wi-fi radiation killing off trees?

[surohorus]

This is kinda odd...

[cluas]

Bump

Sadly this is not reported in any main stream - Guess there is too much money involved

[liami]

Stop the world! I wanna get off!

[cluas]

Here is some news for all :

http://www.international-emf-allianc...tun-resolution

WORLD HEALTH Urgently Needs Lower EMF Standards, International Scientists Say
Oslo, Norway, February 3, 2011. The International Electromagnetic Fields Alliance (IEMFA) today announces a new published report and scientific Consensus Statement concerning health hazards of electromagnetic fields (EMFs). Led by Olle Johansson, PhD of the Karolinska Institute, the report published by a consortium of international scientists urges global governments to adopt significantly lower human exposure standards for electromagnetic fields. The recommendations are based on the latest body of evidence in biological sciences, and the public-health implications of the unprecedented global exposures to electromagnetic fields from telecommunications and electric power technologies. The scientists recommend specific exposure limits for different frequency fields, including microwaves, used in wireless communications, and ELF electric fields and magnetic fields.

10 Key Points:

1. The Global Population Is At Risk. Global populations are not sufficiently protected from electromagnetic fields (EMF) from emerging communication and data transmission technologies that are being deployed worldwide, affecting billions of people;

2. Sensitive Populations Are Currently Vulnerable. Sensitive populations (for example, the elderly, the ill, the genetically and/or immunologically challenged) and children and fetuses may be additionally vulnerable to health risks; their exposures are largely involuntary and they are less protected by existing public safety standards; and they may amount to 40-50% of the population;

3. Government Actions Are Warranted Now Based on Evidence of Serious Disruption to Biological Systems. The Seletun Scientific Panel urges governments to adopt an explicit statement that “the standard for judging and acting on the scientific evidence shall be based on prudent public health planning principles rather than scientific certainty of effect (causal evidence)”. Actions are warranted based on limited, or weak, scientific evidence, or a sufficiency of evidence – rather than a conclusive scientific evidence (causation or scientific certainty) where the consequence of doing nothing in the short term may cause irreparable public health and economic harm, where the populations potentially at risk are very large, where there are alternatives without similar risks, or where the exposures are largely involuntary;

4. The Burden of Proof for the Safety of Radiation-Emitting Technologies Should Fall on Producers and Providers Not Consumers. The Seletun Scientific Panel urges governments to make explicit that the burden of proof of safety rests with the producers and providers of EMF- producing technologies, not with the users and consumers.

5. EMF Exposures Should Be Reduced in Advance of Complete Understanding of Mechanisms of Action. EMF exposures should be reduced now rather than waiting for proof or understanding of mechanisms of harm before acting. This recommendation is in keeping with traditional public health principles, and is justified now given abundant evidence that biological effects and adverse health effects are occurring at exposure levels many orders of magnitude below existing public safety standards around the world;

6. The Current Accepted Measure of Radiation Risk—the Specific Absorption Rate (‘SAR’)—Is Inadequate, and Misguides on Safety and Risk. SAR is not an adequate approach to predict many important biologic effects in studies that report increased risks for cancer, neurological diseases, impairments to immune function, fertility and reproduction, and neurological function (cognition, behaviour, performance, mood status, disruption of sleep, increased risk for auto collisions, etc);

7. An International Disease Registry Is Needed To Track Time Trends of Illnesses to Correlate Illnesses with Exposures. The Seletun Scientific Panel recommends an international registry be established to track time-trends in incidence and mortality for cancers and neurological and immune diseases. Tracking effects of EMF on children and sensitive EHS populations is a high priority. There should be open access to this information;

8. Pre-Market Health Testing and Safety Demonstration of All Radiation-Emitting Technologies. There is a need for mandatory pre-market assessments of emissions and risks before deployment of new wireless technologies. There should be convincing evidence that products do not cause health harm before marketing;

9. Parity Needed for Occupational Exposure Standards. The Panel discourages use of more lenient public safety standards for workers, as compared to the general public. Separate safety limits are not ethically acceptable. Workers include women of childbearing age and men who wish to retain their fertility;

10. Functional Impairment Designation for Persons with Electrohypersensitivity. The Panel strongly recommends that persons with electrohypersensitivity symptoms (EHS) be classified as functionally impaired rather than with ‘idiopathic environmental disease’ or similar indistinct categories. This terminology accepts responsibility for the environmental cause of the related health challenges and will encourage governments to make adjustments in the living environment to better address social and well-being needs of this subpopulation of highly sensitive members of society.

[hammarberg]

I don't know if it's wi-fi, ELF, chemtrails or all combined, but something has been killing pines and spruces here since last years spring... And oddly, rather young trees seem to be affected most.

trees of age between 5 -20 years show no ill effects, between 30 - 50 year old trees have their last eyrs growth almost totally dead, very old trees on the other hand seem to be fine. And it is somehow species specific damage.. Birch and maple are fine, only pines and spures show something odd...

The needles are falling out and latest growths are dead. I would say that about 50% of these trees in my area have this. If this goes on and becomes more frequent i'm sure people will start taking notice. This far i havent heard anybody say anything about these trees. Something is killing them here. Also another oddity i noticed, more rural the area, the worse is the condition of these trees. I'm very worried about this and that nobody here seems to notice. I've pointed this out to some friends. They don't seem to care.

I guess that part of the cause was that last summer was too dry. But strangely the most resistant and tough trees seem to be in worst condition. I was going to make new topic about this but this fits here just fine. Have others in other countries noticed something like this?

