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Old 23-01-2012, 07:57 PM   #21
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from the gnostic gospel of st. thomas:

"Grapes are not harvested from thorn trees, nor are figs gathered from thistles, for they yield no fruit.
Good persons produce good from what they've stored up;
bad persons produce evil rom the wickedness they've stored up in their hearts, and say evil things.
For from the overflow of the heart they produce evil."
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Old 23-01-2012, 09:04 PM   #22
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Wink You know for whom the sin story is a great idea!

You know for whom the sin story is a great idea!

For the freaking Catholic nuts running there brainwashing organization.

You know the first sin ever?
Its when the money changer Catholic nuts told the Sheep brains that they can sell there sins for some coins so they fill there own pockets!

Then these Catholic nuts were thinking that's great ..... just tell them they all sinners this way our pockets stay filled permanently!

These sheep brains are still filling there Religions organizations pockets till today!

Now you know why they don't tell you about the Spirit because this bullshit coin business would stop tomorrow once the people use there Spirit instead of there Soul.

The Devil knows that he can only play around with your Soul but he can not ever touch your Spirit once its switched on by yourself.


That's why your Churches hates the "Jesus" & true God/image; because he or it is the biggest natural threat to the organized Mafia Religions World wide!


Now you know why Jesus said to them get the hell out of my temple; because your bullshit does not work for any one!

Christians have to understand that the physical Churches has nothing to do with Jesus or God teaching. They are teaching you away from it & that's the reality.


The Gospel According to Mary Magdalene

25) Peter said to him, Since you have explained everything to us, tell us this also: What is the sin of the world?

26) The Savior said There is no sin , but it is you who make sin when you do the things that are like the nature of adultery, which is called sin.

11) The Savior answered and said, He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind that is between the two that is what sees the vision and it is [...]
http://www.gnosis.org/library/marygosp.htm


Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Hence ...... Holocaust story ...... Money, Money Money ..... who is the sinner & what the f@ck did I have to do with it????????

Who played with all your Books the most .......... Well you all know ..... Like 1 + 1 = 2


So if you do bad things your Soul shall die & let the Spirit through the mind take over; so the bad shit your simple Animal like Soul tells you to do stays under control.

Which freaking Church Leader or any other Religious Leader would ever tell you this truth to cut there own money supply legs off??

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Old 23-01-2012, 10:44 PM   #23
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You know for whom the sin story is a great idea!

For the freaking Catholic nuts running there brainwashing organization.

You know the first sin ever?
Its when the money changer Catholic nuts told the Sheep brains that they can sell there sins for some coins so they fill there own pockets!

Then these Catholic nuts were thinking that's great ..... just tell them they all sinners this way our pockets stay filled permanently!

These sheep brains are still filling there Religions organizations pockets till today!

Now you know why they don't tell you about the Spirit because this bullshit coin business would stop tomorrow once the people use there Spirit instead of there Soul.

The Devil knows that he can only play around with your Soul but he can not ever touch your Spirit once its switched on by yourself.


That's why your Churches hates the "Jesus" & true God/image; because he or it is the biggest natural threat to the organized Mafia Religions World wide!


Now you know why Jesus said to them get the hell out of my temple; because your bullshit does not work for any one!

Christians have to understand that the physical Churches has nothing to do with Jesus or God teaching. They are teaching you away from it & that's the reality.


The Gospel According to Mary Magdalene

25) Peter said to him, Since you have explained everything to us, tell us this also: What is the sin of the world?

26) The Savior said There is no sin , but it is you who make sin when you do the things that are like the nature of adultery, which is called sin.

11) The Savior answered and said, He does not see through the soul nor through the spirit, but the mind that is between the two that is what sees the vision and it is [...]
http://www.gnosis.org/library/marygosp.htm


Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Hence ...... Holocaust story ...... Money, Money Money ..... who is the sinner & what the f@ck did I have to do with it????????

Who played with all your Books the most .......... Well you all know ..... Like 1 + 1 = 2


So if you do bad things your Soul shall die & let the Spirit through the mind take over; so the bad shit your simple Animal like Soul tells you to do stays under control.

Which freaking Church Leader or any other Religious Leader would ever tell you this truth to cut there own legs off??

