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Old 05-06-2010, 09:30 PM   #21
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well as for secret societies controling the world , there is no doubt

look at scotland for starters , with the dunblane masacre , covered up by who ?

yeah you got it , the masons

lord (term used lightly) cullen was put under pressure by his masonic peers to hush things up , and there was mr blair 32 degree mason or 33rd (allegedly) standing with the proverbial brush while holding up the rug to sweep it all under and put a big heavy D notice on it , so the public cannot see it for 100 years .

now there was various reasons that Thomas Hamilton was refused a gun lisence , but then again if you are in the brotherhood things can be made much more easier , his friend george who was a lobour backbencher at the time of all this smoothed the way for him to get these guns and most of us know that this horrific crime was done to stop kids from speaking out , now how on this earth did this little man who was right in the middle of one of the biggest masacres and cover ups of all time in uk history become head of the un ????? so it is obvious that he got the golden handshake , with a little knuckle rub , as if he was a lowly backbencher then , like majic rose to the head of the un , aye right !!

now the D notice is served , blair and co can go to war , an illeagal war in the middle east , now this war was not as most blinkered folk would presume to get the big bad man saddam hussein (who the brits put into power to fight iran) it was to go into the middle east to gain control of the region , which would help out israel .

now people what you have really got to think about is , who is controling the world ??

yes there will be many say the PTB , ILLUMINATI blah blah blah

but in stark reality the masonic world is heavily involved in it's part , as you will have read in the documents and testimonies provided in this thread (if you cared to read) that the masons are and do believe that they are the chosen people along side israel

who i feel sorry for are some of the dumb people who enter the brethen thinking that it is a harmless club , well my fellow HUMAN BEINGS i would like you to take a long hard think to yourselves

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Old 05-06-2010, 11:02 PM   #22
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The Ancient and Illustrious Order Knights of Malta
The Royal Black Institution
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http://www.orderstjohn.org/sjcross/ancient.htm



There are a "family" of Orders represented by the two titles, The Ancient and Illustrious Order Knights of Malta and The Royal Black Institution. The history is as follows;

At the turn of the century, in the United States of America there existed no shortage of groups claiming to be Knightly fraternities of St John, owing their origins through Freemasonry, or through the Black Association, ancillary to the Orange Lodges, created for the preservation of a Protestant Ireland.

Chevalier Andrew Ramsey, a Jacobite Catholic Scotsman of humble origins, was at one time secretary to the French writer and Churchman, Fenelon, and a Knight in an Order connected to the Order of St Lazarus. In a speech to a group of French Freemasons, in 1736, Ramsey provided a mediæval antecedent to the Masons with the Order of St John. This provided the beginnings of Masonic 'Orders of John'. In the development of his theme, he also provided the Knights Templar, as part of Freemasonry heritage. This antecedent, whilst having gained popular belief in the past, is now rejected in any academic account of the beginnings of Freemasonry - even by authors within Freemasonry.

Some "Orders of St John" resulting from this development preserve in their histories justification of the connection via Freemasonry to the historic Order. One myth, is that after James Sandiland, the last Scottish Prior, abdicated in 1563, (with the property of the Order in Scotland being given to him as a personal possession by Queen Mary), he and his followers continued a tradition of St John, but as a Protestant organisation, and that after Sandiland's death, the movement merged into Scottish Freemasonry. Another myth, is that, in France, there was some kind of interconnection between Hospitaller Knights and Freemasonry, which introduced the Order of St John into Freemasonry. Roger Peyrefitte provides some substance to a connection in his story of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta being subjected to a Papal Commission in the 1950s which ruled on the nature of its sovereignty. Within Peyrefitte's account is the claim that, a Masonic Lodge existed on Malta, in Grand Master De Rohan's time consisting of Knights, and that this Lodge had been founded by a Knight of the Order.

The Orange Order (or Society as it was first known) was formed in 1795 to maintain Protestant ascendancy in Ireland, and by its name celebrates the victory of William of Orange over the Roman Catholic King James II at the Boyne River in 1690. The development of the Lodges of the Society were heavily influenced by Freemasonry. By 1797, a new organisation emerged intimately connected with the Orange Order, the Royal Black Association of the Knights of Malta. As with the Orange Order, with its system of degrees, so too, did members of the Black Association progress in membership through degrees. The inference by apologists of the "St John/Malta Orders" tracing their origins through the Black Association, is that, Knights of Freemasonry formed the basis of the Black Association. One Author in referring to the Freemasonry Knights, states "the Malta Order in Britain was, in effect, "captured" by the Orange Institution." For example, to be a member of the Black Association, a man had to be a member of the Orange Order, and have first reached the Purple Degree.

