DNA Can Discern Between Two Quantum States

[radova]

ScienceDaily (June 4, 2011) — Do the principles of quantum mechanics apply to biological systems? Until now, says Prof. Ron Naaman of the Institute's Chemical Physics Department (Faculty of Chemistry), both biologists and physicists have considered quantum systems and biological molecules to be like apples and oranges. But research he conducted together with scientists in Germany, which appeared recently in Science, shows that a biological molecule -- DNA -- can discern between quantum states known as spin.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0331104014.htm

[firstlook]

interesting. "The field" or whatever you want to call it is something that I am still learning about. I dont know the mechanics of how everything oozes into "reality" but spin does seem to be one of the three major guidelines to observation in our known universe. Space time and spin seem to create light sound and density as far as I'm concerned and it all falls on the "theory" of observation that dictates how we understand and tap into bigger cycles and boundaries that are initially and "supposedly" beyond our capable minds.

Thanks for posting.

[radova]

Here is my theory :-) A non-related research in the emerging technology of quantum computing proposed spin-polarization of electrons as an information carrier. Since DNA is sensitive to this spin-polarization it is possible that some kind of information exchange is taking place inside the DNA. But, what is the source of this information?

[firstlook]

Originally Posted by radova

Here is my theory :-) A non-related research in the emerging technology of quantum computing proposed spin-polarization of electrons as an information carrier. Since DNA is sensitive to this spin-polarization it is possible that some kind of information exchange is taking place inside the DNA. But, what is the source of this information?

Thats where I get confused. How can their be a field of information if its not realized or observed in connection with Time and space and vice versa?

Verndewd could probably break it down for you. Ask him.

[verndewd]

Originally Posted by radova

Here is my theory :-) A non-related research in the emerging technology of quantum computing proposed spin-polarization of electrons as an information carrier. Since DNA is sensitive to this spin-polarization it is possible that some kind of information exchange is taking place inside the DNA. But, what is the source of this information?

all information is accessible at the zero point. the point where atoms are wavelengths of energy. The same principal is a key aspect in what is called psychic ability etc.

This breakthrough is fairly late as many quantum thinkers have been predisposed to think dna atoms act in the same way any "non biological atoms act. But not just DNA there are 7 nonillion atoms in the human body ,composing 27trillion cells, and each atoms strong and weak nuclear force "signals" one million times a second.

quantum entanglement carries those signals the thickness of the milky way every year. All atomic signals are data and all of it can be downloaded and assembled into tangible working ideas and theories about the nature of existence. That is in fact how we created this technological age.

It comes by learning to observe and inspiration, as observation isnt the useable part but through inspiration derived from astute observation we come to learn how to test what our observations teach us. Observation is passive, when inspiration strikes that is the object itself explaining its makeup, what we observe actually teaches us how to use it etc.inspiration creates understanding through excercise.



You can view observation as a meditation and through this technique were able to bond with the basic information of anything and eventually explain it. thats in part , quantum entanglement. Those atomic signals reitterated so many times it creates a distinct visualization in the back of the mind as all vbisualizations from what we see to what we think randomly display pictures in the back of the brain through electromechanical processes. When it comes down to brass tax its all electromagnetic . And it is all binary data, 0's and ones, on and off states and on/off at the same time .

the axiom of the brains nerves actually compute quantumly; on / off /onoff all register in the axiom, that, by its very nature will connect and entangle with any assembly of particles and access the data contained in it.

[verndewd]

http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/

[amaralsright]

Someone just tell me if the cat is dead or not.

I can't sleep thinking about the poor thing.

[verndewd]

Originally Posted by amaralsright

Someone just tell me if the cat is dead or not.

I can't sleep thinking about the poor thing.

That answer passed with shroedinger only he can answer it.

[verndewd]

http://journalofcosmology.com/Consciousness160.html


5. The Nature of Quantum Mechanics and its Fundamental Problem

The term 'quantum' refers to a discrete element of energy in a system, such as the energy E of a particle, or of some other subsystem, this energy being related to a fundamental frequency ν of its oscillation, according to Max Planck's famous formula (where h is Planck's constant):



 E = h ν.
This deep relation between discrete energy levels and frequencies of oscillation underlies the wave/particle duality inherent in quantum phenomena. Neither the word “particle” nor the word “wave” adequately conveys the true nature of a basic quantum entity, but both provide useful partial pictures.

The laws governing these submicroscopic quantum entities differ from those governing our everyday classical world. For example, quantum particles can exist in two or more states or locations simultaneously, where such a multiple coexisting superposition of alternatives (each alternative being weighted by a complex number) would be described mathematically by a quantum wavefunction. We don't see superpositions in the consciously perceived world; we see objects and particles as material, classical things in specific locations and states.

