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Old 25-12-2009, 12:27 PM   #21
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Thanks for that compelling read, Haze.

There's a book about Bob by Stephen Davis. There's a section taken from Bob's time in Issels' clinic. He's listening to Uprising and singing "weee can make it work" whilst looking straight at Issels. Issels replied [I]"yes, I believe we can".

In 1984, I met a sound engineer who was working with Aswad in 1981. They were on the road at the time of Bob's death. He remembers coming into their dressing room when the news hit and all the band were sat around crying.
I read Davis' book, some of the quotes in my article are from that book.

On the day he passed on to the spiritual motherland, Holy Mount Zion, an enormous peal of thunder indicated that a great soul had departed this Earth and a bolt of lightning rent the darkened skies... The flash lit up my room and illuminated Bob's picture on the wall, his friends Neville Garrick and Judy Mowatt described an identical experience in Jamaica. Bob was dead and I was desolate, but his mission was complete and he had encouraged many to reject the trappings of Babylon.... R.I.P.

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Old 25-12-2009, 08:10 PM   #22
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I read Davis' book, some of the quotes in my article are from that book.

On the day he passed on to the spiritual motherland, Holy Mount Zion, an enormous peal of thunder indicated that a great soul had departed this Earth and a bolt of lightning rent the darkened skies... The flash lit up my room and illuminated Bob's picture on the wall, his friends Neville Garrick and Judy Mowatt described an identical experience in Jamaica. Bob was dead and I was desolate, but his mission was complete and he had encouraged many to reject the trappings of Babylon.... R.I.P.
There's an incredible moment during the One Love Peace Concert where he's freestyling, asking the Jamaican prime minister and leader of the opposition to come on stage.....thunder strikes in rhythm him, you probably know it well....I thought it was a sound effect at first, it's real.... at 2:17

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Old 13-08-2010, 11:47 AM   #23
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Its not just bob who was killed for trying to speak the truth about the goverment & the controls through of the goverment. Michael Jackson-Murdered.Tupac-Murdered,Jimmy Hendics-Murdered,James Brown the list goes on, & on.

Muscians still alive who sing the truth DMX he started to sing the truth,ended up in prison for it, Eminem his new album Recovery, notice Eminem no longer sings of hate & termoil, he now is standing up & trying explain through his words about how evil the worlds goverments are & how he's making a Stand.His new album speaks of love and togetherness, far crie from what he used to sing about don't you think

They are all trying to wake us up through there music, & it is working more and more people are waking up to the fact we humans live in a cage that is are reality, but not for long. Type in the name of the singers I have stated & type illuminati or NWO right next to there name, you will get a wealth of info.

Peace out peeps stay strong.
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Old 13-08-2010, 01:26 PM   #24
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i agree, 2pac, bob marley, john lennon were killed because they spoke out against the elite and the agenda.

also eminem's tone has changed, his new album is more upbeat.

true about dmx aswell, he has had alot of stuff thrown at him over the last 10 years.

at the moment my fave is damian marley, he is carrying on his dad's work, bob would be proud of him.
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Old 13-08-2010, 02:38 PM   #25
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the marely sons have definetly carried the torch well love there music i def believe bob is living thru them, damian and nas new album is very political hope it doesnt bring any harm
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The Marley family's work and their alignment with other conscious artists, has helped to keep their father's energy out there. What hampers them I would say is that they're in a time period where reggae isn't the contemporary youth culture.

When Bob died, reggae occupied a similar position to the one that hip hop held in the late 80s and early 90s. In 1981, there were still many great reggae artists who were set to occupy the space left by Marley's passing. But the major record labels pretty much sat upon roots music and as the eighties went on, it was the more party oriented dancehall, lovers rock, more "radio friendly" reggae and pop with a reggae tinge that carried the swing. Roots reggae seems to be marginal yet again.
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Reggae music is a grounding Earth music, it's gives off a completely different vib to rock'n roll. Imo it helps clear out the chakras, when you hear it the body wants to move (like in chi kung you get chi flow) - a good example of this is the song Exodus which is all about movement.



