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From: http://ritualabuse.us/

2012 Ritual Abuse Conference Information http://ritualabuse.us/smart-conference/

Ritual Abuse And Extreme Abuse Clinician’s Conference 2012 http://ritualabuse.us/smart-conferen...nference-2012/

2011 Ritual Abuse Conference CDs http://ritualabuse.us/smart-conference/2011-conference/

Day Care and Child Abuse Cases
This page has information on the McMartin Preschool Case, Michelle Remembers, the Fells Acres – Amirault Case, the Wenatchee, Washington Case, the Dale Akiki Case, the Glendale Montessori – Toward case, the Little Rascals Day Care Center case, Fran’s Day Care case, the Baran case, the Halsey case, the West Memphis 3 case, the Friedman’s case,   the Christchurch Civic Creche sex abuse – Peter Ellis case, the Ramona case and the West Point Day Care Case.  http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...d-abuse-cases/

Wikipedia has a long history of problems with accuracy, bias and allegations of connections to pedophilia and pornography. http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...y-of-problems/

Friedman’s case – Capturing the Friedmans information
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...d-abuse-cases/

Shanley recovered memory case. Shanley lost the appeal in the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...d-memory-case/

Ritualabuse.us has been blacklisted from Wikipedia with three other sites with evidence of child abuse and ritual abuse crimes against children. http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...-by-wikipedia/ We are recommending that people do not use Wikipedia as a resource until all four sites are removed from the blacklist. We are also recommending that people write Wikipedia and let others know about this.

Ritual Abuse, the trenches of the stopping child abuse movement – 2009
Ritual Abuse Conference Presentation by Neil Brick http://ritualabuse.us/smart-conferen...buse-movement/

Why Cults Terrorize and Kill Children – LLOYD DEMAUSE The Journal of Psychohistory 21 (4) 1994 describes graphic crimes of abuse http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...psychohistory/

The Dark Tunnels of McMartin – Dr. Roland C. Summit http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...psychohistory/

Common Programs Observed in Survivors of Satanic Ritualistic Abuse describes crimes of abuse and programming techniques http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...alistic-abuse/

Report of the Ritual Abuse Task Force – Los Angeles County Commission for Women http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...ion-for-women/

Believing Rachel JEANNE HILL The Journal of Psychohistory 24 (2) Fall 1996 describes graphic crimes of abuse http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...psychohistory/
Denying Ritual Abuse of Children – Catherine Gould The Journal of Psychohistory 22 (3) 1995 http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...therine-gould/

The History of Child Abuse - Lloyd deMause http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...psychohistory/

The Universality of Incest – Lloyd DeMause Journal of Psychohistory 19 (2) Winter 1991 http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/th...lloyd-demause/ http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/th...ause-part-two/ http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/th...se-part-three/ http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/th...use-part-four/

Leaving the Family System: An Honorable Choice By Rythea Lee http://ritualabuse.us/research/leavi...orable-choice/

“The Search for Satan”: Fourteen Years Later By Lynn Crook, M.Ed. http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...n-years-later/

False memory syndrome proponents tactics – False memory syndrome proponents have done the following to try and ensure that only their point of view is in the public view. Harassing debate opponents, misrepresenting the data in the field and controlling the media. http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...nents-tactics/

Fran’s Day Care Case - Randy Noblitt, PhD http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...rans-day-care/

Recovered memory corroboration rates There are many studies that show fairly high corroboration rates for recovered memories. http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...oration-rates/

An Interview With the Author of Hell Minus One http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/su...ell-minus-one/

Hell Minus One – signed verified confessions of satanic ritual abuse – Anne’s parents confessed their atrocities – both in writing and verbally. http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/su...-ritual-abuse/