In 1807, HRH Ernest Augustus, the Duke of Cumberland became the Grand Master of the Orange Order, but in 1836 owing to a Parliamentary investigation into the Orange Lodges attached to Irish regiments, the Duke dissolved the Orange Order. A year later, in 1837, the Duke became the King of Hanover. The Orange Order, revived in 1845 being kept alive by Lodge members. In common with other British Institutions, branches were formed in Scotland, Ireland, England and Canada, and spreading out from there. The International Headquarters was known by the lengthy and somewhat pompous title of "Imperial Parent Grand Black Encampment of the Universe", with its centre based in Glasgow.

The Black Association was represented in Canada, as early as 1829, with other groups existing there in the 1840s. By 1868, the organisation had spread to New York. The members of the North American organisation, saw themselves very much as the Black Association of the 'Knights of Malta', with more emphasis on the chivalric aspects, and less on the fraternal masonic aspects.

From 1870, the Order in North America began to flourish. In 1874, Robert Ernest Augustus Land was elected as Grand Commander of the Order of the Knights of Malta, and on June 19th 1875, the North American organisation the 'Supreme Grand Black Encampment' of North America was granted autonomy in its affairs by the Imperial Parent. Almost straight away, the American group abolished the need for members to belong to the Orange Order. There was a reduction in the number of degrees from twelve to three. The move away from a fraternal model to the chivalric model of organisation became more marked. These developments strained relationships with the Imperial Grand Parent in the years 1875 to 1881, when on the 4th June 1881 the Imperial Parent cancelled the Warrant which created the American Organisation. Land continued to lead the American organisation, with the loyalists to the Scottish Parents having to re-organise, but like the Independent organisation they also adopted a chivalric model of existence, assuming the name of "Ancient and Illustrious Order of the Knights of Malta". By 1954, relationships by the loyal organisation with the Parent organisation had ceased.

The independent organisation led by Robert Land, with its headquarters in Toronto, was known as the "Knights of St John and Malta". The ditching of the identity of a political-fraternal organisation had left a gap, which was quickly filled, as the Order took on the role of a friendly society in providing insurance for its members, which became a formal part of the Order in 1882, becoming a compulsory element for the members by 1896. According to Formals, this led to a steady decline in membership, which in its turn led to a faction setting up independently in 1906, led by Charles Hayward as the "Order of Knights Hospitaller". In January 1908, Hayward's group held a meeting at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York, in an attempt to enlarge its membership with prominent persons. By 1921, the organisation had ceased existence.

In 1910, owing to 10 deaths, and the inability of the Scheme to make proper payments, the Order of the Knights of St John and Malta was subjected to an investigation by the Superintendent of Insurance of the State of New York, which issued an order of liquidation. As a result of the investigations, the Order's Grand Chancellor, Henry C. Siegman committed suicide. These events led to a near collapse of the Order. The Grand Priory of Canada became independent, and Arthur T. Lamson in a bid to create a continuing organisation led a further group called "The Knights of Malta", which registered itself as a Corporation in the State of Jersey in 1911. However by 1912 the group had become defunct, with the members re-joining the main organisation, which despite, the disgrace over the insurance problems, and severe loss of membership, had managed to continue its existence.

In 1928, the Knights of St John and Malta increased it membership, by the reconciliation with the Canadian Priory, and by the addition of Knights who claimed to have been part of the historic Spanish Order. The name of the Order was changed to "The Sovereign Order of St John and Malta". By the 1950s, the central administration of the Order had fallen into abeyance, leaving two Commanderies operating independently, that of Pennsylvania, led by Franklin A. West, and California (known as the Priory of the Pacific) led by Robert Formhals. This group joined the self-styled "Pichel Order".
Robert Formhals a member of one of the surviving Commanderies argues that the Order separated from Pichel and was adopted as the basis of the King Peter Order. There is one short history on this web site that follows this point of view.
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The House of Orange-Nassau (in Dutch: Huis van Oranje-Nassau), a branch of the European House of Nassau, has played a central role in the political life of the Netherlands — and at times in Europe — since William I of Orange (also known as "William the Silent" and "Father of the Fatherland") organized the Dutch revolt against Spanish rule , which after the Eighty Years' War led to an independent Dutch state.

