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Old 04-07-2011, 02:04 PM   #1
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Trial hears Gaddafi 'mason' claim
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A key witness claimed he was related to a Libyan king and that Colonel Gaddafi was involved in an international masonic conspiracy, the Lockerbie trial has heard.

Abdul Majid Giaka, 40, was said by the defence to have made the statements to his CIA handlers.

Giaka, a Libyan defector who now lives under protection in the US, is being cross-examined by lawyers for the two accused who are trying to discredit his evidence.

Bill Taylor QC referred to a previously secret CIA cable dated late 1989 which suggested the double agent be "cut off without a penny" from 1 January 1990 unless he came up with useful information.

He suggested Giaka came up with vital new evidence within hours of a make-or-break meeting with CIA agents and US Department of Justice officials.

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The two accused are Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, 48, and Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah, 44
Pan Am Flight 103 exploded over Lockerbie on 21 December, 1988, killing all 259 people on board and another 11 on the ground
The two men deny three charges - murder, conspiracy to murder and a breach of the 1982 Aviation Security Act
The trial is taking place in a Scottish courtroom at Camp Zeist, in the Netherlands
The case is being heard by three Scottish judges
On his first day in court Tuesday, Giaka said he saw the two accused in Malta in December 1988 arriving from Tripoli with a brownish Samsonite suitcase.

Mr Taylor said this incident had not been mentioned to the CIA minders in Malta. "The whole business of the brown Samsonite suitcase is an invention that comes along late in the day," he said.

Giaka replied: "I had no interest in telling anybody any lies."

In the murder indictment against them, Megrahi and Fhimah allegedly packed Semtex plastic explosives and a timer into a Toshiba radio cassette recorder that was then concealed in a Samsonite suitcase.

That suitcase was then, it is alleged, put onto a flight out of Malta, tagged for transfer in London onto Pan American Flight 103 on 21 December, 1988.

'Devious concoction

Mr Taylor suggested that Giaka's description of being shown a stash of explosives in the Libyan Arab Airlines office at Malta airport, where he worked with the defendants, was a "downright lie".

He told Giaka: "That was a complete fabrication by you and it was carefully thought out to be uncheckable. This was entirely deviously concocted by you."

Giaka, who is giving evidence under strict security with his identity disguised from the public gallery, insisted he was telling the truth.

Richard Keen, defending Fhimah, said Giaka had told US agents he was a relative of King Idris of Libya and that Colonel Gaddafi was involved in an international masonic plot.

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Mr Keen asked the same question six times: "How did you discover that Colonel Gadaffi is a mason?"

The witness repeatedly asked Mr Keen for the source of his question before being ordered to answer by the presiding judge Lord Sutherland.

"I know that from a person but I can't divulge the name of that person.

"The person is in Libya and for security considerations I can't mention the name of that person," he added.

Giaka said he never claimed he was related to King Idris. The comment might have arisen from a translation error during an interview with the CIA.

Mr Keen declared: "Mr Giaka, you are a liar, aren't you? You tell big lies and you tell small lies, but you lie, do you not?"

He replied: "I do not lie about anything."

The trial continues.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:10 PM   #2
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Good find ET , i didnt know about this at the time. I allways knew gaddafi was a mason though so obvious...

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Mods would you merge this thread with the other one please?
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Well, clearly the mods never come here.

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Mods would you merge this thread with the other one please?

PM them mate.

As for Gaddafi. Well I was saying he was controlled opposition, but I got the usual shit that I'm a zionist shill.

I'm mean it's fucking obvious that the Illuminati and all their secret society connections have had hundreds of years to fulfill their plan anyone in power today, all over the world is only there on their say so.

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The guy who accused Gaddafi of being a mason was a loyalist to the monarch(the king molested children which is a masonic ritual) who Gaddafi overthrew, not to mention he was paid a million dollars to lie during the trial which convicted Al Megrahi, when the Pan am bombing was carried out by the CIA in order to murder CIA agents on board who were about to blow the whistle on a massive CIA drug running opposition. Anyone who would believe anything this witness says is extremely guilible. This witness has absolutely no credibility.

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The guy who accused Gaddafi of being a mason was a loyalist to the monarch(the king molested children which is a masonic ritual) who Gaddafi overthrew, not to mention he was paid a million dollars to lie during the trial which convicted Al Megrahi, when the Pan am bombing was carried out by the CIA in order to murder CIA agents on board who were about to blow the whistle on a massive CIA drug running opposition. Anyone who would believe anything this witness says is extremely guilible. This witness has absolutely no credibility.
Are you saying Gaddaffi is not a mason?