[cluas]

Originally Posted by hammarberg

I don't know if it's wi-fi, ELF, chemtrails or all combined, but something has been killing pines and spruces here since last years spring... And oddly, rather young trees seem to be affected most.

trees of age between 5 -20 years show no ill effects, between 30 - 50 year old trees have their last eyrs growth almost totally dead, very old trees on the other hand seem to be fine. And it is somehow species specific damage.. Birch and maple are fine, only pines and spures show something odd...

The needles are falling out and latest growths are dead. I would say that about 50% of these trees in my area have this. If this goes on and becomes more frequent i'm sure people will start taking notice. This far i havent heard anybody say anything about these trees. Something is killing them here. Also another oddity i noticed, more rural the area, the worse is the condition of these trees. I'm very worried about this and that nobody here seems to notice. I've pointed this out to some friends. They don't seem to care.

I guess that part of the cause was that last summer was too dry. But strangely the most resistant and tough trees seem to be in worst condition. I was going to make new topic about this but this fits here just fine. Have others in other countries noticed something like this?

I think it's a combination of all theese things you mention ....
In my town we also had trees dead, but they say it's some kind of tree disease

[hammarberg]

Originally Posted by cluas

I think it's a combination of all theese things you mention ....
In my town we also had trees dead, but they say it's some kind of tree disease

Probably.. It's sad to see this shit going on in rural areas also. With exception of places where there is no 3G/wi-fi... Our summerhouse for example, no darn 3G. And the trees/wildlife in general are in the condition how it should be.

Tree disease, ofcourse, what else. Some years ago there was a disease which killed almost all leafs from every single maple here. But it only affected leafs, and next year they were fine again. What ever is killing pine and spruce is far more worse.

I'd really like to know why other trees are not affected, at least i haven't noticed anything. If pine/spuce will die here, it's going to turn finland into a wasteland. Those trees make almost half of all treelife here. Well, now i'm painting devils on the wall, old, huge trees and young trees are fine. I'm waiting for spring to see if they will grow normally this year. I hope so.

If it's wi-fi, it wouldn't surprise me much, i've heard that Finland has 10 to 100 times more powerful 3G/wi-fi smog than most european countries. And i bet it's affecting people too. When i go to our summerhouse, which is in the middle of nowhere, all tiredness and bad moods are totally gone. It's easy to sleep, dreams are more vivid and verybody there feels more energetic than here in town.

I wish that something would come which would knock the grid out..

[cluas]

Originally Posted by hammarberg

I wish that something would come which would knock the grid out..

For that to happen, this has to go into the news, I have not seen any news in the mainstream about all this....
And frankly, it's probably too late

[hammarberg]

Originally Posted by cluas

For that to happen, this has to go into the news, I have not seen any news in the mainstream about all this....
And frankly, it's probably too late

Im quite sure that there is a possibility to make wi-fi/3G grid to work without the harmful effects... Some expert said in some article i read the other day that the problem with the transmission is the pulsing.. The guy said that if the connection would be constant and not a pulse, there would be no ill effects.

Im damn sure that when these problems are discovered(=disclosed) and people get worried enough, somebody's going to change the tech to a non-harming one. I hope that day is near...

[cluas]

@hammarberg

Good post, thanks for beeing positive

[hammarberg]

Originally Posted by cluas

@hammarberg

Good post, thanks for beeing positive

Thanks to you too. I'm trying my best to not succumb to all doom and glood stuff over here.

But the situation with trees here is worrying me. I hope it wont get any worse.

[cluas]

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This thread deserved a bump anyway

[lakkimakki]

Originally Posted by cluas

I personally avoid wireless as much as i can.

the problem is they use it in scools and at public places...

Do any of YOU think it is dangerous ??

How can you avoid wi-fi when its everywhere ?

[rolf harris]

Originally Posted by lakkimakki

How can you avoid wi-fi when its everywhere ?

[beldazar]

Originally Posted by lakkimakki

How can you avoid wi-fi when its everywhere ?

Well one thing you can do is to get an ethernet cable instead of WI-FI but as for avoiding it entirely, no idea.
I hired out an acoustimeter and found my home relatively safe apart from the freezer but my neighbours have a WI-FI under their stairs seeping into my house. I had to rearrange the furniture as my lad was sitting diectly in line of it. I have also heard that thee are cetain plants like ivy, palms and the peace lily an help to absorb it.

http://www.nmessences.com/essences/peace_lily.html

http://www.bngrr.com/2010/05/the-eff...common-plants/

17: Cactus: the best plants to reduce electromagnetic radiation

Cactus has a strong anti-inflammatory sterilization role in dealing with pollution, the cactus is the best plants to reduce electromagnetic radiation. In addition, absorption of carbon dioxide and release oxygen at night cactus. Placed inside the bedroom at night cactus, you can add oxygen, beneficial to sleep.

Preparing to turn my home into a jungle

[waymarker]

Originally Posted by rolf harris

Ha ha yes that's not such a bad idea because of all sorts of electromagnetic radiation around nowadays!
In fact i suspect cases of epilepsy and other neurological maladies are on the rise because of it, although i can't prove it yet because the governments are no doubt predictably hushing it up so as not to offend the big moblie phone giants.
I don't use a mob phone but if i did, no way hozay would i risk frying my brain by holding it near my ear.
A few years ago scientists fitted albatrosses with small radio transmitters round their necks to monitor their migration routes, but nearly all the birds got lost and died; the boffins won't admit it but it's possible the radio waves scrambled their brains and they couldn't navigate properly.