Several members of the house served during this war and after as governor or stadtholder (Dutch stadhouder). However, in 1815, after a long period as a republic, the Netherlands became a monarchy under the House of Orange-Nassau.

The dynasty was established as a result of the marriage of Hendrik III of Nassau-Breda from Germany and Claudia of Châlon-Orange from French Burgundy in 1515. Their son Rene inherited in 1530 the Principality of Orange from his mother's brother, Philibert of Châlon. As the first Nassau to be the Prince of Orange, Rene' could have used "Orange-Nassau" as his new family name. However, his uncle, in his will, had stipulated that Rene' should continue the use of the name Châlon-Orange. History knows him therefore as René of Châlon. After the death of René in 1544 his cousin William of Nassau-Dillenburg inherited all his lands. This "William I of Orange" - in English better known as William the Silent - became the founder of the House of Orange-Nassau.

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"See also
Dutch monarchy
Orange Institution
Order of Orange-Nassau
William III of England"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_o...odern_monarchy

This is bilderberg, the "illuminati", nwo.

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Old 06-06-2010, 02:06 PM   #25
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IT IS OK....there not a bigoted organisation it is all the other sides fault what century are we living in here.

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The "Bigoted" Orange Oath?

The qualifications of an Orangeman are freely available to anyone who wishes and it could be said that the people who call Orangemen Bigots have obviously never read them.

broxburndistrict31.org.uk has obtained two oaths from Sinn Fein/IRA and the Roman Catholic group "The Knights of St. Columba" that make very interesting and frankly shocking reading.

When the Northern Ireland assembly was in progress all Sinn Fein/IRA's representatives took at least one of these oaths including the minister for education.

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The Qualifications of an Orangeman

An Orangeman should have a sincere love and veneration for his Heavenly Father; a humble and steadfast faith in Jesus Christ, the Saviour of mankind, believing in him as the only mediator between God and man.

He should cultivate truth and justice, brotherly kindness and charity, devotion and piety, concord and unity, and obedience to the laws; his deportment should be gentle and compassionate, kind and courteous; he should seek the society of the virtuous, and avoid that of the evil; he should honour and diligently study the Holy Scriptures, and make them the rule of his faith and practice; he should love, uphold, and defend the Protestant religion, and sincerely desire and endeavour to propagate its doctrines and precepts.

He should strenuously oppose the fatal errors and doctrines of the Church of Rome, and scrupulously avoid countenancing (by his presence or otherwise) any act or ceremony of Popish worship; he should by all lawful means, resist the ascendancy of that Church, its encroachments, and the extension of its power, ever abstaining from all uncharitable words, actions, or sentiments, towards his Roman Catholic brethren.

He should remember to keep holy the Sabbath day, and attend public worship of God, and diligently train up his offspring, and all under his control, in the fear of God, and in the Protestant faith; he should never take the name of God in vain, but abstain from all cursing and profane language, and use every opportunity of discouraging these, and all other sinful practices, in others; his conduct should be guided by the wisdom and prudence, and marked by honesty, temperance, and sobriety; the glory of God and the welfare of man, the honour of his Sovereign, and the good of his country, should be the motive of his actions.

Compare to The Sinn Fein/IRA oath......

I swear by Almighty God, by all Heaven, by the Holy and Blessed Prayer Book, of the Roman Catholic Church, by the Holy Virgin Mary Mother of God, by her bitter tears and wailings, by St. Patrick, our Blessed and adorable Host, the Rosary, to fight until we die wading in the field of Red Gore of the Saxon tyrants and murderers of our glorious nationality, if spared to fight until not a single trace is left to tell that the Holy Soil of Ireland were trodden by these Heretics. Also these Protestant robbers and Brutes, these unbelievers of our Faith, will be driven like the swine they are into the sea, by fire, the knife or by Poison Cup until we of the Catholic Faith and avowed supporters of the Sinn Fein Action and Principles, clear these Heretics from our lands.

