Sleep paralysis

[h0rsie]

Sorry I haven't been keeping this thread updated. Last night I had a very weird SP experience. I kept going into it and pulling myself out of paralysis and every time, I noticed there were things behind me grabbing me. Eventually I got tired of the whole routine so I just stayed in SP. I couldn't see anything but I could hear people talking all around me. There was a conversation between a man and woman going on to me left. I wasn't paying around to that though because I could feel hands grabbing me and wrapping their arms around me. That kind thing always happens in SP but what made this unusual is the things behind me were actually talking this time. That has never happened before. They sounded like children or something, they were half whispering. At one point I heard what sounded like a 12 year old girl half whispering. She sounded behind me but I heard it in my left ear. I heard exactly what she said so I pulled myself out of paralysis and wrote it down. Heres what it says "hes a college student, he will enter the industry, I will feed his instincts". I am a college student but have no idea what the part about feeding instincts means.

[harisma]

I heard a lot of times that demons are feeding from sexual desire.

Last time I had SP, I experienced presence of two enteties. One was friendly woman's voice, the other was demonic trying to break my connection with her. She told me that everything I see in this world is a lie (It reminded me on Davide Icke's lectures), than that demonic entety separated us.

[lostwonderer]

I used to experience SP quite regularly, and then managed to minimise the occurances by sorting out my sleeping position. It was almost always the same sensation; a state of constant dread and fear, with the presence of a dark figure/entity. The majority of the time, I could ususally sense whether it was male or female. All the while, I was completely aware of my surroundings, so it'd always take place in the room I'd be sleeping in.
When asleep, avoid placing your hands/arms over your chest/heart. I know at times you can't control this, so when you do suffer from sleep paralysis, you have to try and relax your mind, and force yourself to get out of that position. You could also try saying a little prayer in your mind. I've recently began to experience SP again, I had it twice in one night a couple of days ago. It is extremely difficult to get out off, I still struggle, but you just have conjure up your strength and use it to your advantage.

I had one frightening yet odd experience a few years ago, and to this day I still don't know what happened, but I'm certain it wasn't SP. I was asleep in bed, where I was again fully aware of where I was. There was a black shadow, in the shape of a person, yet there were no facial or body features. It was hovering above me, and at this point I panicked and tried to turn around and switch the light on. It was just something that I felt I needed to do. It pushed me down at this instance, so I tried again and again and again, and it continued to push me down on the bed. This is a little difficult to explain, but during the whole situation I felt as though I could see myself, yet at the same time I was also experiencing the event. I thought it was an OBE but still uncertain. Anyway, on the last attempt I eventually somehow managed to get the strength, and forced myself to get up quickly and switch the light on. It was at this point that I woke up. I had another similar experience a few weeks after, but it wasn't exactly on the scale of this.
I should note, I also used to see shadow people at this time, but I was always fully awake, and they were usually just black shapeless forms that would float around, not really harmful. So I don't think it would fall under that phenomenon.

Any ideas?

[lordzoma]

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=36044

Originally Posted by lordzoma

I noticed many people tend to complain about sleep paralysis. First I will explain what it is, and then I will tell you how to solve the problem.

What Sleep Paralysis Is

Almost every night when you go to sleep your energy will exit your body, primarily through your solar plexus, and go off into the astral where you experience the dreams that aren't completely internalized.

When you are in dreamstate and in deeper sleep, your body turns off your control over your muscles. This is what prevents most types of sleepwalking.

Sleep Paralysis occurs when your energy returns into your body and you attain consciousness but your brain has not yet changed its brain waves and has not yet re-enabled control over your muscles.

Most people will experience the inability to move or speak. Darkness is a common theme. There is a strong fear that can accompany this sensation.

This is the time that negative astral spirits can most easily manipulate you, and harness that fear. This is the time most people experience entities around them, standing near them. They are not always negative and can simply be spirits in your room, but the fear of not being able to move can be overpowering.

The simple ALWAYS effective 100% solution:

People give credit to external objects. Garlic. Covering mirrors. Etc. I can say that having a mirror in your bedroom reflecting you has a tendency to give you a less restful sleep, as outlined in feng shui.

There is an internal solution, that is applicable, which will GET YOU OUT of the sleep paralysis every single time, whether there is a negative spirit messing with you or not. It is simple, and it always works.


Concentrate on ONE finger. Any finger. I'd go with the pointer finger on your dominant hand.

Focus on it and put all of your effort into wiggling it. Don't give up. Once you wiggle that finger, wiggle your hand. Concentrate on moving your hand. Then move your arm. Wiggle your arm. Shake your arm. Move your body, and you're out.

Congratulations, you've just said a big Piss Off to any negative spirit harnessing the fear caused by sleep paralysis and have just taken your power back.

It works every time.

Enjoy!

It's also useful to burn sage, and have some orgonite around the house. Black Tourmaline is a great stone as well.

