Chemtrails seen from plane cockpit

[eddyke1]

CHEMTRAILS SEEN FROM PLANE COCKPIT - YouTube

CHEMTRAILS SEEN FROM PLANE COCKPIT - YouTube

[rbl_4nik8r]

@ .35 seconds what do you SEE ? Also at 1.00 what do you SEE ?

Also at a few points in the video you see the curvature of the earth and you need to be at lest 40,000 feet to see that or higher, and how cold is it at that altitude ? Oh yea that's right we looking at -70F to -120F and what happens when you add exhaust that's 1,200F or more with water particles ?

Now show me a video of something like that where the planes are under 20,000 feet and then you might have something till then its just propaganda that means nothing.

[ex sheep]

Originally Posted by rbl_4nik8r

@ .35 seconds what do you SEE ? Also at 1.00 what do you SEE ?

Also at a few points in the video you see the curvature of the earth and you need to be at lest 40,000 feet to see that or higher, and how cold is it at that altitude ? Oh yea that's right we looking at -70F to -120F and what happens when you add exhaust that's 1,200F or more with water particles ?

Now show me a video of something like that where the planes are under 20,000 feet and then you might have something till then its just propaganda that means nothing.

Bullshit, not all planes leave "contrails" at fl 35000 and above, I suggest you go out and watch them, I have seen some at the same fl, one has the other doesn't.


You are in the same boat as us, you don't know, but sooner or later this shit is going to come out, and I know which camp I would rather be in.

[rbl_4nik8r]

Originally Posted by ex sheep

Bullshit, not all planes leave "contrails" at fl 35000 and above, I suggest you go out and watch them, I have seen some at the same fl, one has the other doesn't.


You are in the same boat as us, you don't know, but sooner or later this shit is going to come out, and I know which camp I would rather be in.

OK whats bullshit ? and what do you mean by at fl 35,000 ?

You have seen some at the same fl ? flight level ? one has and the other don't. Once again I am not sure what your getting at, but if your on the ground and looking up how can one judge the distance of a plane at 30,000, 35,000 or 40,000 feet that's a mile in between each and I highly doubt you could do such a thing. Add the weather effects can be different at each level. As for the same boat as you, no I disagree a boat in the middle of the desert is useless unless you have a body of water to put it in or have a massive flood and sorry I have neither. Also in the summer time when the humidity is below 10% I don't have long lasting contrails, the next time you go outside and see a chemtrail that's been there a few hours go take a look at the humidity, I would bet its above or close to 75%.

[belch]

Originally Posted by rbl_4nik8r

OK whats bullshit ? and what do you mean by at fl 35,000 ?

You have seen some at the same fl ? flight level ? one has and the other don't. Once again I am not sure what your getting at, but if your on the ground and looking up how can one judge the distance of a plane at 30,000, 35,000 or 40,000 feet that's a mile in between each and I highly doubt you could do such a thing. Add the weather effects can be different at each level. As for the same boat as you, no I disagree a boat in the middle of the desert is useless unless you have a body of water to put it in or have a massive flood and sorry I have neither. Also in the summer time when the humidity is below 10% I don't have long lasting contrails, the next time you go outside and see a chemtrail that's been there a few hours go take a look at the humidity, I would bet its above or close to 75%.

But wasnt it you that explained to us how to do this on another thread ?
Measure the wing etc blah blah.

So aparently you CAN tell the altitude from pictures and film, One of you ever so staunch deniers explained how to do so.

Was either you or silly/stupid or tlzr, So you lot best make up your minds and save contradicting each other.

[stupid]

The OP's video posted takes several videos made by professional pilots observing normal contrails...and leaves their audio comments out, about the normalcy of them ......replacing that audio with music.
Not a truthful account of anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVdnQpNufZc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVdnQpNufZc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzGjyxjkagE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzGjyxjkagE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmTAbbMt8gI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmTAbbMt8gI

[ex sheep]

Originally Posted by rbl_4nik8r

OK whats bullshit ? and what do you mean by at fl 35,000 ?

You have seen some at the same fl ? flight level ? one has and the other don't. Once again I am not sure what your getting at, but if your on the ground and looking up how can one judge the distance of a plane at 30,000, 35,000 or 40,000 feet that's a mile in between each and I highly doubt you could do such a thing. Add the weather effects can be different at each level. As for the same boat as you, no I disagree a boat in the middle of the desert is useless unless you have a body of water to put it in or have a massive flood and sorry I have neither. Also in the summer time when the humidity is below 10% I don't have long lasting contrails, the next time you go outside and see a chemtrail that's been there a few hours go take a look at the humidity, I would bet its above or close to 75%.