I think the evidence is incontravertible that the man is a mason.

He gives a very distinctive masonic handshake.

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/

What interests me however is whether the Lockerbie bombing was some kind of masonic conspiracy.
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Are you saying Gaddaffi is not a mason?


I think the evidence is incontravertible that the man is a mason.

He gives a very distinctive masonic handshake.

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/

What interests me however is whether the Lockerbie bombing was some kind of masonic conspiracy.
I dont know if Gaddafi is a mason or not, but I wouldn't base any speculation soley on a handshake, I mean come on, some of this handshake paranoia on websites is ridiculous at times. I would say that I do not see anything historically that Gaddafi has done that would appear to go along with any masonic agenda, in fact completely the opposite.
It is possible I suppose, but I think I would need more proof than just a few photos of supposed handshakes, I mean I'm sure everyone has done something similar to one of those handshakes, or thrown up the diablo sign at one point in time.
I would also like to point out that one of the Illuminati's main tricks is to descredit legitimate oppositon to their agenda, by claiming the opposition is part of them, or part of the conspiracy. This is all classic cointelpro, and is used to cause in fighting amongst opposition groups.
Regarding the Lockerbie bombing, of course it was a masonic conspiracy, but it had nothing to do with Gaddafi and everything to do with the CIA's drug dealing. Remember CIA was created by Skull and Bones another Freemasonic offshoot.
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What interests me however is whether the Lockerbie bombing was some kind of masonic conspiracy.
Well it was performed on the Winter Solstice...

The passenger list had a notable number of prominent people on board also along with 'at least' four US Intelligence (not how I would describe them) Officers..

I would rate this as 90% certain it was a ritual killing.


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Thursday, March 10, 2011
LIBYA, LINDAUER, LOCKERBIE

Susan Lindauer

On 9 March 2011, at Scoop - News, Susan Lindauer has an article entitled: "Lockerbie Diary: Gadhaffi, Fall Guy for CIA Drug Running."

Lindauer worked for the CIA.

She writes:

For years I was told the terrorist who placed the bomb on board Pan Am 103, known as the Lockerbie bombing, lives about 8 miles from my house, in Fairfax County, Virginia.

His life-time of privilege and protection, gratis of high flyers in U.S. Intelligence, has been a reward for silence on the CIA's involvement in drug trafficking in Lebanon during the 1980s...

From May 1995 until March 2003, I performed as a back channel to Tripoli and Baghdad, supervised by my CIA handler, Dr. Richard Fuisz, who claimed from day one to know the origins of the Lockerbie conspiracy and the identity of the terrorists.

http://issuepedia.org/1998-12-04_Sus...uer_Deposition

He swore that no Libyan participated in the attack.

... Our team engaged in a concerted fight to gain permission for Dr. Fuisz to give a deposition about his primary knowledge of the conspiracy, during the Lockerbie Trial...

The U.S. Federal Judge in Alexandria, Virginia imposed a double seal on a crucial portion of Dr. Fuisz's deposition.

The double seal can only be opened by a Scottish Judge...

Testimony hidden by the double seal maps out the whole Lockerbie conspiracy...


During the Lockerbie talks, Dr. Fuisz's allegations of CIA opium running in Lebanon received unusual corroboration...

An older spook caught up with me in front of the U.S. Supreme Court...

According to him, the CIA infiltrated opium and heroin trafficking in Lebanon...

Where the CIA went far wrong was in pocketing some of those heroin profits for itself along the way.

The dirty little secret is that the CIA continued to take a percentage cut of opium and heroin production out of Lebanon well into the 1990s...

In December 1988, infuriated Defense Intelligence agents issued a formal protest, exposing CIA complicity in Middle East heroin trafficking.

When teams from both agencies got summoned back to Washington to attend an internal hearing, they boarded Pan Am 103...

Abdelbasset Megrahi got convicted (on the most flimsy circumstantial evidence that overlooked endless contradictions).

Libya paid $2.7 billion in damages—amounting to $10 million per family death— to make the U.N. sanctions go away, and expressed a sort of non-apology for the deaths—while never acknowledging its involvement in the conspiracy.

So Libya was innocent the whole time?

In a word, yes...
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US paid reward to Lockerbie witness, Abdelbaset al-Megrahi papers claimScottish detectives discussed secret payments of up to $3m made to witness and his brother, documents claim
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Abdelbaset al-Megrahi's documents would have formed part of an appeal against his conviction for the Lockerbie bombing. Photograph: Danny Lawson/PA


Two key figures in the conviction of the Lockerbie bomber were secretly given rewards of up to $3m (£1.9m) in a deal discussed by Scottish detectives and the US government, according to legal papers released today.