[sleepp]

It would seem logical that being aware along with fear and panic would be enough to wake you from a deep sleep, but they are not. It requires a technique you have taught yourself to break it. Also, things that are physical can snap you out of SP in an instant. For example, someone comes into your room, an alarm clock goes off, or the telephone rings.

For me the fear is the biggest mystery of SP. Why is there always that sense of fear? What is fear? Is it some sort of a sixth sense to protect us? Or is an animal instinct we must learn to abandon? The less I fear, the more I see.

[zegzy]

Originally Posted by pheony

I used to get it all the time .....It's bloody terrifying.

Touch wood....haven't had it for quite a while now.

+1 I've experienced it on a few occasions and the first time it occurred, my mind couldn't fathom at all what i was experiencing. I can only describe it as feeling as what i imagine it may feel like to be locked in a straight jacket. It hasn't happened for a few years now and hopefully never again.

[explorationer]

I have regularly experianced SP episodes for about 15 years and after loosing the fear have recently found this state a springboard for AP experiances.

[harry501]

It's horrid, but you can get used to it. I just wait for it to pass thesedays.... although the odd time it takes a bit too long and i panic a little. Saying "wake up" just panics me

[explorationer]

Am beggining to think there is more to the SP experiance than just your mind waking up before your body.

Anyone know if there is documentation/record to say these experiances have been happening to people over history and not just quite recent......20/30 years ect!

[harry501]

I've never had any halluciantions e.g the demon at the end of the bed, but I believe 100% those who say they have.

It really frightened the hell out of me when it firast happerned, but i had a painkiller addiction that i thought was to blame. As I read up about it, i realised it wasn't just me.

To sum it up, it's like sleeping normal, but your eyes are wide open and they can see. It sometimes is just the wall you may be looking at or ceiling, so you might not even realise you're just staring at a point in the room you don't normally pay attention to. But quickly you're eyes open up to their surroundings and you realise you're frozen.

In tiem you know to tell yourself you'll wake up from it soon enough. You MUSt do everything in your power NOt to get panicy though. Stay in control and you're body WILL do as it is told.

Hope this helps anyone who suffres from these episodes. They go away once you regain control.

[magritte]

Originally Posted by explorationer

Anyone know if there is documentation/record to say these experiances have been happening to people over history and not just quite recent......20/30 years ect!

Yes a famous oil painting
Henry Fuseli - The Nightmare

[magritte]

I used to get sleep paralysis if I had a lucid dream and became 'far too self aware' in the dream. I read if this happens you should spin round in the dream and it seemed to work.

Apart from the first time I had sleep paralysis which was obviously quite scary, I found out I could eventually leave my body again and walk around my house, though when I was near my body I couldnt 'see' anything.

The whole thing was weird but strangely consistent.

[summers444]

My first post here was about my SP experiences. I have them a lot, but it was one experience that brought me here. It's funny, because it was before I knew about this reptilian/alien thing going on here! Yet during that experience, I saw a reptile entity. It stood in the center of room, asking me to offer up my soul. Of course I was freaking out, so I pulled myself out of it. Seconds later, I feel as though I am being dragged out of bed. At the end of the bed I see two glowing figures. Freak out once again and pull out. For the final time that night, I saw a grey on my bed...who looked at me when I looked at it.

I don't know if these are real experiences, but they are strange. I had, what I believe, my first out of body experience during SP the other night. I felt as though I were flying to floor, then I floated up. I saw myself...on my bed!! It was unreal. And when I wanted to go back, I did.

Like I said, don't know if these are real experiences...but they have made me wonder. Why do I get them all the time? I don't take medication, and I've experienced SP since I was 12. Meh, either way, it is fascinating in a way.

[h0rsie]

I took benzodiazepines on and off for about 8 months and after quitting them, I stopped getting sleep paralysis. I'm sure theres a connection between GABA and sleep paralysis.

[harry501]

Originally Posted by h0rsie

I took benzodiazepines on and off for about 8 months and after quitting them, I stopped getting sleep paralysis. I'm sure theres a connection between GABA and sleep paralysis.

That's probably spot on.

I've always had SP, but I've always been on strong painkillers.

The last time I had it a few nights back, I kept composed and actually thought about having an OBE, and my body started doing that vibrating thing you get after hours of meditation. Suddenly I rose out my body and floated up and then through the walls of my house.

I've heard people claim OBEs to be happening in their real world environment, but although MY environment was nearly 100% accurate, there were some irregularities and I knew after waking (and during it) that it was really just a very VIVID lucid dream state, where you have near full control of your dream.

That night I went into SP THREE times and every time I thought of OBEs and every time I had one.

I now can't wait for my next SP to do the same again.

