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Old 07-02-2011, 01:28 AM   #41
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Old 07-02-2011, 05:54 AM   #42
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So, without ever stopping to examine either of those passages to see what was being said in them, and what was meant by the references, we could conclude that the devil/the satan is somehow associated with light and the sky.
Thanks for your musings mister pickle, though my point was that Satan and Lucifer are both mentioned in the Old Testament. I am however a bit concerned that you chose to respond to me instead of pi3141
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Old 07-02-2011, 08:52 AM   #43
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Thanks for your musings mister pickle, though my point was that Satan and Lucifer are both mentioned in the Old Testament. I am however a bit concerned that you chose to respond to me instead of pi3141
Lucifer happened to be the exact same term used for Jesus, translated wrong in the Latin Vulgate, then carried over to the KJV. So we have modern day folk riding on a mistake and taking it for granted.

For a look at how satan changes through time, here is a look at his description from the OT.
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It was a word, therefore, early used in the sense of an adversary or accuser, and was applied to anyone who sustained this character, until it finally came to be used as a proper name, to denote, by way of eminence, the prince of evil spirits, as the adversary or accuser of people. An opinion has been adopted in modern times by Herder, Eichhorn, Dathe, Ilgen, and some others, that the being here referred to by the name of Satan is not the malignant spirit, the enemy of God, the Devil, but is one of the sons of God, "a faithful, but too suspicious servant of yahweh." According to this, God is represented as holding a council to determine the state of his dominions. In this council, Satan, a zealous servant of yahweh, to whom had been assigned the honorable office of visiting different parts of the earth, for the purpose of observing the conduct of the subjects of yahweh, makes his appearance on his return with others.http://bible.cc/job/1-6.htm
pi3141 mentioned an opinion, which is not the same as attempting to portray a mistake as a fact. Times change, so do the commoners understandings. Which version do you suppose ended up at your house?
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Upon the Bible’s completion in 1611, it adopted a very authoritative name: The Authorized Version.

Despite its popularity at the time, the original King James Bible actually had several thousand errors and mistranslations. Once it went public, many of these errors were marked and corrected.

For instance, a 1631 edition failed to put the word, “not”, in Exodus 20:14, thus reading, “Thou shalt commit adultery.” The edition was coined the “Adultery Bible.”

Eventually, by the late 1700s, most of the kinks were ironed out, and we got what many Christians today consider the greatest translation in the English language.
http://baptistspirituality.wordpress...g-james-bible/
I guess I would wonder what might not have gotten ironed out?
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Most scholars believe that, at some point in history, a scribe added to the text in Luke to make it agree more with Matthew. http://www.inplainsite.org/html/the_...s_version.html
No I don't look at things in literal fashion
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Old 07-02-2011, 02:07 PM   #44
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Cool, I'm glad you agree that Satan apears in the old testament.
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Old 04-05-2012, 05:27 AM   #45
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You have the wrong view about Satan. When he forces you to worship him, you will cry.
I went to him of my own choice. He does not force one to worship him. He is not vain, not like that disgusting Jehovah! Lucifer/Satan forever!

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Old 04-05-2012, 05:37 AM   #46
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"Sorry Jesus, I forgot to add, with regards to all those charlatans like yourself, who are following your example, and preying on the sick, the eldery and the vulnerable, please remove them from the face of the earth immediately. Take your followers and leave. The consequences for failing to comply with my demands will be nuclear genocide and endless war until the last of your kind has been removed from the earth forever."

Hold that thought!

A self proclaimed Communist such as you lucy, should rejoice that there are sick, the eldery and the vulnerable. Without those you would lack converts in your Commie cult.

No one takes the cult of Communism on their own free will.



It has to be forced on people. Communism thrives in death, ignorance, and poverity. Never in afflunce.





The more you find people squashed, and just barely alive is where the cult of Communism thrives.





Wherever people are prospering, the cult of Communism does not exist. So, rejoice in the fact there is human misery lucy.


well, that post didn't work out well, eh?
dude...communism is sharing!
however, i don't think this thread is about communism.
got issues?
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Old 04-05-2012, 05:40 AM   #47
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I was wondering the same thing?

Don't get yourself banned man! I enjoy your posts and threads as they are intelligent, informative and humurous.
agreed.
i find him a breath of reason.
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Old 04-05-2012, 06:06 AM   #48
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well, that post didn't work out well, eh?
dude...communism is sharing!
however, i don't think this thread is about communism.
got issues?
As has already been pointed out to you by others on this forum.....forced sharing is stealing. .....hence, communism is stealing. You can put lipstick on a pig, but ya still got a pig.
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agreed.
i find him a breath of reason.
I fully agree. luciferhorus is one of the most sensible and informative men I know on here! Apart from you, bikerdruid and saint_frankenstein! Oh, and I'll add passerbye999 and exu to that list too!
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As has already been pointed out to you by others on this forum.....forced sharing is stealing. .....hence, communism is stealing. You can put lipstick on a pig, but ya still got a pig.
yes, greedy people hate communism.
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Old 04-05-2012, 06:31 AM   #51
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yes, greedy people hate communism.
No... sensible people hate communism!
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:22 AM   #52
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well, that post didn't work out well, eh?
I would say it worked out great. Especially since you've not been able to dispute anything in my post...... But that's kinda how you operate isn't it, just nag and bitch about another's post?


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dude...communism is sharing!
dude...communism is, forced, armed, robbery.


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however, i don't think this thread is about communism.
Then what are you trolling for?

This thread is a year old (it's older than your membership on this forum) and you opened it just to whine and bitch?
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I would say it worked out great. Especially since you've not been able to dispute anything in my post...... But that's kinda how you operate isn't it, just nag and bitch about another's post?




dude...communism is, forced, armed, robbery.




Then what are you trolling for?

This thread is a year old (it's older than your membership on this forum) and you opened it just to whine and bitch?
i just call 'em as i see 'em.
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:23 PM   #54
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. You can put lipstick on a pig, but ya still got a pig.


But you claim to be a "Christian Libertarian." A black Libertarian who believes in the pro-slavery Bible god is a bit like being a Jewish Communist Nazi.

"Lipstick on a pig" indeed.

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But you claim to be a "Christian Libertarian." A black Libertarian who believes in the pro-slavery Bible god is a bit like being a Jewish Communist Nazi.

"Lipstick on a pig" indeed.
If you actually read my posts instead of spamming this thread with your goofy pictures, you would find, my only relationship with any religion is my belief in Freedom of religion.
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I fully agree. luciferhorus is one of the most sensible and informative men I know on here! Apart from you, bikerdruid and saint_frankenstein! Oh, and I'll add passerbye999 and exu to that list too!
Thanks. You, too, friend.
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LH really? Baphomet? Nice.
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