Another quantum property is 'non-local entanglement,' in which separated components of a system become unified, the entire collection of components being governed by one common quantum wavefunction. The parts remain somehow connected, even when spatially separated by significant distances (e.g. over 10 kilometres, Tittel et al., 1998). Quantum superpositions of bit states (quantum bits, or qubits) can be interconnected with one another through entanglement in quantum computers. However, quantum entanglements cannot, by themselves, be used to send a message from one part of an entangled system to another; yet entanglement can be used in conjunction with classical signaling to achieve strange effects—such as the strange phenomenon referred to as quantum teleportation—that classical signalling cannot achieve by itself (e.g. Bennett and Wiesner, 1992; Bennett et al., 1993; Bouwmeester et al., 1997; Macikic et al., 2002).

The issue of why we don't directly perceive quantum superpositions is a manifestation of the measurement problem referred to in Section 4. Put more precisely, the measurement problem is the conflict between the two fundamental procedures of quantum mechanics. One of these procedures, referred to as unitary evolution, denoted here by U, is the continuous deterministic evolution of the quantum state (i.e. of the wavefunction of the entire system) according to the fundamental Schrödinger equation, The other is the procedure that is adopted whenever a measurement of the system—or observation—is deemed to have taken place, where the quantum state is discontinuously and probabilistically replaced by another quantum state (referred to, technically, as an eigenstate of a mathematical operator that is taken to describe the measurement). This discontinuous jumping of the state is referred to as the reduction of the state (or the 'collapse of the wavefunction'), and will be denoted here by the letter R. The conflict that is termed the measurement problem (or perhaps more accurately as the measurement paradox) arises when we consider the measuring apparatus itself as a quantum entity, which is part of the entire quantum system consisting of the original system under observation together with this measuring apparatus. The apparatus is, after all, constructed out of the same type of quantum ingredients (electrons, photons, protons, neutrons etc.—or quarks and gluons etc.) as is the system under observation, so it ought to be subject also to the same quantum laws, these being described in terms of the continuous and deterministic U. How, then, can the discontinuous and probabilistic R come about as a result of the interaction (measurement) between two parts of the quantum system? This is the measurement problem (or paradox).

[wez004]

Originally Posted by amaralsright

Someone just tell me if the cat is dead or not.

I can't sleep thinking about the poor thing.

Everytime I opened the box the cat was dead. Poor Tigger and Hudson I did love them.

[verndewd]

Originally Posted by wez004

Everytime I opened the box the cat was dead. Poor Tigger and Hudson I did love them.

you opened the box in your offstate

Try opening it in a superposition he'll be alive and dead at the same time.

[white rabbit]

Originally Posted by wez004

Everytime I opened the box the cat was dead. Poor Tigger and Hudson I did love them.

really? open the box again, maybe is alive now

[igillman]

Originally Posted by firstlook

interesting. "The field" or whatever you want to call it is something that I am still learning about. I dont know the mechanics of how everything oozes into "reality" but spin does seem to be one of the three major guidelines to observation in our known universe. Space time and spin seem to create light sound and density as far as I'm concerned and it all falls on the "theory" of observation that dictates how we understand and tap into bigger cycles and boundaries that are initially and "supposedly" beyond our capable minds.

Basically put, there are two types of particle. Those with integer spin (1, 2 etc...) and those with non-integer spin (1/2, 3/2 etc...). The particles with non-integer spin form what we call "matter" (electrons, protons, neutrons etc...) and are known collectively as "fermions". The particles with integer spin are what interacts with matter such as photons and gravitons and are known collectively as "bosons".

One of the major differences between the two is that in any system two or more fermions cannot occupy the same quantum state. This is known as the Pauli exclusion principle and accounts for radioactive decay and many other things we can observe.

[verndewd]

also one might wonder by what process were capable of envisioning these quantum processes to gain insight that leads to inspiration and etc.

wel the fact of the matter is the space between you and the object is actually densly packed atoms that form a chain of quantum interaction and entanglement. every atom of air be it oxygen or carbon and etc carries electrons which entangle in chains from viewer to object. Here is an example.

I was speaking with my neighbor on two occaisions where I had a telepathic experience, my mind entered her minds eye and I experienced what she was visualizing, she didnt deny that it happened when I confronted her. the nature of it isnt really relevant but she had a similar experience on the second occurance.

That strong signalling is all part of the quantum entanglement electromagnetic transferrance from one set of transcievers to another, the axioms and microtubules in the brain. in one instance I was standing 2 feet from her and in the other I was relieving her headache with pressure points at the base of the skull.

so in instance 1 there was no direct contact and in instance 2 there was direct contact of electrons and biophotons. The imagery I and she recieved was due to the axioms processing the reception of electromagnetice pulses from either source.

Its like when you have been with a girlfriend for long enough that when you think of a song she puts the cd in, and that phrenomenon has been admitted by people who really think I am whacked out of my head for discussions such as these.

The same principals apply to every facet of our existence at any level. even the sub plank scale because thats where it all begins. Matter is actually much slower than the quantum level of experience as justified by studies that show the electron moving far slower in the body than the minds reaction to stimuli. About the calculated difference that quantum entanglement is 10kx the speed of light.