Murdered MI6 Officer

[edward13]

For any of you following this (or those who have just discovered it), you might be interested in checking out the author William Lynhope's blog.

http://william-lynhope.blogspot.co.uk

[mcburney]

Thanks for the link..

[vizier]

Seems fairly obvious from the off that this was an inside job. It'd be interesting to know the reasons why he was bumped off though.

[mcburney]

For shear strangeness it reminds me a little of the Roberto Calvi murder.
It's like whoever carried it out (no pun intended) was sending a message.

[uprising]

Originally Posted by vizier

Seems fairly obvious from the off that this was an inside job. It'd be interesting to know the reasons why he was bumped off though.

They do seem to be playing down what he was involved in if some earlier reports had any truth in them (there were many lies spread about him by the media about his private life at the same time) For instance it was said he helped intercept the gang planning a Mumbai style attack on Britain.
(I've just gone to a link to that report but it no longer exists)

Might be old news to some but yesterday it was proven beyond reasonable doubt he couldn't have locked himself in the bag.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...n-the-bag.html

The day before I read an account apparently by his landlady that said she had to once answer his calls for help and found he'd tied himself to a bed and couldn't escape. I wondered if this landlady might be another agent giving a false account to make us think it more likely he did it himself.

This new evidence kinda overides that though.

Here's something I wrote in 2010 on Sheffield forum-
Sorry links no longer work (I don't think)

"Like the murdered MI6 guy,The Sun did two days of front page stuff telling us he was into weird sex,suggesting to us he was probably killed in some sex game or by a "lover",the third day another spread but they don't mention until the last line that there was no evidence to back up what they had been claiming.But now it's a dark skinned couple seen loitering on cctv that are suspects.
As he was involved in surveillance of taliban communications etc.My feeling is he was perhaps not happy at something he was asked to do or found out something he shouldn't,perhaps threatened to whistle blow and was murdered by his "own team". (just a possibility)
Why did it take six days to start looking for him ?
Why do the character assassination ?
Is that respectful to a guy thats been killed,and his family ? "

Since i wrote that it has been reported that Gareth was the guy that intercepted messages that were to thwart the Mumbai style attacks on our country...And led to a US drone strike-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...error-plot.htm
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...rror-plot-hero
And a quote from another report.(Express)
"Meanwhile, there was fury in the US last night after FBI attempts to quiz Mr Williams’ best friend, a 25-year-old British woman working for British security in Colorado – were blocked by UK officials."

So basically we have a suspect,put to death without trial,on the information from one dead MI6 agent and a "terrorist that "broke under interrorgation".Oh and i'm sure Bin Laden was mentioned somewhere.
It all leads me to believe i was right in above quote
So could he have been murdered by his "own team" ?.
Seems there's not just me thinking it.
http://news.uk.msn.com/world/article...ntid=154535696

[uprising]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...d-7684701.html


The two 'bag experts' tried 400 times between them, but neither could fit themselves inside the North Face holdall and then padlock it from outside. "Even Houdini would have struggled" concluded one in resignation.

The inquest into the death of Gareth Williams, a MI6 officer whose body was found naked in a bag at his home, saw video footage of attempts to get inside a similar holdall, measuring 32ins by 19ins, and then lock it from the inside.

Afterwards, giving evidence, Peter Faulding stated that a 'third party' must have been responsible.

[spolier]

Originally Posted by uprising

They do seem to be playing down what he was involved in if some earlier reports had any truth in them (there were many lies spread about him by the media about his private life at the same time) For instance it was said he helped intercept the gang planning a Mumbai style attack on Britain.
(I've just gone to a link to that report but it no longer exists)

Might be old news to some but yesterday it was proven beyond reasonable doubt he couldn't have locked himself in the bag.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...n-the-bag.html

The day before I read an account apparently by his landlady that said she had to once answer his calls for help and found he'd tied himself to a bed and couldn't escape. I wondered if this landlady might be another agent giving a false account to make us think it more likely he did it himself.This new evidence kinda overides that though.