Age is not to be considered in our Blessed Deeds of extermination of Brutes who in the Past Ages robbed many of our Blessed Churches. We must shed streams of Blood of these tyrants to again claim our Holy places. Report to our Blessed Priests regularly upon all works and business transaction of any kind.

At any cost we must work in secret, using any method of Deception to gain our ends, towards the destruction of all Protestants and the advance of the Priesthood and the Catholic Faith until the Pope is complete ruler of the whole World.

Our beloved Ireland has been held in chains by these cursed foreign Tyrants for ages, now we can see the end of their Power.

We must strike at every opportunity using all methods of causing ill-feeling within the Protestant Ranks, and in their Business. The employment of any means will be Blessed by our earthly Fathers the Priests, thrice Blessed by His Holiness the Pope.

Scotland must also be swept clean of their accursed beliefs by the extermination of all Masonic and all such bodies, as do not accept our Creed must Perish, as before the days of the accursed Reformation.

So shall we of the Roman Catholic Church and Faith destroy with smiles and Thanksgiving to our Holy Father the Pope all who reject our beliefs.

So help me God.



And the Knights of St Columba........

Knights of St.Columba Oath

Fourth Degree

I now in the presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy in Heaven, and to you, my Ghostly Father, the superior general of the society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Lovola in the Pontification of Paul III, and continued to the present, do, by the womb of the Virgin the Matrix of God, and the road of Jesus Christ, Declare and swear that his Holiness the Pope is Christ's vice regent, and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth, and that by virtue of the keys of binding and loosing given his Holiness my saviour Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretic Kings, Princes, Commonwealths and Governments, and they may be safely destroyed.

Therefore to the utmost of my power, I will defend this doctrine and his Holiness' right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical Protestant authority whatsoever, especially the Lutheran Church of Norway, Germany, Holland, Denmark and Sweden, and the now pretended authority of the Church of England and Scotland, and the branches of the same now established in Ireland and the continent of America and elsewhere, and all adherents in regards that they may be usurped and heretical, opposing the Mother Church of Rome.

I do now denounce and disown any heretical King, State or Prince, named Protestant or Liberals, or obedience to any of their laws, magistrates or officers.

I do further declare that the doctrine of the Churches of England and Scotland, of Calvinists, Hugonois and others of the name of Protestants or Masons to be damnable, and they themselves to be damned who will not forsake the same.

I do further declare that I will help, assist and advise all or any of his Holiness' agents in any place that I should be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland, Ireland, or America, or any other kingdom or territory I shall come to, and to do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrine and to their pretended powers, legal or otherwise. I do further promise and declare that notwithstanding that I am dispensed with to assume any religion heretical for the propagation of the Mother Church's interest, to keep secret all her agents' councils from time to time as they instruct me, and not divulge, directly or indirectly, by word, writing or circumstances whatever but to execute all that should be proposed, given in charge, or discovered to me by you, my Ghostly Father, or any of this sacred order.

I do further promise and declare that I will have no opinion or will of my own, or any mental reservation whatever, even as a corpse or candover (perinde ad candover) but will unhesitatingly obey every order or command that I may receive from my superiors in the Militia of the Pope, and of Jesus Christ. That I will go to any part of the world whitherso I may be sent, to the frozen regions of the North, jungle of India, to the centre of civilisation of Europe, or to the wild haunts of barbarous savages of America, without murmuring or repining, and will be submissive to all things whatsoever is communicated to me.

I so further declare and promise that I will, whenever opportunity presents, make and wage war - relentless war, secretly and openly against all heretics, Protestants, Masons, as I am dictated to do, to extirpate from the face of the whole Earth, and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition, that I will hang, burn, waste, boil, slay, strangle and bury alive there infamous heretics, rip up the stones and wombs of their women, and crush their infants' heads to the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly I will secretly use the poison cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honour, rank, dignity or authority of the persons, whatever may be the condition in life, either public or private, as I at time be directed to do so by any agents of the Pope or superior of the Brother of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus.

In confirmation of which I hereby dedicate my life, soul, and all my corporal powers, and with the dagger I now receive I will subscribe my name, written in my blood in testimony whereof, and should I prove false or weaken in my determination may my brethren and my fellow soldiers in the Militia of the Pope cut off my hands, and my feet, and my throat from ear to ear, my belly be opened and sulphur therein burned with all the punishment that can be inflicted to me on Earth, and my soul shall be tortured by demons in eternal Hell forever.

