Humans shouldn't be eating. lol

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fucking lol.You hit the nail on the head with that one.
Go breatharian!

[getmeout]

Originally Posted by positive_forward

Let's face it if you paid attention to all the alleged ill side effects of food, you'd eat sod all. What are you left with,a few veggies a bit of fruit lol, even then you got pesticides, GM, is organic really any better? Probably..though if that's all you'd eat you'd probably end up sick.

True, i think one has to experiment for a while then find a balance that works well.

It's mostly about what we prioritize and can afford ourselves to do.
People who are ill and need to heal themselves up need a stricter diet and so on.


...yes organic is better. Lightyears
If organic fruit all you eat chances are you'd end up healthier than you've ever been, though you might initially feel sick because your body will start to detox itself.

[allure]

Originally Posted by neutrino

So where do you get your protein? and how much protein per day does your body get fed? I find it hard to believe you can get enough protein from nuts and lentils/beans.

It's actually quite difficult to not get enough protein. Pretty much the only way to not get enough protein, is to not eat enough food.

For example, today I've had 1 litre of green vegetable juice, 2 scrambled eggs on whole-wheat pitta, and 2 bananas with peanut butter.

So I've eaten very little, and already had around 50g of protein, which is MORE than someone of my weight requires in a day.

And I'm going out for dinner in a few hours, and will probably snack again before bed.

Getting enough protein happens all by itself when you eat.

I'm not training for Mr Olympia.

[tenzingnorgay]

Originally Posted by allure

It's actually quite difficult to not get enough protein. Pretty much the only way to not get enough protein, is to not eat enough food.

For example, today I've had 1 litre of green vegetable juice, 2 scrambled eggs on whole-wheat pitta, and 2 bananas with peanut butter.

So I've eaten very little, and already had around 50g of protein, which is MORE than someone of my weight requires in a day.

And I'm going out for dinner in a few hours, and will probably snack again before bed.

Getting enough protein happens all by itself when you eat.

I'm not training for Mr Olympia.

If you're a vegan though, it's real easy to not get enough protein.

[tenzingnorgay]

Originally Posted by neutrino

I don't eat their patties, never even seen a quorn pattie to be honest.

I've just got ham slices and roast style sliced fillets from the fridge and these are the ingredients on the packet:

Ham slices: Mycoprotein, rehydrated free range egg white, milk proteins, water, flavouring (with colour: iron oxide), pea fibre, sorbitol, preservative: potassium sorbate.

sliced fillets: Mycoprotein, rehydrated free range egg white, flavouring, gelling agent: pectin, pea fibre, dextrose, vegetable oil.

I just went and took my quorn fillets and quorn pieces from the freezer and they are entirely just quorn therefore the ingredients are simply mycoprotein and rehydrated free range egg white with nothing else in it except it says flavouring.

I've yet to see any mention of yeast extract. I'll assume they're in the more processed foods. I don't go for all those burgers and sausages or whatever, I just stick to the cheaper varients of quorn like the fillets, pieces, mince, slices and goujons. I don't see the point in the going for the more exotic quorn products I feel it's just extra calories for nothing.
So yeh, I'm sure in some products there's loads of shit added but it's on a products by product basis, their more basic foods don't have all that shit added so claiming all quorn is going to be full of all these different ingredients is a misunderstanding.

There's no misunderstanding on my part. Every Quorn product has something toxic in it. Quorn has very little taste without artificial flavor. "Flavouring" usually means MSG or autolyzed yeast extract or something equally toxic. Rehydrated eggs are not a healthy food to eat. Research it for yourself. Iron oxide is toxic. Sorbitol has numerous potential side effects including irritable bowel syndrome. Potassium sorbate causes cancer.

Why are you eating something without researching the ingredients?

[tenzingnorgay]

Originally Posted by positive_forward

I don't care I'll continue to eat quorn now and then.

What part of it do you like best, the cancer causing chemicals, the neurotoxins or one of the other toxins?

[allure]

Originally Posted by tenzingnorgay

If you're a vegan though, it's real easy to not get enough protein.

It really really isn't, it's actually very hard, again, the only way to do it is to not eat enough food. The only thing I ate yesterday that wasn't vegan was 2 eggs, take those out and I still got plenty more than 50g of protein. And had I not ate those eggs, I would have ate something else instead, like say hummus and pitta instead of eggs and pitta, which would have ended up around the same amount of protein.

It could be said there are arguments against being vegan, but lack of protein most certainly isn't one of them, it is a 100% invalid argument.

[allure]

http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/protein.html

I'm not in any way arguing against eating meat BTW.

When it comes to nutrition, protein is pretty much the only thing you don't have to worry about. Just eat and it takes care f itself.

[tenzingnorgay]

Originally Posted by allure

It really really isn't, it's actually very hard, again, the only way to do it is to not eat enough food. The only thing I ate yesterday that wasn't vegan was 2 eggs, take those out and I still got plenty more than 50g of protein. And had I not ate those eggs, I would have ate something else instead, like say hummus and pitta instead of eggs and pitta, which would have ended up around the same amount of protein.

It could be said there are arguments against being vegan, but lack of protein most certainly isn't one of them, it is a 100% invalid argument.

It's a 100% valid argument. The issue is not "any protein" but complete protein.

[allure]

Originally Posted by tenzingnorgay

It's a 100% valid argument. The issue is not "any protein" but complete protein.

That isn't an issue either, as the science in the link I posted proves.

[allure]

Vegetables which contain all 9 essential amino acids, i.e, 'complete proteins'.



Not to mention the inevitable consumption of complete proteins from ingesting various foods which all contain different amino acids.

[tenzingnorgay]

Originally Posted by allure

That isn't an issue either, as the science in the link I posted proves.

You didn't post science. You posted a vegetarian site. There are so many lies on that site that it would take days to analyze them all.

Pinto beans for example are not a complete protein. Most lack methionine. Some have infitessimal amounts of methionine. The chart that accompanies these food proteins fails to clarify that many of these food sources have only infitessimal quantities of some amino acids. Your concept that you will have enough protein if you eat enough food is wrong. If you eat only pinto beans, you will slowly get sick and eventually die. Thats why native Americans combined beans with corn, which has higher levels of methionine. Corn has lower levels of lysine so it combines well with beans. Both have pretty low levels of trytophan, in fact most veggies, excepting soy, have very low levels of tryptophan.

[neutrino]

Originally Posted by tenzingnorgay

What part of it do you like best, the cancer causing chemicals, the neurotoxins or one of the other toxins?

Everythings got bloody toxins in, potatoes have toxins, nuts have toxins, all food seems to be cancer causing if health papers are to be believed. Get over it, things have toxins in them aswell as beneficial things, that's the way nature works ffs.

I've been eating quorn nearly 2 years now and my healths not suffered and I feel great. Those toxins can't be that chuffing dangerous or I'd be in a coffin by now or at the very least hospitalised and yet I'm here in great health and my neurons are all firing just aswell as they always have. I bet I outlive people miles younger than me.