Here's something I wrote in 2010 on Sheffield forum-
Sorry links no longer work (I don't think)

"Like the murdered MI6 guy,The Sun did two days of front page stuff telling us he was into weird sex,suggesting to us he was probably killed in some sex game or by a "lover",the third day another spread but they don't mention until the last line that there was no evidence to back up what they had been claiming.But now it's a dark skinned couple seen loitering on cctv that are suspects.
As he was involved in surveillance of taliban communications etc.My feeling is he was perhaps not happy at something he was asked to do or found out something he shouldn't,perhaps threatened to whistle blow and was murdered by his "own team". (just a possibility)
Why did it take six days to start looking for him ?
Why do the character assassination ?
Is that respectful to a guy thats been killed,and his family ? "

Since i wrote that it has been reported that Gareth was the guy that intercepted messages that were to thwart the Mumbai style attacks on our country...And led to a US drone strike-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...error-plot.htm
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...rror-plot-hero
And a quote from another report.(Express)
"Meanwhile, there was fury in the US last night after FBI attempts to quiz Mr Williams’ best friend, a 25-year-old British woman working for British security in Colorado – were blocked by UK officials."

So basically we have a suspect,put to death without trial,on the information from one dead MI6 agent and a "terrorist that "broke under interrorgation".Oh and i'm sure Bin Laden was mentioned somewhere.
It all leads me to believe i was right in above quote
So could he have been murdered by his "own team" ?.
Seems there's not just me thinking it.
http://news.uk.msn.com/world/article...ntid=154535696

False witnesses or Liewitness, just like the shill who was giving hid liewitness/eyewitness account of DeMenezes hurdling barriers in a thick coat with wires protruding, one wonders why the worlds media chose to report the only witness account, which was to 'match' the official version of lies.

Same old official conspiracies peddled by the MSM, but thats their job to lie/smaear and bombard the zombies with propaganda isant it?

As he worked regarding the mythical organisation called the taliban, there are many scenarios or things he may have been shocked to find out, ie they dont exist only in the warped minds of the intel agencies and the pathological lying MSM.

from the history of the intel/dunce agencies, its obvious they have no respect for anything, there work is to promote galdio style mayhem and bullshit.

[uprising]

Originally Posted by spolier

False witnesses or Liewitness, just like the shill who was giving hid liewitness/eyewitness account of DeMenezes hurdling barriers in a thick coat with wires protruding, one wonders why the worlds media chose to report the only witness account, which was to 'match' the official version of lies.

Same old official conspiracies peddled by the MSM, but thats their job to lie/smaear and bombard the zombies with propaganda isant it?

As he worked regarding the mythical organisation called the taliban, there are many scenarios or things he may have been shocked to find out, ie they dont exist only in the warped minds of the intel agencies and the pathological lying MSM.

from the history of the intel/dunce agencies, its obvious they have no respect for anything, there work is to promote galdio style mayhem and bullshit.

That's what I think too

Here is that account by the landlady

http://www.itn.co.uk/home/43976/MI6+...himself+to+bed

The landlady of MI6 spy Gareth Williams has described how she found him tied to his bed in his boxer shorts, three years before he was discovered dead in a padlocked holdall.

Jennifer Elliot told the inquest into his death that she and her husband were awoken by calls for help coming from Mr Williams' flat next door.

When she went to help, he told her he had tied his wrists to the headboard "to see if he could get free".

However, she told the coroner the act was "more likely to be sexual than escapology".
.....

When I read that the other day I thought that's it , game over they're going to find he did it himself, it seems to be the agenda from the start. The fact it is near enough impossible for him to have got in there himself has rather scuppered their plans for that.

[majorlee]

like i keep saying and should be a mantra to every UK citizen

time for these clandestine service to GO!

we dont need them, they just cause more trouble and hide there mistakes behind secrecy, like this case too

[uprising]

Originally Posted by majorlee

like i keep saying and should be a mantra to every UK citizen

time for these clandestine service to GO!

we dont need them, they just cause more trouble and hide there mistakes behind secrecy, like this case too

JFK put it well in this speech before they murdered him also.

President John F Kennedy Secret Society Speech version 2 - YouTube

President John F Kennedy Secret Society Speech version 2 - YouTube

[montmorency]

One is also reminded of David Shaylor, who used to sound perfectly rational, when he was spilling the beans on the dirty dealings of the spooks, after a while started coming out with some very odd stuff, and "outing" himself as a transvestite.

It just wasn't the same David Shaylor. He sounded the same and looked the same, but this wasn't the same person talking. He had changed, or rather been changed, rather drastically.

[necessaryevil]

The fact the death of a spy is allll over the mainstream media, should alert you to the fact someone wants you to know about it. Why? Wait and see who they blame...

