Democracy died today in Quebec

nobodyswife · 19-05-2012, 12:27 AM

Not that I don't know that democracy does not exist, that it is all a rotten show, that you all get to choose one freemason or another freemason, left or right they all sleep in the same satan worshipping bed. I've known that for a long while.

This is a major sad day for whatever utopic democracy Quebecers used to enjoy.

It's just that thanks to "James John Charest" that prefers to go by the name Jean Charest; it's more catchy for Quebecers, passed a law that kills the right to free speech, that kills the right to assemble, that kills the right to spontaniously demonstrate your opposition to measures passed by these facists.

I am trying to find an article in the english press right now that denounces this special law that has been compared to Pierre Elliott Trudeau's Wartime Measures law in 1970.

They've killed the right to assemble ? I say fine...Then bust their FREEMASONIC LODGE ON SHERBROOKE STREET

I'll be back, if I can find an article that I can link without giving the Canadian Press (that all belongs to paul desmarais' Gesca group) my shorts and my shirt.

dude111 · 19-05-2012, 07:23 AM

Very sad....

Seems like Canada is becoming like the US!!

ozpixie · 19-05-2012, 07:39 AM

Very sad indeed. Australia is not far behind. We have a State Gov here that is determined to take away the right to silence, they have even tried to pass a law that will have you random drunk tested for walking on the footpath.

dude111 · 19-05-2012, 07:48 AM

Why is anyone NOT taking a stand?

ozpixie · 19-05-2012, 07:51 AM

We are but need numbers.

mmac900 · 19-05-2012, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dude111

Why is anyone NOT taking a stand?

Because it has to get a lot worse before the sheep wake up, sadly.

nobodyswife · 19-05-2012, 12:13 PM

Quebec passes controversial student protest bill
By Kevin Dougherty, GAZETTE QUEBEC BUREAU CHIEF May 18, 2012

Parts removed...

QUEBEC – A bill suspending the academic year at 14 CÉGEPs and 11 universities, where students have been away from class for as long as 14 weeks, was adopted Thursday by the Quebec National Assembly over the objections of the Parti Québécois and its allies.

François Legault’s Coalition Avenir Québec supported the Liberal majority in adopting the bill, which has already raised the ire of striking students, labour unions, the human rights commission and the Quebec Bar, representing 30,000 lawyers in the province.

Premier Jean Charest was present for votes on the bill but did not speak in defence of his government’s action, leaving the task to Michelle Courchesne, sworn in Monday as education minister, after Charest signalled his government was heading for a showdown with the students.

Line Beauchamp, education minister throughout the tuition conflict, starting in 2010, resigned suddenly Monday, saying she was not part of the solution.

Courchesne said Bill 78 was about defending young Quebecers’ right to an education.

The law aims to end class disruptions, which the government insists are boycotts, but student associations, with support from the Quebec Bar Association, call a strike.

Louis Masson, Bâtonnier of the Bar, said Bill 78 does not balance rights, suggesting the government should have taken another course to deal with the tuition-fee dispute.

We have serious concerns about this bill and the bill infringes many of the fundamental rights of our citizens,” Masson said.

“We must respect the rule of law and we must respect the orders of courts and we must also respect all the fundamental rights that we have; the right to peacefully protest, our liberty of expression and the liberty of association.”

In her closing speech, PQ leader Pauline Marois said a future PQ government would abrogate Bill 78.

“It will be the first thing we do,” Marois said. “Then will be abolish the tuition hike.”

There will be consultations on higher education and tuition would be pegged to the cost of living under a PQ government, she added.

Marois also quoted the Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse, which served notice it would investigate any discrimination arising from Bill 78, expressing “serious concerns relative to freedoms and fundamental rights, in particular freedom of opinion, freedom of expression, freedom for peaceful gatherings and freedom of association.”

Courchesne said Bill 78 is about “freedom to study,” and told the assembly it targets hooligans who have committed acts of violence and vandalism.

“The government has chosen the club instead of dialogue and negotiation,” Arseneault said, adding that after two days, the talks were shut off and the only real progress was in a 22-hour negotiating blitz.

The QFL leader said the government, rather than negotiating, presented its proposals in the media without talks.

“It doesn’t take a course in Negotiations 101 to know that communications, meetings between people, is how negotiations succeed.”

Louis Roy, president of the Confédération des syndicats nationaux, called the special bill, adopted at 5:18 p.m. Friday by a vote of 68 to 48, after a process that began at 8 p.m. Thursday and went through the night, a “completely pitiful law, written by impotent uncles.”