Confessions of a Whistle-Blower: Lessons Learned by Anna C. Salter – Ethics & Behavior, Volume 8, Issue 2 June 1998 , pages 115 – 124 Abstract – In 1988 I began a report on the accuracy of expert testimony in child sexual abuse cases utilizing Ralph Underwager and Hollida Wakefield as a case study. “The argument between the field of child sexual abuse and the backlash against survivors is not an academic debate between two well meaning groups equally invested in ascertaining truth. It is not an academic debate at all; it is a political fight.” P. 121 “What wins political fights is organization and stamina and a refusal to be intimidated.” P. 122 http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...ssons-learned/

Information on Parental Alienation Syndrome http://ritualabuse.us/research/paren...tion-syndrome/

Information on Ralph Underwager http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...ph-underwager/

Information on Paul McHugh http://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/paul-mchugh/

False allegations of child sexual abuse by children are rare “allegations made by child victims match closely with confessions of pedophiles” “The evidence indicates that very few (children) lied originally.” “children tend to minimize and deny abuse, not exaggerate or over-report such incidents” http://ritualabuse.us/research/false...dren-are-rare/

Calof, D.L. (1998). Notes from a practice under siege: Harassment, defamation, and intimidation in the name of science, Ethics and Behavior, 8(2) pp. 161-187. http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...e-under-siege/

Understanding ritual trauma: A comparison of findings from three online surveys Handout for Karriker, Wanda. (2008, November). Understanding ritual trauma: A comparison of findings from three online surveys. Paper presented at the meeting of the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation, Chicago, IL. http://ritualabuse.us/mindcontrol/ea...online-surveys

Ritual abuse diagnosis research http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/st...is-research-2/ excerpt from a chapter in: Lacter, E. & Lehman, K. (2008).Guidelines to Differential Diagnosis between Schizophrenia and Ritual Abuse/Mind Control Traumatic Stress. In J.R. Noblitt & P. Perskin (Eds.), Ritual Abuse in the Twenty-first Century: Psychological, Forensic, Social and Political Considerations, pp. 85-154. Bandon, Oregon: Robert D. Reed Publishers.
A Brief History of the False Memory Research of Elizabeth Loftus Lynn Crook, M.Ed. http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...beth-loftus-2/

Advocacy and Saving Lives – Neil Brick’s Presentation at Indiana University, Professor Pepinsky’s classes – November 11, 2008 http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...-saving-lives/

The Truth about Satanic Ritual Abuse – Wikipedia rebuttal - A Rebuttal to Wikipedia’s Portrayal of Satanic Ritual Abuse – by Wanda Karriker, PhD http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...-ritual-abuse/

New video on youtube – Proof ritual abuse and Satanic ritual abuse exists by Neil Brick http://www.youtube.com/user/stopritualabuse

Other websites with information on ritual abuse and Satanic ritual abuse:
http://childabusedata.blogspot.com/
http://childabusewiki.org
http://eassurvey.wordpress.com/
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From: http://ritualabuse.us/

2012 Ritual Abuse Conference Information http://ritualabuse.us/smart-conference/

Ritual Abuse And Extreme Abuse Clinician’s Conference 2012 http://ritualabuse.us/smart-conferen...nference-2012/

2011 Ritual Abuse Conference CDs http://ritualabuse.us/smart-conference/2011-conference/

Day Care and Child Abuse Cases
This page has information on the McMartin Preschool Case, Michelle Remembers, the Fells Acres – Amirault Case, the Wenatchee, Washington Case, the Dale Akiki Case, the Glendale Montessori – Toward case, the Little Rascals Day Care Center case, Fran’s Day Care case, the Baran case, the Halsey case, the West Memphis 3 case, the Friedman’s case, the Christchurch Civic Creche sex abuse – Peter Ellis case, the Ramona case and the West Point Day Care Case. http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...d-abuse-cases/

Wikipedia has a long history of problems with accuracy, bias and allegations of connections to pedophilia and pornography. http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...y-of-problems/

Friedman’s case – Capturing the Friedmans information
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...d-abuse-cases/

Shanley recovered memory case. Shanley lost the appeal in the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...d-memory-case/

Ritualabuse.us has been blacklisted from Wikipedia with three other sites with evidence of child abuse and ritual abuse crimes against children. http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...-by-wikipedia/ We are recommending that people do not use Wikipedia as a resource until all four sites are removed from the blacklist. We are also recommending that people write Wikipedia and let others know about this.