That I will in voting, always vote for a Knight of Columba in preference to a Protestant especially a Mason, and that I will leave my party to do so. That if two Catholics are on a ticket, I will satisfy myself which is the better supporter of the Mother Church and vote accordingly. That I will not deal with or employ a Protestant if in my power to deal with or employ a Catholic. That I will place Catholic girls in Protestant families that a weekly report may be made from the movements of the heretics. That I will provide myself with arms and ammunition that I may be in readiness when the word is passed or I am called or commanded by the Mother Church either as an individual or with the Militia of the Pope.

All of which I do swear by the Blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist and witness the same blessed Trinity and Sacrament, which I now receive to perform, and in part to keep this oath.

In testimony thereof I take this Blessed Sacrament of the Eucharist and witness the same further with my name written in my own blood, and sealed in the face of this Holy Sacrament.
The blame game....this propaganda could have came straight out of nazi germany...some people acturally fall for this shit...millions of documents like this could be found on the internet....and if you can't see this is propaganda to create hatered and control the masses you should'nt be on this site....

what happened in the pass that won't allow these orders to move forward ?? what is the truth behind the northern Ireland conflict?


Anyway the info put forward obviously shows a link between israel and freemasons...anyone want to expand on this....what does this all mean?

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Old 08-06-2010, 09:53 PM   #26
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Agents Provocateurs

December 1984

On the night of the 2nd of December, following a tip-off about a planned IRA bomb ambush, 2 Q cars carrying SAS begin looking for a Toyota van believed to be involved. Spotting a suspicious van, the 2 cars form a road block at both ends of the road where the van is parked. Unbeknown-st to one 4-man SAS team, they had stop right next to where an IRA unit were preparing a roadside bomb, behind a hedge. The IRA men open fire on the armed SAS men as they de-buss and approach the van. The hail of gunfire kills SAS Lance-Corporal Alastair Ira Slater. The IRA gunmen then make a run for it across the fields. The SAS fire a flare and return fire but 2 of the gunmen escape across the border. A third is later found DROWNED in a river. A fourth IRA man who had been with the Toyota van is shot and killed by the SAS - a controversial act as he is found to be UNARMED.

Agents Provocateurs

British Special Forces Caught Carrying Out Staged Terror In Iraq

http://www.williambowles.info/ini/ini-0365.html

Booby-trapped Brits?

In an interview with Al Jazeerah TV, the popular Iraqi leader Fattah al-Sheikh, a member of the Iraqi National Assembly and deputy official in the Basra governorate, said that police had "caught two non-Iraqis, who seem to be Britons and were in a car of the Cressida type. It was a booby-trapped car laden with ammunition and was meant to explode in the centre of the city of Basra in the popular market." Contrary to British authorities' claims that the soldiers had been immediately handed to local militia, al-Sheikh confirmed that they were "at the Intelligence Department in Basra, and they were held by the National Guard force, but the British occupation forces are still surrounding this department in an attempt to absolve them of the crime."

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2005/CAUGHT_RED__0923.html

Hang your heads in shame


In 2002, Channel 4 aired Asher's documentary (which accompanied his book), also titled The Real Bravo Two Zero directed and produced by Gavin Searle

Synopses

TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH: The REAL BRAVO TWO ZERO


Desert explorer and former SAS trooper Michael Asher attempts to discover the truth behind the Bravo Two Zero special forces operation, which saw 8 SAS soldiers dropped behind enemy lines during the Gulf War. The mission has become famous through books written by two of its survivors under the pseudonyms Andy McNab and Chris Ryan, but after tracking down key figures Asher unearths a list of inaccuracies and exaggerations by the two men.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Michae...r/108381826037
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Old 24-06-2013, 04:55 PM   #27
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So marching season is upon us again!

It's mental living here and seeing the mass celebration of hate... Daily it's promoted by the local media outlets as good for all the community etc.

Putting all the secret society stuff aside, this organisation is extremely revealing when you look at their operations and ethics.

Would be nice if our press wasn't so biased towards them, and actually asked the real questions. Without question one of the main reasons for a lot of the trouble in Northern Ireland. (The orange order)
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