[blue2]

He was said to be unhappy with his job and didn't it get ignored his request to move...i felt it was an MI6 knock off...job. He annoyed someone too much.

[allseeinguy]

all murders are committed by someone in an individuals circle bar the odd mugging gone bad, did he tred on somebodys toes or find out some juicy information, who knows? surely being in that line of work is not enjoyable, who could you trust? anyway hopefully the good people who are in the intelligence services get to the bottom of it.

[o_rourke]

Originally Posted by allseeinguy

all murders are committed by someone in an individuals circle bar the odd mugging gone bad, did he tred on somebodys toes or find out some juicy information, who knows? surely being in that line of work is not enjoyable, who could you trust? anyway hopefully the good people who are in the intelligence services get to the bottom of it.

That's the problem though. Is there any 'good' people who work in the intelligence services? I think they are all MK Ultra'd drones whom are programmed to do whatever the man behind the curtain wants them to do.

There are excerpts still kicking around somewhere from witnesses who inadvertently went for job interviews at the Tavistock Institution and were then subject to their (torturous) initiation process. (Many of these people stated their names as anonymous given they are most likely still terrified to this day what they witnessed and went through)

I have also read reports about Stella Remington (former head of MI5 and now a famous author writing about spy stories...how convenient, uh?) being a total psycho...and who was instrumental in most of these reports of torture and initiation processes.

[o_rourke]

Originally Posted by allseeinguy

all murders are committed by someone in an individuals circle bar the odd mugging gone bad, did he tred on somebodys toes or find out some juicy information, who knows? surely being in that line of work is not enjoyable, who could you trust? anyway hopefully the good people who are in the intelligence services get to the bottom of it.

That's the problem though. Is there any 'good' people who work in the intelligence services? I think they are all MK Ultra'd drones whom are programmed to do whatever the man behind the curtain wants them to do.

There are excerpts still kicking around somewhere from witnesses who inadvertently went for job interviews at the Tavistock Institution and were then subject to a (torturous) initiation process. (Many of these people stated their names as anonymous given they are most likely still terrified to this day what they witnessed and went through)

I have also read reports about Stella Remington (former head of MI5 and now a famous author writing about spy stories...how convenient, uh?) being a total psycho...and who was instrumental in most of these reports of torture and initiation processes.

[blue2]

Coroner state a Narrative Verdict reached as an Open Verdict would not do the case Justice Justice where the hell is it in this case?

Perfect MI6 Murder then..he rattled someone's cage...

I hope his family insist on an Independent examination of body despite it's decomposition as surely in this 21st Century of enlightenment Science should come up with something better and what of the DNA recently said to be found on the Holdall, it seems to have conveniently disappeared...

Even his family had stated they believe it was an Agent performing dark arts for Secret Service..even memory sticks were witheld as MI6 said they contained sensitive information..yeah i bet they did..but surely in a death such as this the Police should have overidden that statement from MI6.

[redsky]

Originally Posted by blue2

Coroner state a Narrative Verdict reached as an Open Verdict would not do the case Justice Justice where the hell is it in this case?

Perfect MI6 Murder then..he rattled someone's cage...

I hope his family insist on an Independent examination of body despite it's decomposition as surely in this 21st Century of enlightenment Science should come up with something better and what of the DNA recently said to be found on the Holdall, it seems to have conveniently disappeared...

Even his family had stated they believe it was an Agent performing dark arts for Secret Service..even memory sticks were witheld as MI6 said they contained sensitive information..yeah i bet they did..but surely in a death such as this the Police should have overidden that statement from MI6.

most of the fundamental questions in relation to how Gareth died remain unanswered".

This was quoted off the BBC website, so how the hell can she say she won't consider an unlawful killing?
Also why are MI6 not being done for perverting the course of justice?

I can't get my head round the whole cover up, although A narrative verdict should read I've just tried to sweep this under the carpet

[spiraltrance]

Originally Posted by vizier

Seems fairly obvious from the off that this was an inside job. It'd be interesting to know the reasons why he was bumped off though.

I read on blog written by an anonymous journalist the dead MI6 guy was investigating financial irregularities in the stock market but did his a job a bit to good and uncovered a major theft, fraud and money laundering network that wasn't supposed to be discovered.

[dolores1]

Have youa link please spiral?