Ritual Abuse, the trenches of the stopping child abuse movement – 2009
Ritual Abuse Conference Presentation by Neil Brick http://ritualabuse.us/smart-conferen...buse-movement/

Why Cults Terrorize and Kill Children – LLOYD DEMAUSE The Journal of Psychohistory 21 (4) 1994 describes graphic crimes of abuse http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...psychohistory/

The Dark Tunnels of McMartin – Dr. Roland C. Summit http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...psychohistory/

Common Programs Observed in Survivors of Satanic Ritualistic Abuse describes crimes of abuse and programming techniques http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...alistic-abuse/

Report of the Ritual Abuse Task Force – Los Angeles County Commission for Women http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...ion-for-women/

Believing Rachel JEANNE HILL The Journal of Psychohistory 24 (2) Fall 1996 describes graphic crimes of abuse http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...psychohistory/
Denying Ritual Abuse of Children – Catherine Gould The Journal of Psychohistory 22 (3) 1995 http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...therine-gould/

The History of Child Abuse - Lloyd deMause http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...psychohistory/

The Universality of Incest – Lloyd DeMause Journal of Psychohistory 19 (2) Winter 1991 http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/th...lloyd-demause/ http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/th...ause-part-two/ http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/th...se-part-three/ http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/th...use-part-four/

Leaving the Family System: An Honorable Choice By Rythea Lee http://ritualabuse.us/research/leavi...orable-choice/

“The Search for Satan”: Fourteen Years Later By Lynn Crook, M.Ed. http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...n-years-later/

False memory syndrome proponents tactics – False memory syndrome proponents have done the following to try and ensure that only their point of view is in the public view. Harassing debate opponents, misrepresenting the data in the field and controlling the media. http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...nents-tactics/

Fran’s Day Care Case - Randy Noblitt, PhD http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...rans-day-care/

Recovered memory corroboration rates There are many studies that show fairly high corroboration rates for recovered memories. http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...oration-rates/

An Interview With the Author of Hell Minus One http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/su...ell-minus-one/

Hell Minus One – signed verified confessions of satanic ritual abuse – Anne’s parents confessed their atrocities – both in writing and verbally. http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/su...-ritual-abuse/

Confessions of a Whistle-Blower: Lessons Learned by Anna C. Salter – Ethics & Behavior, Volume 8, Issue 2 June 1998 , pages 115 – 124 Abstract – In 1988 I began a report on the accuracy of expert testimony in child sexual abuse cases utilizing Ralph Underwager and Hollida Wakefield as a case study. “The argument between the field of child sexual abuse and the backlash against survivors is not an academic debate between two well meaning groups equally invested in ascertaining truth. It is not an academic debate at all; it is a political fight.” P. 121 “What wins political fights is organization and stamina and a refusal to be intimidated.” P. 122 http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...ssons-learned/

Information on Parental Alienation Syndrome http://ritualabuse.us/research/paren...tion-syndrome/

Information on Ralph Underwager http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...ph-underwager/

Information on Paul McHugh http://ritualabuse.us/research/memory-fms/paul-mchugh/

False allegations of child sexual abuse by children are rare “allegations made by child victims match closely with confessions of pedophiles” “The evidence indicates that very few (children) lied originally.” “children tend to minimize and deny abuse, not exaggerate or over-report such incidents” http://ritualabuse.us/research/false...dren-are-rare/

Calof, D.L. (1998). Notes from a practice under siege: Harassment, defamation, and intimidation in the name of science, Ethics and Behavior, 8(2) pp. 161-187. http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...e-under-siege/

Understanding ritual trauma: A comparison of findings from three online surveys Handout for Karriker, Wanda. (2008, November). Understanding ritual trauma: A comparison of findings from three online surveys. Paper presented at the meeting of the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation, Chicago, IL. http://ritualabuse.us/mindcontrol/ea...online-surveys

