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Old 04-05-2012, 03:03 AM   #141
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Like your style bud, starve them all! I, however like the paper battle with them!
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:53 PM   #142
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Moobs, do you think that I just created all of this out of my own imagination? If so then there is no point in further discussion.
I don't think that you made it up, but I do think it's very likely that you misunderstood the law as it applied to your case, as well as the legal significance of the results.
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Old 13-05-2012, 08:11 PM   #143
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just been announced that in ne lincs here 8000 people havnt paid it from 2011, they are concerned and asked why so many, the people responded saying they cant afford it and are spending it more on food and utilities ...
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Old 13-05-2012, 08:20 PM   #144
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I don't think that you made it up, but I do think it's very likely that you misunderstood the law as it applied to your case, as well as the legal significance of the results.
Moobs, I have not misunderstood anything, they misunderstood the fact that one of Joe public would actually challenge them on it. The law as applied is infact a statute and thus has no force in law once challnged by one who does not offer consent. It is certainly interesting that you mention the law and then refer to the legal implications for my case. There was no case as it did not reach court, this was well stopped on numerous occassions, therefore legal did not apply and as such there were no ramifications apart from them leaving me well alone which is all that I aimed to achieve.

Moonflower, take the blinkers off please and read the whole thread before piping up with such inane BS!

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Old 13-05-2012, 08:29 PM   #145
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Moobs, I have not misunderstood anything, they misunderstood the fact that one of Joe public would actually challenge them on it. The law as applied is infact a statute and thus has no force in law once challnged by one who does not offer consent. It is certainly interesting that you mention the law and then refer to the legal implications for my case. There was no case as it did not reach court, this was well stopped on numerous occassions, therefore legal did not apply and as such there were no ramifications apart from them leaving me well alone which is all that I aimed to achieve.

Moonflower, take the blinkers off please and read the whole thread before piping up with such inane BS!
'calvi36', I thought that you had been banned?

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Old 13-05-2012, 08:31 PM   #146
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'calvi36', I thought that you had been banned?

Interesting IQ, wonder why I would be banned and then possibly unbanned, care to enlighten me?
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Old 13-05-2012, 08:34 PM   #147
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Interesting IQ, wonder why I would be banned and then possibly unbanned, care to enlighten me?
Ha ha.

How's that snake oil selling these days?
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Old 13-05-2012, 08:35 PM   #148
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Ha ha.

How's that snake oil selling these days?
I would not know as I sell a service to clients that has absolutely nothing to do with Freeman nor Sovereign stuff, ie a legitimate business to companies worldwide.
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Old 14-05-2012, 12:47 AM   #149
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Moobs, I have not misunderstood anything, they misunderstood the fact that one of Joe public would actually challenge them on it. The law as applied is infact a statute and thus has no force in law once challnged by one who does not offer consent. It is certainly interesting that you mention the law and then refer to the legal implications for my case. There was no case as it did not reach court, this was well stopped on numerous occassions, therefore legal did not apply and as such there were no ramifications apart from them leaving me well alone which is all that I aimed to achieve.

Moonflower, take the blinkers off please and read the whole thread before piping up with such inane BS!
Okay, so you have no evidence, and you are continuing to repeat fallacies that judges have soundly rejected in the past. That tells me all I need to know about your credibility.
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Old 14-05-2012, 08:36 AM   #150
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from http://www.newstruth.co.uk/council-t...-unlawful-tax/


If you look at a Council Tax statement or invoice it will be threatening in manner and it will never mention the word bill. If you owe someone or a corporation any money for services rendered then they will always send a bill, you do not have to pay anyone or “thing” any monies unless presented with a bill
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re. the above.

It appears you are saying that any demand for payment must contain the word "bill" otherwise there is no liability. Are you claiming this is a principle in law or is this something you have made up? If you are claiming this to be a principle in law, please provide a cite.

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Old 17-05-2012, 03:53 PM   #151
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@ calvi36:
re. the above.

It appears you are saying that any demand for payment must contain the word "bill" otherwise there is no liability. Are you claiming this is a principle in law or is this something you have made up? If you are claiming this to be a principle in law, please provide a cite.

Still no answer. How strange.

I wonder if he will come back again, like a bad penny, or should I say, cent?

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Old 22-05-2012, 02:50 PM   #152
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f you look at a Council Tax statement or invoice it will be threatening in manner and it will never mention the word bill. If you owe someone or a corporation any money for services rendered then they will always send a bill, you do not have to pay anyone or “thing” any monies unless presented with a bill


why do fmotl keep posting things that are demonstrably false. it is like they do not even bother to cheek such documents or hope that their followers will be to dumb to check. same as the all caps birth certificate. the gurus dont appear to think too highly of their customers.

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Old 23-05-2012, 01:29 PM   #154
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must be photoshop....lol



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Old 23-05-2012, 03:03 PM   #155
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must be photoshop....lol



Whether it is or not is irrelevant.
I am still waiting to see some case law that supports the notion that unless a demand for payment contains the word "bill" no liability exists.
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Old 23-05-2012, 09:26 PM   #156
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must be photoshop....lol



Yeah because.Gov sites photo shop their concil tax bills to look like bills? You would believe anything to keep this conspiracy going, any how as rumple pointed out it is irrelevent. Just wanted to point out that fmotl really should check info before puting their faith in conmen

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Old 04-06-2012, 09:59 PM   #157
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I have recently moved house and I could not prove anything due to a machine being in storage and also hard copies not being available. I have now retrieved what I needed and updated the newstruth with some facts guys. http://www.newstruth.co.uk/council-t...ing-no-update/ I am not your enemy, I guess that I just fight in other ways.

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Old 04-06-2012, 10:12 PM   #158
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Yeah because.Gov sites photo shop their concil tax bills to look like bills? You would believe anything to keep this conspiracy going, any how as rumple pointed out it is irrelevent. Just wanted to point out that fmotl really should check info before puting their faith in conmen
yeah...amazing how many people can't spot sarcasm...even when the proper emoticons are used...LOL
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:18 PM   #159
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yeah...amazing how many people can't spot sarcasm...even when the proper emoticons are used...LOL
Sometimes the truth hurts Rev
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:19 PM   #160
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TBH, those letters look fake.
Council officials dont make comments like
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"Nulla Bona" I agree with you it's completely daft to quote it
Anyone with half a brain wouldn't write something like that.
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Apology, I hope you will agree that I am making a full apology in this letter.


PS I have just e-mailed Gareth Evans to verify this letter, I will report back when I get a response.

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