The claims about the payments were revealed in a dossier of evidence that was intended to be used in an appeal by Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, the Libyan convicted of murdering 270 people in the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 in 1988.

Megrahi abandoned his appeal last month after the Libyan and Scottish governments struck a deal to free him on compassionate grounds because he is terminally ill with prostate cancer. Now in hospital in Tripoli, Megrahi said he wanted the public to see the evidence which he claims would have cleared him.

"I continue to protest my innocence – how could I fail to do so?," he said. "I have no desire to add to the upset of many people I know are profoundly affected by what happened in Lockerbie. My intention is only for the truth to be made known."
The documents published online by Megrahi's lawyers today show that the US Department of Justice (DoJ) was asked to pay $2m to Tony Gauci, the Maltese shopkeeper who gave crucial evidence at the trial suggesting that Megrahi had bought clothes later used in the suitcase that allegedly held the Lockerbie bomb.

The DoJ was also asked to pay a further $1m to his brother, Paul Gauci, who did not give evidence but played a major role in identifying the clothing and in "maintaining the resolve of his brother". The DoJ said their rewards could be increased and that the brothers were also eligible for the US witness protection programme, according to the documents.

The previously secret payments were uncovered by the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (SCCRC), which returned Megrahi's conviction to the court of appeal in 2007 as a suspected miscarriage of justice. Many references were in private diaries kept by the detectives involved, Megrahi's lawyers said, but not their official notebooks.

The SCCRC was unable to establish exactly how much the brothers received under the DoJ's "reward-for-justice" programme but found it was after Megrahi's trial and his first appeal in 1992 was thrown out.

A memo written by "DI Dalgleish" to "ACC Graham" in 2007 confirms the men received "substantial payments from the American authorities".

The inspector claims the rewards were "engineered" after Megrahi's trial and appeal were over, but said there was "a real danger that if [the] SCCRC's statement of reasons is leaked to the media, Anthony Gauci could be portrayed as having given flawed evidence for financial reward." Instead, he claimed, the reward was intended to ensure the Gaucis could afford to leave Malta and start new lives "to avoid media and other unwanted attention".

However, the documents disclose that in 1989 the FBI told Dumfries and Galloway police that they wanted to offer Gauci "unlimited money" and $10,000 immediately. Gauci began talking of a possible reward in meetings with Dumfries and Galloway detectives in 1991, when a reward application was first made to the DoJ.

The evidence, which was due to be heard by the appeal court next month, also discloses that Gauci was visited 50 times by Scottish detectives before the trial and new testimony contradicting the prosecution's claims that Megrahi bought the clothes on 7 December 1988 – the only day he was in Malta during the critical period.

In 23 police interviews, Gauci gave contradictory evidence about who he believed bought the clothes, the person's age, appearance and the date of purchase. Two identification experts hired by Megrahi's appeal team said the police and prosecution breached the rules on witness interviews, using "suggestive" lines of questioning and allowing "irregular" identification line-ups.

Two new witnesses also disproved the prosecution claim that Megrahi was in Gauci's shop on 7 December, his lawyers said. Gauci said the area's Christmas lights were not on when the clothes were bought. The current Maltese high commissioner to the UK, Michael Rufalo, then the local MP, told the SCCRC the lights were switched on on 6 December, raising further inconsistencies in the prosecution case.

It has also emerged that Scottish police did not tell Megrahi's lawyers that another witness, David Wright, had seen two different Libyan men buying very similar clothes on a different day; evidence that psychologists believe may have confused Gauci and again clouded the prosecution case.

Dumfries and Galloway police said only a court could properly consider this material, and supported previous criticism of Megrahi's decision to release his appeal papers by Elish Angiolini, the lord advocate. "We will not be taking part in any discussion or debate concerning the selective publications made by Mr Megrahi," a statement said.

"We have nothing more to add other than to echo the lord advocate's recent comments pointing out that Mr Megrahi was convicted unanimously by three senior judges and his conviction was upheld unanimously by five judges, in an appeal court presided over by the lord justice general, Scotland's most senior judge. Mr Megrahi remains convicted of the worst terrorist atrocity in UK history."

A spokesman for the US Department of Justice also refused to comment, since Megrahi had voluntarily withdrawn his appeal. He said: "None of the allegations in the SCCRC referral, or the grounds of appeal filed by Megrahi, were finally adjudicated by the Scottish High Court of Justiary (the appropriate judicial forum) because Megrahi withdrew his appeal before the court could rule. Consequently, the U.S. Department of Justice will not comment further on his aborted appeal."
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