Ritual abuse diagnosis research http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/st...is-research-2/ excerpt from a chapter in: Lacter, E. & Lehman, K. (2008).Guidelines to Differential Diagnosis between Schizophrenia and Ritual Abuse/Mind Control Traumatic Stress. In J.R. Noblitt & P. Perskin (Eds.), Ritual Abuse in the Twenty-first Century: Psychological, Forensic, Social and Political Considerations, pp. 85-154. Bandon, Oregon: Robert D. Reed Publishers.
A Brief History of the False Memory Research of Elizabeth Loftus Lynn Crook, M.Ed. http://ritualabuse.us/research/memor...beth-loftus-2/

Advocacy and Saving Lives – Neil Brick’s Presentation at Indiana University, Professor Pepinsky’s classes – November 11, 2008 http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...-saving-lives/

The Truth about Satanic Ritual Abuse – Wikipedia rebuttal - A Rebuttal to Wikipedia’s Portrayal of Satanic Ritual Abuse – by Wanda Karriker, PhD http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/ar...-ritual-abuse/

New video on youtube – Proof ritual abuse and Satanic ritual abuse exists by Neil Brick http://www.youtube.com/user/stopritualabuse

Other websites with information on ritual abuse and Satanic ritual abuse:
http://childabusedata.blogspot.com/
http://childabusewiki.org
http://eassurvey.wordpress.com/
Is this all you ever do? Frankly, it's getting boring. I want threads that are thought-provoking and strike up HEALTHY debate...threads that discuss proper material, not just a bunch of random links.

Threads that repeatedly bash a dead horse that's going to stay dead are stupid. You can't bash it and expect it to come back to life, can you?

Is there any SOLID proof that SRA exists? We know that CRA exists. CRA would include pedo priests molesting children. As a Satanist, I'm yet to see any solid evidence. Namely, evidence which has not been disproved at some time or another.

Beat the horse. It won't wake up. It's dead remember? You're going on ignore...goodbye, troll! And good riddance!
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:21 AM   #3
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Is this all you ever do? Frankly, it's getting boring. I want threads that are thought-provoking and strike up HEALTHY debate...threads that discuss proper material, not just a bunch of random links.

Threads that repeatedly bash a dead horse that's going to stay dead are stupid. You can't bash it and expect it to come back to life, can you?

Is there any SOLID proof that SRA exists? We know that CRA exists. CRA would include pedo priests molesting children. As a Satanist, I'm yet to see any solid evidence. Namely, evidence which has not been disproved at some time or another.

Beat the horse. It won't wake up. It's dead remember? You're going on ignore...goodbye, troll! And good riddance!
What do you consider solid evidence? Is not the testimony of thousands of diagnosed SANE individuals enough for you?

Do you want knives covered in blood, bones, bodies, robes, altars, photo's etc?

There are plenty of photo's, video etc. taken of abuse at satanic ritual. These feed the 'snuff movie' market and are sold for big money to wealthy customers. The police have many in their possession, but you're not going to see them on the net.

Satanists are expert at covering their tracks. There are people trained to set up rituals and those trained to clean up afterward. They are METICULOUS in their attention to detail. They ALMOST NEVER leave traces of blood or bones lying around!

Having said that their have been ritual sites found. Bones too. May I remind you that there is a coverup that goes all the way to the top. NOTHING is more fiercely guarded than satanic ritual.

The best evidence is the testimony of THOUSANDS of SANE individuals a great deal of them have been DIAGNOSED as such.

If that's not enough for you, then I give up. Thankfully there are enough people waking up around me to know my efforts are not in vain!
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What do you consider solid evidence? Is not the testimony of thousands of diagnosed SANE individuals enough for you?

Do you want knives covered in blood, bones, bodies, robes, altars, photo's etc?