Whatever about his son, Bob Marley was the most awakened main stream artist I've ever come across. The likes of John Lennon might have been more well known (and coming towards the end of his life he appeared to get what was going on) but Bob was on another level. You can tell from his lyrics and what he said in interviews.


I remember reading part of Alex Constantines "The Covert War Against Rock" some time ago. I think he said Bob received a present of a pair of boots from Bill Colbys son (former Director of the CIA). Friends of Marley reckoned there was something suspect about the boots - Bob stubbed his toe when he put them on and later died of cancer which started in that foot, I don't know how true this story is.


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Reggae music is a grounding Earth music, it's gives off a completely different vib to rock'n roll. Imo it helps clear out the chakras, when you hear it the body wants to move (like in chi kung you get chi flow) - a good example of this is the song Exodus which is all about movement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NHbOqmNVm8


Whatever about his son, Bob Marley was the most awakened main stream artist I've ever come across. The likes of John Lennon might have been more well known (and coming towards the end of his life he appeared to get what was going on) but Bob was on another level. You can tell from his lyrics and what he said in interviews.


I remember reading part of Alex Constantines "The Covert War Against Rock" some time ago. I think he said Bob received a present of a pair of boots from Bill Colbys son (former Director of the CIA). Friends of Marley reckoned there was something suspect about the boots - Bob stubbed his toe when he put them on and later died of cancer which started in that foot, I don't know how true this story is.


Bob Marley in chi flow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzCL0lP35E
Bob kept the 60s idealism alive in the 1970s, at a time when a lot of other rebellious artists were being absorbed into the establishment (or prematurely dead). Curtis Mayfield I think needs a mention. He was one of Bob's favourites, and his brand of soul always had social conscience. One Love is based on The Impressions 'People Get Ready'.

Marley had the edge on so many other reggae artists. To be honest, I like to listen to old school but I don't follow the music as much now, it's become predictable and cliched musically and lyrically.
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Bob kept the 60s idealism alive in the 1970s, at a time when a lot of other rebellious artists were being absorbed into the establishment (or prematurely dead). Curtis Mayfield I think needs a mention. He was one of Bob's favourites, and his brand of soul always had social conscience. One Love is based on The Impressions 'People Get Ready'.
Yes I agree artists like Bob, Phil Ochs and Joan Baez kept the flame for social change alive in the early 70's. However Bob was someone who didn't self destruct - wisdom shone through in his songs, interviews and how he conducted himself. When many in the rasta movement were allowing themselves be consumed by the ganja Bob took a step back, for him it wasn't all about the herb. He was the one truely awakened artist I've seen - the likes of Pink Floyd, Lennon and others spoke about love and changing things but they were talking about this more than coming from the root. Of course Lee Scratch Perry also had a massive influence on Marley (the madman himself). Lee is way out there but not as crazy as some would like to think.

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Yes I agree artists like Bob, Phil Ochs and Joan Baez kept the flame for social change alive in the early 70's. However Bob was someone who didn't self destruct - wisdom shone through in his songs, interviews and how he conducted himself. When many in the rasta movement were allowing themselves be consumed by the ganja Bob took a step back, for him it wasn't all about the herb. He was the one truely awakened artist I've seen - the likes of Pink Floyd, Lennon and others spoke about love and changing things but they were talking about this more than coming from the root. Of course Lee Scratch Perry also had a massive influence on Marley (the madman himself). Lee is way out there but not as crazy as some would like to think.
The first music biographies I ever read were a couple written about Bob, my favourite being one written by Stephen Davis. What impressed me was his fitness and diet regime. He was out running or playing football most days and paid attention to what he ate. It felt like it was part of the music and its vitality, or 'i-tality'.