All I have to say is WOW and I agree they do not know WWJD because of the incomplete records.
Great post!
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Old 23-01-2012, 10:45 PM   #24
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from the gnostic gospel of st. thomas:

"Grapes are not harvested from thorn trees, nor are figs gathered from thistles, for they yield no fruit.
Good persons produce good from what they've stored up;
bad persons produce evil rom the wickedness they've stored up in their hearts, and say evil things.
For from the overflow of the heart they produce evil."
That speaks loud and clear.
Great post!
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Old 24-01-2012, 01:08 AM   #25
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Arrow Zoroaster, meaning "golden light"

1500 BC± (Greek: Zoroaster, meaning "golden light")

For Zoroaster there is only one God, Creator of heaven and earth and of all things. In his relations with the world God acts through his main "faculties" which are sometimes spoken of as being engendered by him--his Holy Spirit, [his] Righteousness, [his] Good Mind, and Right-mindedness. Further he is master of the Kingdom, Wholeness, and Immortality, which also form aspects of himself.
Righteousness or Truth is the objective standard of right behavior, which God chooses.... Wickedness or disorder...is the objective standard of all that strives against God, the standard which the Evil Spirit chooses at the beginning of existence. Evil imitates the good creation: and so we find the Evil Spirit operating against the Holy Spirit, the Evil Mind against the Good Mind, the Lie or wickedness against Truth or Righteousness, and Pride against Right-mindedness.

Evil derives from the wrong choice of a free being who must in some sense derive from God, but for whose wickedness God cannot be held responsible. Angra Mainyu or Ahriman, [names for] the Devil, is not yet co-eternal with God as he was to become in the later system: he is the Adversary of the Holy Spirit only, not of God himself.

The important point is that evil masquerades as good. It always has and continues to do so today. Besides prayers and mantras, one way to counteract evil is through "good thoughts, good words and good deeds.

This is the threefold ethic of Zoroastrianism.
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Old 24-01-2012, 04:00 AM   #26
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1500 BC± (Greek: Zoroaster, meaning "golden light")

For Zoroaster there is only one God, Creator of heaven and earth and of all things. In his relations with the world God acts through his main "faculties" which are sometimes spoken of as being engendered by him--his Holy Spirit, [his] Righteousness, [his] Good Mind, and Right-mindedness. Further he is master of the Kingdom, Wholeness, and Immortality, which also form aspects of himself.
Righteousness or Truth is the objective standard of right behavior, which God chooses.... Wickedness or disorder...is the objective standard of all that strives against God, the standard which the Evil Spirit chooses at the beginning of existence. Evil imitates the good creation: and so we find the Evil Spirit operating against the Holy Spirit, the Evil Mind against the Good Mind, the Lie or wickedness against Truth or Righteousness, and Pride against Right-mindedness.

Evil derives from the wrong choice of a free being who must in some sense derive from God, but for whose wickedness God cannot be held responsible. Angra Mainyu or Ahriman, [names for] the Devil, is not yet co-eternal with God as he was to become in the later system: he is the Adversary of the Holy Spirit only, not of God himself.

The important point is that evil masquerades as good. It always has and continues to do so today. Besides prayers and mantras, one way to counteract evil is through "good thoughts, good words and good deeds.

This is the threefold ethic of Zoroastrianism.
http://www.worldwideashram.org/html_files/age-of-heroes-persia.html
Excellent,Many here are quite educated in truth.
Truth is quite the worthy opponent of lost religions.
And the spirit of truth is outlined in others bible.
And it seems they think it will be a single person.
I contend many here are of the spirit of truth.
And the clock is running out for many others.
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Old 25-01-2012, 01:05 AM   #27
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wow.
great stuff!
thanks for sharing.
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Old 25-01-2012, 11:44 PM   #28
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the patron saint of hippos said: no saint without a past. no sinner without a future.