There are plenty of photo's, video etc. taken of abuse at satanic ritual. These feed the 'snuff movie' market and are sold for big money to wealthy customers. The police have many in their possession, but you're not going to see them on the net.

Satanists are expert at covering their tracks. There are people trained to set up rituals and those trained to clean up afterward. They are METICULOUS in their attention to detail. They ALMOST NEVER leave traces of blood or bones lying around!

Having said that their have been ritual sites found. Bones too. May I remind you that there is a coverup that goes all the way to the top. NOTHING is more fiercely guarded than satanic ritual.

The best evidence is the testimony of THOUSANDS of SANE individuals a great deal of them have been DIAGNOSED as such.

If that's not enough for you, then I give up. Thankfully there are enough people waking up around me to know my efforts are not in vain!
satanist are sick christians actually(mainly the generational sacrifice type) but not all human sacrifices are "satanic" the bloodthirsty gods goes way older than that, for example mystical rabbies still offer blood to jehova till this day.
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satanist are sick christians actually(mainly the generational sacrifice type) but not all human sacrifices are "satanic" the bloodthirsty gods goes way older than that, for example mystical rabbies still offer blood to jehova till this day.
Satanists are not necessarily sick Christians. I'm Satanist and I don't feel the need to really bash the bible or Christians very much anymore. It's already been torn to shreds enough times. As a Satanist, I look towards the pagan traditions. Remember: any of the pagan gods were classed as demons, devils, whatever. So I guess it seemed appropriate! SRA has not solid proof anyway...

I'll bash a Christian or the Bible though if they bash the pagan traditions or bring up SRAs. That's the only thing I'm going to do...except when someone else like luciferhorus or saint_frankenstein puts up a nice chat and I'm interested in joining in!
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Anything that is child abuse or so-called ritual abuse can be called Satanic - even if it had NOTHING to do with Satanism. The whole "Satan made me do it" excuse has been used many times to try and push the blame from themselves. They were the perpetrators, not Satan. Did the abusers have proof that it was Satanic other than a mere, easy-to-say claim? Just because they claim it's something doesn't mean shit unless it can be proven somehow beyond a claim. I do not endorse or say that the abuse was good - in fact, it's horrifying - but calling it Satanic is merely an excuse these abusers made to try and make their sick behavior seem as if it wasn't their fault when in fact it was! That's the sad bit...
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SOURCE: http://altreligion.about.com/od/satanism/f/SRA.htm

Question:
How Prevalent is Satanic Ritual Abuse?
Answer: Satanic Ritual Abuse, or SRA, is essentially a myth. While self-styled Satanists occasionally commit brutal crimes, these are the result of disturbed individuals whose beliefs often have little in common with mainline Satanists.
The accusation of an organized group of Satanists perpetuating sexual, physical or emotional abuse upon victims has never been substantiated. Thus, the FBI has concluded that SRA is a myth, and stories of SRA were largely generated and circulated during the Satanic Panic.

Common Accusations

Supposed SRA victims are most commonly women or children. Victims are allegedly brought to a ritual location where a number of injustices might be visited upon them, including:
  • Forced drug use
  • Rape or sexual molestation
  • Torture and terrorization
  • Brainwashing to indoctrinate victims in Satanic beliefs
  • Murder, or being forced to commit murder upon another
  • Cannibalism

Lack of Evidence

There are a variety of reasons why the FBI remains skeptical of such claims. First, many victims only come forward years after the alleged crime took place, claiming to have discovered "repressed memories." These memories most commonly come out during therapy, and psychologists now believe that many supposed SRA victims are actually the victims of leading questions posed by their own therapists who impress false memories into a vulnerable psyche. The stories presented by victims are generally lacking in detail. The only details of rituals provided are often what can be found in books or in horror movies.
When multiple victims are alleged, the stories of individuals do not agree with the stories of any other victim.
Physical evidence is largely or entirely absent. No location can be found that bears any suggestion that it witnessed a Satanic ritual, or any other kind of ritual, for that matter, even when accusations are made soon after the supposed abuse took place.
People tell stories of ritual murder, yet no one is reported missing and no corpse is discovered. Indeed, people who are convinced of a wide Satanic conspiracy cite annual number of child victims in the tens of thousands (or even greater), while missing person reports can only account for a tiny fraction of that number.