Roy said the Liberals are, “unable to understand the generation that will kick them out as quickly as possible.”

“Under the pretext of a right to education we are trampling on fundamental rights, the right to express ourselves publicly at a demonstration,” Roy said.

After amendments, the bill no longer makes it an offence of a student or union leader or association to be fined for “omitting” to stop illegal activity, although the burden of proof remains reversed.

Originally the bill said police must be advised eight hours before a demonstration of 10 people or more. The amended bill raises the threshold to 50 persons.

Read more:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...554/story.html

nobodyswife · 19-05-2012, 12:42 PM

http://fr.canoe.ca/infos/quebeccanad...18-215158.html

All this law has done is divide the people. Most people are not awake enough to realise that their basic rights are being taken away from them.

I hope the link to this video works. The youth in the streets of Montreal after that law was passed.

Because of that law we are facing major civil unrest and that's what freemasons want.

Open the link, scroll down and click on video.

the lost · 19-05-2012, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozpixie

Very sad indeed. Australia is not far behind. We have a State Gov here that is determined to take away the right to silence, they have even tried to pass a law that will have you random drunk tested for walking on the footpath.

Wow how stupid! If someone looks and is acting drunk then ok they already have the powers to arrest that person, but what youve just mentioned there seems like they wanted the right to be able to arrest you just for having alcohol.

About the OP. This is happening all over the western world, sadly. There is no right to protest now when you get told by the guberment and the police when and where to protest.

Me thinks they have closed the barn door before the horse has bolted this time. Something big is coming, it seems they have a lot more planned for us that will take away our rights and put us into more poverty, things that will make us want to protest, by that time we wont be able to protest.

A protest is meant to cause disruption, a protest is meant to be in politicians faces so they can see you protesting, to see youre not happy.

I myself dont think protesting works but i can see and i dont like how they are taking away our rights to show our grievences.

reitze · 19-05-2012, 04:53 PM

It seems like nobody remembers the history of Nazi Germany anymore. Sure I'm too young to remember it either - but I did learn about it in school. But event that either isn't getting taught or the "sheeple" are just so zombified that it doesn't seem to register.

First they came for

(so they change up the targeted groups --- and force "approved" status (pack with the devil) to get jobs as musicians, scientists, teachers, authors... can't work unless they're employed by ...)

tinyint · 19-05-2012, 09:55 PM

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dude111 · 20-05-2012, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmac900

Because it has to get a lot worse before the sheep wake up, sadly.

I just read on another site about this in a thread

Quote:

The majority of the people in Quebec are all for the law

Unreal........

bikerdruid · 20-05-2012, 03:52 AM

Democracy died today in Quebec

......and it is in its death dance in all of canada.

19-05-2012, 12:27 AM	#1
nobodyswife Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,558	Democracy died today in Quebec Not that I don't know that democracy does not exist, that it is all a rotten show, that you all get to choose one freemason or another freemason, left or right they all sleep in the same satan worshipping bed. I've known that for a long while. This is a major sad day for whatever utopic democracy Quebecers used to enjoy. It's just that thanks to "James John Charest" that prefers to go by the name Jean Charest; it's more catchy for Quebecers, passed a law that kills the right to free speech, that kills the right to assemble, that kills the right to spontaniously demonstrate your opposition to measures passed by these facists. I am trying to find an article in the english press right now that denounces this special law that has been compared to Pierre Elliott Trudeau's Wartime Measures law in 1970. They've killed the right to assemble ? I say fine...Then bust their FREEMASONIC LODGE ON SHERBROOKE STREET I'll be back, if I can find an article that I can link without giving the Canadian Press (that all belongs to paul desmarais' Gesca group) my shorts and my shirt. Last edited by nobodyswife; 19-05-2012 at 12:28 AM.

19-05-2012, 07:39 AM	#3
ozpixie Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Down by the sea Posts: 10,308	Very sad indeed. Australia is not far behind. We have a State Gov here that is determined to take away the right to silence, they have even tried to pass a law that will have you random drunk tested for walking on the footpath. __________________ Please don't feed the trolls. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ1ohsissjE Never again will let myself be talked into buying a computer from Dell.

19-05-2012, 07:51 AM	#5
ozpixie Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Down by the sea Posts: 10,308	We are but need numbers. __________________ Please don't feed the trolls. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ1ohsissjE Never again will let myself be talked into buying a computer from Dell.