but i think you show the guilt and obedience that Christianity imposes on its cultists.
Christians are not more or less guilty than others.
I am a good person.
I use confession as one would a psychotherapist. I aways come out with an inner peace.
I don't feel parituclarly guilty. I do wish others would sometimes consider thei consequences of their nastiness towards others - and that the selfish would look at the harm they cause as to the envious, jealous, and those who suffer from inferiority complexes, etc.
Christians shoul also suffer those who don't fit in little pigeon holes as i don't.
To be in tune with others, nature, the cosmos and once's true self is imoortant too as long as it is all done with the perfect energy which is Love.
The dynamic power which is Love creates harmony.
Harmony unties everything and thus evil the necessary other side of the oin si fused into something new.
Light shines in darkness but you need both to find truth within and without.
For here is a learning ground for souls. Hence it takes a lot of discernment and tolerance as each learns at his own rate, his own lesson, his own way on his own path.
Bon voyage!
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Old 26-01-2012, 01:00 AM   #29
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Christians are not more or less guilty than others.
I am a good person.
I use confession as one would a psychotherapist. I aways come out with an inner peace.
I don't feel parituclarly guilty. I do wish others would sometimes consider thei consequences of their nastiness towards others - and that the selfish would look at the harm they cause as to the envious, jealous, and those who suffer from inferiority complexes, etc.
Christians shoul also suffer those who don't fit in little pigeon holes as i don't.
To be in tune with others, nature, the cosmos and once's true self is imoortant too as long as it is all done with the perfect energy which is Love.
The dynamic power which is Love creates harmony.
Harmony unties everything and thus evil the necessary other side of the oin si fused into something new.
Light shines in darkness but you need both to find truth within and without.
For here is a learning ground for souls. Hence it takes a lot of discernment and tolerance as each learns at his own rate, his own lesson, his own way on his own path.
Bon voyage!
thanks, appreciate your answer. you guys aint so bad
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Old 26-01-2012, 11:24 PM   #30
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thanks, appreciate your answer. you guys aint so bad
Thank you.
We have to work for a better world. But his not heaven and never will be otherwise it wouldn't be a purifying ground any more.
Still always chose the Light. Prefer Love to hate. Unmask dangerous lyers. Debank the evil doer and the man of hate. Make Peace the ultimate aim.
But there will always be night and day, winter and summer, etc. for it is in the dark that light shines.
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Old 27-01-2012, 02:28 AM   #31
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Thank you.
We have to work for a better world. But his not heaven and never will be otherwise it wouldn't be a purifying ground any more.
Still always chose the Light. Prefer Love to hate. Unmask dangerous lyers. Debank the evil doer and the man of hate. Make Peace the ultimate aim.
But there will always be night and day, winter and summer, etc. for it is in the dark that light shines.
The biggest problem of organized religions is for sure the abuse of their practices.
Certainly someone can get a soothing affect from the act of confessional.
But when organized astrocities are found out.Like child molestations allowed and assisted by their church.One must wonder if those who are supposed to keep something sacred has but made a mockery of it.
Can you not picture all the child molesting church leaders forgiving one another for their crimes on those poor children?And then starting all over again.
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However when he, the Spirit of truth, has come, he will guide you into all truth, for he will not speak from himself; but whatever he hears, he will speak. He will declare to you things that are coming.
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Old 29-01-2012, 12:25 AM   #32
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Jesus is fiction, never existed.
All religions were created to control and manipulate soul.
No one is born into sin, that's pure B.S.!!

Obviously this thread starter is NOT awakened.

The ONLY way to connect to the Divine, All-That-Is, God, etc., is through the heart, not the mind. All religions go through the mind and use guilt and fear to trap you.

Time to state TRUTH.
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Old 30-01-2012, 01:43 AM   #33
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from the gnostic gospel of st. thomas:

"Grapes are not harvested from thorn trees, nor are figs gathered from thistles, for they yield no fruit.
Good persons produce good from what they've stored up;
bad persons produce evil rom the wickedness they've stored up in their hearts, and say evil things.
For from the overflow of the heart they produce evil."
Thanks. Isn't it strange that the most meaningful texts are the ones that were "forbidden" and thrown out of the Bible?

This is a wonderful quote from a book by Elaine Pagels called "The Gnostic Gospels":

“Yet to know oneself, at the deepest level, is simultaneously to know God; this is the secret of gnosis. Another Gnostic teacher Monoiumus, says: Abandon the search for God and the creation and other matters of a similar sort. Look for him by taking yourself as the starting point. Learn who it is within you who makes everything his own and says, “My God, my mind, my thought, my soul, my body.” Learn the source of sorrow, joy, love, hate . . . If you carefully investigate these matters you will find him in yourself.”
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Well, it is the Romans who created the bible as religious book, and they really
had no intention to use it for any purpose other than control, domination and
oppression. So it is natural that they did not include the most important texts,
but only those they could use for their dark purposes.
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Old 30-01-2012, 03:39 AM   #35
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However you can be a Catholic and believe what you want..
do you not recite the creed as your profession of faith at each mass?
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