Real Satanic Practices

The practices of mainline Satanists, whether LaVeyan Satanists or other varieties, have no use for the horrific actions suggested in SRA. Many so not believe in any actual being called Satan. Even those who do believe in such a being do not envision him as Christians do. He does not thrive on suffering, human blood or perversion. The accusations of SRA are just as abhorrent to these Satanists as they are to everyone else.

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not sure about your argument, but ritual abuse is real as fuk it though happens all around defending the status quo position on it is just a disgrace and injustice but the time is now that the evil snakes in there roles would trip over themselves with there desperate coverups the walls are falling on there skulls pretty soon it will be out in the open and little secret societys will start pointing there dirty fingers at each other. anyway its like calling a pentecostal a catholic(would be the wrong move with some of these folk hah) people on the outside label it "christianity" also christian science/mormons is a whole other thing yet falls under the christian umbrella, satanism then is just another religion, as it follows a very similar branching with extremist and peaceful types and a whole bunch of different "sects"...if you truly worship an ancient god or pagan gods thats ok, but imo its ridiculous to put the satanic label on that cause thats what a christian would do as well...
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not sure about your argument, ritual abuse is real as fuk it though happens all around. its like calling a pentecostal a catholic people on the outside label it christianity also christian science/mormons is a whole other thing yet falls under the christian umbrella, satanism then is just another religion, as it follows a very similar braching with extremist and peaceful types and a whole bunch of different "sects" also...
Yes, Satanism has sects. Ritual Abuse IS real, but the ritual abuse is mostly, as far as I can tell, being attributed to self-proclaimed "Satanists" who use the "The devil made me do it" excuse, when in fact they know well what they are doing! These maniacs do it of their own volition and do it, not because Satan told them to do it, but because THEY wanted to! Do you get my argument now, realy? Ritual abuse is real, but it is mostly *falsely* attributed to self-proclaimed "Satanists". Do you get it?
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Yes, Satanism has sects. Ritual Abuse IS real, but the ritual abuse is mostly, as far as I can tell, being attributed to self-proclaimed "Satanists" who use the "The devil made me do it" excuse, when in fact they know well what they are doing! These maniacs do it of their own volition and do it, not because Satan told them to do it, but because THEY wanted to! Do you get my argument now, realy? Ritual abuse is real, but it is mostly *falsely* attributed to self-proclaimed "Satanists". Do you get it?
I can see your argument and quite agree with it. I have been asked to look into cases here in Sussex which people have claimed to be 'Satanic' in nature but quite often it is just sick people doing sick things to animals (beheading being a popular one). I think that the media have made Satanism an excuse for these people and in order to understand the whole subject better I think people need to think for themselves and research the subject, or better speak to people who are in the know. Only then I believe can people make a judgement as to what is connected to Satanism and blame Satanists...I know some Satanists and although I might not agree with them on things they are not nasty people.

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I can see your argument and quite agree with it. I have been asked to look into cases here in Sussex which people have claimed to be 'Satanic' in nature but quite often it is just sick people doing sick things to animals (beheading being a popular one). I think that the media have made Satanism an excuse for these people and in order to understand the whole subject better I think people need to think for themselves and research the subject,

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That's exactly what we've been doing. And we have drawn a clear satanic connection to child abuse and child murder.

It's all on these threads, in text and video form.

What 'research' have you done? Where is it?


Your claim that satanists are not nasty people is pretty worthless and totally subjective opinion based hearsay.
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That's exactly what we've been doing. And we have drawn a clear satanic connection to child abuse and child murder.

It's all on these threads, in text and video form.

What 'research' have you done? Where is it?


Your claim that satanists are not nasty people is pretty worthless and totally subjective opinion based hearsay.

