Don't Vaccinate, Boost, Chip or Worm your pets !

[21_12_2012]

Originally Posted by justawakening

Crikey 2012 - live food, yes, agree that would take care of the vitamin debacle but I'm still too lilly livered to commit to that. Very impressed that you're able to do it though.

Strange isn't it, I'm happy to keep these domesticated obligate carnivores but not able to let go of the fluffy illusion of them being able to thrive on commercial mush

I do'nt feed the mice 'live' to my cats.

They are put to sleep in the most humane way (CO2) carbon dioxide.

The mouse body has to then be cut up, otherwise the cat will throw the dead full body around for about 15 minutes (instincts, believing it is still alive because of the smell) and it will make a mess !

So cutting it up prevents that, and they just eat them (very quickly!) after being cut up. And then do a silly dance usually after they've eaten them because they love them so much !

[21_12_2012]

A page about cancer in pets caused by microchips.

http://www.antichips.com/press-relea...pped-pets.html

[beate]

Hi there
looked through the forum but couldn't find any suitable thread for my question so I just came to this one.....

Pretty soon, I will get some chickens to keep them in my garden; they shall grow up happily give me some eggs (and not their meat) and I let them live until their natural dead.

Now I have got a vaccination plan for chickens and I was shocked as there are more than 20 vaccination times for approx. 11 different deaseases within the first 24 weeks of the chickens' life.

I really would like to keep this chickens without them have any vaccs., however, when I red about the various viruses, bakterias, funguses, mites, worms...... they could get I'm getting afraid of all this.

There is big pharma they only want to have money from vaccs. and simultaneously they want to weaken the chickens to let them die earlier than normally. This is what I'm thinking about, however, I'm very, very unsure about this my theory.

Now my question: Isn't there any good on any vaccincation ? (I only ask in case of animals) Absolute everything is bad on vaccinations ? I really would appreciate your support... Thanks !

[21_12_2012]

Originally Posted by beate

Hi there
looked through the forum but couldn't find any suitable thread for my question so I just came to this one.....

Pretty soon, I will get some chickens to keep them in my garden; they shall grow up happily give me some eggs (and not their meat) and I let them live until their natural dead.

Now I have got a vaccination plan for chickens and I was shocked as there are more than 20 vaccination times for approx. 11 different deaseases within the first 24 weeks of the chickens' life.

I really would like to keep this chickens without them have any vaccs., however, when I red about the various viruses, bakterias, funguses, mites, worms...... they could get I'm getting afraid of all this.

There is big pharma they only want to have money from vaccs. and simultaneously they want to weaken the chickens to let them die earlier than normally. This is what I'm thinking about, however, I'm very, very unsure about this my theory.

Now my question: Isn't there any good on any vaccincation ? (I only ask in case of animals) Absolute everything is bad on vaccinations ? I really would appreciate your support... Thanks !

In my opinion yes, EVERYTHING about vaccination is bad, and whatever you have been told from whoever about the chicken vaccinations is as clueless to what they're really for, as doctors and nurses are as clueless about the whole vaccine agenda in general (as planned by the illuminati)

But please don't take my word for it, research some more, although i suspect you already know the truth.

[schumie]

I agree totally with the OP

we have had cats all my life and the average age they live to is 18 - some only got to 16 some to 21 one even got to 23

this without any vaccinations whatsoever

I took one of the kittens with my when I left home ( he is in my avatar and was called schumie :-))

when me and my partner at the time moved to a new town my mother in law to be ( or not as it turned out) looked after him for a week, while we settled in with a new house/town/baby

when she returned him he had been neutured and been given his vaccinations - I was LIVID!

he only lived till 10 years :-( meanwhile his mum now lives with me she is 16 and shows no sign of going anywhere soon ( thankfully) I also have another old girl who is also 16 ( both inherited from my mum when she could not take them into her new rented accomodation)

they have never had any vaccinations and only been to the vet to be spade when it became dangerous for them to have any more kittens

cats have survived on this earth for thousands of years without having any jabs why would they need them now!

All my friends that vaccinate their cats - none of their cats live as long as ours do - and it is a good life not in pain or unable to move

[21_12_2012]

Originally Posted by schumie

I agree totally with the OP

we have had cats all my life and the average age they live to is 18 - some only got to 16 some to 21 one even got to 23

this without any vaccinations whatsoever

I took one of the kittens with my when I left home ( he is in my avatar and was called schumie :-))

when me and my partner at the time moved to a new town my mother in law to be ( or not as it turned out) looked after him for a week, while we settled in with a new house/town/baby

when she returned him he had been neutured and been given his vaccinations - I was LIVID!

he only lived till 10 years :-( meanwhile his mum now lives with me she is 16 and shows no sign of going anywhere soon ( thankfully) I also have another old girl who is also 16 ( both inherited from my mum when she could not take them into her new rented accomodation)

they have never had any vaccinations and only been to the vet to be spade when it became dangerous for them to have any more kittens

cats have survived on this earth for thousands of years without having any jabs why would they need them now!