Contrast that with a video I saw about Oasis last week. Noel was talking with his usual bravado about when he was heavily into coke. He spoke of it being "the divine right of rock stars....if kids come backstage, they're gonna be disappointed if you're not slumped in a corner with a bottle of Jack Daniels and a few lines there". Now, I don't want to paint Bob as a monk because he did openly indulge in the lifestyle when it came to women, whilst he was married to Rita. But his music and message definitely felt like it was real and had an edge. And the culture around the music promoted health, not heroin.

Scratch is of course a genius. I love the name, as he says, 'everything starts from Scratch'. Bob's singing is hugely influenced by him and I love the recordings he did with Scratch such as Mr Brown and a lot of early versions of later songs.
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The first music biographies I ever read were a couple written about Bob, my favourite being one written by Stephen Davis. What impressed me was his fitness and diet regime. He was out running or playing football most days and paid attention to what he ate. It felt like it was part of the music and its vitality, or 'i-tality'.
Thanks, I'll check that one out.


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Contrast that with a video I saw about Oasis last week. Noel was talking with his usual bravado about when he was heavily into coke. He spoke of it being "the divine right of rock stars....if kids come backstage, they're gonna be disappointed if you're not slumped in a corner with a bottle of Jack Daniels and a few lines there". Now, I don't want to paint Bob as a monk because he did openly indulge in the lifestyle when it came to women, whilst he was married to Rita. But his music and message definitely felt like it was real and had an edge. And the culture around the music promoted health, not heroin.
Yeah that's one thing people tend to say if Bob was so "awake" why was he playing the field when he was married? At the end of the day we're on the outside looking in and I suppose it's all to easy for us to judge. All I know is his music had a vibrancy and aliveness that's lacking in most other mainstream artists.

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Scratch is of course a genius. I love the name, as he says, 'everything starts from Scratch'. Bob's singing is hugely influenced by him and I love the recordings he did with Scratch such as Mr Brown and a lot of early versions of later songs.
To be honest I don't know much about Scratch, he does appear so off the wall it's hard to know what to make of him, - definately a highly talented man though.

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(Without dismissing everything I've written on the thread, I'm revising my views and perspective on this topic. See below for a recent blog I did on the topic)



Celebrity death theories = 'post-mortem rituals'


There's a whole 'subculture' and industry around celebrity deaths now. Michael Jackson, Kurt Cobain, Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix, John Lennon, Jim Morrison - the list goes on (sometimes to include the 'Z' list)

In a very real way, people are now 'celebrating' these individual's death and not the exceptional achievements, the hard work they put into developing and sharing their talents with us.
They have become ritualised post mortems.

Let's be perfectly honest. If the official forensic/legal reports on these deaths do not point to foul play, a freelance journalist who writes a book about how Kurt Cobain was taken out, for example, isn't really going to do much to alter that decision. I've yet to see that, anyway, as well-meaning as they may be.

Bringing it closer to 'home', a thousand pages on how the Illuminati killed MJ doesn't accomplish anything. It's just a way for people to wallow and not move on, as far as I'm concerned.

Lay people are now taking on the tasks that really ought to be left to legal teams and forensic experts. It would be more useful, creative (and literally life affirming) to put as much depth of research into the study of the person's contribution to the art. The things they did when they were alive, not their untimely demise. This would be much more productive and inspirational. As an aside, cultures that acknowledge the energy/influence that venerated souls of the deceased have upon the daily affairs of the community (incorrectly called 'ancestor worship') would understand this concept.

Possibly without intending to do so, this is once again how the conspiracy world focuses our attention upon fear. This is how people have turned the illuminati into God, i.e., they have the power over life and death. OK, if you say so. If you were to read enough celebrity conspiracies, I'm sure that at some point you would take on board the message, 'it's best not to be too knowledgeable and high profile, because things happen to you'. And by the law of 'thoughts manifesting into reality', shit happens to you.

We need to reverse this negative thinking into something more empowering and useful.
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