You may have drawn a clear connection to child abuse and child murder, I am sure it does go on, however I was agreeing with his comment about people using 'Satan made me do it' as an excuse. When I have more time I will have a look at some of your threads. My research is not for public release because at the moment I cannot connect anything I have investigated to a Satanic Cult Group or person and I will not share anything that is not worth sharing. The animals I have seen which are supposed to have been killed by Satanists have 'in my opinion' been killed by sickos and mutilated for their enjoyment as none have shown signs of having being used for a Ritual.

I would also point out I did not say 'all' Satanists are nasty people but the ones I have met were not.

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"TOP PEOPLE & THE 'SATANIC SEX CULT"


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"TOP PEOPLE & THE 'SATANIC SEX CULT"


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You're still pounding a dead horse? I'm saying nothing more...you lot just never give up...urgh...
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You're still pounding a dead horse? I'm saying nothing more...you lot just never give up...urgh...
till there is justice or real change in the world one must never give up.
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till there is justice or real change in the world one must never give up.
What justice? What is justice to you? Having Christianity take over the world? Pagan religion is FAR more peaceful than brutal Christianity! Real change to you is having the whole world become Christian? Right? I will never give up until I see the Vatican in ruin...and all the evil sick "born-again" arsehole's and the sick so-called "Elite" all dead!
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What justice? What is justice to you? Having Christianity take over the world? Pagan religion is FAR more peaceful than brutal Christianity! Real change to you is having the whole world become Christian? Right? I will never give up until I see the Vatican in ruin...and all the evil sick "born-again" arsehole's and the sick so-called "Elite" all dead!
trust me you dont know who you are talking to like that, we arent so different "I will never give up until I see the Vatican in ruin...and all the evil sick "born-again" arsehole's and the sick so-called "Elite" all dead!" im on the same wave basicaly except i will add the bigger fish are the judeo talmudic-masonic subverters of political and corporate/finance structures as they do own the vatican for sure now, the pedophilia based blackmail operations started within the RCC and that model has beeen used to infest the rest of the worlds governments through secret society groups, its obvious now as they are making themselves so visible on a global scale this will be there undoing my friend.
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trust me you dont know who you are talking to like that, we arent so different "I will never give up until I see the Vatican in ruin...and all the evil sick "born-again" arsehole's and the sick so-called "Elite" all dead!" im on the same wave basicaly except i will add the bigger fish are the judeo talmudic-masonic subverters of political and corporate/finance structures as they do own the vatican for sure now, the pedophilia based blackmail operations started within the RCC and that model has beeen used to infest the rest of the worlds governments through secret society groups, its obvious now as they are making themselves so visible on a global scale this will be there undoing my friend.
Maybe I was a little harsh...sorry. I would add psychotic Zionists to the list as well. Not necessarily the Jews as a whole. Not all of them believe the Zionist bullshit, thankfully. Seeing the Vatican in ruins and all of the stuff hidden inside, and seeing Israel destroyed and Palestine returned to what it was would make my day. Oh, and let's not forget the insane Globalists. All Zionists and Globalists need to die. May sound over the top, but I've heard enough about these sicko's to know they're never gonna change...only way is for them to die...

As for the Vatican...over the past few days I've been wondering...I was thinking about whether the Vatican was the one that started and and helped fund all this crap...they and the Zionists ARE in the same boat...the Globalists, collectively.
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This can give you a little more backround on the history of blood rituals involving children revolving around the western elites and aristocracy.
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"In the 13th century, a text appeared called the Sefer ha-bahir ("Book of Brightness") also known as Sefer ha-zohar (Book of Splendour), which greatly influenced the subsequent development of Jewish esoteric mysticism and Judaism in general. The tract strongly reiterated the concept whereby the sefirot was implemental in creating and sustaining the universe. This doctrine of creation was built on a theory of emanations which declared that the cosmos evolved from the transcendent and unknowable God through a series of increasingly material manifestations (sefirot). It also introduced into Judaism such notions as the transmigration of souls (gilgul) as well as strengthening the foundations of the Kabbalah by providing it with an extensive mystical symbolism. It also furnished a mystical Hebrew study of methods for controlling spirits and demons. Kabbalistic interest was at first was confined to a select few but it became the preoccupation of large numbers of Sephardic Jews following their expulsion from Spain and Portugal in the late fifteenth century. The modern Kabbalistic school was inaugurated by Isaac Ben Solomon Luria (1534-72) eponymous founder of the Lurianic school of Kabbalah which was organised into a practical system by the Hasidim (hasid, "pious one" or "steadfast") of Eastern Europe. Whose first apostle and its most important propagator was Baer (Dob) of Meseritz (1710-72).