All my friends that vaccinate their cats - none of their cats live as long as ours do - and it is a good life not in pain or unable to move

Brilliant news, except about the younger cat dying.... those are good ages to live to, is that on commercial food too ?

I'm feeding mine 'as-fresh-and-raw' as it gets mainly.... if they don't get involved in any accidents i am fully expecting them both to live well into their 20's

[schumie]

yes it is on commercial food

well they eat anything really especially chesse and sweetcorn they go crazy for both!

[21_12_2012]

Originally Posted by schumie

yes it is on commercial food

well they eat anything really especially chesse and sweetcorn they go crazy for both!

I'm very surprised that the sugar and other nasties haven't taken tolls in this time. That's a main reason for cats/dogs to go to vets, having their teeth cleaned because of the commercial sugar.

[beldazar]

Originally Posted by 21_12_2012

I live in the UK. As far as I am aware there is no rabies in the UK. Even if there was, what would be the chances of my cats catching it ? Very slim indeed realistically.

I asked this question a while ago in another thread:-

"anybody ever seen a rabid dog...? ever ?" and no one replied....

I should've also asked:- "anyone ever seen a rabid cat ? ever".....

Vet scaremongering.....it works a treat !

Originally Posted by 21_12_2012

Agreed. So in my opinion, no vaccination necessary.



It doesn't mean it doesn't exist, correct, I just have serious doubts that it does.



Vaccines have never worked, it's a myth to make cash on people, and perpetuate the suffering cycle of people and pets.

I invite anyone on this forum to ask their vet next time they are visiting:-
"how many cases do you know of of actual pets contracting rabies ?"

I'd hazard a common-sense guess that the answer will be:- "erm... none actually"
....the same goes for the other 'scary' diseases they fraudulently vaccinate against.....





Could very well be true. I have my reservations.



I don't understand, how can it be vanishingly rare yet happen all the time?



Like i said above, if anyone has any proof of any pet ever having rabies, I'll believe it exists and is a possible 'threat' to pets.... until then, it's 'their word'



My cats will hopefully see 25 years without any vets trips.

This is what's in commercial pet foods:-

What's REALLY in Your Pet's Food!! - YouTube

.

Well said and good thread!

[beldazar]

Originally Posted by beate

Hi there
looked through the forum but couldn't find any suitable thread for my question so I just came to this one.....

Pretty soon, I will get some chickens to keep them in my garden; they shall grow up happily give me some eggs (and not their meat) and I let them live until their natural dead.

Now I have got a vaccination plan for chickens and I was shocked as there are more than 20 vaccination times for approx. 11 different deaseases within the first 24 weeks of the chickens' life.

I really would like to keep this chickens without them have any vaccs., however, when I red about the various viruses, bakterias, funguses, mites, worms...... they could get I'm getting afraid of all this.

There is big pharma they only want to have money from vaccs. and simultaneously they want to weaken the chickens to let them die earlier than normally. This is what I'm thinking about, however, I'm very, very unsure about this my theory.

Now my question: Isn't there any good on any vaccincation ? (I only ask in case of animals) Absolute everything is bad on vaccinations ? I really would appreciate your support... Thanks !

I have 5 chickens and would never dream of vaccinating them!

Ash bath can deter feather lice and organic apple cider vinegar is meant to be a deterrent for worms but if you keep your chickens happy they won't get ill.

[beate]

Originally Posted by beldazar

I have 5 chickens and would never dream of vaccinating them!

Ash bath can deter feather lice and organic apple cider vinegar is meant to be a deterrent for worms but if you keep your chickens happy they won't get ill.

Thanks !! That's what I needed to know ...... !!

[beldazar]

Originally Posted by beate

Thanks !! That's what I needed to know ...... !!

Nice one

[21_12_2012]

Originally Posted by beldazar

I have 5 chickens and would never dream of vaccinating them!

Ash bath can deter feather lice and organic apple cider vinegar is meant to be a deterrent for worms but if you keep your chickens happy they won't get ill.

Spot on !

Stick to nature.... it's the only way.

[21_12_2012]

Another point I just remembered....

I've never put a flea collar on either of my cats (actually no collars at all)

And they've never had 1 flea.