19-05-2012, 12:42 PM	#8
nobodyswife Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,558	http://fr.canoe.ca/infos/quebeccanad...18-215158.html All this law has done is divide the people. Most people are not awake enough to realise that their basic rights are being taken away from them. I hope the link to this video works. The youth in the streets of Montreal after that law was passed. Because of that law we are facing major civil unrest and that's what freemasons want. Open the link, scroll down and click on video. Last edited by nobodyswife; 19-05-2012 at 12:44 PM.

20-05-2012, 03:52 AM	#13
bikerdruid Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: north peace bioregion of north america's great boreal forest Posts: 9,609	*Democracy died today in Quebec* ......and it is in its death dance in all of canada. __________________ Subvert the Dominant Paradigm!

19-05-2012, 07:23 AM	#2
dude111 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,356	Very sad.... Seems like Canada is becoming like the US!!

19-05-2012, 07:48 AM	#4
dude111 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,356	Why is anyone NOT taking a stand?

19-05-2012, 12:13 PM	#7
nobodyswife Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,558	Quebec passes controversial student protest bill By Kevin Dougherty, GAZETTE QUEBEC BUREAU CHIEF May 18, 2012 Parts removed... QUEBEC – A bill suspending the academic year at 14 CÉGEPs and 11 universities, where students have been away from class for as long as 14 weeks, was adopted Thursday by the Quebec National Assembly over the objections of the Parti Québécois and its allies. François Legault’s Coalition Avenir Québec supported the Liberal majority in adopting the bill, which has already raised the ire of striking students, labour unions, the human rights commission and the Quebec Bar, representing 30,000 lawyers in the province. Premier Jean Charest was present for votes on the bill but did not speak in defence of his government’s action, leaving the task to Michelle Courchesne, sworn in Monday as education minister, after Charest signalled his government was heading for a showdown with the students. Line Beauchamp, education minister throughout the tuition conflict, starting in 2010, resigned suddenly Monday, saying she was not part of the solution. Courchesne said Bill 78 was about defending young Quebecers’ right to an education. The law aims to end class disruptions, which the government insists are boycotts, but student associations, with support from the Quebec Bar Association, call a strike. Louis Masson, Bâtonnier of the Bar, said Bill 78 does not balance rights, suggesting the government should have taken another course to deal with the tuition-fee dispute. We have serious concerns about this bill and the bill infringes many of the fundamental rights of our citizens,” Masson said. “We must respect the rule of law and we must respect the orders of courts and we must also respect all the fundamental rights that we have; the right to peacefully protest, our liberty of expression and the liberty of association.” In her closing speech, PQ leader Pauline Marois said a future PQ government would abrogate Bill 78. “It will be the first thing we do,” Marois said. “Then will be abolish the tuition hike.” There will be consultations on higher education and tuition would be pegged to the cost of living under a PQ government, she added. Marois also quoted the Commission des droits de la personne et des droits de la jeunesse, which served notice it would investigate any discrimination arising from Bill 78, expressing “serious concerns relative to freedoms and fundamental rights, in particular freedom of opinion, freedom of expression, freedom for peaceful gatherings and freedom of association.” Courchesne said Bill 78 is about “freedom to study,” and told the assembly it targets hooligans who have committed acts of violence and vandalism. “The government has chosen the club instead of dialogue and negotiation,” Arseneault said, adding that after two days, the talks were shut off and the only real progress was in a 22-hour negotiating blitz. The QFL leader said the government, rather than negotiating, presented its proposals in the media without talks. “It doesn’t take a course in Negotiations 101 to know that communications, meetings between people, is how negotiations succeed.” Louis Roy, president of the Confédération des syndicats nationaux, called the special bill, adopted at 5:18 p.m. Friday by a vote of 68 to 48, after a process that began at 8 p.m. Thursday and went through the night, a “completely pitiful law, written by impotent uncles.” Roy said the Liberals are, “unable to understand the generation that will kick them out as quickly as possible.” “Under the pretext of a right to education we are trampling on fundamental rights, the right to express ourselves publicly at a demonstration,” Roy said. After amendments, the bill no longer makes it an offence of a student or union leader or association to be fined for “omitting” to stop illegal activity, although the burden of proof remains reversed. Originally the bill said police must be advised eight hours before a demonstration of 10 people or more. The amended bill raises the threshold to 50 persons. Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...554/story.html

19-05-2012, 04:53 PM	#10
reitze Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 25	It seems like nobody remembers the history of Nazi Germany anymore. Sure I'm too young to remember it either - but I did learn about it in school. But event that either isn't getting taught or the "sheeple" are just so zombified that it doesn't seem to register. First they came for (so they change up the targeted groups --- and force "approved" status (pack with the devil) to get jobs as musicians, scientists, teachers, authors... can't work unless they're employed by ...)