Hasidim is a pietistic movement began in the 18th century that was a reaction against an orthodox religious system that had, it asserted, become rigidly legalistic and the spiritual yearnings of the common people ignored. Hasidism subordinated Talmudic learning to emotionalism and anti-intellectualism and appealed directly to the simple folk. Shouting, dancing, singing, wild movements of the body, and intoxicating drink formed part of communal services, which was designed to produce sudden bursts of rapturous prayer and induce states of religious ecstasy. The Talmudic educated rabbinate eventually turned on the Hasidim and excommunicated the practitioners for their practical repudiation of traditional Judaism, for pantheistic tendencies, for the adoption of esoteric Kabbalistic teachings, and for undue veneration of the Hasidic leaders. The Hasidim also refined the Kabbalah for the writing of amulets, the conjuration of devils, incantations, seals and mystical trickery with numbers, letters and names. It was from this stream of occult wisdom, from Hebrew grimoires, that Gilles de Rais obtained his demonic inspiration for the magical blood-rites in which he destroyed hundreds of children, but which eventually consumed his soul.

The efficacy of the Hebrew Kabbalah and the temporal ambitions of its Jewish practitioners soon secured access for them and their Black Arts to certain parts of European aristocracy. Thus, a medieval phenomenon arose: the court Jew. These Jewish Kabbalists were men who had ingratiated themselves with the rulers of society by offering to provide them with empirical methods that promised to give some measure of control of the physical world that contrasted favourably with the quackeries offered by the monks. They also offered to provide the spiritual secrets of the Kabbalah, of which they regarded their race as the sole repository. Thus, the Jews, as the most faithful trustees of the secrets of the Kabbalah, were almost always the great masters of magic, of the Black Arts, in the Middle Ages. That is why many rulers and their courts employed Jews for their occult knowledge and their apparent skill in casting horoscopes, spells, incantations and their supposed command over demons. It is from this Luciferian source that Gilles de Rais acquired his grotesque formulas for using the blood of murdered children to find favour with the Dark Gods. It is also from this Luciferian source that the Rothschild Dynasty and others derived their power.

The Kabbalah is therefore the science of demoniacal arts of which the Jews were the initiators as well as the most faithful trustees of its secrets. The magical blood-rites practised in the medieval period in Europe were therefore attributed to Jewish inspiration. Yet, its proponents have deliberately exaggerated the profundity of the Kabbalah. It is not as ancient or as profound as it has been promoted. For instance, the profundity attached to the Kabbalah's treatment of Creation and its reverence of "number" is an artificially invented liaison by Hasidic Jews in the sixteenth century. It arises from the medieval occult fascination with order and structure that is contained in the architecture (especially the cathedral), music and the preoccupation with Pythagorean theory. This is a response to the medieval religious viewpoint that held that Hell, home of the Lord of Chaos, is a pit, the infernal (inferior) depths, or the abyss, which is waiting for those that "fall down." The only remedy is faith in God, blind faith in the Church and the continual striving to create and maintain order from apparent chaos. This, of course, is an unconscious response to a pale knowledge of the initial lifting of Creation out of the Primordial Sea of Chaos. Evil energises whatever force or being that seeks to reverse this Act of Creation, who seek to turn order into chaos and suffocate the the life force with inertia."
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