It does tell me that those claiming demons or aliens around them are just having a SP/lucid dream (i.e the eyes are open and see your immediate environment, combined with the dream state. I'm 100% sure this is what it is. Anyone claiming the demons/aliens as real WANTS to believe that. If they just kept calm they'd see slight differences in their environment... like the curtains still open, a relative in the next room that they KNOW isn't staying, etc). To someone with a strong imagination or history of 'enjoying' conspiracy theory research, you could easily claim something from another dimension was 'chatting' to you or 'grabbing' you etc.

[real_activist]

I got sleep paralysis hardcore while i was not smoking weed a few years ago, was a great rush nearly as good as LSD, especially when your REM dreams are visual while you lay there. I wish i could get it again. These days i have the most vivid dreams but alas i cannot be conscious. If anyone has any tips on how to bring it on let me know......

This is quite interesting

Sleep Paralysis Documentary - YouTube

Sleep Paralysis Documentary - YouTube

[tnt1]

Originally Posted by h0rsie

Anyone here get sleep paralysis regularly? I usually (although I haven't had it in weeks for some reason) get it every 2nd night. Its an extremely interesting phenomenon to say the least. I have learned many a thing about it. One: there is definitely a connection between sleep paralysis and opioid receptors. Some people who suffer nightly SP claim that opioids cure their sleep paralysis. With me, its the other way around. Opioids guarantee that I will go into sleep paralysis when I fall asleep. When I am really happy about something while lying in bed at night, I go into sleep paralysis. This is most likely due to the endorphin release that the happy thoughts induce.

I never wake up in sleep paralysis, I always go into it as I'm falling asleep. It used to be really rough, I would get these intense sinking feelings, feel my head pulsating and hear this high pitched sound right before going into sleep paralysis, and on top of that the hallucinations were nearly unbearable they were so intense. Nowadays its so mild, I often go to roll over and discover that I am paralysed. Rather than drilling pneumatic drills into my spine and blasting me with power hoses like they used to do, the hallucinations nowadays literally give me back massages so my hallucinations nowadays are far more positive than the ones many people with SP describe. Although, getting your back massaged by something you can't see while lying in bed paralysed can be a fairly disturbing experience depending on how you look at it lol. I have made so many interesting observations about sleep paralysis and its connection to the dreaming as well as everyday waking reality that I could write a book but I really couldn't be bothered going into great detail right now, I will do so if people reply and share their experiences though.

I have experienced it rarely in my life and when I did I found that these beings focus on and expect, even want negative fear type emotions from us when they abduct and when you give them anything but this they are repulsed by it. If you reach out with joy and love in your heart trying to hug these creatures letting go of the fear and simply loving you'll find suddenly you are free and that they are the ones now on the defensive and getting you the hell out of their space! Others in my family were not so fortunate but controlled and tortured by the fear. I've known of this in my family since I was very young after experiencing it myself and we've dealt with it for many generations, mostly with the woman in my family. I had two aunts that became nuns because of this condition. My niece has it now and is seeking my help in dealing with it and the dark figures she sees during these episodes. I can't prove it but I think the history of members of my family often ending up in the priesthood and other duties associated with the church like the Benedictine Monks and Brothers and other various off shoots is directly tied to this condition running in my family. For my aunts I know this is the case because they joined the convent as a direct result of the fears sleep paralysis brought into their lives each night. For them the convent was their only source of solace for the night terrors.

[h0rsie]

Originally Posted by harry501

That's probably spot on.

I've always had SP, but I've always been on strong painkillers.

Opioids? When I fall asleep on opioids, I'm 100% guaranteed to get sleep paralysis (although things might have changed now that I've altered my neurochemistry with benzos). Opioids inhibit the release of GABA. Interesting because I get extremely vivid lucid dreams when I go into them directly from waking consciousness too. I recommend reading the free ebook at oobe4u.org they talk about those vivid wake induced lucid dreams.

[focused intent]

I have been having S.P. since I was a kid and I love it. You can launch yourself into a lucid dream or an astral projection from this state. There is no reason to fear it.

There is a separation of the soul and the body during S.P. and this is why some people encounter spiritual beings. (There is no such thing as a hallucination) They can't hurt you, remember that you are much stronger.

For the people who were talking about seeing their astral arm. Use that arm to grab your other astral hand and pull it free. Then grab your head and pull it free, then your chest, ect.. Until you’re completely detached from the body.

Yes, it really is possible.

[spock]

I have it all the time. Been having it a lot recently.

I can pull my arms free but I can not see them. They are invisible.
Like its just the energy that is usually in my arm.
I can also see with my eyes closed.

It is. Half in half out of body.
I feel there are other entities present. By maybe because it is in the astral realm.
I have seen a Gollumn like figure that was like a very dark shadow.
Like it absorbed light.
Most of the time they keep out of my field of vision tho.

Anyway. Last night I watched a boss film.

Ten parts. The fella is great.

YouTube (Short URL)

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