Yes fl means flight level
Aircraft traveling north are assigned to a certain altitude, those that fly south east or west are also at a different flight level.
Go and watch 2 planes traveling in the same direction, yes there is a separation distance but they are traveling at the same altitude.
I have watched numerous flights, one has the other doesn't, I have checked this, in fact I look every day. regularly.

[rbl_4nik8r]

Originally Posted by belch

But wasnt it you that explained to us how to do this on another thread ?
Measure the wing etc blah blah.

So aparently you CAN tell the altitude from pictures and film, One of you ever so staunch deniers explained how to do so.

Was either you or silly/stupid or tlzr, So you lot best make up your minds and save contradicting each other.

NOPE it was not me, now what I can tell you is that most if not all commercial air traffic fly's at or above 30,000 feet because its better for them to fly above storms and you have less drag on the plane because the air is thinner the higher you go up. Now you can get Mesocyclones with tops above 40,000 feet but they are rare, most of the time they are under 30,000 feet.

Also I took note to the fact none of you addressed the video or what your seeing at .35 seconds or 1.00 why is that ?

Also as I recall it was one of the chemtrail peeps that knew how to figure out the distance of planes and could judge a plane at 20,000 feet or 40,000 feet, and never did explain that a 737, 767 or 777 could look to be the same plane at different altitudes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tr...ei-cxk_arp.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:G-...0_planform.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ai...v_planform.jpg

Or even better yet have a look here.

[rbl_4nik8r]

Originally Posted by ex sheep

Yes fl means flight level
Aircraft traveling north are assigned to a certain altitude, those that fly south east or west are also at a different flight level.
Go and watch 2 planes traveling in the same direction, yes there is a separation distance but they are traveling at the same altitude.
I have watched numerous flights, one has the other doesn't, I have checked this, in fact I look every day. regularly.

WRONG and this here is total BS, you can not have a 777 flying at say 34,000 feet and then bring a 737 or MD80 with in 4 miles of that at the same altitude plus or minus 1,000 feet or so, there is this thing called wake turbulence and the 747, 757, 767, and 777 would trash any plane at the same height. Also at times this can go out as far as 15 miles, so you could have 2 planes going the same way, but they could be 2,500 to 5,000 feet a part, and yes that distance can make a difference.

Oh and read thru this you might find a few things that can give you answers to this.

http://www.faa.gov/training_testing/...ake/04SEC2.PDF

[ex sheep]

Originally Posted by rbl_4nik8r

WRONG and this here is total BS, you can not have a 777 flying at say 34,000 feet and then bring a 737 or MD80 with in 4 miles of that at the same altitude plus or minus 1,000 feet or so, there is this thing called wake turbulence and the 747, 757, 767, and 777 would trash any plane at the same height. Also at times this can go out as far as 15 miles, so you could have 2 planes going the same way, but they could be 2,500 to 5,000 feet a part, and yes that distance can make a difference.

Oh and read thru this you might find a few things that can give you answers to this.

http://www.faa.gov/training_testing/...ake/04SEC2.PDF

Wrong you separate them horizontally, I watch planes traveling North every day side by side one slightly further back than the other, don't try and tell me what I see.

[rbl_4nik8r]

Originally Posted by ex sheep

Wrong you separate them horizontally, I watch planes traveling North every day side by side one slightly further back than the other, don't try and tell me what I see.

Very true I have no clue what you see so with out a picture or two its meaningless

I can tell you I have blue sky's from end to end now the question is do you believe me ? You could trust me but I doubt that means much, or I could show you out here, I am about 45 mins away from the Grand Canyon and its desert with lots and lots of sun. The thing is its all from your perspective on how you take things, as I shown you planes range in all sizes but do look some what a like, and once you go out a few miles your eyes can't see the best, but I will take your word for it that you know the distance of what you see no matter how far away it is.

Oh crap I forgot about the curvature of the earth and how that can also play into what one sees from the ground, but I guess you can figure that out to nevermind.

[lordzoma]

This video is a fake.

[rbl_4nik8r]

Originally Posted by lordzoma

This video is a fake.

What video is fake and how is it fake ?

[eddyke1]

Originally Posted by lordzoma

This video is a fake.

What fake