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Old 14-04-2011, 12:34 AM   #21
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Thought you were taking a break
Not decided yet



I will miss you all if i go!

Well..

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Old 14-04-2011, 04:52 AM   #22
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In little over a week we are to see if bible predictions are true and I wondered if anyone is actually preparing for this event and possibly saying goodbye to a few loved ones who may not make it.



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2. Christ is said to have hung on the cross on April 1, 33 AD. The time between April 1, 33 AD and April 1, 2011 is 1,978 years.
Christ, if he existed was born between 4 BC and 6 BC. The reason being is that the calendar was changed.

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So, the 'rapture' must have happend already but it didn't and this proves Camping's calculations are wrong. Then of course the whole thing could be a load of nonsense, which I strongly suspect it is.
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Old 14-04-2011, 05:47 AM   #23
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im ready anyway.

to be loved by god, you just have2acknowledge him.

i believe in a creator, so......ready.

but im not sure if i want to share heaven with bible nutters+celibate fascists.
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Old 14-04-2011, 05:57 AM   #24
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im ready anyway.

to be loved by god, you just have2acknowledge him.

i believe in a creator, so......ready.

but im not sure if i want to share heaven with bible nutters+celibate fascists.
I've always thought you are a Atheist hada
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Old 14-04-2011, 06:02 AM   #25
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I've always thought you are a Atheist hada
well, i think ALL religions, including paganism, satanism, zeusism AND atheism are poisonous fairytales.

but i do believe that some thing created the universe+all.

something must have created it.

if it was a brewin photon soup which bigbanged, then thats my god/creator.
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Old 14-04-2011, 06:13 AM   #26
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Be careful of what you wish for:


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Old 14-04-2011, 06:27 AM   #27
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Religious people will eventually have to end their charades and realise they are just missing the boat with their devotion to deities.
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Old 14-04-2011, 07:28 AM   #28
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Christians that believe in the Rapture are almost universally the "Jesus Camp"/Evangleical kind. I have never met an orthodox, catholic or Anglican christian that subscribes to the notion.

I find the enthusiasm for the idea particularly repugnant: me and my friends will be saved by God and you guys will all be destroyed.

In fact I can't think of anything less christian; instead of praying for the salvation of the world and divine mercy they are spitefully gleeful about the supposed impending disaster.

Of course there is a secular counterpart to this group: the survivalists. Not the people prudently preparing to look after their loved ones in the event of disaster/collapseof civilisation etc.

No I am talking about those salivating in anticipation of the death and suffering of millions while gloating that cos they have their guns/bunker/webbot warnings or whatver they will be around to laugh and say I told you so.

Oddly enough they often refer tothemselves as "patriots" which if you think about it, is nearly as absurd as Rapture Ready nutters callinjg themselves christians.

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Old 14-04-2011, 07:34 AM   #29
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Old 14-04-2011, 09:17 AM   #30
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By the way there is a strong connection with the notion of rapture and Christian Zionism.

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Dispensationalism is a nineteenth-century evangelical development based on a biblical hermeneutic that sees a series of chronologically successive "dispensations" or periods in history in which God relates to human beings in different ways under different Biblical covenants. As a system, dispensationalism is rooted in the writings of John Nelson Darby (1800–1882) and the Brethren Movement.[1]:10 The theology of dispensationalism consists of a distinctive eschatological "end times" perspective, as all dispensationalists hold to premillennialism and most hold to a pretribulation rapture. Dispensationalists believe that the nation of Israel (not necessarily the same as the state of Israel) is distinct from the Christian Church,[2]:322 and that God has yet to fulfill His promises to national Israel. These promises include the land promises, which in the future result in a millennial kingdom where Christ, upon His return, will rule the world from Jerusalem[3] for a thousand years. In other areas of theology, dispensationalists hold to a wide range of beliefs within the evangelical and fundamentalist spectrum.[1]:13

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Hmmm neo cons, fundies, Mormons and Branch Davidians.
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Old 14-04-2011, 09:23 AM   #31
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hellyeah dawg! bring it on! i'll be crossbowing the fire-ants and skulls with wings and the zombies like a motherfucker.
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Old 14-04-2011, 11:02 AM   #32
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I will miss you all if i go!

Well..
Well... Icke's forums would be better without the endless arguments with Christians.
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Old 14-04-2011, 11:29 AM   #33
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well, i think ALL religions, including paganism, satanism, zeusism AND atheism are poisonous fairytales.

but i do believe that some thing created the universe+all.

something must have created it.

if it was a brewin photon soup which bigbanged, then thats my god/creator.
Not sure of the big bang but I think you might have a valid point when you talk about photons which, being without mass, are tiny bundles (or waves) of information.
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Old 14-04-2011, 07:47 PM   #34
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Not sure of the big bang but I think you might have a valid point when you talk about photons which, being without mass, are tiny bundles (or waves) of information.
not to sound like a wiseguy, but bigbang happened, its still observable in various ways.

im not sure if it was the first, though.

nice theory on photons btw.
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